2 mass shootings in 14 hours

2 mass shootings in 14 hours.

The United States really is a shit hole and should probbaly stop existing. preferably voluntarily. Just break up the union and start over as a collection of separate countries.

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>Just break up the union and start over as a collection of separate countries.
Uhh..

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That's what the Confederacy wanted and could've possibly gotten had they not had such a hard on for keeping blacks in bondage

MURICA!!!!

Americans are literally the worst people in the world

The people who want that, are almost to a T the people who don’t want gun control...

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Some people, did something

And don't you forget it

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Can we have one without niggers?

Just ban automatic assault rifles, they dont need them

Happens daily in gun controlled Chicago but you only care when it's white people you racist faggot. Neck yourself.

Between those 2 mass shooting less people died than at the paris marathon massacre. Dude killed like 70 people with a fuuuuucking box truck. Plenty of ways to kill people but not to many to defend yourself with. France is building a wall, the English are enslaved though they don't seem to notice. Fuck the rest of the world. More good people with guns=less violence!!!

Agreed!!

>Automatic Assault Weapons

BUZZWORD BINGO!!!!!


They've been NFA class 3 for decades more hasn't stopped niggers in Chicago.

Irrelevant 3rd worlder confirmed

>usa shithole
>whole south american continent wants to get in

hhmmmmm

Chicago is 30 minutes from Indiana, which has very lax gun control laws. Easy money bringing those guns into poor black communities.

You really don't know history very well.

Eurocucks stunned to silence when you bring facts and logic into things

Whole world sucks .... Fucking every where

Honestly we need some sort of culling event. These mass shootings are not enough to do the job we need 2/3 of humans to fuck off the planet

This. There should be a IQ test involved and anyone who fails can go join the "Fun Camps" for life.

...

Now Billy, bad things happen in the real world. I understand that your balls recently dropped, but observe more and speak less.

But what if they don't want to die

What if your mom failed

nah, we are a great nation- so much so we actually report incidents of violence. because it is not the norm in white areas.

>Paris marathon massacre

Wtf are you on about

How is that going to solve the problem?

France isn't building a wall you muppet

Make it illegal to do that, then.
Oh, wait...

Guy in new Zealand got 51 two American shootings get less than half that. For fucks sake we gotta half ass everything

Some handguns are just as powerful. just think about it, Alot of Texans own weapons and the Texas shooter killed 20+ people before police captured him. There are to many cowards who refuse to use their gun for justice. It's like the weapon is just an accessory.

yeah pussy,we'll get right on that......

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France and england are building border walls. Google it.

a few things ...
1 - el paso....
dude was wearing ear protection!?
that indicates that he was concered about his hearing and he KNEW he would survive. He also surrendered to po without them firing a single shot - AKA WHITE PRIVILEGE.
2- ohio shoting, white shooter, balaclava , body armor & extra maga. then to do maximum damage , knew he wasnt coming back.


banning weapons now is moot. there are millions in the public's hands already.
the die has be cast, its now a waiting game to see how this civil war ends.

and it is a civil war. just because there isnt a flag and a uniforms to differentiate the two side (BTW, there are no sides) .
this is part of the thining of the population. its planned and is happening weather you agree or not.

Lol desperate projecting American, thinking Sharia law is in place in EU... We actually pitty you fools having no mental strength to deal with the world properly but by listening to the bed time stories of lunatics

Precisely zero mass shootings have been interrupted by a civilian with a gun.

So much for the more guns argument eh

Research it dude. It's posted in rekd threads constantly.

I have guns and like them. Went trap shooting yesterday (not that trap). I'm also a semi-normal adult who holds down a job and supports a family.

I want to keep my guns. I am responsible. There are some people who should not have guns. eg those who would use them to kill a ton of innocent non-combatants.

This is a shitty Sophie's choice. What's the answer? Just carry my guns all the time and ensure my family is trained (once old enough)? Eternal wartime staging? That's fucked.

Just waiting for the universe to chuck a large rock at this little pebble...

Dylann_Roof

get educated ...

why are there 5.56rounds by this AR when it's a pistol caliber build (little ejection port/no forward assist)?

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there is so much stupid in this thread... krazy to say that on Yea Forums

You are an idiot. Armed guards have stopped about 8 shooters from entering schools. Won't see it on our biased media though.

That's actually a dumb reason to argue a ban would not work. Would it be less effective the longer we wait to institute a ban? Yes. Would it take longer to eliminate those weapons? Yes. Is it better than doing abso-fucking-lutely nothing? Probably.

Don't worry, op. Soon, the entire world will be submerged in chaos. Then you'll have your chance to use your guns. You better be careful when Armageddon strikes! Listen for the sirens!

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You extrapolate the Calais port security fence into your full fledge useless border wall mate. France isn't sealing its borders to any neighboring country anytime soon, not even the Brexiters.
Fucking hot air balloon

agreed!
i have may guns, law mandates where I live to own one. I love my guns, i shoot competitively as well. I suck, but keep trying.
I also carry when Im out an about so IF this kind of thing were to go down, I have a fighting chance to survive or take said shooter down. I hope iit never happens, but if it does, im ready.

Why the fuck would England need to build a wall, to keep out the Welsh?

Neither is the united states sealing is border.

Dumb mudslimes ran into the bullets

I hear you brother. Do you have children? How do you ensure they're safe when not with you? I see the ages of some of these victims and it makes my blood boil. I'm all for 'sheepdogs' until we sort this shit out and carry daily, but worry.

you cant put the geinie back into the bottle.
but let dip a bit deeper into your theroy...
how do you propose a ban ? are you asking for everyone's "legal" purchased weapons too??? if yes, what about all the illegal weapons and criminals ??
no you have a portion of society unarmed and unable to defend themselves at all.

Lol there was no fucking Paris marathon massacre. There were only the Bataclan night and Charlie Hebdo that could remotely be associated to what you are trying to push, but it isn't even remotely as bad as in your fucking shithole.

To keep its people in. England has repeatedly barred citizens from leaving. Especially when they are trying to seek medical aid.

What is that border wall for ?

Alternative to bans/restrictions - somehow address the root cause (and I don't think it's mental illness) of alienation? How many shooters have been well-adjusted, loved people? How do we spread that sense of belonging that prevents this?

As shitty as it sounds, banning guns seems easier and faster, IMO. Sad as it may be.

It was ended by officers shooting the driver.

I do have kids, they are young and in elementary school. I cant protect them all the time and that bothers the shit out of me.
They have ballistic backpack inserts, thats makes me feel a bit better, but sad that that is what our world has come to.

It wasn't at a marathon you retard, neither was it it Paris. It happened during Bastille Day. A huge crowd gathered to see the fireworks in Nice, on a long road following the beach line. Some extremist douche took a truck an ran over 80 persons.

It's the last big attack of this scale on French territory and it happened more than 3 years ago. Mass shootings in the us killed way more people in the meantime

No I get it, but we can't just throw our hands up because it seems tough to figure out. I'd start with a production ban. Then make some sort of a law that would prioritize getting them out of the hands of people casually carrying them (AKA criminals) vs collectors and hobbyists. The majority of the weapons are no doubt held by collectors and people (like me) who have wayyyy more than average. I'm less worried about that lot.

You're right. It's a fucking crazy problem to look at and tackle, but I don't think it's impossible.

Armed gaurds who are actually trained for this type of shit. Why the fuck do we have so many guns/weapons in general. People will argue it's our right, but so is everyones saftey.

Yeah you're right it's mad fucked up but making each of those states into small totally autonomous nations would be hugely problematic and would result in mass poverty and probably war as well across the region. Not to mention that it would lead to a power vacuum on a global scale that Russia and China would be the most likely to fill.

He's talking about Nice, I'd bet

Proof

What wall? the only money spent so far has been to only repair already existing, dacades old fencing.

Person that has never traveled the world here.
Maybe if we had more shootings people would stop trying to immigrate here or buy up all of our property.

you dont. there have always been "outsiders" and they now are heavily armed. new world problems need new world solutions.

banning is not the answers.

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Gah seriously the inserts? Have you had to teach them to shield themselves with it? The fucking horror. I have a 3yo and 1yo. Giving me goosebumps to even think about preparing them for that. Good on you for doing all you can. You've got my support from Texas.

Funny how this doesn't happen where guns are banned

its not impossible, and yes. a production ban is the start. its going to take a generation to solve this problem. it took 30 years to get to this point....

I guess you're making a good point in a round about way...like, even with the shootings it's still a pretty great place to live. Still, less shootings plz.

Nice truck attack nigga. 90 run the fuck over by a tractor trailer. Imo worse terrorist attack since 9/11.

3 years ago. Still doesn't make it as bad as the gun problem these mongs have.

Agreed - it won't be quick as there's no 'light switch' but I am fucking sick of hearing about this shit.

You're trolling, right? If you get hit by a car somewhere in Asia people will walk right by you til you die. In china they skin and boil dogs alive. In India you will get scammed out of your life savings. Russia you're likely to get assaulted by some drunk slav. Europe you will be kidnapped and thrown in to sex trafficking. In africa or third world countries the town will gang up on you and beat and burn you to death if you're suspected of committing a crime. And of course muslims. Every country has it's share of retards but America is far from the worst

Idk two attacks almost 200 killed is pretty bad. But then ya have Pulse and Las Vegas shooting left 100 dead so, lmao.

Omg I'm sick of hearing non battle tested civilians talk like they arent retarded. Check yourself. When you get rid of guns what do you get? WHAT DO YOU GET?! bombs. Bombs bombs bombs. Lots of bombs. Car bombs. Drone bombs. Suicide bombs. You do not know fear, you do not know terror: guns are a blessing in disguise.

If you want to practice your right to carry you should be motivated to stop the people who abuse that right. Family or not, that right is being exploited and people like you keep saying don't touch your guns it's your right. We have not once changed are american rights, yet this country continues to change and become more and more segregated. Depsite being a country of immigrants

Bataclan was the worst. Still not as bad as what you have here. At least we aren't scared enough to want more people to get shot like ameritards.

yeah, it wa a fucking terrible day for a me a parent. But I rationalized it as "dont talk to strangers" .
I do what I can wen and where I can. Live to love and be peppered to confront -
3%
GA ;)

Oh of course, just trying to clarify so people can address the points instead of each other. There's a lot of smart people on this board if we could get past the invective just get to something better.

Imagine if Hitler won the war

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You realise that means you're dead, right? You, your mom, your dad, your cousins and aunts and grandparents. Real, living, loving people, all dead. One of every three people you've ever met would survive. 2/3 friends dead. 2/3 beautiful women dead. 2/3 lovely people alive no more because some kid thinks that killing people is the right way to solve problems.

I mean, when has any large scale extinction event ever made things better? Why would it now? Killing a bunch of people would just mean a bunch of people died for nothing and no reason. I mean, it is just so alarmingly idiotic to think that killing a bunch of innocent people somehow improved the lives of those who survive.

The earth is big enough to allow for all the billions of people on it and a few billion more. We can all live together. We don't need to kill anyone. I mean, the whole concept is just some edgy, cringey bullshit.

The CIA has been busy this week

Because wars and army's exist. And always will.

You can open carry in Texas, so where were those gun loving faggots in that Walmart??? Should've taken him down in under a minute.

This

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Yeah because look at all the bombs in Australia. It's not battle zone vs normal world, there's a gradient.

If you couldn't buy the guns in Indiana, they wouldn't be able to ship them to Chicago. It is not rocket science that reducing the number of guns legally for sale and making sure most law abiding citizens turn in their guns in with a buyback program would reduce the number of gun based fatalities in your region.

you are 100% correct.
US is fucked, 2nd amendment is 200+ yr old and is being grossly misrepresented for a gun lobby to profit from.
a mass ban, and surrender of weapons is the only way a "ban" will ever work.
it can never happen in the US, sadly.

Look it up.

What a retarded solution. Yeah that will really make people stop being idiots

american here but dont european countries allow travel to different countries? i thought they just made sure ur a european citizen and arent sketchy and ur gold

>grossly misrepresented
how so?

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"United" states of America. Each state is, by definition a separate country technically. What OP said was indeed correct.

They wouldn't if we would stop interfering in their politics and starting civil wars there.

If we don't ban them now we end up in a worse spot later. Rights Malthus. Take rights away now to preserve them later. It's applying Malthusian ethics to rights. Gonna happen if we're not careful.

He said civilians with a gun dumbass. Armed security guards are armed security guards. Not civilians. Not Johnny who lives up the road and carries a pistol on his hip all year for his blazing moment of glory and then pusses out when he has the chance to use it, like most people do.

Uneducated murrifag detected
you degenerated piece of shit should learn your place.
Every country in EU has better healthcare/social system than you, even most asian countries.
The fact, that another country eats food a different wa is surely a proove that USA is superior to them?
And to some extend you are right - they let you die. because the one who calls the ambulance needs to pay the bill. thats alot better than your healthcare right? where you even have to pay to hold your own baby after you pressed it out of your vagina.

sure, continue living in your delusional world=)

Yes. This.

get involved with the school. join the PTA, get info on bullying and make sure they dont let the kids pick on the wrong guy. if the kids arent bullied at school then they will grow up and end up shooting something else that the internet radicalized them into hating

Not European but the EU can be considered a country on it's own for all intents and purposes.
If you're an eu citizen you can move freely between them, work, study, live etc.

Not true

You'll be salty too when your bleeding out from a kitchen knife stabbing. All you had to do was point something that looked like a gun at them.

Everyone here with antigun posts uas never been confronted with violence alone at night. Or they are trolling Jews. Period. You just need to watch someone pick up a brick and smash someone's head open in the blink of an eye thinking (why couldn't anyone stop this?) Or hell. Be a woman and walk home alone at night. Every female friend I have tells horror stories of people trying to drag them into cars. Big city life is no safer than country living.

This is actually a not-horrible solution, but only solves locally and requires quite a bit of effort. As infomercials say, 'there's got to be a better way.'

Exactly my point, so many fucking guns and the only people who use them are veterans/ people who actually respect their rights. I think a possible solution would be to require all gun owners to take a terrorist action course to keep their licence of risk having their license revoked. In MA it's not easy to get a weapon, you can't even go to a shooting range without having a licence. Yet In the south you can buy a gun as easy as buying a fucking candy bar

im not saying i disagree with you completely but...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_control_in_Germany

Shock another American who has quite clearly never traveled outside of America, and therefore gets their view of the world from the media.

Get a passport and experience the world you moron

Are guns the only solution to the security problem? Somehow, I don't think the answer here is 'yes'.

Is this why I can rape white European women so easily? I get in at a lazy europoor country and move freely to a more rape friendly ("safe") zone?

You’re wrong, a few months to a year ago an NRA member stopped a mass shooting at a Texas church, also most that get stopped you won’t hear about cause not enough people die for it to be called a mass shooting and it doesn’t fit the media agenda. Most of the mass shootings that do happen are in heavily gun restricted zones or gun free areas like schools, city’s or California

>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_control_in_Germany
Reading...

Sutherland Springs

Ok are you suggesting sometning?

Everything you just said is completely retarded.

>Just break up the union

We could never do that because of the national debt. China owns us. Also, our influence in the global economy is a wet dream for dems and reps alike and they would never give that up.

Don't post in russian Posts ignore all russian posts. American's will figure out this shit while russia will sit around shilling till the end of time.

American here. I have to wear a bullet proof vest just to go to my mailbox. It's a war zone out here

Any information on the Ohio Shooting? Weapon? Videos?

Top kek

What tf are you talking about what does healthcare and food have to do with being shitty people? Like yeah our government is dumb but he said Americans are the worst people in the world and I'm suggesting that the way other counties treat people is far worse than most Americans. Stop being a closed minded faggot and look at the facts

Afraid not. Constitution mandates life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Bill of rights gives the right to bear arms to all citizens. Security in the USA has always been byob. Ask any cop

You're an absolute fucking retard if you think the civil war wasn't mainly about slavery.

Ok, I'm with you - are you saying restrictions have allowed for mostly safe use with the occasional mass-shooting event? I can agree there. Or are you saying the restrictions are too onerous and haven't done enough to completely eliminate mass-shooting events?

No what we need is cameras at every intersection. Police on every corner. Guns and knives outlawed. Wait wait wait. If any of those things made me feel better/more safe then I would just move to Europe.

Yes blacks shooting people never make the media these days. Those poor oppressed people!

Adding more guns will surely help the situation. If they took guns away from everyone the shootings will obviously increase. American logic.

You......NRA people! Time to do something.

Are you retarded. I'd rather have a knife pointed at me then a gun. You can easily defend against or outrun one and not the other. Im already convined that if me and my family were in danger id be prepared to fight

Literally murdered 28 people already Fucking idiots. He really stopped their murderers that good guy with a gun!

banning weapons in the third Reich lead to the rise of fascists Germany, we all know what happens when fascism takes hold... look at the current state of the world today.

Coming from the group of people saying everone in the united states sucks. You ever been here?

I don't know the answers man, I'm just frustrated at hearing about these senseless deaths made simple because of something that irresponsible people found too easy to get.

California would love this prop

Shocked another eurofag who has quite clearly never traveled to America, and there view of it from the media.

Get a passport and experience America you moron

I'm with you, that seems shitty too.

So you like watching videos online huh? Taken was an alright movie too.
As an American I think you should travel.

WTF else was it about?!?!?

TROLL ALERT

i agree murica is a shithole

It can happen without the ban - one doesn't nec. lead to the other. For proof, see every other ban in history that didn't lead to Nazis...

As an American I think you should shut the fuck up. Faggot

Whoa, someone sane on this shithole of a board? That's a rarity.

The Purge movie suddenly makes sense

Interesting point. Should it be this way?

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America just has more money for poor people to shitpost through. Literally is no different.... I do wish that being 300+ lbs wasn't enough to get disability paychecks. The "I'm too fat to walk myself or work ever a day in my life" thing is retarded. Basically incentive for lazy chip addicted fools who can't even cook for themselves.

locally is good. why should you bother worrying about other kids you dont know? let the other people get stressed about shit that doesnt effect them. its best to be selfish about politics. it keeps your list of priorities low (not getting stressed about abortion laws when ur an incel), makes you more informed about shit that does effect you, and you dont sound like a jackass trying to debate people on abortion even though youre an atheist and never had a child(delivered or not).

i honestly think if every person voted selfishly, on things that only directly effect them, the world would overall be a much better place culturally and physically. for example, lets say a country holds a vote whether to legalize weed. the only voters will be those who smoke/smoked weed, or those who are/were close to someone who smoked weed.
or for abortion, or for abortion, women who are able to have babies, or people who are close to someone who had abortion (i wish my daughter didnt do it/my sister would have died if her elephant size baby wasnt aborted)

country is so divided these days because everyone wants a say on every little issue

yes someone who thinks we have room fot a few billion more people on this rock isnt a raging moron

fuck you faggota are stupid

it speeds the process up.

If a population is unarmed it is easily taken over by an armed and smaller group.
"other ban in history that didn't lead to Nazis..."
true. but that one did. and the US today has become a facsimile of that model.

One of the first mass shootings, Texas right? Fucking nuts man. Old people eating their jello and fried catfish getting blown away by a psycho who drive his car through the entrance? If memory serves.

On point.

Kill obama

Fair points. Still seems like a lot of work I'd rather outsouce though ha

There is NOTHING that equalizes lethalness as effectively as a gun.

A 110 pound woman with a midnight special has a better chance at stopping an attacker than a 250 pound man with a baseball bat.

A gun costs less than 300 bucks and only takes a few hours to become proficient with. It can be used even if you have a broken leg or are extremely sick.

Self-defense classes over a few months will cost much more than a gun. You also have a good chance of injuring yourself while learning. It requires a lot of time to become proficient. If you are sick or injured, your effectiveness at it will be severely impacted. And all the self-defense classes in the world aren't going to help you much if your opponent is significantly bigger than you - especially since, as a criminal, they probably know how to fight as well (weight classes in professional fighting exist for a reason)

A taser isn't guaranteed to work. Neither is pepper spray. Hell, a strong kick to the nuts isn't a guarantee of incapacitation. There is no hand-held device that will protect you as effectively as a firearm.

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Have you seen what it takes to be a security guard. They're called rent-a-drunks for reason

Ja ha I agree, ese. Hey. What's say all of us Mexican men willingly head back to Mexico! At least our la families will be safe there! Let's head on back, guys! Ja ja ha ha ha

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Yup. Elderly gunned down while eating brunch. Good ole Texas.

It's comments like this that really let your stupidity shine. Referring to all Americans as fat instantly shows that you really know nothing about the us. Haha

and who rises to power? The current regime (Dems don't seem too heavily armed as it is...lol) or a crazy liberal Joe Biden driven autocracy? What's the scenario

And it would've been more than 28 if he wasn't stopped. Do you think he went "well shucks I really ought to stop now, 28 is a nice round number of dead guys"?

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Then you have had neither pointed at you.
t. Someone who has been jumped many times and many loaded guns pointed at me.

“LONDON'S knife epidemic has reached unprecedented levels with 84 deaths in the capital since the start of 2019.

Last year was London's bloodiest in a decade - when the number of homicides reached 132 - and it shows no signs of abating.”

UK really is a shithole and should probably stop existing....

See? I can play this game to.

Hahahaha

ok, lets all zoom out for a moment...
this "one of the reason why guns are so prolific in the us.

Lol imagine thinking Mexico is safer than United Statesm

You don't pull a knife on someone you can't grab unless your out of your element as a neckbeard and retard.

Cause you're a faggot?

Agreed. There are benefits associated with private gun ownership. Part of the question we're seeking to resolve is whether those benefits outweigh the risks. Are rape and violent crime rates higher in countries without personal gun ownership? That data would help answer the question.

What kind of hillbilly argument is this? If an army invades America and the US military couldn't stop them, you sure as shit aren't gonna do anything with your pea shooters when tanks starts rolling down your street

Ja ja ja I agree my ese friend. Let us all head back to Mexico! Who needs to illegally stay here when we are not even safe! Oh how I miss home cooked tacos from la grandma! COME ON GUYS! Let's head on back to Mexico! We don't need the US!

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a alternate reason for the spread of guns.. it is a self regulating population mesure from the bottom up.
read this :
climateandcapitalism.com/2009/11/23/the-dark-past-of-population-confrom/

Europe may not have the gun crimes as the USA and South America, but we have lots and lots and lots of murders, assaults and RAPES!!!

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I think we can all agree that only the worst of our country is shown to the world. That's why we all look like faggots to each other

I think that you don't know argentinians

Facts

Well he kinda killed everyone in the tiny church which was his goal/plan. Most don't just keep killing they have a Fucking plan then all shit breaks lose. That hick didn't stop Fucking shit. The coward blew his brain out anyway.

That's compared to London crimes generally. If the number of gun crimes in America were that low we would t be having this debate.

well then, you're fucked m8

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Lmao that's Fucking pussy shit. Philadelphia regularly has over 200 murderers let alone Baltimore with 300 plus.

Have you shot a gun? Have you been repeatedly stabbed?

I guess it was a WalMart...and was the bar that got shot up a blue-collar bar? I don't know, I like this perspective but don't think it helps here.

assholes like you are a special kind of retard, only law abiding would get theirs taken. niggers won't and will have a fucking looting/raping heaven just handed to them by nigger lovers like your black cock stretched out ass.

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This is actually really horribly put together. I can appreciate the attempt but if you're trying to convey information, mission failed bro.

wrong jewtard, you don't know how to google, pussy?

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Making it up as you go along?. You forgot to mention the Islamic no go areas that don't exist either.

Enjoy being a moron bruh.

what the fuck am I looking at, user

Hey, move to Brazil!

It’s really peaceful down here.
In 2016, Brazil had a record 61,819 murders or on average 168 murders per day, giving a yearly homicide rate of 29.9 per 100,000 population. In 2017, Brazil had a record number of murders, with homicides rising 3.7% with 63,880 homicides.

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No. States and countries are two very separate things. I don’t need a passport to go to Florida or an any other states.

Kek, and Michael Jackson didn't touch those boys....

I agree with this
"only law abiding would get theirs taken"

but not your racist nasty choice of words thou

>calls him jewtard
>posts reaction picture of the biggest shill in america
top zozzle. Oh the irony

Yeah no thanks. Think I'll pass on going there

Here's a prettier one for the brainlets

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That incident is what caused Texas to change its gun laws. When was the last time you heard of a mass shooting in Texas? Oh that's right, every time some shitbird tries, they get shot, but you don't hear about it on CNN

sure,tell us your secret plan to disarm the hoodrats....

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What about senseless deaths in Palestine? Senseless death from fentanyl? What about cancer and aids? What about wars? That one crazy dude shooting people gosh if only we had a way to reach him and stop him and if only these terrified people could do something other than be targets...

Why are mass shootings being done at concerts/churches/schools and not being done at gunstores/conventions/police picnics? Oh it's because someone unstable decided to Target defenseless, vulnerable, people. If I lay a bomb at a school, more people will die than any mass shooting. You won't get around an unstable person determined to do damage, but they won't target your church or school if there's a bunch of trained guns ready to cut down their high score killing streak.

Hadrians wall?????. Ever heard of it?. And English man fucked a pig, threw it over the wall and Scots people came in to existence....yeah, I know Hadrian was Roman.....its a joke.

this isn;t reddit, pussy

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I think your tinfoil hat has fallen off. Take the tablets dude, just take the fucking tablets.

Shooting somebody after they finished killing everyone is not stopping it user

at least they aint shootin white folk

Damn dude. I appreciate the new data but did you have to hurt my feelings?

I've had a knife pulled on me and when they looked at me and saw I wasn't running they quickly put their knife away and ran. You have more sense of security holding a gun faggot. Most of these faggots killing people with guns are skinny retards.

still not wrong...hows that google search going, troll

Then I'll engage - thanks for being a human.

I agree, we (assuming you own guns like I do) would be the first to comply. There's probably a way to taper and coordinate the production bans and criminal confiscations first, and then buybacks and turnovers second. Still, there would be a period in which criminals would have easier access to a dwindling supply of weapons and civilians would not.

I don't think this period would be 'forever' or that it would be a significant increase in violence and I think the country would be a safer place following it.

*Jeffersonian Libertarianism intensifies by 9000%*

Probably, most yanks don't do geography well. Too inwards looking, on the other hand the yanks that do get out are really fucking nice.

He was trying to escape, he had finished
Stop talking shit

Are you aware of the war in Iraq? Even the us military can't stop a bunch of guys with aks and IEDs . So hell Yes you can

>cant defend himself
>b-but you're trolling
Back to your safespace

Well you can 3d guns soo.... What are you saying. Make tools illegal? Why don't we just make lead illegal. Won't that fix it? Or gunpowder illegal, surely no one can make that themselves lol right?

It's not the method how you need to fight. People will find a way to cause damage. Look at 9/11. Weather a false flag or not, they will find a way to fit their narrative.

Fight unstable institutions that repress/depress developing children/war vets.

The data that would help is 'are violent crimes more prevalent in countries without guns' to answer the question of whether private gun ownership minimizes or deters violent crime. So the only applicable data sets would be from countries that dont allow private ownership.

Shoot me bitch!

How many bombs in Oz? I also think we should be doing more for heart disease, but that aint this bread.

Ok, so why then do all the niggers, beaners and other assorted subhumans keep coming to America?
We never had these problems when American was mostly white people.

so.....you didn't read the stories you are posting about?

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Bombs are better, they kill more people that means less Americans, which benefits the rest of the world. It's a bigger picture thing.

They are already banned dipshit.
Think before you start flapping your cock hole in public.

You're making a slippery slop argument, which is a logical fallacy. Cmon dude.

Move to Mexico!

It’s really peaceful down here.

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defend your post on the wall, jew

Yeah, fair point but Aussies mate, Aussies.

And it's going soooooo well in France isn't it?
But at least they get a chance to surrender again.

It's has nothing to do with gun free zones, it's because they choose an area with maximum number of targets

i'm pretty sure OP is no more than 12 years old.....

That data is in the other collection

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slippery slope*

Didn't refer to any fat people. Are you fat?

I just noticed that almost every day I see people so fat they cart around in scooters. Walmart especially (coz retards that allow themselves to get that fat are of course poor too)

They usually happen in gun free zones.
Shocking I know.

What kind of a gun is that pistol?

This is all countries, I only want countries that have banned private ownership of guns. The rest is noise man and only serves to conflate what we're looking at.

im kinda cool with this im in the south we tried this before but the Yankees made us stay

This is still fair though, taking time to look at it - thanks for providing. Didn't mean to shit on it like I did.

It will be a 3th one before this day end

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it's a free world aint it? why not

That pic is of a smith & wesson m&p15-22.
22lr not 5.56... which are the rounds sitting next to it.
Whoever took that pic is a larping retard and nothing associated with it (including OP's ultra low IQ post) should be taken seriously.
Nobody needs to give up their fucking guns. If anyone tried, even if some people handed them over willingly, there would be more dead people in the process.
Maybe focus on the REASONING behind these cunts shooting up places? Nobody ever woke up and said
>hey
>I own a gun
>that means it's ok to go out and use it on innocent people
>great idea
>let's go!
People snapping is the problem. Period. And no, it's not womens fault for not fucking incels. It's not a political parties fault for having different views. Etc etc...
Its these fuckin sad beings who dont know well enough that just "killing the people I dont like" or an "I'll show them" mentality is not the answer.
These are weak people. If actual gun enthusiasts/former mil/leo/anyone with a lick of training (and a major chunk of gun owners) were the problem, youd see casualties that make these pissant "sprees" look like a spitball compared to a howitzer.

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Not that guy, but thinking gun control in Australia helped with crime in any way is just plain wrong

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Lose weight defensive fatty

Most English think that London can go fuck itself. It's a dirty, shitty fucking stink hole, 90% of the people there are fucking miserable cunts regardless of creed, colour or religion. All of the UK media focus too much on London, it's like they forget that there are other places. Put a fence around the M25 and be done with it.

This.
It's also economic related and probably has to do with how stable and grounded family life is at home too.

Ok, so yeah - I'll agree guns by themselves don't make the average person more dangerous. I think this also shows it doesn't necessarily make them safer either.

Do guns make mass shooting events more common is the next question. If so, then we would be saying that a ban would essentially be good at decreasing these events, but might have a negligible effect on violent crime. I think there would be a positive impact over time, but it's hard to say.

If all it did was decrease mass shooting events and convert every gun murder into a knife murder and every gun suicide into a rope one, I'd be fine with that.

Civil war 2?
We already had 2 you idiot

keep buyn them drugs up and snorting up those gringo noses, making cartels stronger and more violent they keep comming

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The argument that absent guns populations turn to more violent weapons is bunk though. I'll concede that violence is inevitable. I do think decreasing access to guns would decrease the number (perhaps not severity) of mass shooting events over time.

Switzerland has a fuckload of guns

Is this bait or are you actually retarded?

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captured in on image

The country started with the first civil war
How stupid can you be?

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Pass laws to remove guns from USA. Americans own 120.5 guns for every 100 residents. Realize you will have to go door to door and physically pry guns from the cold, dead hands of half the country. Civil war ensues escalating the gun death toll (which is currently on a continuous decline) beyond casualties seen in every previous war the US has been involved in combine.

This was a success. European logic.

Post nudes or fuck off

>south

you mean central american, you ignorant fuck. truly shocking the “murican” cant even read a map properly

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the us is 5.3 per 100k for intentional homicides, why you lying?

>experience america

no thanks, I quite like not being obese and ignorant for now

It will be a 3th one before this day end

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>know nothing about us

huh...

fat AND delusional. Interesting.

You're literally wanting a white Africa, without the colonizing.

That sounds like fun!

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retard confirmed
good grammar you fucking kike

>Imagine being such an edgy consumerist cuck you actually believe Marvel's (tm) purple meme man was right

and allow these gun-toting freaks to set up their own versions of ISIS? i don't think so.

That's not known as "The Civil War." That would be "The American Revolutionary War" aka when we fought the British for independence. Not other Americans.
"Civil war" does not mean "war fought on one country's soil" it means its own people are fighting each other. God damn son, pick up a book.

>kidnapped for sex trafficking in europe

I think your only glimpse of europe in your whole life was through a film called taken

That's the point you fucking derp. And it's not a logical fallacy to point out how any such choice is indeed a slippery slope. Look at what happened with fags. Now we have trans maniacs and people like you.

All mass shootings are planned by the CIA and is solely done for population control and diverting attention from the real problems in the world (mostly government or political related stuff).

How do people still not realize this? This has been happening for many many years now. Open your retarded eyes.

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Yes because killing less than 100 people is really putting a dent on our population.

>be american
>get shot

>not understanding that by just killing one person you could indirectly kill thousands because of several reasons

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You are exceptionally stupid. Even for Yea Forums.

You can't get them back. You cannot preserve them "later" by giving them up.
You should be quiet if you have nothing to contribute.

Your ignorant opinion has been noted.

Cuz jews say ethno state for me but not for ther

>most that get stopped you won’t hear about cause not enough people die for it to be called a mass shooting and it doesn’t fit the media agenda
Bullshit. Keep drinking the TrumpAde.

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Kys retard, that was a festival.

Remember the old dude in las vegas. Killed 100 with a gun from his hotel. Kys retard!

Banning guns only empowers the biggest most violent person. Will require much larger government/police to keep you safe. If that's what you want, there are plenty of nanny states already... Go join one.

Placing your safety in the hands of others is a dumb decision.

Americans should boycott all gun free zones.

>what does healthcare and food have to do with being shitty people?
Are you serious? Better people provide for the weaker among their group. No one in America considers themselves part of a group, so they don't want to provide for the poor. They look down on the poor and fear becoming poor themselves Those who become economically vulnerable are prone to hate themselves for being "weak" even when the economic cards are stacked against them.

That first 60 seconds is where most of the killings occurred. Good guys with guns aren’t preventing shit.

Citation needed

this

I read the argument in the pic and it is incredibly short sighted.

Firstly, even if we go under the assumption that he's right about reason and force being our two methods of interaction, his argument that guns are the perfect equalizer is wrong.

Firstly, a criminal doesn't just walk up to you and politely ask for your money. They walk up gun drawn and take the advantage away from you. And sure, if they don't have a gun and you do, you have the advantage if they're not already too close. If they're already on-top of you, they can kill you before you can shoot them, especially if they're bigger or stronger or younger than you.

And if they're already pointing a gun at you, if you try to pull your gun you're going to get shot and lose your life instead of your wallet.

Muggings will always be dangerous. And most of the time if they do it right, a gun wouldn't help you until they turned to flee. And then it's just manslaughter.

im not sure where you live but we could 100% beat you in a war if we haven't already

Most of these threads are from non americans go fuck yourselves.

We should ban drugs too what with the opiate crisis and all the deaths. Maybe alcohol too given the thousands of deadly accidents and all kinds of hooliganism due to impaired judgment.
It's not like there will be any unintended consequences.

The American public are staggeringly ill informed and narrow minded. This is reflected by the percentage of passport holders. They have no idea what is really going on in the world. The see shit like like "100 knife attacks in a London" and they think England is a war zone LOL!. FYI London is a very small part of England with a vastly different demographic to the rest of the country and 95% of those knife attacks are between gangs who don't affect the average public in the slightest. Nobody in Europe is getting shot up on a weekly basis by some lonely kid who's got tired of playing World of Warcraft. This guy shit 9 people in under a minute and you still think it's the person and not the weapon? You have the most fractured, uneducated, unworldly, violent culture in Western democracies. Yet you have the most weapons. The internet is a disaster for America because the public is so untraveled and easily influenced that you see some shit meme about knife crime in London and you think the rest of the world is as fucked as you. Fact, innocent kids are not getting shot in schools and shopping malls ANYWHERE else in a western democratic country.

Go to india or bangladesh. Actually the worst people. The smells the rape the vegetarian food so amazing you cant find anything close to it anywhere else.

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Yeah cause everyone from around the world comes to live here. The US is just full of dick heads from everywhere

What you call it to make it sound heroic doesn't change the fact that it was the first civil war you fought in

Once old enough?
You have kids and guns? lol... More chance of one of them getting killed by one of your guns than any bad guy. But I guess that's just natural selection.

I find foreigners views on America interesting. They seem to assume that everyone just walks around with guns all the time and v everyone in public is packing heat and hoping to shoot someone.

Ive lived from California to dc, traveled by car across country twice. I also have a passport full of stamps. Ive seen open carry exactly 3 times in my life. Once was actually at Walmart and it was more of a failed concealed carry.

I worked as Le in a very gun friendly state that allowed both concealed and open. Excluding hunting season, I spoke with a bajillion people. During that time I have come across countless people with permits that were not carrying, 3 with that were, and several that were not legally allowed to be carrying what they were.

If someone comes to America and spends a month, odds are they'll never see a gun that isn't being carried by a uniform.

I have a CNC in my garage. I will always have firearms.

>mass
>19 dead

19 isnt a mass

Coming from someone who lives about 10 minutes away from the Oregon District shooting in Ohio, our police force is fucking horrible and rarely does anything - you never see police cars besides the occasional police officer pulled over doing paperwork. Police in this instance acted fast and swiftly killed the shooter.

Due to the fact that the downtown city of Dayton is full of both black/white druggies, I guarantee that when the full report comes, the gun the guy had is probably going to not be his/stolen/illegal.

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