People with brain damage will always support him but will moderates vote for him again after all his bullshit antics?

People with brain damage will always support him but will moderates vote for him again after all his bullshit antics?

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One would hope not. But the stats say that sitting presidents mostly get re-elected.

But have we confirmed that he's actually going to put his hat in the ring again? I don't think he wanted the job in the first place.

OP photoshopped a picture of his own sagging asshole onto the president's face. Shameful.

I don't think you get that meme.

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>But have we confirmed that he's actually going to put his hat in the ring again? I don't think he wanted the job in the first place.
Retard, he's been out-fundraising every other candidate.

Are dems still insane?
Yep, well shit gotta vote for orange man again

>But the stats say that sitting presidents mostly get re-elected.

The stats also said that Trump couldn't possibly win.

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i sure hope so
never have i felt more aligned with a president
i mean obama was great and everything but i lost a lot of money under his leadership that as far as I know went straight into some nigger's pocket cause they were gaming the system by having 6 fucking kids
i'm not saying i don't want to help but i am saying i don't want them to have my money

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Remember, that disgruntled Obama voters voted for Trump. Accept the truth that democracy is inferior to the deep state that runs the show.

im a white moderate, i despite party politics

but ill probably vote for trump unless the democratic candidate is exceptionally good

i feel like trump is the only candidate concerned about white people at all

So he HAS confirmed he's going to try again then. Whelp, what can you do? I guess he's free to.

Well, there are polls for one election cycle and there are stats going back a long fucking time. If I had to bet, I'd put my money on the sitting-president stat than the polls.

of course he is.
otherwise he's going to jail

They're referencing the polls from 2016 that said he only had a 2% chance to win.

>im a white moderate
>i feel like trump is the only candidate concerned about white people at all

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Lol, probably true. Good tactic, I'd say. And for him, it's probably a pretty easy job, so why not make a bunch of cash for nothing.

No, I get that. But again, the situation has changed a lot since then.

Meme all you want faggot, I hope you're prepared for 4 more years of mindfucking from the feral, eternally assblasted left.

>No, I get that. But again, the situation has changed a lot since then.
Yeah, in Trump's favor.

with unemployment the lowest its been in 50 years, i bet that gets him re elected.

lol idk what your image is supposed to mean, i was being completely honest

i voted for obama

still better than hillary

>leftists fantasizing about a financial collapse so they can do their "i told you so" dance

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this
15% mainly in midwestern states.
those voters are lost now due to policy. dems have to make up those numbers

>dems have to make up those numbers
By doing away with the concept of borders and offering gibs in return for votes.

Yes, that's what I meant. It's one thing to say he could be elected, but the situation is completely different during a re-election.

Reminds me of Christian Apologists and their "infinitesimal change" arguments. i.e. "What are the odds that the earth is JUST the right distance from the sun to support life?" The answer is 100% since it's actually happened. Stats don't work backwards in time, only forwards.

so if i flip a coin and it lands on heads, was there a 100 percent chance that would happen?

Seems like you've got your head on straight, cheers.

Once you see "heads", that's when 100% certainty occurs. Before that, it's 50-50.

Yes.

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In that one instance, yes. But since the universe doesn't operate on coin flipping...

Imagine being this smart.

how can there be odds of an action occurring that has already occurred?

yeah vote against him because of the few remarks hes made, vote for satanists and child molesters instead right? kys..

The point is the universe doesn't operate in odds, if it can happen it will happen. Odds are a human abstraction that helps us make sense of the universe.

thats true, but saying something like "there is a 100 percent chance that a thing that has already happened will occur"

just sounds like idiot talk

That's absolutely not true. Probability rules all. The word probability is a human invention, the meaning behind it is not.

There can't, he's retarded.

can i hear a woman giving birth while a mariachi band plays a cover of In The End while getting a blowjob from a thai whore? yes
will it happen? no

>just sounds like idiot talk
On the surface yes, I got a chuckle out of it myself, but I see the next layer too which makes the reaction to the surface layer funnier.

What's the probability that a hydrogen atom will spontaneously transmute into a gold atom? Is there a probability at all?

"i was only PRETENDING to be retarded!"

It seems like an obvious point, but this type of faulty logic is used often in arguments and can bamboozle the simpleminded.

Again, for examples, look to arguments made by Christian Apologists. I think it's called the Goldilocks argument and it's fallacious.

You can assign odds to something that you know about. But it's a degenerate case and is either 0 or 1.

Hey Cletus, get back on that short bus.

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For the record I'm not the one who said that.

>the guy with enough money to keep a campaign running the rest of his life has raised more funds than any other candidate more than a year before the elections even happen despite the fact that he's supposed to be the acting president.
I kept trying to add to this sentence to make it sound more absurd but it still just sounds like what's already been going on the past three years or more.

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You pulled a Biden just now: you confused "rich" people with "white" people.

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yeah but it's gonna take some math on your part

>Meme all you want faggot
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you fucking voted for "a big fan of Israel"
kys

nope,his views on gun rights alone are going to prevent 95 percent of the republican party from voting for him again

>him but will moderates vote for him
absolutely, because theres no such thing as a moderate democrat

>the stats

lol,right.lets get back to reality here and realize donald trump is hated by

1. conservatives

2. gun owners

3. educated republicans

that pretty much makes up the majority of the republican party.the toothless rednecks arent going to be able to win trump a 2nd term.because nobody else is gonna vote for him again

>obama voters

>voted for trump

yet,republicans still support him.LOL,no wonder why they choose immigration over important things like gun rights

do you read posts before you reply and lack the ability to comprehend and reply to what they say or do you just see that "(YOU)" and go to the next part of the script?

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also,let me sum up most obama supporters

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Registered Democrat and first-term Obama voter checking in. Voted for Trump in 2016, will vote for him again in 2020 because the Democratic candidates literally have nothing good to offer.

I voted for Bernie in the 2016 election primaries but he's too old now...I will not elect an 80-year-old leader. People who are 80 can't think in their feet...they barely do anything on their feet to be honest.

how ironic,the "my president is black"guy is saying that democrats have nothing good to offer.let me clue in you obama supporting retard,obama was shit to

"vote against him"
"vote for satanists and child molesters instead"

lol look at this retard

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>can't think in their feet

kys

Those were not polls. When are you fucking idiots going to understand this? What you're talking about is the PROGNOSTICATIONS.

As for the POLLS, when you combine the 14 major national polls, they were only off by about 3 points.

What Bullshit Antics?
His policies haven't been that different from Bill Clinton's.
He hasn't Fucked an Intern or Invaded anywhere.

Are you retarded? Why would you not support him he's done everything good this far. Fucking libtards will hate on him no matter what you mentally ill waste of cum

stay informed soyboy.

But those educated gun carrying Republicans that hate him won't vote Democrat. I'm Republican. I don't care for him at all. But I'll still take it over the bat shit crazy ideas the dems are throwing around.

Truthfully, I have no idea what to expect. This is without a doubt the strangest era I've ever lived in. I haven't felt safe since Trump took over - this cold sensation in my gut that probably isn't warranted, but there it is anyway.

he's turned our farmers into welfare cucks,
and he's sucked the dick of every dictator around the globe.

Just soybean farmers.

What the fuck you say about soybeans mother fucker?

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Who do you think these people will vote for? It is extremely unlikely that any of them will vote for a Democrat. It is far more likely that most of them will vote Trump in hopes of something better in four years.

>votes for trump
>doesn't want to vote for someone who can't think in their feet

Such as?

At the end of the day-yes, Trump is a fucking retard.
However, there is no one, in a field of 20+ candidates on the democrat side that are qualified to lead the nation.

This is true. People will vote for trump just because they don't want to vote Democrat.

Also, you haven't mentioned one huge voting block, the Evangelicals. They will undoubtedly vote Trump since he was in office when the anti-abortion stuff came up. And there's nothing they like more than encouraging the creation of poor single mothers for some reason.

soybeans are great.

soyboys are brainwashed faggots.

Healthcare as a right
$15/hr minimum wage
Minimum limits, if any, to immigration
Gun control that goes far beyond Trump
Intersectional politics

I was thinking before that Trump would lose the re-election bid, because the polarizing way he governs along with demographic changes in many red states, would push more progressives to go out and vote and american elections are based on mobilization of your bases, more than general public approval.

But i`ve been reading most syndicated polls and even if in many issues he's getting poor grades, hope in the economy is up about 15-16% since he took office.

That means the democratic bid is going to have to sidestep a major, huge, day-to-day issue which is: Did MY life get better or worse? Yeah cool moral issues bro, but my wage went up and my farm is finally getting better subsidies.

I am a VERY leftist libtard, but it's a tough sell. If democrats continue believing their own bullshit that the people are fed up with Trump, they'll lose.

Trumps win in the first place was because Hillary fucked every good candidate on the left and every candidate on the right was a joke. If a similar situation happens again (which it seems to be ) then yes he'll win.

Depends. His character stands against him, but his policy work is partially good partially crap. If the opponent seems to have decent character, and not a crazy illiberal leftist ideology...

The truth is somewhere in between.

If they (democrats and media) accuse him of being racist it is because the polls show blacks are favoring him. If they accuse him of antisemitism it's because the Jews are favoring him. If they bring up womanizing its because women are polling good for Trump.

You can see the patterns like clockwork.

The dems still pushing the racist thing? Ask why. Look into it. Also some are claiming the founding of the country was racism. Read the Declaration and the Constitution. There is literally nothing supporting racism.

Prove me wrong.

How can you oppose healthcare as a right?

Considering how far left the Left is leaning, Moderates are the new Right.

huh, i have the opposite feeling, the world feels more safe than ever
when trump won the presidency everyone lost their shit and they did some really immature stuff like riots and such, which i admit have their use but over a presidency? it's not like it's civil rights or anything
anyway, those people acted out as hard as they could and the national guard didn't kick down their doors and shoot them int he street or anything
in fact they were given free reign to voice their opinions and most communities were more than willing to protect them from any retaliation for their often lurid tactics, they got away clean and free
and no one cared, the president didn't get the storm troopers in the mix to hunt them down
in fact it seems like his presidency has mostly been benign if one takes away their own emotions and preconceptions

>i made statements without providing any evidence. Now it's your job to actually provide facts.

Honey that is not how that works.

>Read the Declaration and the Constitution. There is literally nothing supporting racism.

They literally owned slaves. "Oh wow these niggers are amazing workers, what such amazing work ethics, i love these niggers!"

Yep, that's my question too. The whole thing is crazy broken.

In my mind, it's not ok that normal working people can be instantly bankrupted just because they got sick or just die because the insurance companies decide that their fancy expensive illness would hurt their profits too much and just deny them. Healthcare at the very least can't be for-profit

Poetry

>wont vote for an old stable fuck
>will vote for an old unstable fuck
Jesus Christ you are stupid user.

Bernie is only 4 years older than trump

>I haven't felt safe since Trump took over

This is me too. Always, always on edge. Kind of like driving in a car with a really old person who has convinced you that their eyesight and reflexes "are just fine, thank you very much" as they scrape against the guardrail for the third time.

More this. Healthcare isn't a right. But in a country that wishes to consider itself just, it is a moral obligation. The entire medical/insurance industry should be non-profit. Benefiting from the misery of others is ((evil))

Do Americans even realize that like even shitty 3rd world countries provide free healthcare? Like fucking Cuba, Brazil, a bunch of east european shitholes...

You don't even need to get rid of health insurance for those who want it. Brazil is a mixed system, they have private health insurance and Unified Health System, that probably sucks, but also probably keeps shit in check. Point is if poor countries can do it, why can't the richest fucking nation on earth.

so if i drink my liver to shit i ahve the right to get free organ transfer and dialysis and all that for free and when i get my new liver i get drunk as a fuckin skunk again and need a new one so fuck the government, ami right? i need this healthcare to get fucking wasted
or im a fat fuck who doesn't give a shit so because of my right to healthcare you can't tell me that i need to change my diet since i can just get a bypass or some fuckin surgery and still eat all i fucking want without giving one fuck about the consequences
drug addiction? sign me the fuck up, don't worry guvments got my back, i'll just go to rehab for free
unprotected sex and i end up with six kids and a wealth of STDs? fuck it, governments got it

you guys right what could go wrong!

Vote for her

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>believing moderate voters still exist in the US
kikkity kekkety

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>Kind of like driving in a car with a really old person who has convinced you that their eyesight and reflexes "are just fine, thank you very much" as they scrape against the guardrail for the third time.
Accurate

You argue as if this is a mystical unicorn of idea from utopialand where hypotheticals become reality because libtards wet-dreamed them into reality.

This ALREADY exists. EVERY rich country on Earth does this. This isn't a brand new fucking idea, that raises these plot-hole questioning "WELL WUT IFFF". Is that what people are doing in London, drinking their liver into oblivion because oh well i'll get a new one?
Fucking retard, contextualize yourself.

Democrats: I understand that some people will abuse the system, but its worth letting it happen so all the people who deserve good healthcare can have it

Republicans: I understand that good deserving people will be denied healthcare, but its worth it so long as those who don't deserve it don't get it.

As many owned them, the founding documents were ratified stating all men were created equal...
Lincoln cited this in his push for and eventual realization of emancipation.

Though they may have been considered 'racists' they governed in favor of liberty for all.

Your dismissive comment is ignorant and incomplete.

These guys get it

You can always find outliers and the "free rider" problem will always exist. But that doesn't mean that as a whole, we won't be better off.

yeah, i know it exists but you're talking about a country the size of a continent compared to one that is less than half the size of california
it's easy to cover healthcare costs when your population is so low
why don't you contextualize yourself, jackass?

Buh, buh, Hillary!

Because Dems care more about helping everyone, where Republicans care way more about punishing everyone they don't like.

>it's easy to cover healthcare costs when your population is so low
Actually, that doesn't matter so much. More people mean more costs but it also means more tax revenue. Everything scales up.

Very accurate summary

This.
And in most countries with healthcare its not like everything is free and you have no liability. Its run like an insirance company but instead of profits the thing is actually focused on providing you healthcare.

Who will be doctors? Who will selflessly study endlessly to be the best doctor if the best they will get is 30% returns?

Youre ignorant of how markets work. If 'healthcare' is a 'right', how would one compel the caregiver to give care without compensation? Would your 'right' to receive care trump the caregivers rights?

Think of it this way, when you go to work at McDonalds tonight, imagine if hamburgers are suddenly declared a 'right'. So people will come get them and you will endlessly be cooking them and then since they are a right, nobody pays for it. You just cook it for them. Now you see?

Your attempt to frame the founding fathers as these a-temporal moral compasses is typical of american high-school levels of enlightenment philosophy teaching. It's anachronistic in essence because it attempts to universalize their values without realizing that their own concept of freedom and liberty is radically different form your own, and most importantly meant different things to the very own different founding fathers. Read their own justifications for slavery. They were deeply religious and ethnical in nature. Some justified slavery based on Abel and Caim. Some based on the necessity to "civilize" them. Some of them even argued that "negroes" weren't men. This conceptual separation of what "men" was lasted well into the 19th century, with voting laws allowing slave owners to cast votes worth 3/5ths of what slaves were. These institutions lasted well into the 20th century with jim crow laws.

Holy fucking retard Batman.
How about you take a minute and look up how the rest of the civilized world does it you dumbass?
Notice how every developed country isn't imploding on itself due to healthcare?
Why do you think America is uniquely incapable of accomplishing what so many other countries have?

I'm just literally going to copy and paste what i wrote earlier:

You argue as if this is a mystical unicorn of idea from utopialand where hypotheticals become reality because libtards wet-dreamed them into reality.

This ALREADY exists. EVERY rich country on Earth does this. This isn't a brand new fucking idea, that raises these plot-hole questioning "WELL WUT IFFF". Is that what people are doing in London, drinking their liver into oblivion because oh well i'll get a new one?
Fucking retard, contextualize yourself.

>the medical care received in Cuba is the same medical care received in the US.
>ok buddy.

Um, so firemen are a good example of people taking a job with wages and standards dictated by the government. Saying no one will want to be doctors in reply to a person who clearly demonstrated that all levels of economies have doctors ready and willing to work shows you really arent trying to learn anything.

HAHA

So wherein the Declaration of Independence OR the Constitution does it cite slavery, owning them, or even condoning 'racism'?

Nevermind me, my views. Nevermind jim crow- a democrat law (irony much?) a state level law

I am discussing the underlying virtue of liberty.

the stats have never had to account for a lazy, retarded, con man who is only successful cause daddy "loaned" him millions of dollars right out of college and has no political experience, being president though

>I've never been the victim of a violent crime so I don't see why my tax dollars should go to a police force!
>Why should my tax dollars go to a fire department when there are arsonists that abuse the system?

Uhm, thats state level stuff. Not federal all encompassing dictates from on high. The State and localities pay cops and fire fighters. You don't have a right to firefighting or personal protection.

Your argument doesn't make sense.

A few? He sounds like a fuckin idiot every time he opens his mouth. Oh and he’s a hypocrite.

Isn't imploding? Ok buddy.

>>I've never been the victim of a violent crime so I don't see why my tax dollars should go to a police force!
>>Why should my tax dollars go to a fire department when there are arsonists that abuse the system?
What are you even arguing here?

Wow what a great point, hadn't even considered that.
I now understand your opinion of not wanting people to be helped.

>Republicans and Democrats never switched platforms in the 50's so when i say Democrats supported Jim Crow i somehow de-legitimize Democrats today, for something Republicans are literally doing right now, i'm so intelligent!

Article One, Section 3 Clause 3 "Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States which may be included within this Union, according to their respective Numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years, and excluding Indians not taxed, three fifths of all other Persons."
INCLUDING THOSE BOUND TO SERVICE. That's the notorious 3/5ths compromised you fucking ignorant baboon.
BUT HUR IT DONT SAY THE WORD SLAVE SO IT NO MEAN SLAVE WAS MENTIONED.
Bound to Service was the legal name of slavery.

This is the standard way people argue against having healthcare in the US carried to the extreme. Shows how ridiculous that type of thinking can get.

"all men are created equal" (except black people lololol 3/5)

I get it. Its basically:
Find facts---->Facts don't support my opinion at all ------>Change subject instead of opinion

I support him simply because he showed me how fucking childish the people around me are. Instead of calm and cool discussion about his failings, it's all literally a circle jerk of orange man bad. I wanted to believe the memes were hyperbole. But they're not.

I rather chose a solid piece of shit, over a slimy splash of diarrhea.

What bullshit antics?

He's a fucking shill. Progressive leftist in disguise. My days of voting are over. Civil War 2 is the only thing that can fix America.

>I support him
>how fucking childish the people around me are
Imagine the irony for the rest of us

>Civil War 2
Fuck yes. Do it already.
Quit your fucking bitching and split up the country.
"United" States. Lmao.

keep telling yourself that and going for pedos and satanists, you would shit your pants little boy.

>People with brain damage will always support him

Says you, the retards who cried and wined about moving to Canada if Trump got elected. If anybody's got antics its the faggot ass Democrats

>Petty insult
>No substance

Thanks for proving my point. How does it feel knowing someone who doesn't give a fuck about politics will vote one way simply to cancel out your vote?

Straw man

Policy aside...

do DT supporters even realize how much of a joke he makes our country look to the rest of the world? Are you all just OK with him being a raving lunatic in exchange for the policy you like?

>i feel like trump is the only candidate concerned about white people at all
Concerned... I'm white as fuck... what's there to be concerned about?

>muh dwumpf finna goto jail

As with the rest of you who are literally too stupid to vote in your own interests, I find it sad user.
By all means, keep shooting yourselves in the feet and waiting to see how it will upset us.
The fact that you vote the way that you do really just proves how worthless your opinion is, yet I doubt that you will comprehend that.

Keep eating shit and smiling at how you make us smell your breath.

>to cancel out your vote?
Also, I'm not American. (Thank the fucking universe)

his stock market returns suck bbc

Yes because quite frankly, the rest of the world already saw us that way.

And quite frankly, I don't give a shit about what the rest of the world thinks. Half of them can't read or write their own name, the other half are fucking socialists. A good majority of them will demonize America regardless of what we do because of their own psychotic projections of their own fucked up society onto ours.

And none of them have freedom of speech; their opinions don't matter because they're only allowed to say what their governments allow them to say. And that includes Europe where you can't even say 'faggot' or 'nigger' in quotation marks in an academic manner without being hauled away by police. So fuck those knuckle walking idiots

He's a puppet at this point, you'd have to be a retard at this point not to realize that.
>inb4 muh Hillary
Yes she was absolute shit too.
Doesn't make him any less shit now.

Same shit different poster

>Petty insult
>No substance

Have you ever tried actually being social with people who dont share your opinion, or just maybe have an opinion that can be swayed? You lot would be a lot better off if you knew how to exist outside of an echochamber. But hey, just keep screaming and kicking your feet at the slightest sign of opposition to how you feel, it's done so well for you so far.

>Have you ever tried actually being social with people who dont share your opinion, or just maybe have an opinion that can be swayed? You lot would be a lot better off if you knew how to exist outside of an echochamber.
OMG THE IRONY YOU GUYS
Yes user, I look at sources and facts from all over. Which is why I find it nigh impossible to believe that you do the same yet hold the values that you do.

I get the argument for not caring if ordinary citizens from other parts of the world don't like us.

However, if we want to every get any kind of international collaboration done (trade, peace, climate, science) then it will require cooperation and respect between the leaders of those countires. And at this point I don't think anyone besides virtual dictators respect or cooperate with donald trump. That's a scary reality for an American Citizen who doesn't want to live under a rock and pretend other countries are worthless idiots who don't exist

Because all he cares and thinks about, is himself.
Its a lack of imagination as much as it is selfishness.
It all comes down to how they feel about it, because despite all their bitching and whining, they certifiably the party that listens way more to their feelsies than their left counterparts.
Even when you completely ruffle them with logic about Trump doing stupid shit, they will retort "Yeah but whatever he can be literally retarded I still like him because [insert bullshit here].
They feel good supporting him, and they feel good pissing off people by supporting him.
There is no deeper substance, that's it.

>Which is why I find it nigh impossible to believe
At least you leave room for yourself to be wrong. That's honestly admirable considering most people only want to deal in absolutes.

Ok so like real talk if we're not gonna keep flinging shit at each other:everyone should be that way.
I am 100% always up for having my mind changed.
Like, that's how science works for a reason.
If you aren't open for having your mind changed, then like wtf are you even doing arguing at all.

I had a long reply typed out, but this is Yea Forums, and I doubt we'll get much covered before thread dies. I'll sum it up as best I can.
>I didn't vote for him
>I wouldn't vote for him, I really just say that to piss off insufferable people
>I feel like you're capable of having intellectual conversion
>I feel like most people who share your opinion are not
>I don't care about feelings, I care about logic, so spending time talking about how dumb or orange he is instead of talking about how and why his policies are failing is time wasted

I have never seen a Republican come out of a discussion with a democrat admitting the other has a point. I have however, seen a democrat come out of a discussion with a republican with an agreement on a certain topic.
you cant win an argument, you cant flip a party, but you can agree on certain things if you remain objective.
The replies to this comment will cement my remarks as truth.

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>>I don't care about feelings, I care about logic, so spending time talking about how dumb or orange he is instead of talking about how and why his policies are failing is time wasted
Ya know, when dealing with someone who will actually stay on topic and argue the points, I totally agree.
However, it has been my experience that very few people who tout him as their saviour actually have the capacity to take the time, look at the facts, and come up with an argument more than 'stay mad kid'.
I guess I've become jaded and don't even try most of the time anymore.
Sorry for the hate user.

He won't win next time. Florida passed a law allowing felons to vote. Around 2 million democratic votes will turn the swing state to the left. Easy to win when all the CRIMINALS are on your side.

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I find part of the problem is that Republicans seem to think that finding common ground is a weakness in itself.

>Sorry for the hate user
It's well deserved. That bit about voting to cancel someones vote makes people fucking furious. It's shameful on my behalf, but man I've dealt with awful people when talking about politics, so now I just go right for the throat.

I've got a friend whos...man i cant really say what he is. Wears a soviet union ushanka, hates trump, fairly certain he's a republican, says he used to rally for some zionist shit, blah blah blah I'm not really sure what he is, but in the very least he keeps me current on things. I feel like politics are motivated more by money than by good intentions, and I've just become completely apathetic to it all. Imo, best thing you can do is get a good job, get land and a house, and rule that area the way you want.

>I feel like politics are motivated more by money than good intentions
no shit sherlock

>best thing you can do is get a good job, get land and a house, and rule that area the way you want.
Well said.
God I miss the days when our political beliefs weren't the centre of so many people identities.
When people on both sides could at least agree on who their real common enemies were, etc.
>I've just become completely apathetic to it all
Pretty much where I am as well. I don't even know why I respond anymore to be honest.
It isn't productive, and it doesn't change anyone's minds. Rather, it even pushes people further into their own corners.
Thanks for the real talk user.
I think this is literally the best way our shit bickering could have ended.

NOW KISS!!!!

Should we be trading with China? Should we be bolstering the economy of a country that uses its money to commit genocide and harvesting the organs of Falun Gong practitioners?

Should we support a country that pollutes the environment by creating massive amounts of trash and then creates trash burning power plants that gives everybody within 5 mile radius cancer and health problems?

Oh, but if Donald Trump puts tariffs on China and the stock market overreacts, it's because he's a jackass who other international leaders respect.

>And at this point I don't think anyone besides virtual dictators respect or cooperate with donald trump

Yeah, that's why he's getting along so well with Putin, Xi Jinping, and Kim Jong-Un.

>if we want to every get any kind of international collaboration done (trade, peace, climate, science) then it will require cooperation and respect between the leaders of those countires.

That may be true, but the only way to get respect from our enemies is to not let them push us over, nor be complacent when they abuse human rights. What good is peace if all it does is allows tyrants free reign to kill people and prevents good people from intervening?

>it's because he's a jackass who other international leaders respect.

*meant doesn't respect

Just get home from school, kid. Let adults handle this.

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How stupid could you possibly be to be American and give the Democrats even the slightest amount of power? Trump is a God considering the alternative.

The US has a system. If you can afford it, you get it. If you cant you get medicare or Medicaid depending on financial and health factors.

Not wrong. The way we think is fundamentally different at the very core for a large percentage of us.

>Hurppa Duuurrrpppa... Who will be doctors?
You know other countries have doctors right? But something that would help make it even less challenging is getting a grip on our out of control education costs.

>I think this is literally the best way our shit bickering could have ended.

Feels good to be mature adults
Wait why the fuck are we on Yea Forums?

You're blinded by your own hatred and bigotry. Your opinion is worthless.

>Deported fewer illegals than the left's progressive messiah Obama
>No new US military actions / wars on under Trump - first President to achieve that since Jimmy Carter
>Strongest economy and lowest unemployment in decades
>Largest middle class income growth since Bill Clintons Presidency.

Theres plenty to criticize Trump for, but hes on track to be re-elected regardless what hysterics filled faux outrage BS Democrats sling his way. To be honest with ya OP, the Democrats shifting hard lrft and prioritizing illegals ove homeless Americans / the working poor has only cost them more votes when 2020 rolls around.

Yeah, sure. OK.

>the Democrats shifting hard lrft and prioritizing illegals ove homeless Americans
Oh man.... there's always this to fall back on. You can't lift a finger to help anyone else unless "XYZ" has been helped already. But hey... prioritizing corporations and the top .01% is just fine, right? Because you're going to be in that .01% some day, right? Just as soon as Trump kicks out all those darn Mexicans taking your jobs.
And Democrats shifting hard left? Look at your own party. Reagan wouldn't even sit down at the same fucking table as Trump and his cronies given the chance.