Best beginner CCW pistol for self-defense?

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crackers are crazy and unpredictable we must be prepared

Also it's not just the gun. It's also the training and practice you put in.

This ain't call of duty.

Why are you obsessed with my dick? This is a gun thread not a dick thread yet you are posting about my dick.

If you're worried about accuracy and range, you shouldn't be firing in self defense, you should be running.

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Hammerless Revolver

U niggas will probably jam a pistol cause u b scared if u need to use it

t. Popo

To clarify, generally the only time you're justified in shooting in self defense is if the person is under 10 ft away from you and approaching you, a small child could shoot accurately enough in those circumstances.

A plasma defender.

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You black? Sorry, you'll want a high point 9mm.

Quit projecting

Great, media says shootings are 4-chan's fault and now the retarded libfags are showing up. Just kill yourself already

9mm s&w shield
or .38 bodyguard

This though

Desert eagle with AP ammo

tiny thin ass dick for a pistol kek

I'd go for a simple 22. pistol. Anything bigger just screams baby dick.

>micropenis detected

People like you who worry about your penis size every time you make a purchase have the smallest wein0rz

I'd be fine with a 22. It's small and easy to conceal. Quick pop pop to the guys chest cavity and run. Shit ain't John Wick.

Here you go, OP.

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rimfire is not reliable. Ignition is spotty. Ken hackathorn says the there are 5 factors in a good carry gun, and the first 3 are all reliability.
380 is also small and easy to hide, but more reliable. 380 acp can fit in some SMALL guns

Keep on trucking, Lil dix.

I'm looking to give the guy a chance to live. Not looking for the opportunity gonna straight up blast somebody because muh rights.

Guns are scary huh faggot?

My dick is scarier.
So wait, someone puts a gun in your face and you're just going to suck the barrel, like a homo. OK buddy.

Guns not scary me tough man

The longer the barrel the more accurate it will be, and the better the range. It has plenty of power even out of a short barrel, just understand a short barrel pistol inherently is less accurate than the same pistol with a longer barrel.

I have a .45 xds. It's really nice, but not too accurate.

If you need him to live, don't use a gun.

22LR is deadly. if you really want that power though, 25ACP simulates the ballistics of 22lr but in a centerfire (which is more reliable) cartridge.

but one of the other things Ken says as one of the 5 things is you want to make sure the bullet has enough power to take the opponent out. If you are not willing to kill, DON'T carry a gun.

that is very wrong.

>generally the only time you're justified in shooting in self defense is if the person is under 10 ft away from you and approaching you

lol found the yankee from a lib cuck state.

it should be. Those usually are. either you have a lemon, or you are not great with handguns (nobody is except competition shooters)

I'm just imagining some of you little faggots, running around with a shiny joker magnum stuffed in your waistline like some nigger. Just praying to get bullied again so you can bust caps like a retarded ape. Get a 22. and never mention it again.

Legally, you're way better off killing somebody with 1 shot. It's significantly easier to avoid legal and civil repercussions if you are the only one able to tell the story.

no that is completely correct when it comes to a pistol. We aren't talking long rifle barrels at extended ranges, where barrel whip can come into play.

I'm pretty sure that's the law.

>I'm looking to give the guy a chance to live.

You mean looking to give the guy a chance to lie about what happened, and turn around and sue you.

Red state, libcuck town doe :(

the self defense laws vary by state. some states require you to retreat if at all possible, before you can use force.

some states do not.

I carry a m&p shield in 9mm. Good little carry imo

I'm not crucifying anyone. Justice shall prevail.

I should explain.
Accuracy/precision is consistency and ability to hit a specific point. This means you need your shot to be repeatable. This means you want conditions of cartridge detonation and the movement of the bullet to be the same every time. Moving the same speed, spinning the same speed, hitting no burrs in the rifling, etc. Once the bullet is stabilized (achieves spin from the rifled grooves) It achieves whatever accuracy it will have. If the barrel is long, there is more chance for inconsistency. Barrel length is instead related to burning of powder and bullet velocity, not accuracy

Sure. Sure. You talk like a Jew.

This is a personal decision, you have to do your own research. The standard answer is a 9mm Glock though, as small or as large as you feel comfortable carrying.

No shit.

You don't want a clunky piece of shit to slip from your limp wristed hands and land on floor, now, do you?

ar or ak pistol

great concealers, rain hell on any attacker.

Only a worthless kike would try to rob someone, get shot, and still try to get their money in the end. Fucking kikes.

Get a load of this fucking jew boy right here. We're talking about self defense and this guy only cares about money hahaha

I mean blacks do it too

no, you go to jail.

When you lose this sort of thing, you go to prison

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somewhat incorrect. short barreled pistols are inherently accurate, for multiple reasons.

1. Short distance between the front and rear sight, gives much more room for error.

2. In the gun in question above, a S&W 500, the powder has not all finished burning before the round leaves the barrel. That gives additional varying random turbulence from the powder detonation.

3. Short barrel hasn't exactly given it much time to spin up to a higher rpm.

Try looking at S&W's specs for short barrel pistols, and how inaccurate they are allowed to be, and still be within spec. The listings for that are purely applying to short barreled pistols, and not longer ones, for good reason.

Yeah if I'm about to be attacked by some deranged psycho I'm yelling out loud I have a gun back the fuck up I'll shoot you yada yada you know raise awareness to potential witnesses. Like I'm not said, I'm not an opportunistic murderer.

G19, G43 or a m&p shield are pretty solid, standard choices. Shield grip is a little narrow for me and a g19 is a g19, best all around handgun for the price imo.

Naw, we got niggers and jew ambulance chasers here. The niggers always dindu nuffin, wuz mindin dey owns bizness, wen da nassy racist white boi came's long and started blasting.

I chose a Springfield XD sub compact chambered in .40SW and here is why

Similar safety to glocks (grip activated not a switch, so less likely to draw and fumble), multiple indicator systems to show if it is loaded, cocked and chambered. .40 for a little better energy (slightly larger round, and more powder) than 9mm.

The key though is still practice. Take a basics, then tactics course. Find a cheap local indoor range, get a pass, go at once a week and burn 10-20 rounds very deliberately. Get snap caps to practice immediate action drills to the range, 20-30 rounds/ month. Use snap caps and practice draw and fire drills at home (BUT BE SURE TO USE ONLY THE SNAP CAPS)

Practice working the action on the gun and get comfortable with how it feels.

Take another tactics class 1x/year

Above all, always practice good muzzle awareness.

This is what I consider basics to be a concealed carry individual that is capable of doing more harm than good.

Sauce:14+ years military...

>inherently accurate, for multiple reasons.

Make that inherently Inaccurate

Haha, I'm sorry your a worthless jewish roach. Ahem, I mean Israeli piece of shit.

Checked and get rekt, kids.

I carried a Ruger SP101 in .357 MAG. As long as you change the stock grips it's a great sidearm. You can run 38 Special, too, if you prefer.

enjoy going deaf