Why exactly should we wait to do away with guns in the US? Why don't we just take them...

I have a fucking CNC newfag.

There have actually have been 534 MASS SCHOOL SHOOTINGS since January 1th, 2019!
The media is UNDERreporting this!
WE MUST DISARM all assault weapons from the people AND the police. (Remember, A.R. 15 stand for "Assault Rifle, model number fifteen).
These monstrous weapons of WAR can pump 500,037 rounds per second. THAT'S A HALF A MILLION BULLETS TEARING THROUGH CHILDREN EVER SECOND!!!!)
Who cares if you have to take your finger off the trigger occasionally?
Those children are still DEAD weather it's 500,037 or 500,036 shots in a second.
The danger is, just, TOO GREAT!
The NRA and Trump's CRONIES would rather see CHILDREN DIE as long as it don't cut into their profits to do so.
But if you disagree with this truth, then YOU OBVIOUSLY DON'T CARE ABOUT THE LIVES OF THE INNOCENT CHILDREN, OUR FUTURE, OUR MOST PRECIOUS RESOURCE, AND THAT'S A DAMN BOLD POSITION TO TAKE?!

why get stupid we outnumber rednecks wtf

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K. In 25 years? You won't.

>inb4 some ameritard says
>buh muh tyrannical gubmint
>uh need muh peashooter against drones and tanks

There's like 300,000,000 guns in the US, less than 20% are registered. You're talking like it would take a couple weeks, it would take a couple decades of us not being able to protect ourselves in a country with a serious gang problem. The US isn't a European country, it's larger than the entire EU in both area and population.

You're going to have to find out why people are doing this and do something about it, that's probably what's going to end up happening simply because it would cost thousands of times less. Meanwhile it would probably be through social programs, the fact you don't want to spend a dollar to help mentally fucked up white people and would rather spend a 100 dollars to take their guns... despite having all these other social programs. It's fairly telling what your intent is. You don't want an end to the troubles, you want disarmament because you're an authoritarian in favor of authoritarian government. In my state there are laws about what dog you can adopt, what you can carry your groceries home in, what kind of drinking straw you get when you go out to eat. They're just going to keep regulating every aspect of life until they smother every other subculture out of existence like a wisteria bush kills a stand of trees.

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The point isn't that you can win pitched battles against a professional army with all its ordnance, as a rag-tag citizens' militia with small arms. The point is that you CAN FIGHT. You can bleed them. When they come patrolling through your neighborhood, you might be able to take a couple of the fuckers with you. Hell, you might even be able to run away and do it again; they couldn't engage in endless "manhunts" for everyone who resisted them. They'd never feel safe and there could be shooters behind any window.

Of course, they COULD call in the artillery and air-support and level your neighborhood, sure. What would this get them though? Well, it would piss a lot of people off when innocents died and play into the hands of rebels. It would make a lot of the soldiers in that professional military seriously consider whether they were doing the right thing or not. Finally, it would simply kill people, and NO ONE wants to rule a nation of corpses.

The aim of a tyrant is to control, not to kill. What they want is to be able to have militarized police & gestapo point guns at people and cow them into submission to whatever dictates they want to impose. If citizens are instead waiting behind their doors and ready to shoot first when the jackbooted thugs come around, they've already failed.

So, the point is to fight. If you resist, you're not being controlled, and you're also undermining attempts to control others who can't or won't fight. Yes, you might die, of course. However, that's why Patrick Henry said what he famously said, more or less.

"As long as people can resist, they can be free, and tyrants can never succeed." When you're talking about using swords, knives and clubs against modern military weapons though, it ACTUALLY becomes pointless, because you can't bleed them at all. They'll just shoot you with beanbags, rubber, water cannons, microwave guns and other submission devices.

That's why Americans having guns is so important.

>gazillion guns
Bull fucking shit

LOL. Not sure if you are trolling or retarded.

Whose is “we?”
Let me share something with you. 90 percent of the US military is Republican / Conservative...doesn’t matter what color or gender they are...soldiers, airmen, sailors, guardsmen...they all, for the most part, are very patriotic and anti-liberal. So are most of their families. Add American law enforcement (local, city, state and federal agencies) ...also Republican/ Conservative as are their families. Now, let’s throw in all the Red States with those citizens fiercely protective of their guns.

Seriously, even IF the Democratics controlled the House and Senate and Presidency....the military and law enforcement wouldn’t allow those Liberals the opportunity to tear the country apart.

keep dreaming.

Simple answer. Would you rather have acid thrown in your face or be stabbed or risk being shot?

IMO, I'd pick the latter.

>my assertions are automatically truthier than yours

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_Geopolitics

>Russia should use its special services within the borders of the United States to fuel instability and separatism, for instance, provoke "Afro-American racists". Russia should "introduce geopolitical disorder into internal American activity, encouraging all kinds of separatism and ethnic, social and racial conflicts, actively supporting all dissident movements – extremist, racist, and sectarian groups, thus destabilizing internal political processes in the U.S. It would also make sense simultaneously to support isolationist tendencies in American politics"

If you're serious you can come take mine tonight, and you'll never have to worry about them again.

this is true

>disregards the massive loss of life by trying to take rights away from the public
>only people left are uncaught criminals and unarmed, law abiding itizens
You deserve neither security nor liberty if you would do this.

He's a drunk Russian.

Just like the illegal drugs! Am I right brother!

What kind of gun did he use sempai?

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Please try, please.

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393,347,000 as of 2017. So almost a hundred million more than I originally said.

They're not gonna use that stuff, asking the military to attack a population it's conscripted from is a huge risk, doing it in a country where distrust of the government is a widely shared sentiment and it turns into a HUGE fucking risk. This is why the police have been buying all this military gear when their individual department can afford it, martial law has never been declared in the US and it would take a lot to make that happen. Again, this a geographic area of 9.8 million km^2, just establishing martial law would take weeks.

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Fuck off shill. No one is buying your shit

come take em yourself then faggot

>he said into the mirror
Don't try take people's rights jackass.

Dude you'd fucking crumble like a tiny porcelain faggot

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Lets kiss

No, I'll wait until you get fucked and lose your second cock collection

>unironically thinking that the 100 million+ gun owners would not absolutely demolish the military or police force that they outnumber 10-20:1

America doesn't have a gun problem. It has a non-white problem.

Such a waste of trips. Don't you have a fat Republican sausage to suck

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Ok ready

Have fun getting run over by a bus nigger.

Close your eyes and count 4 years and start sobbing

So whyd you go with the nose ring anyway

I know right Trump ain't gonna do shit next go round

All the big mass shooters were raised by single mothers, ban single mothers.

Because your grandmother's last words were "get your nose pierced before you eat my asshole again". I'll never forget

theres more guns than people in the usa
i think something like 30% of households have a gun in them
even if 1% of gun owners decide "nah fark off", grabtoddlers are fucked

I was there you moron. Anyways you gonna come shove this AK up my ass or are you all talk?

Sorry it's hard to remember. That bitch fucked so many guys

Ex Post Facto

And you

Correct. Now she's fucking the big black dick in the sky.

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Quit making me hard and come pull this trigger

As soon as the government starts trying to openly attack civilians 90% of the military will quit on the spot.

The government could take weapons from citizens in 24 hours if they wished to do so.

Of course your grandmother sucking black dick turns you on. You are Republican.

Not a chance U.S gun owners outnumber the government like 250 to 1

I knew you were all talk you fucking tease

Bullshit

>reeling

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I’m beyond shit threads like this.

Dude. Are you really this new? Guns are illegal in Mexico, and guess what? There's a huge black market for illegal guns there. If you magically got rid of 400 million firearms in the USA, they would be shipped in from all over the world and Americans would just own unregistered illegal guns.

Well OP is stupid.

Awww. Are guns scary?

>because criminals won't care about a ban on guns and will acquire them illegally

Then we tighten regulations regarding smuggling, and increase the penalties for buying a gun on the open market. Boom. Done.

Ok, I'll play along. How would they do this in 24 hours? You have to collect 400 million guns, and quite a few have been sold without paperwork to friends and family, and some have been handed down from deceased grandfathers. In other words, untraceable.
Go.

They kill too many innocent people and certain firearms need to be restricted.

We can either do this like the Democrats and introduce sensible legislation based on representative democracy, or we can do it Trump's way and ban firearms outright as a hollow gesture that won't be enforced.

Rewards will be offered for anonymous tips where these guns are located. Boom. Done.

Yourself is an inbred fucknut eh m8

They already are. Automatic weapons as well as high explosives are illegal to own without a hard ass permit

AR-15s need to be next. If you really want to fire one, you can pony up for the permit. That's where we're at.

You’ve seen how Chicago is right? It’s a shithole because the law abiding citizens don’t own guns. It doesn’t help. Guns save way more lives rather than take them away. You’d only increase the loss of innocent lives. Or worse case scenario get mugged by someone beating your head in with a crowbar or a knife between your ribs. People will use anything to commit crimes. Taking guns away is what the criminals want

Hey, retard, there are over 10 million LEGALLY owned guns in our country, along with over a trillion rounds of ammunition... BELIEVE ME WHEN I SAY: If we were the problem, you would fucking know about it.

Gun control nuts don't care about facts
AR-15s aren't remotely powerful. Morons are tricked into thinking they are because of how they look. That's exactly why gun control always fails in the US; only waterheaded retards support it

>Guns save way more lives
no they don't gun nut

go ask an american soldier or police officer if the would enforce a confiscation.

Who is taking these guns by force?

The faggots who cried when trump won?

The military who are a bunch of sheep and/or gun owners.

The police? These are the same folks who will shoot your dog when they're scared.

Because the people you are trying to take them from have guns. Think about that for a second.

>AR-15s aren't remotely powerful
They're "remotely powerful" enough to be used in a number of mass shootings and need to be seriously regulated.
why gun control always fails in the US;
Because the NRA has key members of Congress by the balls user

If ur gonna make guns illegal, you will have problems with PoC. But I won't move to your shithole.

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You are really retarded holy shit. I thought this was b8. You’re a bonafide trump hating dick sucking pocohantas loving retard.

They actually do. Do some simple research

And? You think in 24 hours the government is going to be able to follow up on hundreds of millions of anonymous tips? Have you seen the average American police officer? It takes three of them to write a traffic ticket. It would take the entire local force to disarm one citizen. The first time a couple of them get lit up, half the force will walk off the job. You fail in your 24 hour quest.

You really believe your own bullshit don't you. You really don't believe in drones

What we need is some fucker to shoot up a school with an m1 garand and a trench gun to show that you can kill as many people if not more without an armalite rifle

what color is the sky in the little world you live in?

Many of us own unregistered gun right now. Anyone care to guess why? Go ahead and ban away, faggots.

Actually, the FBI stats say that guns are used to prevent crimes about equally as they are used in the commission of crimes. You just NEVER hear about that on the local news, cause it doesn't fit their narrative.

come live in the south with the millions of nogs and you will carry a gun too..

Conspiracy trumptard detected

lol

suddenly 100 million drones are launched that will inspect every home, bust into it, and use robot arms to take the guns?

Your claiming the gov will use drones to collect everyone's firearms? And if we don't comply they'll just blast us with drones? Are you aware that legal gun owners are the main economic contributers in the city you live in? They own banks, firms, construction companies etc. You think the gov is going to just kill all of it's highest tax payers? Who is going to pay for welfare then? You have no grasp of the real world.

T. Has never bothered to read FBI stats on crime. Got it.

Guns are for wankers

Probably closer to 50/50, but it hardly matters.

Possessing a large well equipped armed forces is one thing. Being willing to and capable of bringing it to bear against your entire citizenry to good effect is another altogether.

OP is truly a faggot.

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Hey you asked. I hope your own kids turn you in.

No they don't. You are repeating a myth, as gun culture is a myth. Guns are dangerous weapons that should not be romanticized any more. That's why mass shootings are on the increase.

Then fund the program adequately. A trillion would be a good start.

>because Jews keep the truth from us

just say it

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You asked user. A trillion dollar budget would staff the project adequately. You just don't want it to happen.

You're why Trump is going to lose...

Hmm most drugs are banned, I guess people cant acquire those either, wait, being illegal doesn't mean people can't get ahold of em

You’re wrong.

You sound an awful lot like a man who hasn't paid attention to how horrible the war on terror is going for the US

>the left: Trump is the most despotic president ever! We must use everything in our power to remove him from office! Even if it means a revolution!

>also the left: Silly republicans, you don't need guns when the government is here to protect you!

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nice overused bait, try harder next time

Why take away a freedom and a right from law abiding citizens because whacko parents are fucking up their kids? Guns have been around forever. Not until recently have mass shootings become a common occurance. It's this generation of kids getting fucked in the head by liberal ideals. Fix your fucking kids and stop blaming the guns!

Guns save an estimated 2 million lives each year

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The Dayton Shooter Was A Satanist, Leftist-Socialist, And Bernie/Warren Fan, Supported Antifa
redstate.com/bonchie/2019/08/04/dayton-shooter-leftist-elizabeth-warren-fan/
(Part of the left)

The garlic shooter was Iranian,Italian and had just posted in remembrance of his grandfather a shia extremist in full Muslim garb “Ali Asgar Vahabzdeh”. He also recently refered to white people as “twats”.
(Part of the left?)

The Walmart shooter was a registered democrat, Hardcore Progressive and White suprimist: who wanted Universal Income And Universal Healthcare
(Part of the left)
foxnews.com/politics/democratic-party-fundraises-off-mass-shootings

nah dude, the drones will have mind control laser beams on them, and they'll make all the rednecks put the guns in a pile so the alien UFOs can vaporize them, its gonna be great.

This post is what retardation looks like when it gets infected.

It's about keeping the perception of freedom alive. If America takes away it's peoples guns it's basically throwing away it's founding ideas. Taking guns away at this point would send a message that the government is unrestricted and is not what it labels itself as. This would breed distrust of the government at such a widespread and rapid pace that it's people will go against it any way they can whenever they feel injustice or exclusion. Could be wrong but fucking hell m8 gotta take a stance on shit somewhere. I'd rather guns be legal just because they've become so centralized to out culture, and because fucked up people will still kill with inventive methods. you don't need guns to kill millions when anything can be used for murder.

If you believe that ridiculous NRA lie, you're the ultimate cuck.

Three flavors of nutjobs who should never had access to weapons of any kind, even knives.

You're getting the copypasta.

You cannot put the gun genie back in the bottle. Guns are thousand-year-old technology; the equivalent would be suppressing the windmill or the mechanical loom. Any halfwit with access to a machine shop can bang out a functional firearm. Afghani goatherds regularly service and repair "modern" automatic rifles with iron age tools and a charcoal fire. There are enough guns in civilian hands in the US - let alone government bodies - to arm every single man, woman, and child in the nation with enough left over to issue sidearms to the kiddies.

I'm all for reform, but eradication is a hilarious dream.

Why is this such a hard concept for people to understand

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I'm beyond giving a fuck about your feelings. Don't like it? Move to Europe faggot.

its retarded for cuckservatives to think they can fend ofnthe us military eith shitty m4s. so the excuse to protect againts a tyrannical goverment exucuse is retarded. unless you go full ancap who actually beleive in private tanks and nukes you know the stuff actually nessary to fend of govement.

but libtards are libtards if they think it will create a better situation by banning self defense. so even if they don't like ot or not they guns have to be kept at some level even if level is ridiculously low..

as a right wing extremist. srry cuckservatards go ancap or go liberal.

the walmart shooter was a facist.
srry kiddo but if you're gonna claim nationalism is right wing then he is right wing.

btw you can support healthcare and be right wing it's call nationalist socialism.

as a rigt winger myself. im tired of nationalist admitting to race as the true essense of nationalism

You're more than welcomed to come after mine... one round at a time in your empty incel skull.

What do you mean, we? It's not like pussies like you would be doing any of it.

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>hurR DuRR bAsEd 1800's QuOtE nOt An ArgUMeNt

>I am beyond giving a fuck
>still gave enough of a fuck to shitpost this shitty thread

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Gun control didn't work out so well in California.
:^)

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yeah thats retarded good luck with your shitty m4bmalatia againts the army with tanks and nukes. either join the anarchist capitalist who want private armies and private nukes or sit in line with the libtards.

Neither installing a "No Firearms Allowed" policy at El Paso's Walmart, nor the strict gun measures placed in Chicago, IL, Detroit, MI, since all the gang bullshit that goes on daily.
Love the part where everybody is ignoring the Virginia Tech shooting where Kim Jong Dung used two handguns and not a rifle, but apparently mainstream media didn't give enough shits about that, but the poor 46 individuals amirite ayyyy l m a o

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In 2017 drunk drivers killed 10 times more innocent people than psychopaths with rifles. If we really cared about saving innocent lives we would ban alcohol again.

>ban alcohol
Yeah, tried that already. A good plan, didn't work.

And yet people think banning rifles will stop mass shootings...

Exactly. Everybody realized that banning alcohol was a total shitshow. What makes people think the same for firearms will yield different results?

Who the fuck knows. At this point, I'd hand over my AR variant with a smile on my face if it was actually the solution to the problem.

As a society, we refuse to even talk about the hard fix: Economic opportunity, especially among at-risk youth. Community reinvestment in the marginal. The end of prohibition. Getting serious about domestic violence and abuse with a federal database and must-report laws. Denying firearms to the above, with access restored via due process emphasizing resolving the restriction. (This would impact 40% of law enforcement. Imagine whole swathes of departments that can't carry.) Actual research on the part of NIH as to the most effective methods of curtailing gun violence. Community building, esp among this clear demographic of "socially thirsty" marginalized young white males. Half these fuckers needed the Scouts. Refusal on the part of the citizenry and the media to hypersensationalize every single statistical blip in a nation of hundreds of millions. Teaching rational thought and reason as core to primary education. Stop fetishizing violence.

The list goes on -- all these social changes that make it such that we could have guns clogging the streets and we'd step right over them from lack of need or want. We just have no impetus toward correcting any of this. It doesn't stand between us and our daily lives, so we only muster care when something goes horrifically wrong. Even then it's only for a moment. Churchill nailed it -- Americans can be trusted to do the right thing after they've tried everything else.

Have something random.

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Nawl the military cucks would do as they are told. Spineless idiots

Most rednecks support gun control. The people you are going to have the hardest time with are ex-military, off duty military and ex-police. Next up would be mercenaries and private militia.

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pretty sure most would not follow such orders that involve shooting their own civilians, potentially own family and friends. Handful might, but usually those are the types that would enjoy war a little too much, if you know what I mean.

See, what that does, is drive up the price.
Suddenly, that 9mm handgun you were smuggling that was only worth a few hundred?
Now worth thousands.
It's like cocaine, not really worth much but the risk involved makes it highly valuable.
You only drive it deeper into the darkness, you can never destroy it.

Chair Force has a number of gung-ho dominionists, and I'm guessing a non-zero percentage of those think Trump is the second coming of Christ. Army has their share of animal torturers, but not whole units. Marines... I'd like to think their love of country would outweigh their devotion to the Corps. Navy would lol off into the sunset.

I don't support gun control, so I won't be participating in any gun bans.

Its funny you think you can take my gun.i have already shoved it up my ass..

SEPTEMBER 25, 2009
3,497 dead dogs and other numbers from Denver's pit bull ban
westword.com/news/3-497-dead-dogs-and-other-numbers-from-denvers-pit-bull-ban-5834767
That shit happened 10 years ago. Many of those dogs were like family to their owners. Do you idiots really think there would be anything that you could possibly do if the US federal government tried to take all of your guns by force?

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>Taking guns off the street in dribs and drabs

Yeh, nah. Not gonna work. My family was moving cattle from family plot to plot to hide them from the tax man in the 1750s. How much easier is it to move a pistol than fifteen cows?

It's like you think prohibition works.

You'd gag on the barrel of a .45 if you had one pointed t you. Get fuk'd bro

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We should make drugs ilegal to!

"It's like you think prohibition works.'

>Okay, lets take a look at the weapons on the TOR black market.

Where are all the satellite based star wars weapons?
The nukes?
The fighter jets loaded with missiles?
Tanks?
High yield explosives?
Grenades?
Select fire weapons?
Not even a useless silencer?

>Only legal weapons you could buy from a dealer without a tax stamp.

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