Old fag here

Old fag here.

I'm going to spill all the secrets that have allowed me to plow tons of pussy. I only ever was a 6/10 guy with semi-brown skin and a caveman looking face.

1. Use all the dating apps. Tinder. Sign up with Tinder 2 or 3 or 4 times. Tinder randomizes all 100 girls you get to swipe yes or no to, so if you have 4 accounts, that means you get 400 women a day instead of just the 100.
This also works for POF. On POF, you can only message 55 new women a day, so sign up with like 4 accounts. Anyway, dating apps aside.

2. This is an obvious one. Work out. Get washboard abs. I've dug around and got almost every single girl to admit that she gets weak in the knees for washboard abs. If you become buff, confidence also comes with it.


3. Be confident. You won't believe how many times I've been able to get laid by a girl who I thought was out of my league, just because I manned up and started talking to her and made her laugh.

4. Go to public places and talk to random women. You'll get turned down, but it's about practice.

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How much pussy do you actually get using these methods?

I don't know anything about number 1, but 2-4 are actual facts.

Not OP. But here's my two cents of wisdom on how to be a real man.

>Say what you mean. Do what you say.
>Aggressive, passive-aggressive, passive, and assertive. Learn the differences. Be assertive.
>Real confidence comes from experience. There is no other way.
>Experience comes from doing. Try, fail, learn, try again using what you've learned.
>Fear is weakness. Fearlessness is stupidity in action. Learn to overcome both.
>Accept the duality of existence. You simultaneously do not matter and are incredibly special.
>Strive to understand your true motivations. Adjust your goals to match.
>Do what thou wilt...but know that your actions will have consequences.

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>random women
>also, I have HepC

as someone that is an old fag and been very successful at a lot of things, this guy pretty much gets it

>Fear is weakness. Fearlessness is stupidity in action. Learn to overcome both.

So then what do you do...? This makes zero sense.

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>2. This is an obvious one. Work out. Get washboard abs. I've dug around and got almost every single girl to admit that she gets weak in the knees for washboard abs. If you become buff, confidence also comes with it.

How many fatties you fuck?

Recognize your fears, then work to overcome them. Do not let your fears be your motivation.

Do not strive to be "fearless". A lack of fear is a lack of understanding and poor assessment of a situation. Recognize your ignorance, then work to overcome it.

>Do what thou wilt.
thanks mr crowley!
but really, this is all great advice/wisdom

My spin is that your actions have consequences. Sounds like common sense, but people don't act as if that's the case.

Guess I’m fucked.

>Recognize your fears, then work to overcome them. Do not let your fears be your motivation.

I’m scared of being rejected and scared of them calling me a creep or #metoo-ing me if I ask for a date.

>Do not strive to be "fearless". A lack of fear is a lack of understanding and poor assessment of a situation. Recognize your ignorance, then work to overcome it.

I don’t understand and I’m scared as shit. I’m fully aware that I have no idea of what I’m doing either and no clue how to overcome it either. So I’m completely lost and shitting my pants.

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It's all about confidence.
Practice being confident in everything you do.
Look up the definition of confident and remember it verbatim.
Confidence really sums up everything anyone with wisdom has to say.
When you are confident, it opens up the doors to many more opportunities.
Just be confident and don't force it, let it come naturally.

Also, learn to have a bodybuilder diet cause it coincides with alleviating your fears through proper nutrition and being on a nofap.
Stop watching porn and jerking off for a start.

>I’m scared of being rejected and scared of them calling me a creep
Why? How does it hurt you?

>I’m fully aware that I have no idea of what I’m doing either and no clue how to overcome it either
Break your "ignorance" down into smaller, more manageable chunks. Give us a specific example of something that you have no idea what you're doing.

If you can't because, say, you haven't learned the problem-solving tools to do that (which is ok) then you need someone to help you do that. A organizational expert. A life coach. A therapist.
>I can't afford those things!
Then you need to prioritize your wants and needs.

Okay, but why? What's the significance of having a high pussy slain count? Is it about the experiences or the number?

>eye contact
>Smile
>if she holds the eye contacts she's VERY interested
>if she holds for a split second and looks away she is 50% interested
>if she is avoiding eye contact she has no interest and will take serious game to get

that's it.

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Asking the right questions, son.

AKA
>be good looking
>don't be ugly

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women don't care about looks nearly as much as men do. facts.

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>women don't care about looks nearly as much
>nearly as much
So they do care. Got it.

yes, but not nearly as much as you would think. i have friends who are good looking guys, go to the gym, athletic, tall, but they are single because they are awkward and boring.

>Why? How does it hurt you?

Probably because my whole life i don’t think I’ve ever been seen as desirable? It’s hard to explain, simply put I’ve never had girls after me. So I don’t know what’s real or if they even actually like me since I’ve never had a girl actually be interested in me much. I have no idea what that looks like. Weird, but true.

>Break your "ignorance" down into smaller, more manageable chunks. Give us a specific example of something that you have no idea what you're doing.

I don’t know how to flirt. I don’t know how to “attract” a girl, I guess. A couple things just to name them. I don’t know why girls like guys, I find it hard to wrap my head around what they like? I don’t know, I just know from previous experience that I’m not it.

>If you can't because, say, you haven't learned the problem-solving tools to do that (which is ok)

In complete honesty, I don’t know what those tools would be.


>A therapist.

I signed up for therapy actually at a local university for their grad students. I’m a guinea pig for them, they get to learn and I get help.

I think they can deal with awkward moreso than boring.

They don't have confidence, that's all.
It is like a Ferrari without the 500 hp engine and it's replaced with a 4 cylinder 150 one.

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> So I don’t know what’s real
If they're talking to you they're interested in the shit you have to say. If they hint towards leaving, let them.
>I don't know how to flirt
Shit's literally playful banter m8
>I don’t know what those tools would be.
Critical thinking is transferable to all your problems.
Are you sure you're not just running away? All your answers seems to be "Dunno how, won't try"
Also, not user you were speaking to earlier, hopping on here.

Of the 4 you posted, I would rank them from most important to least: 3,4,2,1.

3 is easily the most important, once I developed that, 4 happened by itself. At my prime I was maybe 150 lbs soaking wet, but I had somewhere between 8 to 10% body fat and abs from years of running, swimming and MA. All it took was the abs for me to get a girl.

>If they're talking to you they're interested in the shit you have to say. If they hint towards leaving, let them.

I guess it depends on the context. Maybe they’re not talking and instead just listening which I’m ok with? I’m usually ok with them leaving, hell, I’ll try to leave before they do so it won’t be as awkward. Or to avoid me saying something stupider or creeping her out.

>Shit's literally playful banter m8
Oof I dunno how to do that with a girl I’m into to be perfectly honest. I mean, I can talk to women just fine as if they’re regular people. But when it gets to the more playful stuff I kinda lock up and don’t know what to say.

>Critical thinking is transferable to all your problems.
Ah I see, yeah, I’m screwed. D:

>Are you sure you're not just running away? All your answers seems to be "Dunno how, won't try"

Sounds about right, I think. When I’ve gone for it I just come out feeling worse than before. Thinking to myself why I did or said whatever stupid cringey shit. They probably hate me or are uncomfortable around me now.

>Also, not user you were speaking to earlier, hopping on here.

That’s ok.

>I’ve never had girls after me
Your motivations are based on validation from others. You can't control other people. You need to shift your concerns to things that YOU want, not that you want others to want.
>I want girls to like me
Then what? That doesn't sound like a tangible goal. That sounds like you think things will all "fall into place" once you get a girlfriend. A gf will not complete you or solve any of your actual problems.

>I just know from previous experience that I’m not it.
Nope. Your sample size is too small to draw that kind of conclusion. Additionally, you may also be bad at picking the right girls to be attracted to which would skew your findings.

>I signed up for therapy actually
Right on! That's positive action and you will see the benefit of it. Understand that it will take time and effort, though.

>Sounds about right, I think. When I’ve gone for it I just come out feeling worse than before. Thinking to myself why I did or said whatever stupid cringey shit. They probably hate me or are uncomfortable around me now.

So naturally I want to avoid the shit that didn’t work and hurt me too.

but how does that help me with my video games and waifus ? i dont see a point here.

No joke this sounds a lot like advice I got from a man I respect. He's dead now but he lived and died by his rules. He was a straight shooter, kind, and found joy in so many things. He had the kind of laugh...a genuine, roaring belly laugh that would make the whole room start laughing too. Not sure why I'm sharing any of this. Anyway, just wanted to say this is actually good advice.

>I guess it depends on the context.
I don't really know how else to put this, but here it goes. If someone is spending their time around you there is generally something in it for them. Hanging around when there is literally nothing to gain is against human nature, because all the feelings of being uncomfortable you feel they will feel as well when there is nothing to gain for them by hanging around. So I think it's safe to assume that if they're talking/listening they are interested in something of immediate vicinity.
>Oof I dunno how to do that with a girl I’m into to be perfectly honest.
It's literally a intellectual pillow fight, start soft and ramp up until you find where their lines are. Risk isn't random bullshit it's controlled by you.It's okay to make mistakes, you just gotta take something away from when you fuck up.
>Ah I see, yeah, I’m screwed. D:
Self-deprecation can be cute, try that when you find a qt, just like I said easy on the gas.
>When I’ve gone for it I just come out feeling worse than before
I am going to tap a bit into my weeb side and say pain is inevitable suffering is optional. We all get fucked but it's up to you what you do with that feeling, you don't have to suffer and sit in it, you're choosing to do that.
What steps have you taken to change your situation in the last three months? I am curious which direction you're heading at the moment in your life.

>Your motivations are based on validation from others. You can't control other people. You need to shift your concerns to things that YOU want, not that you want others to want.

I figured it’d be nice to be desirable because when you’ve never felt that way and are touch deprived too... it gets a little rough, user. And what I want is for someone to like me back, I guess.

>Then what? That doesn't sound like a tangible goal. That sounds like you think things will all "fall into place" once you get a girlfriend. A gf will not complete you or solve any of your actual problems.

No, I know that won’t solve my problems. But I don’t have many other problems outside the more common ones (Workplace problems, money problems, etc.). I know this is silly but I never liked the idea of having goals? That’s weird, I know. Or maybe I’m not a fan of calling them goals.

>Nope. Your sample size is too small to draw that kind of conclusion. Additionally, you may also be bad at picking the right girls to be attracted to which would skew your findings.

Probably? I don’t really know. I also don’t know who the right girl would be. Even some fatties didn’t really want much to do with me. Ironically, blonde white girls have been receptive to me a little.

>Right on! That's positive action and you will see the benefit of it. Understand that it will take time and effort, though.

I’ve honestly never understood how therapy would help in the dating department. The therapist I was assigned seemed a little puzzled at first, but then I realize now that she needed to ask way more questions about why I was seeking therapy other than my shit personal life.

Kinda felt silly being there but felt kinda good afterwards? I dunno, hard to explain.

>I don't really know how else to put this […]

Oh, I see. Well, it probably isn’t me then. Recently with a coworker I’m into, I kinda approach her and that’s about it. I don’t think she ever approached me. Another coworker did, but I later found out she was with some dude. That’s usually how it happens for me. So, if previous experience is any indication... I think they’re just playing nice and I’m too stupid to notice.

>It's literally a intellectual pillow fight, start soft and ramp up until you find where their lines are. Risk isn't random bullshit it's controlled by you.It's okay to make mistakes, you just gotta take something away from when you fuck up.

Mmm, I see. That’s a funny way of putting it, but that’s also something I don’t think I’ve really been able to do. Or know how? I get the idea of what to do but idk how.

>Self-deprecation can be cute, try that when you find a qt, just like I said easy on the gas.

Ah yeah, I’ve been trying to nip that since I don’t think it’s helpful for my self esteem.

>I am going to tap a bit into my weeb side and say pain is inevitable suffering is optional. We all get fucked but it's up to you what you do with that feeling, you don't have to suffer and sit in it, you're choosing to do that.

I guess because i never had much of an alternative, the wallowing kinda seemed natural.

>What steps have you taken to change your situation in the last three months? I am curious which direction you're heading at the moment in your life.

I’ve been wanting to go out and try to cold approach but I bitch out and either stay or home or don’t talk to anyone.

Ok, gentlemen, thanks for the help. This user’s going to bed.

Alright user, peace out. Also, a bit of sarcasm is a good way to test the waters with flirting, if you ever find an opportunity to try it out.

Can a wise user help me? I’ve always been fat as a kid and yet through highschool there were a few girls interested but I didn’t pursue because of my self esteem and now I’m down to a somewhat healthy weight just a bit heavier than average (still working on it) and it seems like theres even less people interested

Tldr:
>git fit
>don't be a mouth breathing, antisocial twit
>swing at every pitch

Still tldr?:
>i am become Chad, destroyer of poon

bump

you are a wise one