Why do people still believe in the holocaust after Highschool Yea Forums?

Especially considering there were at least two massacres where they killed 30K in a day or two

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What does 6m/365*6 mean in regard to Holocaust denial?

It means that in order for the germans to get to the supposed 6 million they supposedly killed
They would have had to gas AND incinerate the bodies of 2,800 jews a day...

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Whoever did that was so retarded, they even fucked up the math. But they're saying it was impossible for the nazis to murder 3,000 people a day, every day, for 6 years. A very child-like way in looking at those numbers, but holocaust deniers usually arent the most intelligent people out there.

Modern crematoriums can only handle about 18 bodies per day with modern technology. It's literally impossible to burn that many people, especially using WW2 era methods.

2600 people a day isnt that much, especially for an entire nation set on killing them

1. >11 million people died in the Holocaust, not 6 million

2. The Holocaust did not start on 9/1/39 and end on 4/30/45, at least not on any significant scale

3. Bodies were only cremated at certain death camps; most were buried in mass graves (the majority of those killed were not in the camps)

It’s not hard to kill that many people that quickly when large sections of your military are dedicated to that task and only that task. OP and his fellow denier retards don’t live in reality.

They're German, at their most efficient point in history. With 13.6 million in their armed forces. Setting up a machine to exterminate people. It's not only possible to kill 2800 people a day, it's pretty easy. Logistics were the hard part, killing was easy.

Im pretty sure the jews in Aujchzcwitz didnt get their own personal funeral tho. Saves time when they can just set fire to 200 people at once.

It's called a pit duds you think they gave that much of a shit? They would just pile bodies and burn em

Modern crematoriums aren’t built specifically for the purpose of exterminating people you fucking dipshit

>two separate plaques
>for two separate death camps

Not everybody was cremated. There was a concentration camp in my country, they just threw the bodies into the nearby river from time to time, bury the others. Made the poor fuckers drink from the river too.

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you do realize not all jews were killed in camps, i think only like a third died in camps, and that wasnt all by gassing and burning the bodies

Khmer rouge killed 2 million people in less than 4 years. They used hand tools by in large as not to waste bullets.

kek

History is often inaccurate on the small details, like exact numbers, as proper records were rarely kept let alone protected through the years and then able to be verified. The big events though, like the holocaust, have too many unrelated first person accounts to be dismissed, and so we consider them historical fact - regardless of the details surrounding them. Your failure to recognize this makes you the laughing stock of everyone except fellow morons.

Did the Nazis exterminate Romani, gays, and political opponents?

If so, the gas chambers and crematories were functional, despite Holocaust deniers' "proof" that they were useless.

If not, these groups of people were also part of the conspiracy. How large can a conspiracy become?

If you were a Jew, would you kill 6 million of your own just to get sympathy?

Nazi documents indicate that approximately 1.5 million Jews were sent during WWII to three camps in Eastern Poland: Sobibor, Belzec, and Treblinka. After these deportations, all trace of these people disappeared. If they weren't killed at these three camps, can you provide evidence for even 1% of them turning up someplace else?

i get really mad when people say we couldnt have pullled the holocaust off. Effieciency is all what we germans are about. Also not all jews were gassed and cremated. Some were shot, some died of disease etc.

hell the fuckin rwandans killed 1 million in 3 months using shitty machetes

most were shot by einssatzgruppen when you guys invaded the russians

Wow, someone who went through incredible pain and suffering doesn't have proper recollection of their torture, I'm convinced. Convinced you're an idiot.

Lolol there were only 6 camps that exterminated the Jews you fucking dipshit! Chelmno, Auschwitz-Birkenau, Majdanek, Treblinka, Belzec, and Sobibor. The rest were merely work camps. Even if they were outfitted for mass incineration, 2600 is still fucking impossible. Learn some actual history that isn't loaded with ((((propaganda)))) and you won't look so silly.

The total death toll of ww2 was 60 million. What's the point. Nobody ever claimed 6 million were killed in a single camp.

Well they did have talk radio spurring them on so there is a goal for America to aspire to.

It's almost like denying facts is a hobby of yours.

Somebody failed math

So do they not count as holocaust victims?

Math much?

I think you did.

Yeah, very true, especially when you consider that America slaughters 25 million farm animals a day.

Not all 6 million Jews got sent to camps you colossal fucking retard, read literally any fucking book about WWII

you fucking monkey, not every jew was killed in camps, most were shot on site by SS or field troops

Kind of retard shit is that, there are over 40,000 different camps throughout nazi controlled Europe.
Even at the ridiculously low 18 bodies a day:

40.000 x 18 = 720.000 bodies per day
x 365 = 262,800,000 bodies per year.
x6 = 1,576,800,000 bodies.

Muh 6 million.

2739 rounded up dipshit in case they didn't meet their quota one day

Documents showing evidence of personal culpability of Nazi leaders and ranking subordinates were discovered in huge numbers after the defeat of Nazi Germany. Such documents included architectural plans for the camps, engineering drafts, test results, accounting ledgers, railroad timetables, payroll records, commendations, orders, deportation lists, and death counts. The victorious Allies could not have forged so many documents so quickly, and Nazis who may have claimed that their signatures on incriminating documents were forgeries did not claim that the documents themselves were forgeries. If these incriminating documents were generated by the Nazis, then why would they create such evidence that would surely lead to their imprisonment or execution as war criminals?

they do, the holocaust was not just the camps, it was the wholescale executiion of people that the germans deemed inferior, wether it be slavs, jews or other minorities

Stop changing the narrrative as soon as people realize it doesnt add up

How many people can you shoot in the head in a day, and then throw them in a pit?
Cremation was literally only in camps, outside you could simply be shot and buried in a mass grave. Fucking hell, google Srbosjek.

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Thank you. I like to consider myself somewhat of an expert on the field.

Come now, surely knownthe difference between someone's recollection being obscured by trauma, but a bear and an eagle? You're simply being disingenuous if you claim those are anything other than outright fabrications

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The ''narrative'' never changed.

What the fuck, 40,000 camps? 1.5 billion bodies?

You're weird.

modern crematoriums are built to be able to collect ashes, the nazis basically tgrew bodies into big fireplaces

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why do zoomer memes suck so bad

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Yes youre now saying not all jews were gassed and burned

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cuz its a fact

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what? the holocaust includes people killed outside of camps

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Nevah furget the eleventy billion goyim.

Fantastical claims after severe trauma are common. It's called a coping mechanism. He probably knows its not true on some level, but he'd rather believe it is.

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>ALL OF THEM LIED

Feds pls go.

>deviding
You're a stupid kike incel

looks funny

that was the narrative from the start

No it wasnt. You people said exactly 6 million Jews were gassed and cremated and we proved why that was impossible

Which nobody in this thread claimed. Fucktard. And on the topic of crematoriums, modern crematoriums are made to reduce the person to ashes completely so that the family can collect the ashes in an urn, jews were simply mass thrown to quickly burn and there was high concentration of large bone residue.
With that said, not all jews were gassed or burned in the camps, many were simply thrown in mass graves. One of the members of the Ustaše killed 1360 prisoners in a contest in one day. With a fucking knife.

Nope. You claimed it was impossible for them all to be burned. For which the response was that they were not all burned. You're a fucking imbecile.

Please just stop. Youre embarrassing yourselves

How many Jews are alive today?
No way 6 millions Jews died they would go extinct the war was an excuse to send them to new land they called it Israel

Imagine being so retarded that you couldn't connect the meme arrow to op's image.

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Christ you're delusional.

>2800 per day
>6 camps
>466 per camp per day
>19 per hour, or 29 if you only have two 8 hour shifts
That's literally rounding up a group of roughly 30 per hour, leading them to a chamber, gassing them, and throwing them in a pit. Easy peasy. Not to mention, a huge amount of the deaths were due to starvation, the elements, and disease. Look at Soviet POWs for instance: 2.8 million of them died of starvation in a single 8 month period.

If you're going to deny the 6 million Jews, you also need to deny:
>1.4 million other genocide victims
>2.2 million in forced labor
>4.1 other war-related deaths due to famine and disease
>3 million more starvation deaths in unoccupied territory
>8.2 Soviet citizens

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no one except you retards claimed that all the jews were gassed and burned

newfag

holocaust didn't happened in 6 years.

einsatzgruppen started the mass kiling of jews during summer of 41, the last gassing happened in december 44.

you can add 250k from death marches who happened in early 45, but it's definitely under 4 years.

Most of the killing happened in 41 and 42

Raul Hillberg gave these number :

1933-1940 : < 100 000
1941 : 1 100 000
1942 : 2 600 000
1943 : 600 000
1944 : 600 000

Which them again would leave something to be found.

Because they're not retarded faggots like you.

nytimes.com/2019/04/27/world/europe/belarus-holocaust-mass-grave.html

>1942 : 2 600 000
>7123/day
>1187/camp/day
>74/hr for a 16 hour day
Still easy to do.

She got Typhus after fucking every guy she came in contact with.

>Actually thinks there is a deathcamp that killed four million people
You can't be this fucking retarded.

why do retard faggots still post forced reddit memes?

>they can't possibly have killed more than 1 at a time!

You're an absolute idiot. My building at work has more than 3,000 employees, it's 2 stories.

>The Government of Germany can only operate at the same level as one single crematorium doing 1 person a day!

You realize how unconvincing and stupid you sound? You should be aware of that.

Third party here: you're the one being embarrassing

rip discord spam bot

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jäger_Report

Einsatzkommando 3 is part of Einsatzgruppe A, and Einsatzgruppe A has less than 1000 people in it.

Einsatzkommando 3 ALONE managed to kill 40k people in one month.

Approx numbers:
6,000,000 people.
2,200 days.
454.54 people a day, per camp.
18.93 people per hour 24/7.
It takes 1-3 hours per cremation per person. There is ZERO fucking possibility of this going on. Do you realize how much fuel this shit takes?

Convincing!

The Atlanta Airport has over 90 million passengers in one single year.

But 4 million over the course of 4 years???!! It's not possible!!!!!!! Like seriously? Couldnt happen.

So convinced by your Reddit level arguments Mr. Nazi you showed me!! LMAOOOO

But where do the bodies go to i wonder?

Not user, but...

Those are from Auschwitz, and the 4 million plaque was replaced by the 1.5 million plaque. Not the other way around. Those were never claims of total Jewish deaths. The Soviets took Auschwitz and inflated the total number of Soviet deaths at the site for propaganda purposes. There were only ever claims of 1-1.25 million Jews dying at Auschwitz. The 1.5 million plaque was an updated version after the Soviets were caught with their pants down in a lie.

This is one of my favorite threads I've seen in a while, Holocaust deniers just getting BTFO with ease.

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Einsatzgruppen C killed nearly 40,000 in one DAY at Babi Yar in the Ukraine

Sure cleetus.

> But they're saying it was impossible for the nazis to murder 3,000 people a day
I think it has more to do with them not being able to incinerate 3000 bodies a day
Since we havent found 6,000,000 jewish corpses...

nice projecting

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>LOLOLOL 3444324324234 people travel through space at any given time can you even maths

Yes, because a modern day airport that is several thousand times the size of a 'death camp' that gets traffic from all over the world is comparable. Neck yourself, idiot.

im surprised ppl have such good arguments for holocaust too

More realistic number here.

Reports were so many corpses were buried at Bergen-Belsen that the ground over top heaved and moved from decomposition.

huh? are we reading two different threads? all I see are desperate jews lying out of their asses

Another non-argument. Try again. I believe in you.

retards don’t deserve arguments

I'm surprised too, usually it's just a lot of virtue signalling and shitty arguments.

I wish every internet argument was as easy as proving the existence of one of the most extensively documented events in human history

You're confusing Typhus and Tyrone, ez mistake

>It takes 1-3 hours per cremation per person.
Are you retarded? Most were dumped in mass graves. The rest were burned in BULK. You don't stick single people in a crematorium unless you care about collecting the remains. You shove em in a pit and let them burn. Or you shove them in large-scale incinerators.

>small scale modern incinerator
>250 tons/day
>50,000 pounds
>~5000 starving Jews per day, at 100 pounds of mostly skeleton

This is not difficult. You are just a dense motherfucker.

Not sure you know how to read and understand at all stormfag.

You see jews everywhere though, so what's your point?

I agree.

Lmao you're delusional, I've seen holohoax deniers only respond to the weaker arguments in this thread and still get verbally slapped around like a schoolkid.

ye

Now yall efficiently tuck your dicks and get fucked by muslims

With the shit Dr. Mengele did to people, this is actually quite believable

Industrial incinerators. A small modern incinerator can dispose of 250 tons of trash a day. That's about 5000 Jews/whoever per day, each.

>MUH FAEK HOLOCAUST

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There wasn't a single argument here posted by you guys. So your point is moot. Hurr durr can't cremate 6 million --> they were thrown in mass graves and burned en masse as well
So WHAT is your argument?

That's one camp. There were others, and many other deaths outside of camps. 6 million is not hard to get to.

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The one with stationed troops that need recreation.

Exactly. The numbers are entirely feasible. The crematoriums at Auschwitz were brutally efficient.

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> gets pulled over for speeding
> JEWSJEWSJEWSJEWSJEWS

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made in 1888, are you fucking brain dead

And where is this oven that could fit 200 people at once?

I think it's because they stop being edgy at age 14 bud

Prisoners assigned to a unit known as the Sonderkommando had to move the bodies from the gas chambers to the furnaces. Several bodies at a time were burned in a single oven. In May 1944 a serious bottle-neck occurred at Auschwitz, because the deportation and extermination of the Hungarian Jews was under way.

Have you seen the happy Nazis posing at Auschwitz? It was essential to maintain the Nazi illusion that prosperity was nigh in order to justify the mass killing. Of COURSE they had a diving team.

Found some.

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Auschwitz had 46 furnaces and multiple bodies were put in, probably not a lot but it's still a great number combined

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>multiple bodies were put in
>these furnaces
kek

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Jews suffered so much in history its awful. They are the most humble and honest people on this world and its sad how evil white people treated them in all history. Jews are controlling the media so that we always know the truth and a holocaust and hitler 2.0 will be impossible to conduct ever again. I love judaism and israel. Nice people hardworking and honest.

not everyone in the holocaust was cremated, most of them were shot and buried in mass graves out in the field

You're missing the fucking point.
No one denies the crematoriums existed.
We just deny that they could fit 2800 people in them A DAY!

You do know multiple bodies do not burn at the same rate a single body would, right user?
Double the bodies, double the time.

t. Brother cremates bodies.

admit it though, that guy could probably break your bones due to his weight.

Yep, malnourished people with no fucking fat in their bodies could be stuffed in that.
You're a moron. Or deceitful on purpose.

>most humble
heheheheheh

ok humphrey

2,800 people are a fucking joke. Besides not all of them were burned but dumped into massgraves by the truckload.

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The amenities were for the SS personnel and their families, not the prisoners, you muppet

Are those 6 million?
>46 furances
Kek.
Well then it should be pretty easy to prove the holocaust then
all you have to do is prove they existed with some menial sources (if they are real they'll be easy to provide)
a floor plan in them
And a mathmatic formula to explain how they were capable of burning 2800 people a day?

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I'm guessing near the big pile of shoes.

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>most of them were shot and buried in mass graves out in the field
Yeah, they allowed radar equipment at Treblinka and no mass graves were dug there as they claimed.

To this day, jews bring there dead relatives ashes to that site and illegally throw them on the ground.
In 100 years, they'll claim those are the remains from the mass graves during the holocaust.

You are right
youtube.com/watch?v=Tc3vllP5wIg

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>the NAZIS TOOK THEIR SHOES
lol wut?

Your goal isn't to cremate bodies to completeness so that family could collect the remains. The goal is to mass exterminate as fast as possible, they were reduced to ashes but but having some skeletal remains was acceptable. And no I do not believe you because there were incidents when they had too many bodies to burn so they stuffed multiple ones in furnaces.

wow that's one hell of a jewish nose, watch out white brother, you might've gotten psy oped by kikes

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I cant remember what the camp was called, but it had a zoo that the manager helped maintain. the animals were treated better than the jews, and two guards were even removed from thr camp for fucking with the animals. camps had nice things for the guards, not the jews.

>And a mathmatic formula to explain how they were capable of burning 2800 people a day?
I have no reason to prove shit fucktard, because that is not my claim. That is YOUR claim, my claim is jews were killed in multiple ways, from being shot and thrown into mass graves to gassing and cremation.
The burden of proof is on YOU imbecile.

So your logic trumps the research of countless people with PhDs?
Do you know how quickly Zyklon B kills? About two minutes.
Do you know how quickly you can cremate someone at 1500 degrees? About twenty minutes.

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>have no reason to prove shit fucktard
Obviously
Because you're fucking wrong and you've used propaganda to brainwash generations of youth into believing your sob story kike.

>The goal is to mass exterminate as fast as possible
Why would they used those resources while their own troops were starving to death?
Can we agree they certainly didn't burn bodies up until the end of the war?
Because that theory is ludicrous.

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Imagine being so committed to trying to deny an event that was still relatively recent in history that you start splitting hairs as thin as "there's no way it was 6 million! It was probably closer to four million!"

As though if the number was 6 million, or 4 million, or 1 million, it would matter or change anything.

Are you really going to defend the systematic killing of 3 million people because it wasn't 6 million people?

Fucking polcucks.

kek
so you deny that six million jews died in the holocaust?
LEL
better not say that shit in europe.
Will get you fucking thrown in jail

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big holes in the ground can fit 200 people

hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

No. That is an early photo.
Before the gas chambers reached full efficacy, firing squads were used.
This is a particularly large number of people to kill at once by that method -- generally, it was significantly fewer.

Here's what I mean, you're addressing me instead of someone with a valid argument. Not only that you're trying to claim that no competent arguments have been made which is quite dishonest of you user. Go tell that to someone who's actually willing to argue with one of you idiots and see what you get, I'm just here for the laughs. I get quite the kick out of observing other people's delusions.

>As though if the number was 6 million, or 4 million, or 1 million, it would matter or change anything.
Actually if you think it was 4 million instead of six million you go to fucking jail in most of the western world lol

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The crematorium capacity of all 52 ovens at Auschwitz was 4756 per day.

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i swear every denier thinks that evry single jew was gassed and burned, most were shot and buried to decompose

1. Not everyone was cremated. Mass graves have been found.
2.Each oven wasn't burning one body at a time, and no respect was given to the dead.
3. People who manned to ovens guessed the were able to burn 2500 bodies in a day, on average. Each day. That means Auschwitz-Birkenau probably was able to exterminate a million people in a year.

They used the resources the way they did because they were fucking idiots who were more concerned with their retarded ideology than they were with fighting the war properly, that’s why they fucking lost

They burned or buried them naked brainlet. Even took the gold from their teeth.

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beautiful

>It takes 1-3 hours per cremation per person
kek this is what happens when you repeat the memes but never actually bothered to think them through

Cremating someone takes a long time because you want to fully burn the body, then collect their remains and prepare the crematorium for the next person. This isn't a physical limitation of the crematoriums if you just want to dispose of the bodies.

>6,000,000 people
Jews were often shoved into large pits then shot. Some were kept in ghettos where they starved to death. Others were just randomly executed on the spot and disposed of half-assedly. Many were buried in mass graves. They didn't all die in death camps.

Nope, quote me in full you dishonest fuck. I gave my reasons. Nice try though.
Yeah I can agree with that, but genocide happened before that, in my country as I stated before they didn't cremate and would simply throw the bodies in mass graves or in the nearby river. Although I think the moved toward cremation because they actually lacked resources to dig graves, the goal was complete destruction of remains, you can reduce bodies to ashes quickly if the heat is high enough, especially malnourished ones.

Where were these holes then?
Surely when eisenhower told the allied soldiers to photo every fucking starving jew in the camp they could find a hole filed with charred corpses

>They used the resources

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i think its mostly europe not "most of the western world"
also there is something i always wondered about
how does it feels know that very few people will ever agree with you?
how does it feels that all the other rest of people despise you?

Where in the flying fuck did you get those numbers?

I'm sorry but this was World War II. The wartime technology was absolutely insane. German engineers in particular were masters of scale.

Source?

>, most were shot and buried to decompose
THEN WHERE THE FUCK ARE THE GOD DAMN MASS GRAVES YOU FUCKING MORON
JESUS.
You know they excavated the feild outside auscwitz quite recently infact?
You know what they found?
BUT FUCK NOTHING
because
it
didnt
fucking
happen.

or a jewish shill, come on man...

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And nobody is stating they were fitting 2800 people per day, plenty of other anons have pointed out plenty of other methods used to exterminate people.

Yeah, because I can't find a valid argument. And I've BEEN arguing with others as well. So either you're a moron that doesn't know how anonimity works or are dishonest, but that's a given with neo nazis. Accept you're a genocidal fuck and move on, you're not gonna put a blindfold on me while you're at it. Accept what you are, because your wishy washy kind is fucking annoying.

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6 millions died, not all in camps.

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yeah bro, go back to school

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There weren't even that many jews in or around Germany right before the fun started.

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phdn.org/archives/holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/body-disposal/

See? I'll link my sources because they are legitimate. Your sources are bullshit /pol/ threads with other disabled children.

Not really tho. How about you read more than one sentence of that Wikipedia page and stop calling people brain dead when you've done no research dipshit

everywhere. search up holocaust mass graves and a bunch will come up

>how does it feels know that very few people will ever agree with you?
>how does it feels that all the other rest of people despise you?
About how it felt to believe the world was not the center of the Universe in 1610.

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This is a blatant lie.

I guarantee that a historian putting out a paper trying to accurately calculate the number of Jews killed in the holocaust wouldn't be jailed.

I know because many have done it, and they don't always get the same number.

You're lying for no reason.
Stop being such a ln eternal cunt.

They found ash and bone fragments all over Treblinka, and there is still unknown what they may find in auschwitz. For fucks sake.

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Then where are the fucking bodies?
THEN WHERE ARE THE FUCKING BODIES?
AND MORE OVER
How in the FUCK do we know it was 6 million?

>inb4 hur dur it's a study published by a university therefore it's just Jewish propaganda

yeah, fire didnt work back in the 40's, also its a well known fact the germany only had one crematorium

in 1939 germany had a population of 79.375.281.
the percentage of jews inside the population was 0,7%.
thats a total number of 555 000 .

Please tell me where the other jews came from?
>inb4 the balkan. you know that poland, serbia, ukraine etc is 99% christian orthodox?

SURE THEY DEPORTED JEWS ALL OVER EUROPE WHILE FIGHTING ON 5 FRONTS OUTSIDE AND WITH PARTISAN WARRIORS INSIDE

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>thinks all the jews were killed in extermination camps
PROTIP: Some were worked to death, some were gunned down in the ghettos, some starved to death, some contracted diseases in the work camps. Some were even subjected to medical experiments and vivisection. Dude you hate jews, so why do you care how they were killed?

ihr.org/jhr/v19/v19n3p20_radar.html

"'Vernichtungslager' Treblinka: archaelogisch betrachtet," by Ing. Richard Krege, in Vierteljarhreshefte für freie Geschichtsforschung, June 2000 [4. Jg., Heft 1], pp. 62-64.

"'No Jewish mass grave' in Poland," The Canberra Times, Jan. 24, 2000, p. 6.

"Poland's Jews 'not buried at Treblinka'," The Examiner [Australia], Jan. 24, 2000. [The latter two newspaper items are reprinted in facsimile in VHO-info, May 2000, p. 30.]

Information provided by Richard Krege; M. Weber and A. Allen, "Treblinka," The Journal of Historical Review, Summer 1992, pp. 133-158.

"German Court Sentences Australian Holocaust Skeptic," The Journal of Historical Review, July-August 1999, pp. 2-5.

have you ever heard of this crazy machine called " gun "? I heard they can be pretty deadly and fire pretty quick

His ''article'' didn't specify, her diary was written with a ballpoint pen that existed in variations at the time. So how about you read the article and stop wasting my time.

>Sends me a link to a book
>>tells me "its in there"
lol no faggot
Quote
Quote with link.
Thats how you source something
You ever been to college?
Many of which that have been disproved

>When you're religion of victimhood has so thoroughly circumnavigated the world that touching your hands together causes literal angels to crumble into their own pity party.

Im not trying to convice you, trying to convice a holocaust denier that the holocaust did happen is like trying to convice a muslin that fucking a 9yo girl is wrong, im actually curious about it.

i asume that if you were lucky your family had the same believes as you so you had some moral support on that side but how was life in school, was hard to make friends while having those believes?

you do realize germanys borders grew pretty rapidly up until '42

Nope, just pointing out your blatant dishonesty don't project that on to me. Plenty of valid arguments in this thread, find one and fuck off.

jewish population in europe before holocaust vs after holocaust

Same reason they thin the earth is round. Reptilian programming orchestrated by the NWO

they decayed 60 years ago, man.

YEAH CHEACK THE POPULATION
0,7% jews in germany before the war
0,3% jews after the war

>I guarantee that a historian putting out a paper trying to accurately calculate the number of Jews killed in the holocaust wouldn't be jailed.
Google David Irving.
>and there is still unknown what they may find in auschwitz. For fucks sake.
I think i fucking know why they havent looked lol
> Dude you hate jews, so why do you care how they were killed?
Because
The Holocaust
Didnt
Happen.
And the only reason you LIKE jews is because you think it did.
Because you were brainwashed, litterally before the age of 10 to believe an event happened that didnt happen.
Its fucking propaganda.
80 year old war time propaganda
And its time for its reign to end.

What the fuck are you talking about at this point?

Records and estimations by historians, jewish population before and after the fact.
And bodies are still found, I posted an article in this thread, bodies they found in Belarus. There are still bodies in my country around Jasenovac that have never been found.

Babyrage polsters can't handle facts and logic

>I dont see no bodies!

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(You)

YEAH CHEACK THE POPULATION
0,7% jews in germany before the war
0,3% jews after the war

checked

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> was hard to make friends while having those believes?
Nah its honestly not that edgy anymore.
Litterally use to be fucking scared of talking about it when i was a kid when i was in middle school.
Then i heard some other kid in my school talking about it the same day.
Never censored myself since.

Can't you even follow the chain your fucking replied to, you absolute moron.
His shitpost claims her diary was written with a ballpoint pen, ballpoint pen existed in variations since the late 19th century, fuck off.

The Holocaust is clearly real!
That's why we get arrested for questioning it or thinking it didn't happen!

Yeah despite the fact that the WORLD population of jews didnt change at any point durring or AFTER the war.

Ever heard of the term "world war" before? It means it was global. Germany had colonies and alliances everywhere, and they also occupied pretty well all of mainland Europe...

bump

citation?

Dude they're are fucking grave yards in england that have people in them for over 100 years and their are still traces.
Bone matter doesnt decay to nothing in 80 years time.

A source refuting my wild claim!? Must be propoganda

I like jews because they are smart and funny. Unlike these people. On the other hand I hate Israelis because they are thieving apartheid scum.

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>Records and estimations by historians, jewish population before and after the fact.
Nigger where.

>Everyone is brainwashed but me, the person who's ideology is based entirely on lack of evidence serving as "proof" and blatantly false information
How convenient

>David Irving

Wrote that Hitler had no idea Jews were even being killed, and was actually against it entirely

Oh yeah, that's definitely the same thing, you disingenuous slime

Are you stupid? Germany did not only exectue German jews. Nearly half of all the jews killed were Polish. The rest came from other countries.

then stop asking me where the bodies are, and ask where the skeletons are.

>POPULATION
0,7% jews in germany before the war
0,3% jews after the war
Yeah i mean its not like their was some totalitarian government ruiling over half of Germany
Well known for botching numbers and photos
which just so happened to be the side where all of the so called "death camps" where.
Ah but i forgot
all the jews got turned into lamp shades and soap bars right?
lol
what a fucking joke.

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My post was complaining about the same thing, but you link to me like I'm part of the problem. Imagine that.

implying this guy is the only one with this opinion

"The only reason you like Jews is because you think the holocaust happened"

Wew lad

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My favorite part about holocaust deniers is they're like "they didn't kill 6 gorillion jews!!1...but if they did it'd be okay because jews are scum lol"

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>I like jews because they are smart and funny.
Lol okay.

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Once young Anons just fucking google the population of Jews in Europe during the time and see it was NO WHERE NEAR 6 million..and yes so many fucking Jews survived...somehow..magically..

You start to question things. Like how only soviet found camps were considered genocide camps. Why the Red Cross said about 600ish thousand died from parasites and disease (which is what the de-lousing showers were for).

Etc. The longest con going.

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>I ZEE NOTHINK!!
Have fun arguing with wilfully ignorant stormfags. I'm out.

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You know that not all of these people were Jews? Few million who died were Polish you daft cunt. Go to Majdanek (I was born nearby) or Oswiecim to see by yourself the facilities that were made for murdering people. I understand that it is easy to sit by your computer and type crap in your soiled underwear, but if you travel around talk to the people who lived through these times you realise the whole shit was horrible. But hey that would be asking too much.

but russia did the holocaust cause hitler was never about violence. he just wanted to create socialist paradise for white people!!! .....by conquering said white people.

>I blatantly hate an entire race but also I get really mad when people call me racist

its almost like a population can't spring back over 25 years.

>JOOS WILL NOT REBLAZE US

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Maybe they realize 6 million is a religious number in Judeism. Or how long it takes to cremate bodies. Or..

maybe they google the Haavara agreement..where the Zionist faction was allowed to leave Germany and go to Palestine with their wealth. But only when the British asked them to aid them, did they turn on Palestine and Germany and THAT

THAT IS WHY

The Holocaust, read detention of a race (just like the US with the Japs) happened.

implying my information is "false"
apposed to the guy who's source for the fucking "death camps" is litterally the soviet union.
Irving got thrown in jail for questioning the gas chambers were real dude.
Oh fucking forgive.
I dont care when people call me racist.
I get mad when the state brainwashes school children into thinking thats a bad thing.
So jewish births were increasing from 41 to 45?
LEL

Raul Hillberg think it's 5.1 millions

every scholar have the greatest respect for Raul Hillberg.

Wolfgang Benz estimate that the minimum number is 5.29 Million he was teaching history in berlin university not far ago until he retired in 2010

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>religious jews, not ethnic jews
fail.

>apposed
>litterally

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Divided by 20+ camps divided by 200+ furnaces divided by ??? = profit.

That's right kike lovers.

Hitler LET THE JEWS LEAVE WITH THEIR MONEY TO PALESTINE. The Sultan let them IN.

He paid for his acceptance of them with treachery and backstabbing. The jews turned on Germany using the banks and the media which they still fucking own today.

Hitler put them in camps because they had sworn, literally, a racial war upon the Joymanz.

Well then i am sincerely happy that a european government hasnt thrown him in jail...
yet.

>unsourced
>years are added after the fact
>unreported Holocaust of like 60 million Protestants

>a 6 million person genocide wouldnt show up in an estimate of RELIGIOUS jews.
lel

in times of war, yes, birthrates skyrocket.

'nother fun fact, an inordinate amount of boys are born in times of war. weird huh?

>a book
Yeah, maybe you should read one every now and then.

>what is ctrl-f 4756
So you're both lazy and retarded?

"A report from the Bauleitung in June 1943, after all of the new ovens became operational for at least some period, placed the cremation capacity of all 52 ovens at 4756 per day. Deniers have not totally agreed among themselves on this issue, but Butz and Mattogno place the cremation capacity at about 1000 per day, or 30,000 per month. Mattogno claimed the maximum cremation capacity of the six original ovens was 120 per day, even though he was familiar with evidence from another concentration camp that showed a Topf double muffle oven could burn 52 per day or 26 per muffle."

"It reported that in a 24 hour period the six ovens of Krema I could incinerate 340 bodies; the five triple muffle furnaces each in Kremas II and III could incinerate 1440 corpses, or 2880 combined; Kremas IV and V could each incinerate 768 corpses or 1536 combined. The total for all five was 4756 and the total for the four Birkenau crematoria Kremas II through V - was 4416. For purposes of comparison with Gusen, there were many lighter-weight women and children incinerated in the Auschwitz ovens. By contrast, there were no women and children in Gusen in 1941, only men."

Eat it, denier. It's a well-sourced book, with contemporary references to actual capacity of the crematoriums by the people that placed the orders from the fucking manufacturers. Your argument is shit, and you are shit.

the overwhelming majority of jews are atheist, not religious

>unreported Holocaust of like 60 million Protestants
No user.
Those of the deaths of soldiers and civilians in world war two
you complete fucking dimwit.

kek they did that while fighting with submarines in the atlantik, tanks in egypt, while rushing the eastern front, fighting partisans EVERYWHERE, airplanes in england, with greeks, albanians, bulgarians. kek its so many fronts

sure they gave no food to the jews and put them in labourcamps, but thats normal in war. The other countries didnt were much nicer back this times

and how could you know its just some russian warprisoners executed in the camps?

OH YEAH AND WHY IS THERE A LAW AGAINST DENYING THE HOLOCOAST?

WHEN ITS A FACT YOU CANT DENY IT

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>denying that a death camp was even a death camp at all is the same as trying to accurately count the number of people killed by a death camp

sweaty tryhard Nazi retard

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Jews make up approximately 2% of the U.S. population but are approximately 50% of the billionaires.

Numerous members of Congress and the Senate have dual citizenship with Israel.

It is now ILLEGAL to discuss putting sanction on Israel. As in you can go to fucking jail for it.

Every U.S. president goes to fucking Israel and prays at their temple wall wearing a yamaka.

"but da joos have no influence it's just /pol/ being incels."

REFUTE ONE FUCKING POINT YOU INTELLECTUAL =COWARDS=.

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Ok owen benjamin

Benz published his estimation in 96 Hillberg in 1961

>existed in variations since the late 19th
it wasn't widely available until the mid 1940's
it's written in the exact same wikipedia page that you're using as your source
I'm surprised you are even breathing

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yea exactly. as you see the gassing narrative become untenable they are shifting to more of a "holocaust by bullets" narrative. which obviously did happen to some extent (jews just happened to be communists) but 6 million? lol nah

It's confusing to me why the chosen avatar for these memes is Paulie from the Sopranos

It was a joke dumbass

>in times of war, yes, birthrates skyrocket.
Apparently even in extermination camps.
>"It reported that in a 24 hour period the six ovens of Krema I could incinerate 340 bodies; the five triple muffle furnaces each in Kremas II and III could incinerate 1440 corpses, or 2880 combined; Kremas IV and V could each incinerate 768 corpses or 1536 combined. The total for all five was 4756 and the total for the four Birkenau crematoria Kremas II through V - was 4416. For purposes of comparison with Gusen, there were many lighter-weight women and children incinerated in the Auschwitz ovens. By contrast, there were no women and children in Gusen in 1941, only men."
And where were these fucking ovens?
You still havent produced them
you're just claiming they existed
seriously what the fuck.
ahhh
I se
I suppose this was the same in the 1930s as well.
Good for him

>Jews make up approximately 2% of the U.S. population but are approximately 50% of the billionaires.
that's like pointing out black people are good at sports.

Do you believe jews have some sort of talent for business? It stands to reason they own everything then, money sticks to larger piles of money. The rich get richer, the poor get poorer.

The magic of capitalism baby.

>refute one point
so you can sperg and cry about how those are liberal sources and this meme says I'm right? no thank you

"I was just pretending to be retarded"
lol
fooled me user.

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Cause Paulie is a stand up guy.

>Implying I meant just him

yes, even in extermination camps. it's documented that many people actually get horny before they die. that urge to reproduce and all.

he isn't though

You have -nothing-.

To be fucken fair, these Jews look better than half the fucken Nazies combined. Masterrace my arse.

kek. owned.

That's correct. You have nothing but memes.

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Oy vey it's almost like they get into power and use this power to raise up other members of the tribe who them use their money and influence to...

Influence politics.

Look at entry rates into Ivy league colleges. Saying you're a Jew means you can have an enormous deviation in test scores and get in.

The Magic of the jews is in being able to do EVERYTHING they state they are against, but everyone is too afraid to talk about it.

one day youll wake up hopefully.

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Because Evidence>Ideological loyalty

>And where were these fucking ovens?
>You still havent produced them
>you're just claiming they existed
>blah, blah, blah
Go read the book, retard. It's specifically written to people like you. To give you actual information instead of garbage from /pol/. I'm not going to give you a fucking book report on 25k words-- every time I answer a question, you'll ask the next. Read it, or don't and continue in your ignorance. I'll leave you with the conclusion, though:

"On April 2, 1945, as the Allies were closing in on Germany, Hitler's secretary recorded his final boast: "National Socialism will earn eternal gratitude for exterminating the Jews in Germany and Central Europe" [die Juden aus Deutschland und Mitteleuropa ausgerottet habe]. Auschwitz represented the finality of Hitler's vision. The gas chambers were the principal, though not only, murder instrument at Auschwitz. The ovens and burning pits were the method of disposing of the dead. The evidence presented in this study, whether it is documents, aerial photos or testimony, clearly shows that there was no shortage of facilities to accomplish this task."

(highly recommend the book Babi yar)
I absolutely hate these threads. I don’t know much about the Holocaust because very few Jews are left in my country but it’s interesting to study and so many important lessons. Holocaust deniers should be gassed.
Glad to see so many GREAT and informative responses. I sometimes get baited into replying to and it’s extremely frustrating arguing with these morons. Thanks for quality info bros.

Good point. Is that stat accurate? Holy fuck that’s a lot of animals but I guess for a population of 330 million who eat a lot of meat it makes sense.

lol

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Weak. Why don't you stop being a coward, put on "private mode" and do a few searches on Bing. It's not that it's not the truth, it's that you don't want it to be true.

Lol
so let me get this straight.
The germans
Allowed Jews to fuck
Have children
and then fed those children in a death camp designed to destroy all jews when the babies couldnt even work or contribute as slave labour?
fuck you really got me user,
I couldnt have made a better case against the myth holocaust myself.
kek.

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And it's also a conspiracy black people are 90% of the NBA. They use their power to get others of their race to break into the sport and push this narrative of black superiority.

Or, they're just really good at it naturally for some reason.

>I'm so brave because I believe holocaust denial sites with dubious citations over credible historians
Wew

>very few Jews are left in my country
lucky you

>Telling me to read another fucking book instead of making an argument
sounds about right.

>Unsourced speech
lel.

>I couldnt have made a better case against the myth holocaust myself.
sure you could. prove it's a hoax

>Holocaust deniers should be gassed.
Nah, they deserve to be social outcasts. Let them speak their minds, openly. Do your best to convince them (and more importantly, the people they are trying to convince) that their denial is pure retardation. And when you inevitably fail to convince them (but succeed in convincing everyone else of their retardation), just write them out of civilized society.

Right? It's this persistent meme.

Yeah guys, the Nazis built movie theaters, swimming pools and sport fields so the Jews could suffer watching the 20 guards enjoy themselves while they...I don't fucking know, dug holes or something.

They detained the jews because the Jews publicly turned on the Germans by violating the Haavara agreement.

Their bullshit after is merely to ABUSE the Christian sentiments and gain power.

>Implying you are woke for believing in a theory with "evidence" that is easy to disprove with simple historical facts that you conveniently ignore
The delusions just keep on coming.

Yes, they did.
Any laws stifling free speech are stupid. I live an European country and it's not illegal to deny the holocaust here. I know Germany has such laws but I think /pol/tards are blowing it out of proportion.

Oh wow you're beginning to understand that Race is Real and that different Races can do different things more often.

Next you'll look into why blacks commit the majority of violent crimes and rapes.

>aying you're a Jew means you can have an enormous deviation in test scores and get in.
jews actually have the highest average IQ in the world.

>another fucking book
When the fuck have you ever read a book? Curios George doesn't count.

>instead of making an argument
I've made my argument, and nothing you've said has even remotely refuted it.

Except he never claimed they fed the children. I'm noticing that pattern in this thread tho, you holohoax idiots will ask these loaded questions and put words in people's mouths to try and prove your points. It's laughable

ITT
>Jews are inferior scum.
>I hate Jews because they are successful.
>show me TWENTY CREDIBLE sources (no not that one, no not that one either) to refute my infograph
>moving goal posts
>logical fallacies
>literal Nazi propaganda
>everyone calls me an antisemite just because I hate Jews and defend Hitler
>Nazi shills BTFO

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(psst American blacks are even better Athletes then Africans because they were selected and bred to be good at physical labor)

(Psst African men and women have the highest levels of base-line testosterone compared to all other races. They also have the highest level of the "Warrior gene" which is an aggression response to threats with violence)

typhus victims after the war, notice the british soldiers and females.

You idiots try to claim that the centuries of oppression have nothing to do with the current state of blacks, but then have the nerve to cite statistics like you care at all about facts. So no, none of us will look into your biased viewpoints next.

they were brought in pregnant?
Theyve been fucking?

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ITT
>Jew apologists provide 0 evidence
>Evidence they do provide is written by jews
>Confuse success with money with morality
>Repeat

>They also have the highest level of the "Warrior gene" which is an aggression response to threats with violence
I would really love to see you cite this

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Not a speech, retard. It was a conversation recorded by Martin Bormann on April 2, 1945. You are one lazy motherfucker; all you have to do is literally copy and paste the statement into a search to get the source. I guess I shouldn't expect much from someone who sources all their info from /pol/ and only ever ventures out as far as Yea Forums.

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but the official narrative states that they were gassed, has that changed now? no one doubts that people were killed, they were communists,

It's okay, everyone. The armchair expert is here to clarify everything.

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people lose their jobs for even mention it could be less then 6 million jews

wait, where does morality enter into this?

I thought the germans were very exact, how did they miss so many?

So you've got nothing. Precisely what I thought incel stormfag

Ah yes Africa was a Wakandan masterpiece before the evil WhITE MAN came in.

You can look at race/intelligent data and see it represented in the countries.

Blacks have a lower IQ on average. Their bell curve is shifted left. There ARE smart black people, but they are very rare. The average black person is not that bright.

No amount of small scale colonialism and slave labor can explain that away. Africans are fucking dumb.

I am polish. Millions of my people were killed by the Nazis.
Jewish people were our neighbors and also culturally important and didn’t do anything wrong.
Millions of us and them were just murdered. Peasants, old people, nursing babies, all murdered.
The passive agreement and ignorance of the German public is what made it happened. Now trolls and shills are repeating the same propaganda. Really makes me very angry.

fucking in a "death camp"? fucking in a "death camp" split into male and female bunkhouses? Yeah sounds legit

I'm a Russian and I'll tell you the first hand stories my grandma told me, she was captured by the Germans in ww2. Don't remember how old she was but 18-20 maybe, She told me after being taken to a camp, the Germans would select all people of working age and good physical condition, and move them to factories to work and make shit for the war effort. She also told me they would get payed in ration card type things, and they were able to buy pretty much the same shit the native Germans could, they did have to stay in their "dorms" and couldn't travel or roam the city, but they were fed and housed, that's where she met a French dude and they had some romance shit. Then the territory she was on was liberated by the Americans and the French dude was beginning her to come to France with him but she was like "naww" I'm going back to the motherland" family and such. So she gets back to Russia . A few years later the NKVD Roll through town with a list of people that were captured/surrendered to the Germans. So they take her ass and put her in a Soviet camp for 10 years out in the middle of no where, that's where my Dad was born. After 10 years they go back to resettle. So what I got from this story is yes Germans were assholes but I think some of the shit in the camps was overblown. I'm sure they executed tons of Jews and Pols but I don't think it was in the numbers we see or by the methods we read about, I think most of them were just shot, but who knows I wasn't there

Are you talking about humankind's ancestral homeland?

Have you researched the Einsatzgruppen? The Nazis didn't cremate all 6 million Jews. Many were simply tossed into simple mass graves.

Those doors have been proven to not have led to gas chambers.

Wait, so the deathcamps were real? checkmate bitch.

Here you go, saved you a bit of googling.

thealternativehypothesis.org/index.php/2016/04/15/maoa-race-and-crime/

use the studies cited in it to fuel your rapidly deteriorating hunt for information showing that I'm wrong.

True story, that Gene also has a high level in Finnish people, who are known for fucking people up (see their war with the USSR in WWII)

>Jew apologists provide 0 evidence
Read the thread
>Evidence they do provide is written by jews
Right... or shills hired by Jews, or universities run by Jews, or funded by Jewish billionaires, or writen by Jew lovers, or sourced from actual Nazi documents that are in fact Jewish in origination because the Nazis were actually Jews in a master scheme of world domination... you retards find any excuse to deny reality.

It's crazy right? The people who evolved to due well in Africa...are different mentally and physically then those who migrated away.

It's almost like the thought process/evolutionary needs of a freezing land is different then a perpetual hot/wet landscape....

Whites, blacks, asians and pajeets all think and feel differently (MOST of the time) because they evolved in different climates and places.

Europeans are intermixed with Neaderthals for example and the South Indians and SE Asians have more Denisovan DNA then whites.

Pure blacks have none of either and thus are quite different.

where do you find this "official" narrative where all the killing occurred by gassing ?

If you go to the wikipedia page of the Shoah,( here : en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holocaust#Death_toll )

it's stated that "The death camps accounted for half the number of Jews killed"

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yea you bring that up now because that's the new narrative now that your gas chambers myth has been busted. they shot political dissidents (commies) who happened to be jews because jews are overrepresented in the communist party

You have literally nothing of value to argue with me. I've had this conversation 1 million times and it's always the fucking same from you people.

You filthy kikes and kike apologists love lies and sneakiness.

But, I'm not trying to convince you. I'm shining light for our little audience and hopefully some of them will be brave enough to look into the facts.

>I am polish
the eternal shabbos goy

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