Anyone ??

why would you distribute a denominator?

what is going through your head?

you're not applying distribution / OoO's in a correct manner.

It doesn't matter if its a denominator. You still have to simplify it first.

This is a perfect example of why the "÷" symbol should be illegal, and anyone who uses it should be deemed savages.

you simplify the fraction not distribute the denominator.

you don't do 10 / 3 (6+6) and distrubute the damn 3

It's ambiguous so there's no correct answer. You can't use a division sign and then a parenthesis, you have to either use a fraction sign to indicate the (2(2+2)) grouping or add another parenthesis to indicate the 8/2 grouping

>you can't use a division sign and then parenthesis)

PEMDAS

1. parenthesis
2. exponent
3. multiple OR divide from left to right
4. add OR subtract left to right

go back to 6th grade and kill yourselves

What are you smoking?
The whole thing IS a fraction.

8 is the numerator

2(2+2) is the denominator.

You simplify the denominator first.

5

your order of operations is wrong. period.

not what they taught me at school, but okay, i guess murica has its own education, it was always multiply first

Rules 3 and 4 are arbitrary Americanisms and have no basis in mathematical truth. They only describe the standard for solving an equation if it is written out correctly to begin with.

it looks like this properly

8(2+2)
------
2

if you wanna be Mr. Cool Distributor Dude

Again with this equation. There are two correct answers. If the world's mathematicians can't agree, Yea Forums is certainly not going to solve this.

8 / (2 (2+2))
or
(8 / 2)*(2 + 2)
are BOTH considered correct. No real mathematician would ever write the original equation, just because of this.

Any argument for one or the other are just taking sides. This debate has been going on for years.

even the UK / Canada system says left to right.

looks like you should've taken more adderall in class

Me too

16.

now fuck off

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8/ (2(2+2))

8 is divded over all the numbers

(8/2) (8/2+8/2)
4(4+4)
4(8)
32

Its 1
You fuck off

8 ÷ 2(2 + 2) =
= 8 ÷ 2(4)
= 8 ÷ 8
= 1

This is true

You fucking niggers dont know math.
Heres the real solution

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are you retarded?

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Your method should be this
(8/2) (8/2) + (8/(2+2))

You messed up.

fuck off with this bullshit question

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mathpapa.com/algebra-calculator.html

16

Low d'high - high d'low
Square the bottom and away we go

Fucking idiot

42

How much did you pay when you went to retard school? That's not how you distribute division at all. Follow the PEMDAS order of operations and you'll get the correct answer.

8÷2(2+2)
8÷2(4)
4(4)
16

And before you say anything about how Multiplication is listed before Division in PEMDAS you should remember from 1st grade that Multiplication and Division are operations of equal importance, and are done left to right just like Addition and Subtraction.

1

fucking idiots
8/2(2+2)
8/2(4) OR 8/2*4
4*4
16

Fuck off and figure out how to write actual equations. Only a retard would actually write an equation like this.

Good has already admitted that their calculator is fucked in this situation because it fails to implement FOIL which is an absolute in mathematics. The correct answer is 1.

The whole expression is written as a sentence.
Because we are only given a sentence, we cannot assume that 8 is the numerator and we must respect orders of operations.

Hint: I have a masters in maths and starting my PhD this fall

Google* even

>8÷2(4)
If you were really following pemdas, you would MULTIPLY 2(4) and then divide 8 by whatever you recieved.

Google calculator doesnt take into account orders of operations.

I didn't write it you gargantuan faggot,lord and master of all that is fabulous and gay.
I found it online.
You mong.

symbolab.com/solver/step-by-step/8\div2\left(2+2\right)

>8/2(4) OR 8/2*4
>4*4
STOP DOVIDING 8 BY 2 BEFORE MULTIPLYING BY 4 YOU FUCKING RETARDS

FOIL doesnt matter for this equation because there is only one set of parentheses

I literally fucking just said at the end of my post that Multiplication and Division are EQUAL OPERATIONS UNDER PEMDAS, DO THEM FROM RIGHT TO LEFT YOU RETARDED COMMON CORE FAGGOT

1

yall are idiots multiplying and dividing are on equal terms

I will find you.
And i will kill you.

DONT YOU YELL AT ME YOU MOTHERFUCKER
YOU LICKED THE CEILING AFTER CUM SEEPED DOWN FROM THE FLOOR ABOVE YOU BECAUSE YOUR PARENTS WERE FUCKING UPSTAIRS YOU DEGENERATE BASEMENT DWELLING SPERGLORD

To all those who are getting the answers 1, 32, or literally anything other than 16, you are living proof of humanity's need for a second Holocaust.

you do them left to right

The answer is 5

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2 - 3 + 1

2 - 4

-2

pemdAs
addition before subtraction. checkmate faggots .

holy shit

Opinions, or what you prefer, means nothing. There are two correct answers.
PEMBAS does not define the parenthesis. Go to univ as a math major
Thank you
Someone gets it
Exactly
This on is just dumb
How this is resolved depends on the calculator you use. Not all come up with the same answer.

Fucking hell, didn't notice the typo. I was too distracted by the idiocy of all these elementary school drop-out niggers

5 it is
Praise Kek

Heh

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Fucking kek

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>PEMDAS doesn't define parentheses

The 'P' literally stands for parentheses

In canada we say BEMDAS

B is for brackets

-3+1=-4? What the fuck?

The P stands for pizza.

God fucking damn it Yugi...

You got a problem with my answer?

Except you threw in an extra set of parentheses out of nowhere on the first problem

What do you mean?

Fucking Yugi. I don't know how he does it.

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>806455211
i need to find my ti-83 and ill do it there too.
if the equation was 8/(2(2+2)) then ya it would be 1 but its not its 8/2(2+2). (2+2) comes first now we have 8/2*4. 8/2 comes first because pemdas. now you multiply 4 by 4 and get 16

Apologies for being unclear. To clarify, it doesn't define what happens next to the parentheses, ie the implied multiplication. Should that be treated as an explicit multiplication and done left to right, or as part of the denominator and solved first? Both are correct.

Go back to eating snow and saying "eh?" like a total spaz you canuk faggot

yes it should be 0

> "... No one cares about the "changed system" meme. " ;

OK - maybe NOBODY cares about it in the USA,
but EVERYBODY cares about it outside the USA.

This is one of the main problems in this world at the moment:
fucking Americans ALWAYS think THEY MUST be right:
purely & simply because they are
> fucking AMERICANS.

It doesn't even occur to them that there are about THIRTY TIMES as many people in the whole fucking world who ACTUALLY disagree with them (largely) because we know that the residents of the USA are totally retarded & ill-educated, because their Educational System is totally fucked in the head.

> TL DR : the answer is 1 ( one ) (ein) ( un ) (uno) etc. for every other language in the world.

so youre an idiot

> "... the answer is 1 ( one ) (ein) ( un ) (uno) etc. for every other language in the world. " ;

..... apart from what Americans fondly believe to be "THEIR" form of the
> " English "
language
..... which SPECIFICALLY can be (and is) only properly defined in England (in the United Kingdom of Great Britain & Northern Ireland)
where we differ with them on almost every point of vocabulary & syntax

TL DR : fucking American retards !

Here are all the gory details regarding implied multiplication and order of operation. Enjoy.
math.harvard.edu/~knill/pedagogy/ambiguity/

it's this you jews

8 ÷ 2 × 2 + 2 × 2 =12

*BEDMAS
Brackets
Exponents
Division or Multiplication, whichever come first in the equation
Addition
Subtraction

or maybe this

8 ÷ 4 + 4 = 6

Brackets
Indices
Divide
Multiply
Addition
Subtraction

therefore:

8/2(2+2)
8/2(4)
4(4)
16

16

Both 1 and 16 are correct. It is an expression of an equation which can be read either way. Math is infallible. People aren’t.

This assumes implied parentheses around the 2(2+2), which there aren’t so you can’t distribute

Jesus H. Christ!

You only distribute the denominator if you're doing algebra. We already know all required variabled, so simple BEDMAS/PEMDAS is used.

1. Brackets
2. Exponents
3. Multiplication/Division (Read from left to right)
4. Addition/Subtraction (Read from left to right)

The only right answer is 16.

8 4 4
______ =_______=____=1
2(2+2) 2+2 4

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Heh should have known the layout would fuck that up

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8÷2(2+2)
8÷2 = 4
2(2+2) = 4
(2+2) = 4
2 = 2
Now,
4 + 4 + 4 + 2 = 16

16

8÷2(2+2)
or
8/2(2+2)
is the same

whoever thinks it's 8/8=1 is a huge fucking idiot
correct answer is 16

8 ÷ 2(2+2)
8÷ 2(2) + 2
8 ÷ 4 + 2
8 ÷ 6
1.5
its misleading but i can see howyou all get itwrong

8/2(2+2) = X
X/2(2+2) = 1/8
X/2(4) = 1/8
X/8 = 1/8
X = 1

1
8÷2(2+2)
8÷(4+4)
8÷8
=1

Thing is.... / is fraction while ÷ is division, there is a difference.
8/4 is eight quarters
8÷4 is eight divided by 4
Now, in the problem at hand, 8÷2(2+2):
8 divided by 2, which multiplies (2 plus 2) equals 16
Whereas,
8/2(2+2)
8 fractions of, 2 that multiplies (2+2) equals 1

8*(1/2)*(2+2)
4*4
16

8÷2(2+2) = X
X(2+2) = 2÷8
2X + 2X = 0.25
4X = 0.25
X = 0.25 ÷ 4
X = 0.0625

*facepalm*

8÷4 is eight divided by 4 which = 2
8/4 is eight quarters... which... wait for it = 2

/ is just another symbol for ÷

8÷2(2+2) = X
8÷2(8÷2+8÷2) = X
4(4+4) = X
(16+16)=X
X = 32

Well yuor.mother is a prostitute and will die because you not replyed to that post hahaha who is laugjing nwo bithc???

2(2+2) = (2(2+2))
You only need to worry about the latter when plugging it into a calculator, but for all practical purposes, the former implies the latter.

>PEMDAS
>Power
>Exponent
>Multiply
>Divide
>Add
>Substract
No parentheses nor brackets, idiot.

The P stands for parenthesis

Kek, back to summer in the fall dumbass, parenthesis is the fucking P, you dickhead.

That's more like a suggestion rather than a rule of law.

2(2+2) is a single function, you resolve it before the rest of the equation.

16

Kek, your professor is going to have fucking kittens when you tell him that, dumbass.

Why would P and E of PEMDAS stand for the same thing?

this is why the beatings should continue until moral(and basic math skills) improves

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Jesus it is not
(8/2) * (2+2) = 16
8 / (2*(2+2)) = 1

With PEMDAS it is 16 fucking brainlets

it is not

2
----------
2(2+2)

are you dumb? its not (8/2) x (2+2)

look at the right side of the work i did.

when x = y

you can multiple, add, divide, what ever you fancy to both sides and the value of the variables stays the same. so if you multiply 2(2+2) to both sides, its the exact same as multiplying both sides by 1

but in this case it simplifies the 2(2+2) out of the denominator so youre only working with multiplication until you finally, divide both sides by 8

Whats so difficult to understand about "left TO right?"

They will never get it user
They think 8÷2(a+b)=4(a+b)

you dont have to.

2 x 7 x 10 x 4 is always going to be 560

whether you do it as 2 x 7 x 40(last 2 first)
or 2 x 14(middle 2 first) x 4

8 x 7 x 10 (first and last multiplied first)

mistyped 2nd part 2 x 70 x 4 = 560

Christ so many fucking retards in this thread...

Let us try to simplify above statement using the PEMDAS or BODMAS (whatever you prefer to call).

Step 1: 8 ÷ 2 (2+2) (parentheses first)
Step 2: = 8 ÷ 2 * (2+2) (adding multiplication sign for further clarification)
Step 3: = 8 ÷ 2 * (4) (single digit in parentheses – simplify using operator)
Step 4: = 8 ÷ 2 * 4 (Remember next Operation should be LEFT to RIGHT)
Step 5: = 4 * 4 (because 8 ÷ 2 = 4; remember LEFT to RIGHT)
Step 6: = 16 (final answer)

Any calculator and programming language will give you this answer. If you say the answer is 1, it means you are a complete fucking retard and fail at basic fucking math. KYS

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8 / 2(2+2) // parenthis first
8 / 2*4 // division and multiply in left to right

8 / 2 = 4
4*4 = 16

pls tell me at what point u disagree!

11 000 215.235

x * (y) is not the same as x(y) the parenthesis means you do whats inside and whats ever attached to it on the outside.

x * (y) makes it 2 functions

butt x(y) its 1 function

you SIMPLIFY 1 FUNCTION AT A TIME

and you dont have to work LEFT TO RIGHT

xyz is the same as yzx but without parenthesis theyre each their own FUNCTION

Step 2: (adding multiplication sign to change the result)
Good job retard

8/2(2+2)
8/2×4
4×4
16

the question is:
8/2(2+2)
NOT
8/(2(2+2))
So the answer is 16...

>pls tell me at what point u disagree!

see

Potato

Fucking idiots it's 1

>reddit

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>x* (y) is not the same as x(y) the
Hahah, retard

3 & 4 are a world-wide standard.

Wrong
Wrong too

Back to basic algebra you two

???????????????????

Oh please ENLIGHTEN ME
what kind of function is ab then? if it is not a*b ?

(y) resolves to y are you completely mentally challenged lol?

Only a retard would reach the answer '1'. Programmers write it like that (except they use '/' for division), because that's what computers accept.

Why do computers accept it like that ? Because they were originally programmed by mathematicians that knew the order of operations.

>Why do computers accept it like that ? Because they were originally programmed by mathematicians that
\thread

You mention algebra, but think that 8÷2(a+b)=4(a+b)
It doesnt

Good thread

Why don't you apply for a phd and prove that all programming language have faulty order of operations.

so you're saying that 0.5(2+2) is actually 1/8 instead of 2 ?

Why do you not acknowledge that 8÷2(a+b)=4(a+b) is incorrect

8÷2x(a+b)=4(a+b)
8÷2(a+b)=/=4(a+b)
How it is written matters, and the way the original problem is written, the answer is 1

function referring to 1 unit, you retard. they are a package deal, you do that unit first before eating glue and ending up with 16

PEMDAS
1 do Parenthesis
2 do Multiplication left to right

Potato

8÷2*(a+b)=4*(a+b) is correct

8÷2(a+b)=/=4(a+b) is incorrect

your original statement is 8÷2*(a+b) not 8÷(2*(a+b))

Left to right isn't a thing, and 2(a+b) is a single unit with a specific value
The 2 can't be separated as it's part of the unit 2(a+b)

>original statement is 8÷2*(a+b)
wrong its

8/2(2+2)

which = 1

I was talking about the post i was referring to you doofus. Furthermore, you are confusing 8/2(2+2) for 8/(2(2+2)) but hey this is a hard problem so i understand your confusion

That's completely wrong
2(a+b) is a single unit. You can't remove the 2 from it, because it literally means 2 multiples of the sum of a and b.
You don't even understand basic algebra you dumbass

You have no idea what you're talking about

You contradict yourself by your own logic, which states that the 8 is also considered part of this unit..

Parentheses and exponents take priority.

It's not your school, but seems like your knowledge is lacking, you window-licker! Here, "you can learn anything": khanacademy.org/math/pre-algebra/pre-algebra-arith-prop/pre-algebra-order-of-operations/v/introduction-to-order-of-operations

then you need better teachers - and the way it's written absolutely gives you an x=1 or x=16 answer

why are ameritards so fucking retarded?
They even use words to remember basic concepts like order of operation

When you thought "miles and inches" wasn't enough from the land of the free, lmao.

>2(a+b) is a single unit
forgot to reply
where i mentioned you simply removed the 1/8 from this unit...

just as you yourself say you can't remove the 2 from it, you can't remove the *1/8 from it as well

shit bait due to shitty equation formatting
could be read as (8/2)*(2+2) or 8/[(2)*(2+2)]

2

Are you drunk?

kys nigger

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1st Parenthesis,
2nd. exponents
3rd.multiplication/division
4. addition/subtraction.

Was taught in this order

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COMBINE 8 QUARTERS, AND YOU GET 2 WHOLES, YOU NUCKLEHEAD! BOTH SIGNS MEAN THE SAME THING!
WHAT'S 9 QUARTERS ADD UP TO!?

The 8 is not part of that unit.
The 8 can be moved, for example, you could move the 8 in the equation to the opposite side of the = sign, changing it to multiplication, and still get the correct answer
2(2+2)=1×8
It's not magic user, it's simple algebra

you dont' just get to add more parentheses user...

8 dick inside ure tits
better than 288 faggots, u decide!

No shit sherlock, as well as the 1/2 can be moved...It's not magic user, it's simple algebra

For the last fucking time:
8/2(2+2)=4.4 = 16
8/(2(2+2)) = 8 / 8 = 1
There is literally no other way to see it

can't just add parentheses willy-nilly user...

He doesn't.. He states two different problems with two different answers.

the 8 would "pass to the other side" as 1/8 mate. I'm so glad that all the math I have ever taught went probably to waste.

What 1/2?
You're getting so confused your imagining shit
2(2+2) is a single unit, just as 2(a+b) is a single unit. They have an absolute value and as such cannot be separated from each other within the eqautuin when written like that.
That's the difference from using a × sign.
Doesn't matter how frustrated you get user, that's the way it is whether you understand it or not

Both 16 and 1 are correct you idiot faggots.

The problem here is the first one and the answer is 16, period. I'm just explaining why some people are getting 1. They are not wrong, just confused about how the operations are defined. Also yes, they are wrong, but my teaching side is benevolent and I don't like saying "that's wrong" to my students

>eqautuin

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Parentheses first, multiplication, then division.

So (2+2) = 4
8 divided by 2(4) is
8 divided by 8
The answer is one.

>(8/2)(2+2)
It is this.
(8/2) x (2+2)
4 x 4
16

>multiplication, then division.
My sides

>the 8 would "pass to the other side" as 1/8
So 2(2+2)=1×1/8?
And you claim to be a teacher?
Holy fuck user, just stop already

You've added a ( and a ) there, woops

We know numbers confuse you, but come on man...
You're embarrassing yourself

Or Google, it does the same

You might be the only person on earth that constructs the binary operations tree from right to left, but hey, we are the retards amirite

impossible to solve definittively because the way its written poorly formatted

yall niggers getting trolled

Please show how that equation would be written, because it would seem that you are saying 8=0.125

There is no left to right, or right to left
Its simultaneous
You not understanding this explains a lot

8/2(2+2)
=8/2(4) (parenthesis first)
=4*4 (Mul / Div left to right)
=16

Ow shit, calculators and programming languages are non-deterministic now?

\nigga

>binary operations tree
You don't know what that means do you?

So you're telling me 8/2*4 is simultaneous 1 and 16?

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Getting so angry you start posting random nonsense

10
8/2=4
4x2=8
8+2=10

That's not how the relevant problem is written
What you wrote would be solved sequentially, but that's not the problem being addressed

>What you wrote would be solved sequentially
Ah thank you, finally you got it right

1. anybody who says otherwise is full retard

But that's not how the problem is written
I thought you were just a poor troll, but you honestly don't get it do you?

This. Just do it left - right. Parentheses dont mean shit

What does in your opinion 8/2*4 evaluates to? If you abide by the PEMDAS rules (left to right).

Based user. Only real answer here

16

Because naturally pemdas occurs in our universe right?

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>Because naturally pemdas occurs in our universe right?
Really nigga? this guy talking about math, something humans came up with, it has a strict set of rules..

Ur welcome. These dumb fucks are brainless

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? what does that have to do with it?

It's solved simultaneously in the sense that there is no order, its actually just 3 numbers
+8
×0.5
×4
The order those numbers are placed in is not relevant to the result, a program wouldn't even sequence them in order to solve
You have a really loose grasp of the way mathematics actually functions

Math is a natural occurrence however our interpretation of it isn't
>being this dumb

But what is the answer?

FINAL answer:
youtube.com/watch?v=bVrL8vMgaFs

You don't have to follow pemdas dumbass, it's a human invention nor something that is bound by physical law

you violated ther left to right rule

Buy youve changed the problem to fit your result again
8/2x4 is not the same as 8/2(2+2)

See
Thread over faggoronis

Why is this thread still up?

Dunno I answered it.
It's 10

The answer to that question would be 16, but that is not the question in the OP.
you modified the problem to fit your result

I'm asking a different problem, what is the answer?

wolframalpha.com/input/?i=8/(2(2+2))
Kill yourself fucking idiot

STFU IT'S 10

(2+2)
=4

The answer I just gave you
How pompous can you be?

PEMDAS
>Parenthesis
>Exponents
>Multiplication/Division
>Addition/Subtraction

BIDMAS
>Brackets
>Integers
>Division/Multiplication
>Addition/Subtraction

In both of these systems Division and Multiplication are dependent from left to right. Same for Addition and Subtraction.

8/2(2+2)

>Parenthesis/Brackets comes first in the orders

8/2(4)

And now because all that is left are division and multiplication, you go from left to right.

8/2 = 4
4(4)
4*4
=16

Why would you distribute 2(2+2)?
It's not necessary and distributing is multiplying the numbers, which comes AFTER parenthesis/brackets.

This is my own opinion in how to do the operation. But as one of the anons said, not even the greatest mathematicians have agreed on a firm resolution to this problem. Yes you can distribute if you want

8/2(2+2)
8/((2*2)+(2*2))
8/((4)+(4))
8/8
=1

but distributing is more effort than just following the rules of both the Ameritards and Eurofags Pemdas and Bidmas where both state to do the brackets/parenthesis first.

>inb4 some user in the thread said P stands for Power
no it fucking doesn't. Exponents and Powers are the same fucking thing, so why would it be stated twice.

You added more parentheses changing order of operation fucking retard

This. Google confirms. Though It should be written like:
(8/2)(2+2) to avoid confusion like this.

MFW she grabs me and uses me as a dildo.

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see
\thread

That’s how it’s supposed to be done you utter fucking imbecile