I'm really not trying to b8, although it may seem that way.
Why do the left think getting rid of guns is even up for debate? It literally isn't.
I WILL NOT, and most individuals. WILL NOT under any realistic circumstance, give up our firearms.
I'm sick of hearing about it, it is not going to happen, give it a rest, go screech somewhere else
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then dont give it up
I'm just tired of hearing it.
The argument is much more stupid that flat Earth. I'm sick of being forced to even hear or read the words
I'm libertarian and I'm pro gun rights.
Although libertarians are viewed as having similar ideas as democrats or """""""liberals""""""". Libertarians believe in freedom. People have just as much of a right to bear arms as gay people have the right to marry. It's about responsibility. I'm curious to what OP thinks about all these mass shootings though?
That's not the left man, that's liberals. Any actual leftist worth their salt supports gun rights just as much as anybody on the right
so after 8 years of obama passing nothing in regards to gun control,trump.a republican,comes in the white house and before his first term is even up.he's passing gun control bills left and right
im sorry trumpshit,but your the ones who hate guns.not the left
>you dont take away cars and beer from normal people
dont worry,im sure cadet bone spurs is gonna do that next.since he already bragged about the fact he doesnt drink alcohol
It's, terrible and it's fucked up, but no law can change them. Murder is illegal. The only gun laws that should exist that don't are psychology tests and being required to have some sort of gun safe so the firearms can only be accessed by the owners, and "can't" be stolen.
No legislation can, not has ever, or ever will, stop murder. People die from drunk driving, you don't take away cars and beer from normal people.
Because they are subversive fucks.
Nobody asked if you were a libertarian
I don't support him, I think he's a jackass, the only things I think he's doing right is holding Mexico and China accountable for what they do (or don't do)
>It's about responsibility
Hit the nail right in the head, which adds in a huge load of problems.
Faggots, queers, feminazis and cucks usually don't take blame for their own bullshit.
Most liberals aren't trying to "take away your guns" that's just overreaction and hype from conservatives and conservative media. More realistically, a typical liberal wants there to be more gun control, most commonly requiring a license for a gun (like taking a class to encourage responsible gun ownership), a 6 week waiting period after getting license to receive a gun, or banning high-capacity magazines. In my personal opinion, since 2/3 of homicides are gang-related, this will most significantly cut down on the overall amount of easily available handguns on the streets reducing net crime. It will also most likely cut down on mass shootings as a method for destruction, because even if things like high capacity magazines are available on the black market they won't be nearly as readily available. I still don't see this as important as making guns less immediately available to any hooligan who wants one. Personally I also support ownership of almost all guns though for the sake of self-defense, hunting, or that chance of government oppression going awry
I mean, if the constitution somehow gets amended, you won’t have a choice. Well I suppose you would actually, give up the guns or go to jail
>I think we should ban assault weapons
Cool, what is an assault weapon?
>uhhhhhh
>I think we should ban semiautomatic guns
What makes a gun semiautomatic
>Uhhhhh
>I think we should ban automatic weapons, it's just common sense legisl-
We already do
>Oh
Conversations I've had dozens of times...
Because they're bat shit crazy
>in the shower
I'm not giving up shit bitch.
He's a Democrat bro. He's not really a republican.
It's cool if you get a real one but there's a lot rattle-trap junk around.
>Why do the left think getting rid of guns is even up for debate? It literally isn't.
It literally is.
What you are doing now is “debating”
Are all right wingers this retarded?
No, many of them are even more retarded than this
^of
Cope
So the Dems won in 2016 huh?
Kill yourself
0/10
>no law can change them..
>Europe: exists.
There isn't really a debate about banning guns wholesale. I think, generally speaking, democrats want a lot more limitations and restrictions on purchasing guns, whereas republicans argue that restrictions would infringe upon the second amendment.
But I agree with you, I'm sick of a lot of the worthless rhetoric. We're never going to ban guns in America, it's simply not realistic. But at the same time we will never allow everyone to own whatever the fuck they want.
At this point, with the mass shootings SEEMING to become more regular (spare me the argument about it please), it would just be refreshing to see the government something about it - anything at all. Instead we just debate in circles and call each other communists or nazis. No middle ground, no progress, just the same old shit every week.
This is why people don't vote.
i've always wanted one of those m1 rifles (canadafag here). i collect WW1/2 shit.
i actually hunt with an enfield rifle from 1914.
nobody has an m1 for sale around here though. i have a springfield 30-06 that i use quite often as well
Why? Because you worship obsolete hardware?
How are those acid baths, bombs and violent assaults and murders going?
It’s cute that people think they’ll have a choice of the government comes for your shit. I own and love guns, but if thatbday comes... no amount of tough guy rhetoric will save you
Stupid right winger .
“Guns” are VERBOTTEN to be discussed when trying to tackle the issue of high gun deaths and mass shootings.
Let’s blame Vidya Games instead !!!
Look right now at the amount of right wing politicians condemning violence in video games.
Seems like the 1st amendment isn’t as important a the 2nd to alt-reich faggots
sounds like you dont pay much attention. obama ordered the DHS to buy all ammo in the country to cause an indirect gun embargo.
half of mine aren't even registered. they just sit in the attic of my garage
Then you better pray 2a stands, or else prepare ye anus
Oh Yeah.
I remember that.
When Obama “bought all the ammo in the country” and there was no ammo available.
What. The retarded fuck. Are you talking about?!
years ago when i was a kid my buddy lived across the street. his father use to keep this little revolver in an ice cream bucket on the shelf in the shop. we use to call it "the bucket gun".
looking back that was so irresponsible its not even funny. we were like 12 shooting this .22 revolver in the woods (it was loaded). his father never even noticed we emptied it
He's loading the rifle incorrectly
gonna chop him right in the thumb
How do I get as high as you
>tough guy rhetoric
>It's cute that you think that
But wait there's more...
>think they'll have a choice if the government comes for your shit
>Taliban: Exists.
I love teenagers because their silly logic always outs them even though they're 100% convinced they don't sound like children. Literally fucking adorable.
It's not really you we want to take guns away from, it's the impulsive kids growing up only with other COD idiots and channers as their community, you guys make a shitty support group for unsocialized 20 year olds
Hmmm, doing a BIG think here.
Millions of Americans with guns and you think that we won't defend our rights. HMMM.
they're literally infected by the insane jew virus
>Why do the left think getting rid of guns is even up for debate? It literally isn't.
id love to see the government try to take the millions of guns floating around the general public. goooood fucking luck lol. be doing it forever. then you still have the ones that are not registered
True. Free countries with firearm histories like the US and Australia will never give up firearms.
Oh, wait...
Not banned, taxed and restricted for transfer and can't get new tax stamps for a receiver.
>There isn't really a debate about banning guns wholesale.
lots of people believe (rightly or wrongly) that liberals will take away as much as they can incrementally, background check seems basic and far from banning guns but some people see it as a slippery slope
>lots of people believe (rightly or wrongly) that liberals will take away as much as they can incrementally
Breaking News: paranoid people tend to be gun nuts and vice versa
boys this thread just caused me to go try and identify this bayonet i found down my garage awhile ago. i have this (i dont have a camera). exact same thing. had no idea it was german. its apparently for a k98
You cannot own a howitzer. You cannot own a thermonuclear device. You cannot own a fully automatic M-16. You purchase a gun until you are 14-16 (hunting rifle), 18 ("long gun"), 21 for handgun.
There are already plenty of lines established, or "slopes steepened" from past legislation, the precedents have been set, and yet there is still massive amounts of firearms in the hands of citizens.
Most of the gun control discussion are based in common sense, such as background checks, but see the problem is that even something as sensible as that IMMEDIATELY gets responded with "bu-bu-but it's a slippery slope" instead of "okay, let's talk and debate and look for a compromise".
You seem like a cool dude, but even you kneejerked without thinking.
Wow so there are 62 million republican idiots who voted for a gun grabber.
>sharpies; they go in the pooper
No he did this because he owns stock in ammo companies and he knew this would cause people to buy ammo, raising the stock price. You got played.
that may work for you. but i own firearms, im not a faggot
>Ivy league educated
>Raised and lived in New York City
>Donated massive amounts to past democratic candidates.
>Bankrupts his own businesses 6 times.
>Had successful tv show that wasn't on the Fox Network.
>Loves Israel and does anything they want.
Seriously, that guy sound like a Republican?
Well he played 60 million idiots into voting for him so yeah. 60 million people got played and it was so easy.
Yeah solid point. Who would disagree with background checks?
Sounds a little .... paranoid.
I think what actually happens is the political opponents of people who make "common sense" gun law arguments do their best to abuse the slippery slope argument tactic. And since most of the general public is made up of spoon fed retards, this works effectively enough to make everyone believe people are coming for their guns.
Any logical person knows that if that happened there would be a civil war. And that is just simply not profitable to be logic. Or logical enough to make profit. Pick your poison.
>I mean, if the constitution somehow gets amended, you won’t have a choice. Well I suppose you would actually, give up the guns or go to jail
The other choice is to die defending liberty.
Not that user but DHS put a purchase order in for 1.6 billion rounds of ammo in 2015
forbes.com
>Who would disagree with background checks?
I already have a background check every time I buy a gun.
What do you want to add to that? Checks whenever I loan my brother a gun? When I give my son one for Christmas?
Australia is a bunch of sheep fuckers used to bending over and taking in the tailpipe, read up on the compliance rates for NY and CT after bans were introduced, or how many bump stocks were turned in, fucking retard
that's not even an attack helicopter
Because its never a compromise, what do gun owners get from giving up ground, what idea was floated to make it palatable?
Here ya go faggot, they still have shootings. It literally cannot be stopped for people to get ahold of firearms
Yeah, most of us do, that's a good law.
What else? What would make sense, as in, what would be least infringing, yes prevent the least amount of morons with something to prove from having them? If you loan your brother a gun and shoots someone, is it fair to hold you accountable? If you buy your son one for Christmas, would it be just a terrible bummer if you had to register it to yourself first then have him register it to himself as a gift from you so that he is then accountable for it? I think it makes sense, but maybe some people think that is fascist, I'm not quite sure.
How many of the mass shootings occurs with guns bought in NY or CT? They likely went somewhere easier, no?
lefty here, getting rid of guns in the US isn't possible. any liberal/lefty who thinks so is an idiot.
i don't know what the solution is, but banning guns isn't it.
STFU you vegan
>Conservative media
That's a good one
>Bataclan Hall
No. Pretty sure I'd be killed in combat first
LOL
Wrong
The concept of getting rid of or outright banning firearms in the US is stupid/unrealistic.
What both sides should be aiming to do is reduce gun violence/deaths over a decades-long timeframe. Waiting periods and background checks for ammo purchases is a good step; these won't stop all deaths, but statistically, it will help reduce them.
By the Everytown standards for mass shootings, probably plenty:
wyrk.com
And how would they get us into jail?
By gun point?
There isn't a single cop or soldier I know who would side with a gun grab. We've been training. What have you been doing?
Background checks for ammo is retarded. Prosecuting people who hard fail NICS checks would be a good step.
What they mean is
MOLON LABE
III%
The day that happens is the day America dies
So we'll fight to the death.
I member.
Lol
>why duuu left think they can take part in politics
because you're a dumb worthless cunt outnumbered by many other people who don't give two shits about a smug bitch like yourself
Fuck so do I, 5.56 ammo going for a buck a round, if you could find it.
1% of the population serves in the military. Maybe 20% of them are bootlickers that would fire on US citizens to appease their masters. So you're looking at maybe half a million people willing to fight 150 million gun owners in this country.
I saw someone say the left isnt trying to take your guns and I literally watched Joe Biden say Yup we will be coming for your Assault Weapons. My nibba you are dumb dumb dumb.
The united states should just do as canada does in terms of owning a firearm. maybe not as restrictive but to just own a gun here you need a PAL (personal acquisitions licence) which does the background check. then you can go buy guns. if you want a hand gun you need to apply for the restricted licence.
you can own either, even semi-atomatic rifles just with a smaller clip/magazine.
a background check for guns makes sense, theres a lot of pieces of shit/crazy people out there
Rights are not up for political debate. I may disagree with your opinions but I would never deny you your right to speak them. That is your right. As is the 2nd amendment. You may choose to partake in it or not but you cannot attempt to deny another individual from doing so. Such sentiment goes against the principles of this country
Most of the mass shooters have been able to pass a background check, so how the fuck would that help?
its also only 60 dollars and an 11 hour course on a saturday to own a gun here. the background check isnt too crazy
>Paying money to excersize your birthrights
i dunno, you guys are the ones with all the nut bags though. we have our gang violence yes but we dont have people walking into malls and schools blowing people away
>why do the left...
Stoped reading there
>/thread & saged
Thanks for the bump
>I WILL NOT,
>and most individuals. WILL NOT
>give up our firearms
You're thinking too short term. Long term, "you" will lose your precious guns. Here's how:
>make law to stop selling bullets, guns, and gun parts in the USA
>but keep guns legal for now
>gun nuts use up their stock of bullets and throw out their guns as they break down through normal use
>15 years later pass law outlawing ownership of guns
>opponents don't put up much of a fight, since guns are now rare and bullets even rarer
>10 years after that guns are so rare you can only see them in museums
>gun-related deaths are almost 0 now
>wildlife populations return to healthy numbers since gun nuts haven't been mindlessly decimating them for decades
>USA becomes a peaceful high-trust society again
>We all live in peace and unity
The rest of us are sick of hearing you complain about what you won't do. How about offering some solutions? Or even better, offer solutions that suggest you're willing to compromise.
>yes prevent the least amount of morons with something to prove from having them?
... and how will you respond when background checks suddenly require fingerprinting ($350) and approval from your state's attorney general?
Before you say that can't happen understand that California has had concealed handgun permits for a decade and it has that kind of restriction on it. If you don't personally know the Governor your chance of getting a permit is zero.
>We only have 95% of the gun violence, you guys have all the nut bags.
I did offer solutions if you took any part in reading this I said that the only laws that should be changed are, psychological tests to purchase a gun, and mandatory that all gun owners should own a safe to help prevent any theft or use by a different individual than the owner. Both compromised, and rational arguments
>>wildlife populations return to healthy numbers since gun nuts haven't been mindlessly decimating them for decades
Idiot. Look up what happens to deer populations when humans stop hunting them.
They have no other natural predators left. They breed like rabbits and then they starve.
Actually you can own a howitzer. And a tank. Lots of people do.
Good luck finding ammo for them though.
It's not humans' concern to do nature's job.
He's a genuine fucking retard.
When the deer population was lowered in Yellowstone national Park by introducing wolves it snowball affected all the way to the point of rivers changing their course.
You can definitely tell the people who grow up in the city, vs actually taking part in the world
Honestly, it's a non-issue. All of maybe 200 people die in "mass shootings" (as in more than 4 people wounded/killed in one event) in this country every year (that includes gang related mass shootings). In a nation of some 360,000,000 people, that's hardly anything to lose sleep over. I'm way more concerned about the dumb bitch driving with her face in her phone spontaneously merging 5 lanes killing me every morning than some guy shooting me at the mall.
Are you a fucking retard? Humans are absolutely a part of nature.
unless you're one of those religious fucking morons that thinks we're different even though we eat breathe piss bleed drink and do everything the same way that every other animal does.
we have quite a bit of gun violence in canada. walking into a school, shopping mall, (hell you pretty much covered all the major public places at this point) and gunning down random people is a whole different story.
>It's not humans' concern to do nature's job
You say that, and then bitch when you plow through one at 80 on the highway.
We've removed ourselves from nature when we created agricultural society, and even more so when we created industrial society. Only primitive cultures can truly be said to be at one with nature.
I have actually had this conversation too.
>take away guns, they stab each other
>take away knives, they beat each other with bats
>take away bats, they beat each other eith rocks
>take away rocks, ????
It seems like an uphill battle trying to stop retards from killing each other. England took away guns, now they have a "knife problem" where they go as far as taking peoples' butter knives, and you need an ID to buy silverware. Once they take away knives, the idiots will find another way to hurt/kill each other. The issue lies much deeper than in the weapons, it's in the people who use them. So how about dedicating some time and money to researching the inspiration or motivation behind the killings and working on that remedy? Everyone wants immediate results but doesn't want to address the issue. Are amphetimines causing ill reactions with some users? Are these mass shooters and street thugs inspired by the 4chin and rap music? I give credit to the 9/11 hijackers for being pretty original, and the Walmart shooter too. Shoutout to Columbine for being the first widely noticed school shooting. All of those people are just sick and would have found a way to do it no matter what was banned. These other retards like the dude who shot up the walmart a day later just saw the attention the news gave to the killer and wanted some of the action. Same with Adam Lanza and all the others post-Columbine.
...
Plot twist: I don't own a car. Nor do I ever intend to. What now?
while I understand what you mean it's been proven countless times that there are other methods to achieve the same result. Whether it be by improvised explosive devices, some sort of edged weapon, vehicles etc it just happens to be easiest with guns.
I understand people think America is crazy but there's a reason why America has never been victim of a genocide (since the natives were killed) as compared to the numerous genocides that have happened in the last century on every other continent on the planet.
although it's very obvious that guns are the easiest means to kill somebody it doesn't prevent mass killings and anyway it just makes them harder to achieve, and at the expense of making an entire population completely defenseless.
look at what happened to Bosnia because Croatia/Serbia had weapons in Bosnia didn't that was 25 years ago, they marched into Bosnia and did whatever the fuck they want to do with absolutely no hesitation and nothing to slow them down.
its still messed up, how would you like to be chillin in the theatre watching a movie to have some clown run in and start sprayin bullets all over the place
In a lot of ways it isn't, a person with the urge to kill lashes out at those they perceive as enemies or kill those they think will hurt their enemies the most (sandy hook/society in general as enemy)
Poor guy, plot twist It's your mom and she dies in the wreck. Now you have to move out of her basement, NEET.
i couldnt agree more honestly. it'll just be something else if not guns. you could do a lot of damage in a tight crown with a beer bottle, gas and a rag
>Take away rocks, they use their fists
Answer is simple! Chop off all fists!
I pull out the gun I carry illegally in the theater and shoot him.
.. and yes, I'm carrying a gun every time I go to the movies.
>Whether it be by improvised explosive devices, some sort of edged weapon, vehicles etc it just happens to be easiest with guns.
In the 70s we had more than one bombing per day for a couple of years running. (in the US)
Sage still works newfag
It would be pretty awful. But it's also happened like 4 times ever. There's been dozens of horrific plane crashes and even disappearances but that still doesn't make me hesitant to get on a flight because that's such an anomaly that it's not even worth stressing over.
good
I'm not sure how I would respond to a hypothetical scenario in a hypothetical scenario, so I honestly can't say. But it sounds like that proposal puts you on the defensive, so perhaps that wont work.
I'll ask you once more, what WOULD be logical? Or do you think we should just keep things the way they are? If you want to shoot down my arguments, at least make one of your own.
Because (((they))) HATE white people and want you DEAD. As easy as that. What happens after guns are banned? They outlaw self-defense. While simultaneously importing gorillions of violent third-worlders. What heppens when you speak against this invasion? You get arrested for "hate speech"
Sounds like Scandinavia and Canada currently, I used to have a lot of respect for those countries, fucking likes now
>Why do the left think getting rid of guns is even up for debate?
Because narcissists are tenacious. They tend to have lower IQs and no sense of self awareness too, so that makes it easier for them to just blatantly lie nonstop and not feel bad about it. They also love hurting people. A certain tribe basically has a copyright on narcissism and other personality and mental disorders. Those people run the media, education, entertainment, so on. They will never stop until they destroy the world. They literally cannot stop. The only solution is to cleanse this certain tribe from the Earth.
It just actually sucks to live in a society, the richest one at that, and have to think about that .
>Drug lords smuggle billions worth of narcotics across the border every year
>Thinks they can't throw a couple truckloads of ammo in to meet demand
Also, reloading is a thing. Ive got .303 Enfield casings from WWI that I reload and shoot. Brass lasts forever
See. It's not the weapons.
It's the generation. Here's your participation trophy
I turned in all my guns after sandy hook no ones shot me or robbed me ever. At this point I think its time for America to grow up this isn't the wild west anymore times have changed and common since gun laws are coming.
Kikes, oops
Josh, Honey.
Your Ramens ready
I agree with you in the sense that you shouldn't be brandished and open in the public in a constant nature like they are, but it's been proven time and time again and South America Africa the middle east Europe and Asia what happens when you leave yourself defenseless. (Genocide)
stopping retards from getting access to guns and preventing people who become retards from using guns is a much better argument than banning guns and I'm surprised rightards don't discuss that, because it will at least look like they care about making sure civilians don't get gunned down in public vs wanting to own pew pew devices
>gay people have the right to marry.
Neck your self lib cuck.
Why do you guys even do this
t. Gay club shooter
>Brass lasts forever
No. It does get too thin after a while. I have reloaded my Lahti 20mm rounds so many times that the brass is cracking. It's cheaper for me to have new deep draw brass dies made or machine my own brass than buy new ammo at fucking $75 per round.
America
>anything is possible!
Also America
>me changing even slightly is impossible
When did the dream die user?
Stopping retards from doing anything would actually fix a solid 68% of the worlds problems, but that will never happen because that's racist.
Because we're bored as fuck and for some reason we think we can have intelligent and problem solving discussion on an anonymous image board. In all honesty anyone who responds to a political thread is using it to vent their opinion, no one is going to be convinced because you can't be held accountable when anonymous.
I mean, seriously, you exist? It's almost comical.
Lies.
But you’re a retarded faggot so I’ll allow it
When you decided to take away somebody's most basic naturally or god-given right away from them. you cannot ever tell somebody they don't have the right to defend themselves I don't know what you don't understand fucking actual moron
I read that ciolent crime statistics in the US, adjusted per capita by race, put the US on par with other countries.
If that's true it could be literally the one-and-only thing that could turn me into a racist.
gays should be exterminated
I don't know your definition of "retard" but I mean anyone mentally incapable of owning a death device. If that means a specific race to you then I think you're lost.
I wouldn't say it sucks.
What sucks is these killing spree moonbats and addicts of all type wouldn't be doing that harmful shit if they felt ok about life.
They planted desperation and harvest a squadron. Then they wonder why the classroom was littered with bodies. From colombine to Palatine the children are the killers. Adopted by monsters and stripped of all feelings.
t. Okay buddy, you make a compelling argument for guns here.
It literally is true. Why is africa and south america is so violent? Do you think it's the weather?
Only a retard would want a gun. Problem solved.
No, they don’t seriously exist.
The extremist opinions posted on Yea Forums are 14 yo edgelord attempts at trolling, each faggot cunt reaching to be more extreme than the previous is a desperate attempt to impress/bond , because they lack the social and communal infrastructure of friends/family that normal people take for granted.
It’s how the tragic lost incels end up being radicalised by sites like these
Death by unga-bunga
So stop picking on the disabled you bigot
sweeet. also somewhat of an exception.
You're right, I meant moreso in the sense that it doesn't corrode away very easily. I've picked up shell casings off old military firing ranges in the desert that you could run through a tumbler and use after 50 years of being out in the elements.
okay retard
It’s not true you fucking moron.
Violent crime is on a downward trend during the same period multi-culturalism and diversity is up.
Think. McCoy. Think
Isn't a German Shepard's IQ around 65 lol
Gun control should go something like this
“Do you want a gun”
If “Yes” - you are banned from owning a gun.
Only a retard would entrust his family's lives to someone else that has no legal obligation to protect him
IQ tests are done by age range.
There is no age range on that chart.
It’s a fake chart.
You have failed the IQ test
kek, yup
Voting should go.
How much do you pay in taxes. Ok your opinion almost matters. Pay as much as I do and it will
Oh okay, facts are wrong. Please stand in front of a train moving above 80kph
I'm just glad we live in a society that bans everyone but the most hyper qualified from making cite-less graphs.
i have one right here actually. from the 2nd world war, never fired. i have 2 boxes. they were my grandfathers from the war. i have an enfiled rifle as well.
>I'll ask you once more, what WOULD be logical? Or do you think we should just keep things the way they are? If you want to shoot down my arguments, at least make one of your own.
* Carve a HIPPA exception for mental health reporting
* Block all federal mental health spending for states that don't report to NICs
* Nationwide concealed carry program with training, background checks, and annual/bi/tri recertification at reasonable cost
* Build more smaller high schools. Above a population of 600 students are harmed, not helped, by economies of scale.
* Stop telling kids the world is fucking hopeless. Climate change, automation, and Donald Trump are going to change the world, not extinguish it.
* Create a process for gun rights to be restored after you've had mental health treatment and been free for X amount of time.
* Create a safe harbor program so you can voluntarily surrender guns to police with a guarantee of getting them back in the future.
* Make divorce much simpler, removing the rage-inducing lawyers and court processes.
* Bring back long term commitment as a mental health treatment option.
I have more....
oops forgot pic
ucr.fbi.gov
kys u lying jew
provide your data then
You entrust your families lives to politicians who you trust will pay the soldiers who you trust will do their duty and protect the country.
The entire system is based on trusts
You, not trusting them, are the weak link in the chain
From your cold dead hands right? Cool. I’m good with that.
What about the fundamental right to life and the pursuit of happiness. Why should I have to train my 10 year old to shoot and conceal carry in school like some kind of glow nigger just because you have a small dick and need 100 guns? People should be able to send their kids to school and know they are safe. Both fagots on both sides just keep sucking down each others cum and never get anywhere.
Accurate, but even that just bums me out.
I mean, if you can't find friends on Yea Forums, you're pretty fucked.
>facts are wrong
Prove they are facts, retard
Please do. All of you fags need to go
>sweeet. also somewhat of an exception.
I KNOW, RIGHT!!! My grandpa left it to me. He ordered it via MAIL ORDER after the great war.
>provide your data then
What data?
You expect me to provide an alternative fake chart to counter your demonstrably fake chart?
No faggot.
Develop your own critical thinking skills, apply logical cynicism to everything.
And also, learn what an IQ test is, how they are administered, and what the results mean....before attempting to use ‘IQ test results” to prove anything.
>He ordered it via MAIL ORDER after the great war.
... out of the back of a magazine. Those were the days.
From the Russians. The National Guard isnt going to get called out to a break in though. The average police response time is 4 mins Nationwide. In big cities, it can be much longer. Can you imagine waiting 45 mins for the police to show up while someone is trying to kick down your door? The people of Detroit go through it every day.
God I hope you try that and catch a bullet to the brain pan.
>Although libertarians are viewed as having similar ideas as democrats or...
Well, that's complete bullshit, as libertarian faggots always vote republican. You're the opposite of "Rino's" as you vote republican but take no responsibility for your shitty decisions.
How many people died in
>Ww2
>Armenia
>China
>North Korea
>Congo
>Cambodia
>Burma
>Rwanda
>Somalia
>Bosnia
>Palestine
Etc
You are a plum if I've ever seen one
Yes this happens literally every night here. Retard
Not stupid; evil.
See:
Ah well.
You should just give up then, shouldn’t you.
It’s too difficult and would require effort to fix.
May as well just give up rather than try to make anything better.
When did America become this cucked?
This isn’t the place I grew up in, or the attitude I was taught.
I don't know where you got those statistics from large cities usually have fastest response times. I live in the fourth largest city in Pennsylvania and the seller would be a ranked around 10th largest if it were counted as a city rather than a township, there are many instances where response times are above 15 minutes and that's in the region of the fourth most populous area in the entire State that's larger than many countries on the planet.
>Ww2
When was there genocide in WW2?
Spot the Jew
okay I just gave you an enormous list with an etc at the end of it to imply that it was nowhere near done of how many people died because of a genocide that there were absolutely helpless to defend himself against. CUCK
>Lives in constant imminent danger
>Omg why would anyone want a gun???
We need a formed resolution all world Gov will totally all out ban every form of killing weapon. A treaty will be signed no Gov or Police force or anyone will be aloud to use deadly force. Everyone will be issues a big rubber nigger knocker to beat each other with.
Ask yourself , you absolute retard,
What did the perpetrators of the genocide use to enact their genocide?
Their bare hands?
Suburb, in response times of course being in that suburb I should have mentioned that
How many Jews, how many gays, how many Russians, how many Chinese, how many Filipinos, do you know nothing about history at all?
Kek.
When alt-reich retardation back fires
In my eyes, marriage isn't a right. It is a religious practice that the government took over. The fact that marriage is governed is a failure of the separation of church and state.
>Why did the government take over marriage?
Children raised by their biological parents on average score better in every test you can preform. This isn't a secret. Giving tax benefits for married couples was like an investment into the country's future as it would produce better, smarter children.
>Tax benefits
The sole reason gays want marriage equality despite not being able to give the country what it is investing in: a child raised by their biological mother and father in the same household.
>The solution?
The government no longer recognizes marriage. No tax breaks for couples. They stay the fuck out of it and let private entities carry on whatever traditions they want, so long as they don't cause bodily harm to another human. This way, gays would get their "equality" since there will still be churches willing to hold their ceremonies. And if they're not religious, then they don't have to feel pressured to get married since there's no financial incentive for doing so anymore.
Whatever the fuck they wanted because they were criminals and warrant slowdown by any laws.
I swear you're putting an effort to sound as fucking stupid as you are currently.
Let's not forget the countless numbers of genocides that happened before gunpowder existed by whatever means possible.
>Not being able to afford spending 60 dollars
ISHYGDDT
Part of the problem with mass shootings is the constant and lengthy exposure they get from the media to the point that you can't go anywhere without hearing about it and it being a conversation topic for a week. Other deaths like gang violence and suicides get nowhere near the attention that the typical mass shooting does, even though mass shootings make up the lowest number of firearms homicides. News reportings of mass shootings have basically turned into a drama where everyone has experts that try to go inside the shooters' heads and figure out why they did it. There is also the political exploitation of these events where politicians call for the banning of assault weapons, one of the least used types of firearms in homicides. The general public's inexperience with firearms leads to the view that "assault weapons" are some of the most destructive devices to ever have been created. This media also affects other mass shooters' choice of weaponry, thinking that an AR15 is the best they can get if they are to lash out. The unspoken reality is that firearms are much more often used in defense rather than as offense as found by the CDC. The defensive use of firearms is almost unheard of in most media as it doesn't create the hot topic that everyone is dying/wants to hear. If we focused more on the defensive use of firearms and stories where they stopped crime, it could inspire the average citizen to change their view on firearms and deter potential shooters if the amount of would be assailants dying far exceeds the amount of victims they could maim/kill, making mass shootings a pointless endeavor.
The link to the CDC report can be found here.
lawenforcementtoday.com
Just scroll through the article and find the link.
Are you saying all of those were an unarmed populace?
Faggot, do your research before attempting to convince others, or you’ll look like a total retard....like right now
Do YOU know anything about history?
Weren't*, I used talk to text
almost all of them were unarmed some of them were even primitive like in the Philippine islands the only people who are were the Russians but I used them as an example that nobody is untouchable and that everybody should be defending themselves, or at least have the ability to do so
Bro I was agreeing with you, and just trying to let you know the guy you are arguing with is evil, not retarded.
Who the fuck loads a Garand clip with his left thumb???
>because they were criminals
Or ruling parties.
Are you seriously using every example of a people’s being eradicated by another people’s as a reason you should hold onto your gun?
I’m beginning to suspect you don’t even know what a genocide is.
>so long as they don't cause bodily harm to another human.
Homosexuality and transgenderism is a moral corruption that strikes at the heart of every American your children are forced to watch vile and sickening behavior, you as a parent are forced to accept it and tell your children its ok. Its not ok its immoral its illegal and its wrong. This country used to be a nation of laws before Obamabo destroyed it.
that's more than reasonable example because it gives valid proof that you need to have adequate means to defend yourself against any adversary possible. The likelihood of a robbery killing a million people isn't very high so I use a much more exaggerative example because much more people were impacted by the results
And who's gonna do that? Cus I sure as shit know you don't have to balls to throw a punch irl much less start gunning down queers.
>almost all of them were unarmed
I mean, you’re just spouting any old fucking nonsense now.
Remember a few years ago (during Obama) when you flat ass couldn't buy .22 shells, or most common hunting ammo for that matter? That's what user is talking about
It's just a position of the left because it resonates with peoples emotions. Like trump blaming video games, it's stupid but it will win him stupid peoples votes.
>I use much more exaggerative example
Because you cant prove your own argument without hyperbole, exaggeration , fabrication, and outright lies
How many Jews in Europe do you think we're armed during the second world war?
How many Chinese in Filipinos to think we're armed especially during the Mao era?
Do you think there was an army of gay people marching around the firearms in Europe in the 1920s?
Is that a challenge?
No.
It didn’t happen
>Implying Obama was the start
Prove that homosexuality is a "moral corruption", I'll compromise with you by agreeing that trannies are mentally ill and shouldn't be normalized the way they are currently.
You could always buy it just not in bulk. That was when Obama shipped all our ammo to ISIS.
>implying Jews were the victims of genocide
Spot the Jew
Nice catch
>God I hope you try that and catch a bullet to the brain pan.
The rule is that if you shit on the idea you have to propose a better one. What's your idea?
What single example is an outright lie?
I need to be able to text myself from a burglar.
I need to protect myself for multiple adversaries.
I need to be able to protect myself from wildlife that can harm me. (Bear, wolf, alligator etc)
I need to be able to protect myself from the possibility of a tyrannical government.
I need to be able to protect myself from the possibility of a foreign invasion.
I need to be able to protect myself from the possibility of a genocide.
Just because you're dodging clearly evident facts, just to try to make me look stupid doesn't mean that you're correct you're very plainly wrong
Sodomy is illegal. Normalizing breaking the law is normalizing immoral behavior and lawlessness. Why should I fallow the law when no one else does ect. Ramble Ramble Ramble Skittle Nigger if I had a Son he'd be just Like Skittle Nigger.
Got proof they were unarmed?
Or are you just guessing ?
When were they disarmed?
Were they unarmed to begin with?
I bet you haven’t even asked yourself these basic fundamental qualifying questions.
Because you’re a retard
>clearly evident facts,
>provides no facts
Evidently
Same thing I do every time a mass shooting happens, buy a new AR-15 and thoughts and prayers.
Actually, you can buy a howitzer on the interwebs milweb.net
Jewish people are more than likely never armed or sparsely like most of Europe where there wasn't enough to actually make any difference.
gace probably fit in like any other people some of them had guns some of them didn't be in Europe was probably a very small percent.
the Chinese people were disarmed as soon as the Communists took power and Mao became the leader.
the Filipinos are more than likely never armed because they're still super primitive let alone - almost a hundred years
$60 is peanuts but the notion of it is what doesn't sit well with me. That's like throwing a microtransaction on your civil rights.
I'm willing to hear more, because I like a lot of it and can agree to some extents more than others. Building more schools is much easier said than done, for instance, especially in densely populated areas. This would probably require much higher taxes to construct and staff so many more facilities. But I think your idea about not telling kids the world is ending is brilliant, because a lot of violence is the result of people feeling like shit about the world and it most definitely starts at an early age. Thanks user.
No, it's just a factual statement. It would be a challenge if I viewed you as anything more than a feckless coward with a big mouth.
>more than likely
>probably
>I’m guessing
>maybe they
Proof faggot.
Do you have any?
Genocides happen, gangs exist, animals exist, foreign invasions happen..... You should put more effort into something stupid because it definitely seems like you're doing it for the memes. there are endless examples of why people should be harmed and you're trying to deny every single one of them.
>>We all live in peace and unity
with a permanent rainbow overhead and unicorns frolicking about
"Holohoax" retards like you ignore the millions of people killed in the Holocaust that were not Jews in order to prop up these batshit insane theories.
They don't want to get rid of guns, user. You're cherry picking the opinions of a few. They want better gun control. They want it to be harder to access which will screen out a lot of crazies.
I'm Canadian (and liberal). I grew up with a gun in my house. It's easy for me to get a gun if I wanted one.
But it's slightly harder here. The screening process is slightly more vigarous and storage and transport laws are slightly tighter.
And that's all it takes to not have a nightmare amount of shootings.
Our government sometimes tries to pass gun registries and it's met with fierce bi partisan resistance among voters because it's dumb and we don't have a problem.
The Democrats are very clear. They don't want a gun ban. They want better gun control. It just filters to you as "hurr no more guns".
Do you live under a rock? Or are you literally twelve?
So you have no proof? Ok thanks for the enthralling discussion friend.
>there are endless examples of why people should be (h)armed
And there are equally as many examples of countries where the local police/military/rangers provide adequate protection from those things.
What you are saying is that America CAN’T provide those protections and people need to go vigilante.
America - land of the CAN’T
I agree, just fucking with you user.
>muh 6mullion - a Jew told me so
Prove it
Impressive typing skills for someone who like dick in their ass.
I would say more but I won't self-incriminate ;)
Chinese gun confiscation in 1935 (the true start of ww1
Gay gun ownership is absolutely not a stat that can be tracked.
Jewish gun ownership is also the same because religion.
guns have been virtually non-existent in the Philippines comparativly speaking in their entire history, they were very very primitive before the Japanese showed up and they were under ruthless control until the Americans showed up, and now they dislike firearms
Try again
To what ends the psychological reinforcing of defensive gun violence would have in deterring mass shootings is difficult to predict, but you make great points with valuable input. I agree, the attention these things soak up is infuriating, and whats more obnoxious is how much everyone eats this up. The news is essentially reality TV and America can't get enough of the garbage. To quote an honorable man, "Peace sells, but who's buying?"
>I'm willing to hear more, because I like a lot of it and can agree to some extents more than others.
The really tough nut to crack is urban gang violence. I've spent a huge amount of time trying to figure out a solution for that and still haven't figured it out. The top line solution is dead simple, living wage low skill jobs with health insurance. The details of implementing it are devilishly hard.
The average gang member makes less than minimum wage. Even selling drugs, it's less than $7 bucks an hour... There are some thugs that won't work an honest job, but a huge amount of violence can be prevented with jobs and a steady paycheck.
Every since the but fucking has been normalized in Porn and in the US the moral compass of the US has been spinning out of control. It needs to be stopped. A nation must protect its younger generation form such corruption. Kids younger and younger are being exposed to this vile poison it rots their brains and destroys their souls.
America the land of having not been a victim of a genocide or invasion since the last time there was a genocide here because the native Americans were unarmed compared to the white Invaders.
America also being one of the largest and most populous countries on the entire fucking planet would need more police than most countries on the planet have citizenship.
and I also think it's cute you're implying that we would want to live under complete governmental or policing control like some kind of boot-licking fucking pussy faggots.
>no u
Solid argument you got there.
Do you know what things that are real have?
Evidence.
They leave tell tale signs known as “evidence” that inevitably prove something to be true.
Less of your fee fees princess , more hard evidence
Ww2***, major fuck up on my part
>They don't want to get rid of guns, user. You're cherry picking the opinions of a few.
The few they are cherry picking are literally Dianne Feinstein Senate Majority Leader and Joe Biden former Vice president and Presidential candidate.
That's not exactly nobody.
>I'm Canadian (and liberal). I grew up with a gun in my house. It's easy for me to get a gun if I wanted one.
If you used your gun in self defense you would be in violation of Canadian law, disarmed, and imprisoned.
Don't sugar coat it, user.
Kek
>America , the land of never having a genocide or invasion since the last time we had a genocide or invasion
Ermmmm.
That is literally true for every single nation who is not currently being invaded or undergoing a genocide.
What if they use gas to wipe you out?
You gonna shoot the gas?
I agree, I really wish gang activities and eventually violence wouldn't be a lfiestyle for some kids and adults. It hurts to imagine that some poor kid is essentially indoctrinated into one of the shittiest lifestyles because they can't figure out and pursue a proper way out (of their current situation, not talking about suicide)
Gas 10 million sqkm okay fag
now you're just trying to cherry-pick because you're such a fucking pussy that you can't even stand up to the fact that you need to protect yourself because other people won't do it for you.
I specifically mentioned the victims that were not Jews, so I'm not gonna try to prove whether or not the Jews were killed in the Holocaust. Show me some proof that NON-JEWISH (I capitalized it for you so you wouldn't miss it this time) were not murdered during the Holocaust.
Eh, I don't really care, although it may seem that way, all of you can keep killing each other why enjoying your rights, meanwhile the timer resets until the next mass shooting.
Let me also remind you that the native genocide was because the natives didn't have guns and couldn't fight back to the same capacity as they were being attacked, which is why we aren't using muskets while the military uses rifles.
>What if they use gas to wipe you out?
This.
2A faggots have a very very specific invasion/genocide scenario fixed in their heads - and by God are they prepared for it.
Literally any other plan, they are fucked.
But hey, at least they get to cradle their gun as they die....shame about all the mass shootings though
i can't wait for the strongest, most overfunded army on the planet to fuck you in the ass
and dont give me that 'soldiers are our friends' shit, they will drop you the minute they get told to.
I’ve been voting and volunteering for leaders/candidates who aren’t trying to trick my dumb gun-loving ass into giving everything else away for a single issue. They’ve got you dummies so hopped up on anger and fear that you’ll let them do anything they want so long as you think you’re protecting your “freedom.” Also, same thing with immigration. There’s no fucking crisis there either.
>show me non-proof that not-Jews wew not-genocided
I don’t think you know what proof is
again how does taking away guns and mass murder because that's never been a thing in history of humankind to have mass murder not exist.
also unless we're talking about nuclear apocalypse it's virtually impossible to even pretend to take out the American populace without guns
Yes, that's tough but I think the same way about the solution. I've always thought that mandatory civil service for every citizen with a social security number would be a good idea. It could be state run, and you can choose to go to another state to do the service, or choose to defer to military service of any branch. 12- 16 months, to be completed after high school. Completion would merit many perks like free education, healthcare, and access to government jobs that pay above poverty line. People say that's unamerican, but we already require parents to send their children to school, we already require 18 year old males to sign the draft, hell we've done a draft for every major war in our history. I don't see the issue.
>i can't wait for the strongest, most overfunded army on the planet to fuck you in the ass
> Quagmired by sandal wearing insurgents in every major conflict since Vietnam
> This time will be different....
almost entirely evidently falls whether or not it helps us or harms us most Americans are pretty against being told what to do directly, go kill your innocent neighbors who haven't done anything wrong good luck that happening.
sure it happened in other countries but that's because we're brainwashed to think Iraq perpetrated 911 what have the average American gun owners done to perpetrate anything that would warrant genocide of its own people, by its own people
>nuclear
Americans are more likely to be wiped out by their own nukes in an accident of incompetence
woops meant this to be to you
When people ask for more background checks what does that even mean? There are already background checks that determine if you are a criminal or mentally ill. What the hell else is there to check?
That's how I know you're a little bitch, you have to resort to passive aggressiveness when confronted on your bullshit. How could you possibly self incriminate on an anonymous imageboard? I'll say it again, you won't do anything but wait for Mommy to bring you some tendies
Kek
I'm hearing opinions, I asked for facts.
You totally can use lethal force by any means if your life is threatened, here. There are cases of people being arrested and charged following this, but it's due process. Charges are dropped easily.
Our law is very clear on this. Even in the use of a firearm.
That's a lousy attempt at avoiding the question, I've seen plenty of "proof" that no Jews were killed, so where's the proof that the non-jewish victims of the Holocaust were not murdered?
You do realize that even when people are cleared by the police, they still get the shit sued out of them by the family? You may not go to jail but you'll never see another dollar you earn ever again.
If I wasn't a phoneposter with a piece of shit phone I would gladly direct you to a source, but whether or not Obama directly "bought all the bullets" or not is arbitrary, the fact is, is that from 2009-2013 there was a severe shortage of hunting ammo in a wide range of calibers so feel free to spoon-feed yourself with that information anytime user
I'm left leaning ex army. I have never advocated for taking away guns. I always fight against it. I am OK with a few more strict policies on licensing and ownership. Mostly, the no background check at gun swaps seem like a weak point. Maybe better background checks to include mental health instead of just criminal. Just sayin, keep the guns, I'm on the left and I got your back on this one. Don't lump us all into one group of gun hating twats.
>How could you possibly self incriminate on an anonymous imageboard?
>What are IP logs
>What are court orrders / warrants
>What is a credible threat of violence
Retard.
You don't have a case if your family member was killed trying to kill someone else. Which of your assholes did you pull that out of?
There is currently a gap in background checks that you can buy or borrow a gun from an /individual/ in your home state without a background check IFF you are not a disqualified person.
The idea is to close that gap, but if it's done wrong then you'll lose the ability to pass them to your kids, family, etc. without having to go to a gun store, pay for a transfer, fill out the forms, wait for them to come back, and then complete the transfer. That would be a huge pain in the ass.
Gun nuts, myself included, think that legislators want this process to be very difficult because it discourages legal gun ownership.
Criminals give two shits about rules like this, so it doesn't effect them.
Your main argument for “we need our guns to protect ourselves from a future government that will genocide us!” falls down if you just use even a slight bit of brain power.
If, IF, the ruling government wishes to exterminate you, they could do so- by many many means. Starvation/Agent Orange tactics, poisoning the water supply, gassing major population centers - and because they’re the ruling government in charge, you wouldn’t even know it was happening until it’s too late. And that’s me just spit balling - not actually using tacticians to formulate a beat strategy.
How does your gun ensure that this scenario doesn’t happen to you?
Oh, it doesn’t.
Oops - all those mass shootings so you could hug a gun were for nothing
Lookup wrongful death cases. Even if there is no case to stand on it can cost at LEAST tens of thousands of dollars to hire a lawyer to get in front of a judge.
Every living person on earth is evidence that non-Jewish people were not murdered , you fucking retard.
What are you even asking??
Kek
>I have the evidence, I ermm, just can’t give you it right now. Just google it
Your a retard
Just google it
NY fag here.
when the safe act was pushed through without any Senators even reading it at 1 a.m. by Cuomo. Nothing changed for most of us. Some people left but others like me stayed. I myself and many I know did nothing we didn't register we didn't get rid of our "assault rifles" hell I even bought three more since that shity bill passed in their purest form. I have a safe full of illegal 30 round magazines 4 AR-15s, 2 AKs 3 M1a M14s , and a P90.
What, so adding that one piece of legislation is going to stop any shootings at all? Bullshit, background checks don't do shit.
Can you eat them?
And some shops don't do it, and it's not enforced enough to discourage them from doing it.
>You don't have a case if your family member was killed trying to kill someone else
Nice trips... Trayvon Martin's family settled their wrongful death lawsuit for "an undisclosed sum".
As a CCW permit holder I just kind of accept the fact that if I shoot someone I'm going to be in jail or the poorhouse until I die, even if the shoot is completely justified.
It's part of the responsibility.
I agree that it is difficult to predict what effect defensive gun use exposure would have on mass shootings but it would be worth it to try to change public opinion to see guns not as mass killing machines but as a viable means of protection. It's impossible and illogical to rely on the police to protect you from a home invasion and I am of the belief that you and you alone are ultimately responsible for your own safety. Too much attention, time, and energy is spent on mass shootings and arguing over perceptions that people have of firearms when they are ignorant to their much more common beneficial usage. It's almost impossible to find stories of defensive gun use on a national news level and most local cases are aired and forgotten in a matter of days and quickly overtaken in popularity by a mass shooting. It's ridiculous and frankly, people need to see that it is the person that commits evil, not the firearm.
>If you can't spoon-feed me information then it doesn't exist
Imagine being this young
You’re right.
It’s too hard.
It’s too difficult
It would take a lot of effort to make things better.
We should just give up. And be happy with our shitty lot and not even attempt to improve things.
That’s the American way
>I can prove it
>I just don’t wanna
You’re a retard.
Just google it
>so adding that one piece of legislation is going to stop any shootings at all? Bullshit, background checks don't do shit.
I agree. It will do fuck all for crime, and make it harder to be a legal gun owner. That's why we're pushing back on it.
>weather?
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Yea america is too far gone at this point just nuke it
You sound like a cool guy who should move to Pennsylvania, we're not a single one of those things would be questioned or even have the ability to be questioned because there's no proof needed to know in any of them.
no
Yup.
It’s too hard.
We should just give up.
Making things better is impossible, so
Why even try?
You should meet me in any public area and sell me the p90 since I'm allowed to buy it that way, it'll give me a cool gun that I'm legally allowed to own and take a little bit of repercussion off of your shoulders if you're found
How in the literal fuck is an absolute non fact like the earth being flat anything close in comparison to the idea of the second amendment needing changing.
Do you not understand the fucking definition of an amendment?
Pretty useless then, aren’t they
>Not using a VPN when browsing Yea Forums
>Or even just in general
I think you're the retard here, and also bluffing hardcore.
I could prove it, if I could copy a fucking url, but this piece of trash is just not having it. Wikipedia has a nice watered down version that's easy to read for you, (I think it might even have a picture or two) but it was a well documented, very real thing that happened user, and if you were old enough to have owned guns during that time you would remember it
>I can prove it honest
>I just can’t prove it right now
You’re a retard
Just google it
As others have said, you can buy howitzers. Nukes are a hard no obviously, countries have issues with getting them. And you can buy a full auto M-16 if you have the money for one. I think they're going for something close to 30K these days.
A note of interest, Only 3 times have legally owned class 3 NFA weapons (Full autos) been used to commit murder. (This maybe completely wrong, I'm drunk and pulling up something I read years ago, it may also be out of date)
I think the main issue really comes down to the most used murder weapons are pistols and while we've moved it back to 21 and some states have cool down times (Texas does not and that blew my mind when the dude was like "Okay, enjoy your new pistol and have a great day") it still doesn't seem to curb the lunatics and neither side would hope to bring up banning pistols to the country (America anywho) so why bother with banning of accessories? It looks different sure but it still shoots the same in MOST cases. I am no lover of the bump stocks but the knee-jerk reaction bill was worded so poorly a stock trigger replacement could be seen as a felony nearly (I think there was wording of stock parts being okay, but I wouldn't doubt Cali trying to capitalize on it and say nope new trigger makes it fire faster!)
End all be all, left is trying to do death by a thousand cuts for some unknown reason and the right is saying fuck you. We won't have an ending to the debate because neither side will come to the table. A lunatics will keep killing folk because they're fucked in the head.
Pic related is the right's thought process in most cases.
Also, to drunk to proof read this shit so dismiss as you see fit
I plan on buying at least 4 acres in Pennsylvania. I love Pennsylvania I'm just trying to figure out how to make as much money as I do here in Jew York. I will see you in time brother.
>Yup.
>It’s too hard.
>We should just give up.
>Making things better is impossible, so
>Why even try?
There are things we could do, but it isn't sexy like banning scary dangerous fully semiautomatic assault things that go up.
example given
I love how this post is so conveniently ignored by burgers
Because how it's literally not even up for debate that the Earth isn't flat, it's literally not even up for debate that we're going to turn in our firearms and or limit gun capacities to four rounds.
Completely and totally not going to ever happen