Be me

You will never pass. Stop trying to transition and learn to defeat your body dysmorphia.

Please watch the following videos with an open mind from people that have gone through what you're going through -

He used to be trans -
youtube.com/watch?v=qlRkLtKqSrY

Mental Illness is not a civil right -
youtube.com/watch?v=s57T27M1ZXk

You have a problem. Please seek help from people who DON'T want to affirm your mental illness and actually care about your healing.

Visit

Glad to know you know what's best for a random person on the internet you've never met

why is karen gonna punch the kids? what kinda blackmail is that? stop playing vidya or i'll kill the kids

Chopping off your genitals and pumping yourself full of opposite-sex hormones is disastrous for anyone. If this kid truly is 17, they're only going to ruin their future by making irreversible medical choices this early in their life.

First of all, the chopping off your dick meme needs to die. SRS is not a mandatory step in the process of being trans, there are plenty of women with dicks, some by choice.
Let them figure out their own life. If they're on Yea Forums they've probably seen their fair share of both sides of the argument and should be allowed to decide for themselves

yeah, but he's going to get fucked like no tomorrow till he's like 30 and then he'll kill himself. so, almost the same as you, except for the sex. good life

>Person is suffering from mental illness that causes delusion and identity complex
Do you:
>Tell them their delusions are real and mutilate their body to fit their unhealthy mindset
or
>Help them break free of their delusions and live comfortably as their true self

So explain to me. How does it feel to have a vagina compared to having a penis? How does it feel to be a woman compared to a man?

Yeah, I can just imagine the countless dudes who get turned on by surgical wounds instead of vaginas

not sure what the problem is, just play vidya and have you're wife take the kids. Seems like a no brainer to me.

well, there are. just take a look around Yea Forums. full of faggots

Imagine still thinking that being trans is a mental illness rofl

If a "woman" has a dick, they are by definition a biological male / man. The problem with "letting them figure out their own life" is that there are many children and adolescents who are fed a constant stream of trans brainwashing like the discord community you're probably coming from. People who are vulnerable are susceptible to suggestion. I'm suggesting the option that does not cause irreversible physical damage to OP's body, whether that damage be in the form of a surgery or taking hormones.

oh wait, take the kids. okay, great joke.

Errrrr, wrong you nigger. We like dicks, thank you very much.

Why are we getting hung up about biological sex? When that doesn't matter in the slightest?
People change over time, and some of them change from men into women, it's not that complicated.

17. Calls people newfag. Actual faggot.

Seek mental help.

There are literally no known complications to taking hormones. You can't have kids and you grow boobs, that's pretty much it assuming you don't have any preexisting conditions.

>implying you wouldn't hit his mangled fleshwound
don't worry, it still smells like dick, you faggot

wrong faggot nobody gives a fuck about SRS vaginas we love dicks

It's just like changing cars or flooring except irreversible.

Because facts dont care about feelings. Science is real. Biology is real. Transgenderism is mental illness and should be treated appropriately.

Who needs vaginas when everyone comes equipped with an asshole anyway?

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OP here, just finished watching the first one and I actually agree with everything this man says. No child under the age of 16 should be given any doubt about their gender. They certainly shouldn't be given anything other than puberty blockers so that they can have more time to think carefully and properly. I wholeheartedly agree that a manufactured trans child will have issues down the line and shouldn't be allowed to transition

However, I wasn't forced into anything as a child. In fact, quite the opposite. I had to "act like a man" and was never allowed anything remotely girly. Surprisingly I was never abused or beaten either. Haven't watched the second one yet but Im sure it'll be a fun watch

Biological sex absolutely matters. Biological females don't have the organs that produce testosterone in quantities that cause a child to develop as a male. Biological males don't have ovaries or produce estrogen in quantities high enough to make them biologically female. Biological sex is demonstrably provable in reality. Your thoughts and feelings are not.

OP if you're still reading:
- You will never have ovaries
- You will never birth children
- No amount of hormones will make you a girl (or boy if you're trying ftm)
- You will NEVER, no matter how hard you try, be able to defeat your biology. Surgery won't do it. Drugs won't do it. You will only want to kill yourself when the realization that you have a disorder that causes you to hate your body sinks in.

Except all the suicide.

No, I agree, mods ban people for the stupidest shit, now that it's time to uphold the rules they won't, mods need to ban this underage faggot, lurk moar until you are of age retard

Hormones don't cause suicide. If they did, you'd be seeing women killing themselves en masse when they hit puberty, when biological males have a way higher suicide rate by themselves.

Transitioning lowers those odds

Oh man, I guess girls going through menopause aren't biological women and should just kill themselves because their hormones are unbalanced and they can't have kids :/

false equivalence

How so? Menopausal women even take the same drugs that trans women do.

they have been fertile women for 30 to 40 years and their body slowly stops working. that's natural. meanwhile, you want to become a woman in her menopause.

So what about women who have dysfunctional ovaries at birth and also have to take hormone supplements? Should they kill themselves too?

You're right, I will never have ovaries.
No periods, no eggs, no need for tampons or pads. I'll need hormones to emulate production.
I will never have kids, unless of course I save some sperm and use a surrogate or even fall in love with a woman and she agrees to have the kid. Or you know, adoption exists. As for the actual birthing process I can live without tbh, not in the mood for that much pain.
Biologically, I will never fully be a girl, you are correct. As long as I can see myself as one mentally I'll be fine.
As for defeating biology, you're also correct, that shit is fucking impossible without advancements in science. The best I can do is get as far close as I can which is what Im trying to do.
And finally on the note of suicide, I've tried, I've failed, I'll inevitably try again at some point down the road but hey, at least I'll die as a transwoman

they often do. hey, i don't even know why i'm argueing with you, i don't really care either way. good luck with that whole thing, mate. and no, that wasn't sarcastic.

No reason to die, that's stupid. Get off of Yea Forums and live your life as a normal woman, transitioning is way less difficult than people chalk it up to be as long as you put in the effort. Instead of browsing Yea Forums get your ass to a therapist, I don't know how it works in the UK but therapists in the US will even see minors with no insurance. Even then you only have a few months until you're 18 and can do it all yourself. It'll be especially easy for you to transition as you're only 17 so most of the effects of testosterone can pretty much be reversed and you won't have much social pressure as you move to college.

Please seek help. The fact that you've tried to kill yourself already speaks volumes to the amount of psychological problems you are encountering. There is literally nothing that will ever change all the cells in your body to female. You are male bro. You need to come to terms with it and learn to be comfortable with your body. I know I'm just some faggot on Yea Forums but please don't listen to the people trying to condition you into thinking it's "normal" or "acceptable" to want to be a girl. They're the FIRST people that will abandon you after you do something drastic like surgery / hormones. "What, you still have problems? I thought you were a girl now, user! Cheer up!" It will NEVER get better. You will NEVER be a girl.

You wouldn't call someone with dysfunctional ovaries not a real woman, That's my point. Good luck to you too.

I try to, I even got my name legally changed not that long ago. Yea Forums is just a way to kill time tbh and I've seen multiple therapists and psychiatrists. The UK has a shitty GIC system that requires 2 years of waiting lists from referral because no nhs has got no money. The whole reason I made this post was to see if anyone knew a way to get hormonal meds because Im impatient and its been almost a year since my original referral. I know I need to get two meds, one called Evorel and another called Finasteride, both of which require a prescription but can't get one without seeing these fuckers that need 2 years of waiting

As for killing myself thats mostly unrelated, I haven't tried anything since January and honestly I dont think I was subconsciously trying hard enough

Sorry for linking to reddit, but here's a pretty comprehensive list of places that'll sell to you. reddit.com/r/TransDIY/wiki/pharmacies

Dude, very serious question. How do you know how it feels to be a woman when you are a man? Or that it will even fulfill your desire? Are you attracted to men or women?

Not OP, but I can tell you that the thing that "causes" people to want to become transgender is unhappiness from male things and happiness from female things. So for example, wearing men's clothes makes you feel bad about wearing them or make you feel wrong, while wearing women's clothes would make you feel better.

It has nothing to do with who you're attracted to, and just about how you feel when doing things as male vs female.

In what way do you mean feel?
And Im bi, I'll fuck either gender

Kek

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Thanks for the response. How does it feel wrong?

Assuming you're not trans, imagine being a dude wearing girl's clothes every day. They just don't feel right, it's just not who you want to be.