So I'm reading this manga Sakuranbo Syndrome... and this guy Agawa-sensei is a businessman with a taste for romance. But he's a total misogynist who can't learn the bare necessities in what women like or find enjoyable. He makes up for this by being a successful businessman who constantly shoulders the blame for issues women should be able to carry themselves.
So far, it's absolutely awful. But I think it's pretty interesting how well the artist has recreated some of the stereotypes.
For example, if a woman says, "Dinner is on me tonight," she's telling you that there is a side of her she's willing to show you on your date. It means she's willing to take some special responsibility in taking you out for a meal. There might even be an intimate moment between you two.
Agawa-sensei immediately fumbles over his practiced coolness when this happens. I mean, what the heck?!
If you're having coffee with a girl, and she seems interested in whether or not you have a girlfriend, do you think the appropriate thing to do is dismiss her feelings? She's not asking you because she wants to know about your track record with women, you know!
If you're with a girl and she allows you to wrestle or even just play with her, do you ignore her feelings or completely sour the mood by trying to play the cool, debonair businessman? I mean he literally tosses her off the mattress! And he thinks it's funny! The worst part is she doesn't even show a speck of hatred. He really has no idea what's inside a woman's head, does he?
Okay so, after Agawa-sensei finally gets to sleep with his work superior, he finds out she's a total otaku wit tons of toys, stuffed animals and other "children's" paraphenalia. This is boring, that's not even the part I wanted to talk about. But it is important!
Not only is she mildly attractive, but she uses her fidelity for childhood to maintain security as a person. And what does Agawa-sensei allow her to do, IN THE BEDROOM? Crack the bed of course! She goes full-blown, hardcore cowgirl and snaps the board in two. A woman like that is bound to let herself go, especially during sex. But does Agawa-sensei realize anything might be wrong with a woman who says "you can cum inside," on the first date?
Of course not! Of course he doesn't realize this. He doesn't realize this because he's a flaming idiot who sees nothing wrong with a dual-personality becoming addicted to sex, and subsequently his love-junk!
How can one character hate women so fucking much!? Jesus Christ, it's like he does everything wrong! It's like he's doing it on purpose, this manga makes me so depressed but I can't stop reading.
Oh and to top it all off, the girl he's in love with has a fatal disease that causes her to regress in age unless she makes out with Agawa-sensei daily.
On the first date! Any one with sense in their noggin could tell a woman like that is gonna go SSGSSBSSJ in the bedroom. AND it broke during cowgirl! You know his pelvis is fucking crushed! How's he gonna go back to work tomorrow?!
Don't you feel weird!? Don't you feel like there's a voice whispering to you?! Like maybe, there are gods out there... gods of storytelling trying to tell you something important about women like that? Isn't there something, anything at all that sounds like an alarm in you!?
What is important in a relationship? What do men and women want to do with each other!?
Your fortune: You will meet a dark handsome stranger
This guy, he's talking to the ghost of his dead dad. The ghost advises him of coming treachery in the kingdom. When Hamlet takes heed, he realizes his life truly is threatened. He tries to protect himself, but his efforts only exact revenge against his assassins.
It's a commonly used story in western fiction to describe the cunning a person has in unfurling conspiracy. Where there might be conspiracy, true, but altogether a myth is not without its mystery.
I only sleep on the left side of the bed so I can see if the TV so you would sleep on the right side of the bed next to that so you wouldn't be able to see the TV
Luke Hall
That's a bad idea.
I know a guy who sleeps on the cold pillow and he wakes up cranky.
I can't tell if you're stupid or if you're just putting on a show for people but either way I don't think it's very moral or intelligent to screw with a crazy person this way.
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Ryan Nguyen
I'm very stupid but don't tell anyone
Logan Cox
I couldn't tell anyone because I have no fucking friends. Something you've just made into a comedy. Leave me alone please.
And you're doing that by ignoring the things I say and persecuting me on Yea Forums knowing that cops might get involved with a 80% chance of hospitalization?
I pull a box cutter against my throat. You say some rude or vacillating thing. I streak it across my neck and I end up in the hospital for three days. Seven if I'm lucky.
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Blake Smith
Typical nightjar tactics you dishonorable bastard
Noah Campbell
Jevin this is at least the twelfth thread you've ruined. I lost count after six, how many more of my threads are you going to shit up before I get peace on Yea Forums?
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Kayden Rodriguez
As many as i can until you cum inside me
Grayson Allen
I've reported you now.
You made me post personal info in my thread, told me you were my friend, vacillated on that, and proceeded to evince sexual responses, none of which you will confirm.
That goes under (raid)
Your fortune: Very Bad Luck
Justin Cruz
stop making seuss embarrassed and generally uncomfortable TriS that's not nice or cool
He was probably the victim of sexual violence at a younger age sorry for the spoilers you condescending fuck.
Jason Morales
chekt + rekt
Caleb Powell
To give a representative example, in the fourth story, “The Hidden Flower,” the Black Cat manipulates the narrator into a situation in which she will be raped by his uncle so that he can prove a point to her. His uncle doesn’t take the bait, and so the Black Cat brings the narrator home with him and hypnotizes her so that she won’t remember what happened. He can’t stop himself from bragging about the incident after the fact, however, because he still wants the narrator to understand the point he’s trying to make. Instead of being like, “Wow, it’s super not cool that you set me up to be sexually assaulted for the sake of winning an argument and then tried to gaslight me,” the narrator is comforted by the level of control the Black Cat is capable of exerting over her. At the end of the story, she says, “My head slumps onto the Black Cat’s shoulder. Safe and secure, I feel I could sleep forever” (96-7).
In any case, this is merely one of the many examples of the Black Cat’s patronizing attitude regarding the narrator and her subsequent worship of him.
The Black Cat Takes A Stroll is an unironic romanticization of male misogyny within an academic context, and I hated every page. If you’re a woman who has seen male colleagues promoted ahead of you, and if you’re sick of being told your business by insufferable male douchebags, and if you’re frustrated by the societal assumption that men know more about your mind and body than you do, then the stories in this collection might hit a little too close to home. The gut punches this book delivers are frequent and unyielding, and I couldn’t read more than five pages at a time. Even if you’re not as sensitive to overt sexism as I am, I still don’t think the mysteries presented by the author (such as the mystery of the letter in the mother’s underwear drawer) are all that original or compelling.
Your fortune: Average Luck
Angel Howard
>a fatal disease that causes her to regress in age Jesus christ what a japanese fantasy device.
Sounds like the author is mostly based, this dude's indifference is what helps him get all the sexy ladies.
Hudson Davis
tenth grade romance and a perspective on sociability that is neither important or penetrable
Your fortune: Bad Luck
Jayden Thomas
The ages fourteen to fifteen are predominantly viewed as the ages a teenager becomes fully developed and enters into the late stages of puberty. At the height of his nascent adulthood, a tenth grader stands as the shining image of what he will look and feel like for the rest of his life. Many configurations are set during this age, such as intimacy, sexual attraction and even perspectives on romance. However, since a tenth grader is prone to these changes, he is likely to think and behave in a way which assumes there is nothing left to learn. As a result, a person who shares several sexual difficulties with this age may never quite grow out of their dilemma, especially if they are not confronted or challenged appropriately. A fifteen year old may feel like his perspectives on sex and sexuality are confirmational, he may even feel they are less an issue of circumstance and more an internalized struggle.
The young adult age poses many threats of psychoanalysis and maturity for teens of all cultures and is a frequently visited topic in American sitcoms, film and literature. It is an age where a person is most likely to relinquish their adulthood, while immiserating their childhood, which can be a very disturbing and critical situation for any person, of any age.
Because the ages of fourteen to fifteen can be so confusing, it can leave a person with very real issues sexually, especially for the rest of his life. For example, a person who has stunted sexual growth may believe his perspectives on sexuality are an internal struggle. This is popular. A person's perspectives on sexuality are not an internal struggle, they are an outward representation of what you do or do not approve of. Picture if you will a sexual idol, such as Duke Nukem or Ryu Hayabusa, even Chun-Li from Street-Fighter. A character which is iconic for this sophistication and sexual confidence. You'll sometimes say, "I want to be that," or, "I would like that confidence as well." You can already notice the designs of big business playing off of your sexual insecurities.
The reason this age is so critical is because it serves as a platform for what will eventually dominate the rest of your adult life. So, if it is crippled, or deterministic in such a way that your sexuality does not provide for you, rather that it swindles you out of your happiness, you're more likely to believe in all kinds of sadosexual responses to neuroticism and sexual intimacy.
The reason why being a tenth grader is so critical becomes clear. The realms of subjective qualia and external experience become so confusedly mixed in a young adult that it can become impossible to determine a positive mode of arousal, not without sacrificing something such as childhood or maturity. Freud suggests "we have become acquainted with a second mechanism for forgetting something: the disturbance of an idea by an inner contradiction arising from something repressed." Often a tenth grader (especially a tenth grader), will masturbate and feel he is losing something such as his maturity, or his childhood once orgasm is achieved. He might say, "I'm too old for this," or, "I'm still such a child for doing this."
The ages fourteen to fifteen can be relentless in discovery and an extremely rocky time in a young adults sexual sphere. Television shows Evangelion among others explore the touchiness of an age which is raw and very vulnerable to any small and often subtle impacts on their sexuality.
Your fortune: You will meet a dark handsome stranger
Again, sexual promise in a young adult is very chaotic and produced through a misstep of both age and maturity. He may feel confused, and tell himself jerking off is for losers, despite the boon and encouragement teachers, family and friends can give him in expressing his sexual feelings. He may also feel that his sexuality is an internal contest, a race to see which urges are the strongest. This is also inaccurate. The media makes good on its promise to financially manipulate young adults and teens by exploiting their sexual insecurities. Freud indicates again, "The fact that fortuitous actions are really intentional will be especially readily accepted in the field of sexual activity, where the borderline between chance and intention really does seem blurred."
The desire to achieve sexual happiness in a young adult will so greatly outweigh the desire to achieve sexual security that it can stunt growth entirely. Not only leading to poor sexual choices such as placing yourself in sexually uncomfortable areas, (an introvert choosing to have sex at parties exclusively), but also a relativism of sexual qualia which disables the person from functioning normally. A person may age and reconcile normally with their sexual feelings: "when I was young, she was so beautiful, she reminded me of this and that." Typically a thought which is more often than not repressed in a young adult. Unfortunately, this phenomenon is so easily described that it is coordinated in adults too. Athletes never find a way to express or involve their emotional attachment to sex, artists are constantly wrapped up in underage sex scandals. These frustrations and mechanical discoveries are so constant and important that they can, again, influence a person's entire sexuality.
I think it's Kago-Chan, they use her to introduce the topic of lesbianism to the story.
Agawa-Sensei is a total misogynist, and he probably doesn't have a clue what women want, so the author needed a foil to accurately represent his shortcomings, that's represented by Asou-chan, and the subsequent lesbian romances of lesser characters.
what women like is unimportant. They ruin societies
Caleb Garcia
Are you being ironic? The more of this you post, like this for example, the more clear it becomes that the author knows that Agawa's disregard for the wants of others is exactly why he is successful with women.
How old are you? I'm guessing, if you're being serious, that you're not very successful with women.
You wouldn't find a successful answer to your problem by using anecdotal evidence.
You would want facts of statistics to register your assertion rather than use an allegory about impassiveness to compliment a fictional character. The writing is primarily bad by many designs both critical and analytic, I can exercise the theory very reasonably from just the first couple volumes.
Yeah but he thinks he can write so let's rustle his jimmies.
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Colton Diaz
who, the mangaka? Why do you think he'd care about what you think?
Yeah yeah sure, anecdotal whatever, of course nothing can be proven. You're using pretty elaborate language to describe what seems to be a simply romance comic. They're not exactly known for being true to life.
I can simplify it if you want: the writing is terrible, the writing is sexist.
Your fortune: Very Bad Luck
Hunter Nelson
I read this manga. Pretty disappointing ending, clearly rushed
Carter Diaz
It feels like it's struggling to explain some of its key themes.
Your fortune: Better not tell you now
Cameron Brown
I don't remember it being particularly good to start with, but the ending was just horrible
Xavier Anderson
I have a penchant for reading and dissecting bad stories. This one is special.
Your fortune: Bad Luck
Jack Bailey
you say that as if it's a bad thing
Japan is one of the few mordernized countries where it's still acceptable to show that there are differences between men and women. There are, and that's OK.
Benjamin Smith
The differences are marginalized and fundamentally inaccurate, based on a culture that celebrates sex and immiserates the celibate.
>The differences are marginalized and fundamentally inaccurate I'm going to need some examples on what the hell you think you're talking about
Jonathan Gonzalez
Agawa-sensei believes his job is central to the debate of whether or not he can indulge in sexual fantasy.
By design he is marginalized, which is to say, sectioned off from fantasy in very real and mechanical ways. Contrast this with Vladimir Nabokov's Laughter in the Dark or Lolita, where characters do not assume their occupation is the vehicle which restores their sexual motives.
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Thomas Evans
Examples of how "The differences [between men and women] are marginalized and fundamentally inaccurate"
Your fortune: Excellent Luck
Jayden Green
You can easily deliberate the function and roles of men and women by viewing work as a necessary obstacle. Agawa-sensei has a lot going for him: a good job, a romantic relationship with Asou-chan, and even a productive nightlife with coworkers. All of this is threatened by Rena, a nineteen year old girl who is regressing in age unless she kisses Agawa-sensei daily.
Partial to the problem is Asou-chan's relation to work, such that is is a fundamental part of her sexuality as a person. Without work, there is no reprieve. Without reprieve, she cannot enjoy sex. Much like how most Americans get to be past the age of thirty. The mind just tells the body that work is the precursor to play.
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Evan Johnson
Are you manic? This delusional screed is full of non sequiturs, and reeks of a lack of life experience.
Ryan King
Please do not enter my threads and tell me that I'm the one insane. I will easily report you, and have done so many times already.
Your fortune: Good Luck
Juan Howard
please don't claim that a bipolar depressive of a personexperiencing a bout of mania is insane.
But I will exit this thread because you seem like a child and I honestly get more insightful responses from the Doremi-poster than you.
Mason Gonzalez
I don't think you're ready to talk to me on a equal level either. You're looking for insight, which I think is your first mistake.
