Quick I’m in a debate with my friend right now...

Quick I’m in a debate with my friend right now. I need some country where communism works or at least a time period when it was doing better

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It has worked well in some small communities. As far as I know there are no examples of it working well on the scale of a country.

Fuck off you commie

I’m trying to convince him it can though

Soviet Russia industrialized to the point of becoming a major world power in the span of about 50 years, a process which took other nations hundreds and required massive exploitation and colonization. The fall of the USSR represented the largest decrease in quality of life in recorded history; worse than the fall of Rome.
Cuba has done amazing things in terms of improving literacy rates and access to health care. They literally export doctors and have developed vaccines for multiple types of cancer all while under blockade by the most powerful nation in the world.

Communism and Socialism has ultimately failed everywhere it was tried.

Good luck faggot.

>Ignores all the murder...

Why? Just to fuck with him? Communism falls apart once there are too many people--for so many reasons. If you're just fucking with him try to convince him that Cuba is awesome.

Scale is the problem. It works small scale but ALWAYS goes tits up on a national scale because humans are inheritly selfish. This has been proven numerous times.

it never worked, people like to own things and take their own decisions

>Quick I’m in a debate with my friend right now. I need some country where communism works or at least a time period when it was doing better


Communism has killed more people than religion.

If you want to be in a labor camp or killed or starve to death...be a commie.

Stupid Millie....worst generation ever! And the dumbest!

>L I T E R A L L Y

Not for more than a short time. Human nature makes communism impossible.

Top kek...

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This

>Cuba has done amazing things
>people willing to risk death trying to escape the country on makeshift rafts
only one can be true

Yeah, they have frequent/constant shortages of necessities. How would they have the resources for heavy R&D?
And I don't want a Cuban doctor working on me.

>help guys i need successful communist communities
>it can work just give me examples
>guys do we have examples
>guys please i know this works i need examples
it doesn't work user please stop

Yugoslavia was a pretty OK place to live, or communist Spain during the civil war.

>tell me how I can go to the moon by kicking a donkey

Makes as much sense as your question. Your friend should castrate you.

There were some interesting attempts at communes in murrica, like Oneida (like the flatware, look it up). But the hubris and lust of the leaders always bring it down. Always.

afaik, cuba healthcare systems works because doctors can't sell their services for the amount they would like as is the case in other countries.
Doctors wages are fixed and played by the goverment, the service is free for all the people. The life expectancy is high because they have periodic checks so early detection and treatment of illnesses is easier.
I don't know about r&d and advenced treatments (for cancer and such) but I heard they have equipment and facilities, albeit those are seldom used by natives, more for tourists who would like to be treated there.

Yeah, unload this bs lie, he may be dumb enough to listen. He made a conscious choice to be your friend, can't be too bright.

Communism could work as long as everyone opts into the system, and somehow stays satisfied with the state of affairs. But imposing it on others will cause rebellion.

>when the tankie thinks they know everything but really there's much more nuance in the growth of the USSR that had to do with dirty dealing and false propping at the expense of the people
>tankies will literally argue that that's a good thing

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Defending real life communist governments is kind of a trap, keep it in the realm of theory. But if you really want to, you can zero in on the achievements of the USSR (literacy, ended homelessness, that kind of thing). It's insanely easy to counter that with accurate examples of it being a shithole, though.

Inflated "black book" estimates of 100 million lost to communism pale in comparison to the 10 million a year that die of starvation and lack of healthcare under world capitalism

Classic example of backwards reasoning. He just wants to be right because he's retarded.

Not helping the poor, be it through negligence or as a byproduct of industry, is still morally superior to setting up systems that directly contribute to widespread deaths by putting governmental and industrial power into the hands of a dozen people who rule with an iron fist.

Look, I can see the argument for anarcho-communism, but I can't possibly understand why the fuck someone would want to be a tankie.

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I hope for OP's sake and the poor sap that is stuck talking to him that he's trolling.

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Communists/socialists always sweaty neckbeards who've spent their whole lives in a first world capitalist nation and thought it sounded like a good idea based on some garbage they read online. Then suddenly decided to devote their entire life to "dismantling capitalism" by sharing posts on Facebook while buying Starbucks and the next iphone.

I can understand why somebody might consider an authoritarian state a necessary intermediate stage, but most tankies seem to just love sucking dictator dick

How in the world can you draw causation for those deaths? The existence of capitalism doesn't mean it's responsible. People bring that shit up, it has to be one of the hardest stats I could imagine trying to prove. So many variables. Also does the west not get credit for all the lives it saved under capitalism? Medical, sewage, power, transportation, agriculture, tech and communication?

Yeah, I suppose. I just have yet to meet a tankie who wasn't a complete bootlicker and actually saw authoritarian communism as a viable (AND temporary) transition stage.

I'm just an agorist though, so what do I know lol.

No where otherwise there would be successful communist countries... DUH. I mean for real. If there was one you would know their name.

>worse than the fall of rome
>>WORSE THAN THE FALL OF ROME

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Saudi Arabia has free healthcare, tuition, and other services without taxing their own citizens.

You're a fucking retarded if you think socialism is good in any way. I live in a ex socialist country in south America. I hate my country, everything it's corruption, lack of job opportunities, insecurity, and the awful feeling that even you take the right choices your life is shit. Why do you think so many people wants to leave the country? Not cuz we want to leave our true home, it's because of necessity, a necessity to find opportunities to be successful.

Also, stop using Che's images to represent socialist revolutionaries ideals. Che was a serial killer, homophobic, who told his own father he enjoyed killing innocent people and enemies. Great thing he was killed by CIA.

Yugoslavia

you just have to be fully integrated in islam