The US congress should ban ALL high capacity magazines today! High capacity magazines are NOT a 2nd-A right.
The US congress should ban ALL high capacity magazines today! High capacity magazines are NOT a 2nd-A right
No such thing as high capacity magazines. Whatever they hold is their standard.
American should killed themselves with their guns, prove me wrong, space is a beautiful place.
fuck you OP
They can ban whatever they want. I'm not getting rid of mine. Fuck them.
agreed
nice chart
i wanna argue, but at the same time, its always the fucking same
fuck off with these stupid ass arguments, be fucking ashamed on how bad they are, you fucking retard
Why not? Because your the law abiding citizen good guy with a gun and 30 round magazine? The same guy who just said he has no problem breaking the law?
Statistics don’t care about your argument. You're content being the apathetic “come and take it” retard who doesn’t offer anything to support his own rights to ownership
Wrong. Keep jerking off to that thought though
My rights>your feelings
High capacity magazines can be utilized in handguns as well as long guns. Sorry, magazines of any type are not a right.
Found the best argument yet
the second amendment has no limitations. all gun restrictions are unconstitutional.
Shall not be infringed
Show me where it’s your right to own a high capacity magazine, I’ll wait. The problem with screaming “but muh rites” is you show yourself to be too dumb to know what they are and what they are not.
Supreme Court ruled some time ago that local, state and federal government may enforce limitations.
Every. Single. Gun. Law. Is. Unconstitutional.
How is regulating the capacity of a magazine an infringement on your 2A rights? You must be howling that all states restrict the amount of rounds you are allowed while hunting
High capacity magazines for the reading impaired
and? still unconstitutional.
Whatever is standard issue for the average soldier should be allowed for the average citizen. That's the whole right to maintain a militia part of the second amendment. The moment the people become unable to reasonably organize as a militia is the moment any act becomes unconstitutional. A militia being a military that consists of citizens.
Let the USA citizens have their gun. They are so stupid they shoot storms and believe in religion, conspiracy theories, but not NASA or science. We just don't want american gringos emigrating to our countries. Just keep yourselves in your shithole USA.
>he's being autistic about the size of the crayon box
What's the matter, mommy not get you the one with the built in sharpener? Suck an egg faggot.
formulate a reasonable assertion as to why a high capacity magazine is within your rights to own under the 2A. It’s already been upheld in the courts as to its constitutionality but maybe they simply missed your opinion
Come and fuckin take them from me you fuckin pussy
Why should it not be, only because it frightens people who don't use the tools? I'm not a fan of ladders, super tall 20 foot ladders should not exist because there is no practical reason for owning one.
You gun nuts always go off the rail when it’s shown you don’t possess the rights you think you do. I’ll suck the egg if you’ll suck a dick.
Both shooters were left wing brainwashed children of the new world, let’s ban them.
Fuck off. Always armed, always shoot back
I suck dick and am a gun nut
Found the Texan. Go sit on Abbott’s lap like the dog you wish you were good enough to be
I already said that every gun law is unconstitutional. You are just baiting. My bait proved the better bait.
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700 people were killed by ladders last month. Racist white nationalist ladders. Ban them
>save the environment
Left wing
Wrong, magazines are not guns. Supreme Court has upheld this. You’re wrong a lot in life aren’t you?
Aren't we so excited! A shooting happened and it was a white guy, squeeee! We can spam this shit for days!1 YAY!
The SCOTUS has pointedly avoided ruling on high capacity magazines. If you really want to push a high capacity ban against the current panel of judges, you're foolish at best.
2A isn't for hunting. It's for fighting a tyrannical government.
Inb4 "but muh organized militia" - We're all in the fucking militia of the United States. 10 US Code 246 Militia - "All able-bodied males of at least 17 years of age"
Inb4 "Can you stop drones with rifles?" faggotry - the goat herders are doing a damn fine job. Try taking the guns from the hillbillies in Appalachia, rednecks in Florida, Midwestern farmers, etc. That would be a fucking nightmare.
Sounds good, sounds constitutional. You don’t have a right to own ladders either
30 people were killed and it wasn’t over a weekend in Chicago...
I do have a right to own guns though.
Damn, guess I'll just have to duct tape two regular magazines together. Sucks that I'll have to spend a few extra seconds to pop off the additional rounds. Oh well, have fun in your bait thread.
Pussy
Let's ban cars too. Force everyone to take public transit, regardless of their living in an area where public transit isn't relevant.
Think of all the people that die from car crashes. PEOPLE WILL DIE. CHILDREN DIE EVERY DAY!
You’re on to something user...oh sorry the green new deal beat you to it
SCOTUS operates on legal precedent and the legal precedent is there. You sure you want to bet they won’t operate on legal precedents in the future or would you be willing to keep your magazines but with a common sense compromise?
Pussy? Why would I stay in your bait thread that is autistically focusing on ONE subject? You have to do a book report for your high school debate class on this exact issue?
No, just ban them with immediate confiscation...any semi auto firearm. Please just do that.
Haha, I’m a 46 year old boomer. I ain’t wrote a book report in fuck all years
Yes, it’s on how to be fuck all American who doesn’t know that the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness is more important than your high capacity magazine. May I use you as a reference?
I capitulate, bait thread...
Studies show you’d likely panic under pressure but whatever makes your wet dream come true ammosexual
"Common sense compromise"
Fuck that. Today's "compromise" is tomorrow's loophole. See "Gun show loophole". Not to mention, that we never should compromise on rights.
How about a common sense compromise on illegal search? I mean, you look pretty shady motherfucker.
Or a common sense compromise on free speech? You're probably saying some mean things about Big Orange. Think of the good of the country, it's a tough job.
Exactly
Pussy
If you ban high capacity magazines, criminals will just use duct tape
Also, here's how it would go - We'd limit to 10 rounds in rifles and pistols, then it would do jack shit, then it would be "We didn't do enough gais!" and push for more.
There is almost no evidence that *any* gun bans do anything for overall crime rates.
We can just look at the UK and their POINTY KNIFE BAN to see what that road leads down.
We just need some common sense bike wheel laws
You think you have a right to HCM’s?
You don’t. If there was ever a loophole you should be talking about the sunset clause within the 1994 Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act. Magazine ownership is NOT a right.
Ya think? What if we outlaw abortion, they’ll just use coat hangars.
First, I never asserted it was a right. I asserted it the following :
1) It would be a terrible idea to push it with the current political climate, both with the voting bases and with the current SCOTUS
2) That AWB cost the Democrats 10 years of political capital. You're a fucking idiot if you think it was worth it.
I prefer the falcon punch
Thats a DNR regulation tied to conservation and specific to an activity, not a general limit on capacity.
If it were up to me I’d say limit capacity to the standards of hunting regulations. You don’t seem to have a problem with those do you?
First, I hunt with a compound bow, so I don't care about the limitations for hunting.
Second, 2A has nothing to do with hunting. So I don't really care what limits there are for hunting capacity. It's like suggesting we should only have guns for 2 months a year because hunting.
I do think you’re on to something with your approach to conservation. Suppose we consider conservation of human life as meaning you don’t need a 30 round magazine for anything.
you guys are missing the real issue; where shall trannies pee? please, think of the children!
so when are you planning your mass shooting?
You don't really need a right to privacy. If you're not doing anything bad, you don't need to hide anything from the government.
I have a right to privacy, I don’t have a right to high capacity magazines. Is it really that difficult to comprehend or are you just being this obtuse?
It's time we took a stand against bicycle wheels! For every bicycle in America today, there are at least two wheels! Well I say no more! From this day forward, unicycles shall replace bicycles!
Why not ban ammo while you're at it
You DO realize that shooters can carry more than one mag and with practice a fresh mag can be loaded in a few seconds. A high capacity mag ban does nothing but appease the ignorant masses for a time, and soon they'll be demanding more regulations. Gun-ignorant idiots in this country who think no one will ever threaten them and the cops are always seconds away will never be satisfied until guns are banned and we're all easy prey for criminals and a more oppressive government. Speaking as someone who's actually had a violent fuckwit break into my house and threaten my life I can only hope something similar would happen to every anti gunner so maybe they would wake the fuck up.
What’s a high capacity magazine? Asking for a friend on the federal bench.
We actually need to ban niggers and spics and you find our gun violence percentage would drop to almost 0%
a magazine with high capacity
learn the difference.
If we just arm the children going into bathrooms with firearms, then there won't be a tranny problem
Although the statutory definitions vary, magazines with a capacity of more than 10 rounds of ammunition are generally considered “large capacity” magazines.
But as a well informed, law abiding citizen and gun owner you knew that already didn’t you? Try harder to be more coy
that doesn't make sense. if we give all the children dicks. the only thing that can stop a tranny with a dick is a child with a dick. that's a fact.
It's currently being disputed actually. California's mag ban was ruled unconstitutional, Colorado's ban is being fought as well. 30+ sheriffs in CO have written in support of the ban being struck down.
Like people don't screw this up enough already. What's next, speed up your computer by deleting system32?
If they can reload that fast then why the need for 30 round magazines? You shouldn’t have a problem with a 10 round magazine then. Here’s the answer you’re being willfully ignorant to...most mass shooters employ high capacity magazines.
How can anyone (besides fags and women) want to ban semiauto rifles? They're fucking awesome. If a few hundred people have to die to keep them, so be it. It's worth it. Having that level of firepower at your disposal is handy, especially if you live in or near a rough area.
that's ok, guns don't stop fire.
No such thing as guns. Guns are just tools.
30 round or 300, China will still get you with the virus.
They did after adam lanza supposedly shot up the school. You're a dumbass and not even from the US probably.
Please do, please show me where you have a right to own high capacity magazines. I’d wait but you can’t.
there are no such things as mass shootings. there we solved it.
Bullshit. I know for a fact that #1 is “board with nails in it”.
Welcome in Alex Jones
No they didn't that never happened. Understand that guns don't even come close to reaching that threshold. Chemical weapons maybe
in that bit that says shall not be infringed fgt loser.
literally buying an uzi with "high capacity" clips tomorrow bitch boy, fuck you gonna do about it?
Apparently you are wrong because I live in a blue state and I could still go to a sporting goods store tomorrow and buy as many as I want. I don't have that many because they can be awkward at the range.
The purpose of the 2nd amendment was to ensure that the average American could be well armed enough to belong to a militia. The AR-15 is the equivalent to the M4 of the military, therefore it is the standard weapon a militia member should carry. Banning it would be an obvious infringement of the Amendment.
The Hughes amendment is also unconstitutional bullshit.
kill yourself
Please show me where you have the right to free speech outside of soapboxes and letters. Show me where you have a right against unlawful searches and seizures outside of your home.
Context matters retard.
define: "high capacity"
there is none, its a moving goalpost designed to sound good but give them the means to define it anyway they choose.
Ok. Death penalty for possession. Still worth it? Seems reasonable. If you possess a weapon as entertainment that puts others lives at extreme risk, then expect others to be just as cavalier with yours.
Wasnt black science man screeching about assault rifles on twitter no more than a couple years ago
But what about reach-arounds to bump the stock of extra high capacity magazine clips?
Ok Hitler
Did black science man really say something off the agenda?
More than 1,000 rounds in a belt
>The right wing agenda
>kill all the Americans
>be true patriot
>kek and lol and things
I don't think so, he seems pretty rational with the latest ones
>belt
kek.
Clearly we need to ban everything back to the days of the late 1800's!!!
Oh wait... shit.
I mean, you can get a belt-fed upper for an AR-platform. Not exactly practical, but they exist
But you don’t have a right to own high capacity magazines. You’re dumber than the fucking ladder you attempted to use as an example
Sorry, magazines of any type are not a right.
Whatever device that might hold ammunition is not a right? That's a new one.
>+1 for originality
the only thing that stops a bad guy with a boner is a good guy with a boner.
Throw in some napalm rounds and you have a sale, Mr. Gunshow Man!
Someone failed civics. kek
Lol u dumb
Two boners do not make a right, they make an alt-right
Then you don't have a right to free speech or unlawful searches and seizures on any technologies invented after 1776. Retard.
Where is my own personal motherfucking F22? I need to prevent tyranny by having a viable weapon to oppose the US Military, and Im not sure my AR15 can go head to head with a nuclear submarine.
>But you don’t have a right to own high capacity magazines.
And you dont have a right to buy gas for your car. Or for that matter you dont have a right to own your car!
You should call 99% of the sporting goods stores and 100% of the gun stores in the US and tell them; apparently you know more than they do.
we need boner control in this country.
A magazine of high capacity
Yeah let's ban the part of the gun that's easiest to make in a 3d printer
Most niggers will do just that.
>What is asymmetric warfare
Retard
>A magazine of high capacity
Should we assume "high" means "more than one"?
lol, you just proved the point.
"high" is not numerical and thus wide open for definition.
You’ll need the JDAM attachment for your AR.
Nope
100 round drum mags are a god given right
Kys
Gibs me boners
I want a drone.
www.firequest.com/NL910.html
www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/receiver-parts/receivers/upper-receivers/mcr-belt-fed-upper-receiver-full-auto-prod86794.aspx
lets call it $4k
kek
Defends self with 3D printed magazine. You deserve to die in a gunfight
It's marines with bigger right fists than left because they spend all their time in basic training beating off
everyone has rights to have boners, and viagra is a human right. think of the children.
Ahem, I think u mean FLEET of nuclear submarines, user. I don’t piss away national economies worth of taxes on unlimited nondiscretionary budgets for endless outdated defense projects only to have my ego minimized by the likes of you, user.
“God given” kek
Yes they are. You're dumb.
I'll just shoot them out of the back door of my house in San Bernadino. Nothing out there but brush, shouldn't cause a problem.
One of them was a registered Democrat and member of antifa. 2/10 for making me post in this bait thread.
No they’re not, you dummer
The children are off punching Nazis, and getting strip searched by the NSA for bullying
>this is what Americans spend on each brand new jet to fight in 1980s dogfights that don’t happen anymore
No wonder your kids are uneducated and half your country can’t see a doctor lol. What a backward shithole.
I don't have to support my right to ownership. It's my right. Plain and simple. I've never murdered anyone with it. Only way I would is if they tried to murder me or my family. Fuck off.
The generals wanted it it.
The aircraft companies wanted it.
Last gasp of the military industrial complex before nanites.
Hi Ivan, did you check your EXIF data?
If you don't want a second amendment fine, don't complain when the rest disappear and you become a slave. Trust me dark times are on the horizon and I will sooner be a dead man than be under the heel of the jack boot.
this is what the founding fathers wanted. mass shootings are a god given right.
Uh-uh. You dumbest
>Assault weapons
>High capacity magazines
Gtfo fucking cluebag.
Amerinigger detected
That is what bait looks like. Study it, and you'll soon recognize.
Cali could use a purge anyway
Not him but who is going to come and take them? The US military who couldn't disarm Vietnamese farmers with antique rifles and currently can't disarm Afghani farmers with antique rifles? Would it be the police? The same police and sheriff departments who are constantly complaining about over-work and can't stop people from taking shits and shooting heroin in the streets?
Talk to the magical negro astronomer about your priorities
>t. eurotrash who doesn't know shit about how this country functions other than going based off of autistic memes
vs 879,000 abortions in 2017 and guns are the problem? abort73.com
>be me
>know what’s coming this century
>you get no troops on street corners
>no paramilitary fatso civvy cops on the beat
>all your guns, stockpiles of arms great and small
>useless
>bc all your troopz and all your cops and all your civilians alike, will all die in beds instead
>bc the first sign of real political instability
>the weapon is dispersed from asia
>bc this is 2019, not 1942.
We need to protect the Nazis from the violent children! Children are thugs, MS13, and 911.
VIAGRA FOR NAZIS! VIAGRA FOR NAZIS! VIAGRA FOR NAZIS!
it says i can bear arms, not what kind or what i have to do to be allowed.
it doesnt say i have the right to apply for a licence. i dont need one.
i have the right to bear arms
any kind i want
>When people think the government could beat its populace in a war
Look at Iraq, Afghanistan, Vietnam....Now add a shitload more guns and ammo on the defendants side. Not a chance lads, not a chance
Agreed. Too many dumb white landowners holding red districts. Need a night of the long knives, slit the throats of the ruling class and replace them all with individuals more amenable to the new culture..
Homicide and assault are different things bud
I thought you Libtards were against the death penalty...Oh wait, nvm. You are only for the death penalty for those that disagree with you politically. Of course, double standards and violence are a never-ending character of the modern libtard.
wat
Take your gay shit back to /pol/
Abortions aren't murder retard. Neither should be regulated. Guns and abortions for all. Crack and plastic straws for all. Gay rights and business autonomy rights for all.
Fuck the government.
I think he's trying to say bioweapons
>potential humans prevented from being born
>same as
>actual humans fully born and mature murdered
Never jerk off or let a woman have her period without fertilizing her egg user, ever sanitary napkin holds more human casualties in jesus’ holy race war for his chosen people. ...no not jews, uneducated rural whites.
deaths by assault are homicides. all homicides are assaults, but, you are correct, not all assaults are homicides. but, seeing that the report is on gun related deaths....
Did someone say “bioweapons”?
kek... not saying the are the same, but , for arguments sake, let's say an abortion = 1/10th of a murder. still a 9 to 1 ratio
They probably are. You assume incorrectly. I am a Republican, Catholic, Veteran, your quaint 1996 mainstream media caricature is weak.
We need to a build, to stop the influx of criminal children and their anchor babies
>build a wall
Eurocuck detected
Say whatever you want, but if I decide to jizz in my girlfriend tonight, and then change my mind and don’t knock her up after all and she flushed the egg down the toilet, I still willfully prevented that paid from being born when I changed my mind, & under your dumbass definition, that’s still murder.
Probably. Accomplishing nothing is a good way to spend your time when your time is worthless because your life has no value.
Fucking cunt autocorrect eat shit
First of all, you don't have a gf.
Argument invalid.
This seems like a gotcha answer. Of course whatever capacity the magazine holds is its standard, what they’re saying is that if a magazine holds a fuckload of bullets they want to ban them. I’m not saying I agree with them, but they’re talking about shit like pic related. Obviously that clip is not the only clip that’s compatible with that gun.
Obviously that clip is not the only clip that’s compatible with that gun
>>CLIP
>>CLIP
It's a magazine! NOT a clip, you stupid cunt!
>holds a fuckload of bullets
>bullets
Rounds you inbred
Ok, let's assume that you're bullshit is actually true. Why in the fuck are you anti-2nd Amendment then if you aren't a soccer mommy, nanny, liberal? You must live in a shithole nanny fag state like New Jersy or something? If you really are republican AND a veteran, then why the fuck are you a totalitarian cunt?
Some vets are retarded man. I was USMC for 4 years and its insane how many service members don't know shit about weapons. Dude was probably some POG who couldn't put his bolt in right if his life depended on it.
Oorah waterdog
This is obviously bait, but I’ll go ahead and take it. People on both sides of this issue are either disingenuous or completely retarded. Pro-gun people like to point to the sorts of laws that OP is facetiously calling for and and harp on how they’re completely ineffective. They laugh at things like gun free zones and “assault weapon”/bump stock/ magazine bans and point to places in America with strict gun regulations that still have high rates of shooting deaths and says that gun control is pointless. They’re not entirely wrong, THOSE solutions are stupid and inneffective. No amount of city/statewide gun control laws are going to make any difference as long as you can easily drive a few hours to the next state and buy a gun (or find someone to do it for you). It’s either got to be all or nothing. Generally speaking, COUNTRIES that don’t allow guns have far fewer mass shootings than the US. It doesn’t mean gun crime is non-existent, and I’d personally argue that twitter doesn’t mean their citizens are necessarily better off for it, but mass shootings generally are not a problem.
Same goes for people on the left. They argue for restrictions that would ultimately do nothing to solve the problem, but they are so in love with the idea of gun regulation that they refuse to even consider solutions that don’t involve repealing the second amendment. I think both sides would agree that SOMETHING needs to be done about America’s mass shooting problem, but they’re so unwilling to hear one another out that ultimately we just keep on doing nothing. It’s tribalism and it’s stupid and the American people are paying the price for it.
You
>It’s not called POKEMAN, mom! it’s POKÉMON
this is you. This is what you sound like.
Just wanted to point out that you don't even need a bump-fire stock to simulate full automatic firing. Not even a wooden dowel. Stiff wrist and trigger finger, but your accuracy goes to dog shit and you're simply wasting ammunition at that point.
>Thats a cat
>no user its a dog
>THEY"RE BOTH FURRY AND HAVE 4 LEGS REEEE
This is you. This is what you sound like.
>explain how criminals will follow new laws
They won’t, but if you were to outlaw guns entirely, in the long run it will make them more difficult to acquire, and this is demonstrably true if you look at the rates of gun related fatalities in countries that have outlawed guns outright. Part of the issue here is just how absurdly easy it is to purchase a firearm in this country, legally or illegally. This is because gun manufacturing is a huge business here. People often cite statistics that there are as many guns in the US as there are people, and while I can’t conform the validity of that statement, the sentiment is true enough. There are a lot of fucking guns be manufactured here, and that is because there is a high demand for them. If the US were to outlaw privately owned firearms, that demand would drop dramatically. Smith & Wesson isn’t selling to gang bangers and drug dealers and other criminals directly, those people are simply exploiting the fact that you can easily find guns here. But if the government were to outlaw iPads, Apple wouldn’t keep making them. You’d be able to find old iPads, but they would become a lot more rare and a hell of a lot more expensive 20 years from now. Same goes with firearms.
Like anywhere else in the world, there would still be people who could find them, but it would be a lot more difficult. And that only goes for traditional criminals. Mass shooter overwhelmingly tend to be people who either acquired their guns legally or (in cases like Sandy Hook and Columbine) got them from someone who did. People like Harris and Klebold and Adam Lanza are not the kind of people who are acquainted with the criminal underground, and the people who are tend not to be the people shooting up schools.
Problem is, in the short term, there’s still a hell of a lot of guns out there. If they were to outlaw guns entirely then law abiding citizens would be at a huge disadvantage for a long time.
imagine being this inbred.
Smoothbrain
Not really. Using the wrong term in the previous instance doesn’t change the sentiment of the statement. Your argument is purely about semantics, not the ideas being presented.
...right. Lets just call cars trucks, positive negative, and left right. Terminology matters, and anons lack of familiarity with even basic firearm terminology betrays his ignorance
Please explain to me how my rifle and 30 round magazines "put others lives at extreme risk".
Thank you for serving, freedom-fighting chad!
I mean, that’s fine, I acknowledge the fact that I used the wrong term. But a magazine by any other name would still hold rounds
While this statement is true, you are still using very incorrect terminology. If you even want to sound slightly intelligent at all, and you want BOTH sides to take you fucking seriously, then use the proper terminology. Not only that, but you may even learn more new things about firearms that you feel will either support your current argument or, dare I say it, change your view on them. Knowledge is always beneficial, user.
Indeed it would, fren
Lol fuck off with that shit XD
>>But a magazine by any other name would still hold rounds
You are correct, yes, but they are still completely different means of containing cartridges. See the pic? That is a clip.
I think all citizens should have access to the nuclear arsenal. If one of us thinks it must be used, then we use it.
Sorry, m8. I went full retard and forgot to post pic
This pic, is that of a magazine. I'm not the one you responded to, but I'm just trying to inform you is all. I mean, if I were making an argument in the subject of global warming, for example, I would want to be sure that I was familiar with all terms, scientific findings, etc to feel like I can make a valid argument or not. That's just me though.
I mean, my original point wasn’t that I think any should or should not be banned. To be clear, I’m not even anti-second amendment. I was just pointing out that the spirit of the argument the guy was trying to make wasn't invalidated simply by arguing semantics.
I wish people would show all the truths with gun violence. Not just some shitty graph trying to show how bad it is or how only white extremists commit mass shootings. It's all total bullshit. They should just give everybody a gun and then kill anyone who uses it for anything but self defense; I bet it would weed out a lot of shit heads or stop shooters before they could get a messy. I personally don't feel safe without a loaded gun on me.
Call it the American Eugenics Program (AEP) #tooliberal4u
Send bachelors
I mean, there’s anecdotal evidence to support that that might not be a crazy idea. There’s a town in Georgia that required every household to own a firearm and burglaries went plunges to almost non-existent levels. But that’s not EXACTLY the same thing as you’re proposing. It would also mean that every crazy person in America would own a gun. Every suicidally depressed person, every bi-polar person with severe mania, every person with uncontrollable anger issues, every black person. I feel like there would be a lot of unintended consequences and we’d have no way of knowing if the pros outweighed the cons until we tried it out, and by then it would be too late.
>every black person
I jek’d
Yeah, idk what to do, but all the violence really hurts me deep down and it's like a fucking game to news channels. Everything fucking sucks, I am just going to live my life in peace, let everyone else deal with the bullshit. I am powerless over it.