Is 35 still considered young for a man? Honestly I feel like I haven’t experienced much of life and haven’t done much. I’ve only had two girlfriends (currently single for 8 years) and I just started my first job at Wendy’s.
When I talk to guys younger than me they always talk about how they have been around the world and back. Is it too late for me? Have I missed out too much in life?
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I hope you’re joking OP. If not you’re pathetic.
I wouldn't say young but as long as you're in good health or not tied down by a family you're still at a fine age to go out and do things. Now not having a job until 35 is concerning.
35 would have been head of a household back even in the 1970s. Now we live longer and we can afford to be late bloomers. Of course, there are a lot of rigid right wing dickwads in this country that have issues with homophobia that act out by controlling people who don't conform to their daddy's standards of "masculinity."
>this is b8
Everything checks except you're working a teenager's fast food job at an establishment very familiar to Yea Forums.
Post pics of yourself
What the fuck does this liberal word salad have to do with 35 year olds still being considered young?
>Of course, there are a lot of rigid right wing dickwads in this country that have issues with homophobia that act out by controlling people who don't conform to their daddy's standards of "masculinity."
Aw did someone make fun of you today at school?
lmao i was thinking the same thing
This
What the actual fuck dude
You're ass is rustled hard over nothing
No you are not young. You are on the edge of middle aged. People in their mod 20s won't want to hang with you.
Someone is projecting. Being a productive member of society isn't 'right wing' or 'masculine'. It is just not being a shitty person draining on other people.
Hell, when we finally seize the means of production, unproductive fucks like OP will be the 3rd to go. (after the bourgeoisie and jews)
NA bro. You still have 5 years.
Yeah it's actually very right wing to determine who's "productive," and what's more, "productive" means that you get a job that gets you 6 figures and it had goddamned better be an engineer instead of some fine arts bullshit. Right, user?
It's right wing af. Liberals don't think like that, they're trying to change society to make it more egalitarian where it's frankly none of your goddamned business to judge others as "productive."
Actually with automation, many people will not have to work as much, if at all in the next couple of decades. And then we'll be seriously be talking about making UBI available to everyone.
Everyone is different, you are now thinking about the things you want to do, could do possibly; exploring your minds wants and worth. So I think you’re never too old to begin something within your capabilities. You’re 35 not 99, go and try and enjoy your life, regardless of what other people think or are doing or have done you are alive now and you won’t be forever, so just embrace the fear and the anticipation and try not to doubt your own ideas so much. Also good luck with the living, I hope you finally begin to see yourself more clearly and have some fun during that time with your eyes open :)
>more egalitarian
>provides literally nothing
See, I'm honest enough to admit Marxism works great, so long as people like you don't breed. When there is no motive for progress, society wont work. When nothing is being produces, people starve.
Piece of shit like you are why Marxism fails.
Problem is a lot of 30 year olds are crippled by boomer debt.
Is this bait?
Someone can't actually be this retarded
>progress
according to your own definition once again
to me progress is writing a song
for you it's being chained to what's basically indentured servitude
>as long as people like you don't breed
but many are user
and we're going to change this place for the better without your blessing
>Boomer debt
What debt is that? National debt, or debt voluntarily accepted by the individuals? (like student loans)
>crippled by boomer debt
and boomer inflation
>shut up liberal
>you're retarded
You're just proving my point
30s is that weird period where you're too old to feel feel young and naive but your too young to feel old and experienced
And if you succeed, my children starve. Good news, before that happens, the worthless will be put in work camps to produces necessary goods for the rest of us who don't have to be forced to be provide things of substance.
Your kind will be forced to provide. The rest of us will have our freedom.
Naw, he thinks we can all eat feelings and songs. He really is this retarded.
Simple answer is no op, you are not young man if your a 35 year old working his first job at a fast food restaurant, tf have you been doing the past 15-17 years of your life that this is your first ever job at 35 anyways? I mean holy shit op I'm 22 & I've inevertantly worked like 3-4 jobs just off & on when I needed something or ran low on money yet this is your first job at 35 years old?? Yikes
>boomer inflation
then: oh yeah we're gonna keep wages and costs low
now: fuck why didn't you get a good enough job?
You're a fucking slob, bum, social parasite. You should have had that job a Wendy's 18 years ago, moved on 2 years late, and should be settled into some sort of career since you were 25. No, you are not young. You're a waste of food, water, space, air.
I'm glad we agree you're a hard core right winger user xdxd
If you're having fun who cares?
OP makes it sound like fun is a fleshlight
See? Right wing bullshit.
Because 35 still is young now. It wasn't back in the 1950s or whenever. It was close to middle age.
If he is not having fun then yes, he should make a change, but idk how he thinks so....
I'm really enjoying watching my point get proven again and again here, actually. I'm trying to defend OP, even though I'm sure it's a troll.
>And if you succeed, my children starve.
not with UBI
I don't follow user. It almost sounds like you think everyone should be growing their own food. I know you don't.
I think your on the wrong board b, you do know where you are right?
What does 'right wing' mean to you? By literally NO standards, European or American is what I'm saying 'right wing'. I propose we abolish the family unit, the fascist economic systems of oppression. Now, you can say I'm not a progressive, but that is fine. I support progress for human kind, not your whimsical dreams of writing slam poetry and expecting to be supported by everyone else's efforts and labor.
The Earth will wither and die, the hungry will starve, while you sit there 'producing' nothing of real sustenance. Your songs and poems feed no one.
See? You right wingers are all fucking dipshits.
Triggered faggot, holy fuck you are pathetic.
NO ONE CAN JUDGE MEEEE STOP ITTT
cry harder, clearly your uncle touched you a little too much on the bum or daddy didn't smack your faggot ass into shape. It's been a while since I have seen someone as triggered as you.... over nothing... You're pathetic and trash. Slit your wrists, nigger fag nigger.
Checked
But I'm right. You can keep dogpiling me all you like.
>not your whimsical dreams of writing slam poetry
your iconoclastic attitude towards art and disdain for personal expression is disturbing user
>The Earth will wither and die, the hungry will starve
Why? Because people will lead more egalitarian lives they won't be farmers anymore? There won't be farm machinery to harvest it? You have this really archaic view of the world. Hence the accusations of being right wing. Because it is.
Post your dick OP.
Look you can keep screaming "faggot" all you like, but I'm right. Your methods represent the right wing patriarchy that society is currently wrestling with breaking free.
dayummm
UBI quints
Starving dubs
Oh no, you take me wrong. I don't have a problem with UBI, it is a step in the correct direction, however, as the capitalist system of oppression is destroyed there has to be incentive to actually produce the food. Without such, mass starvations happen. When there is a lack of food, a loaf of bread is well worth more than your monthly stipend.
That is why everyone must do their part to produce.
I support personal expression, so long as you are doing your part. Marxism only works when the proletariat wrench away the production from the proletariat. If we fail to maintain the productivity, then we all fail. Socialism requires the combined efforts of all of it's citizens.
Right about what? The fact that your a raging homo playing word salad with a 35 year old near jobless bum trying to tell him its going be ok when he just got his first job at 35 years old at wendy's no less, what level of fuck up are you if thats a good standard to aim for? I guess bum fuck loser's is your standard though if you feel the need to defend op though.
>marxism
>socialism
more right wing boogeymen buzzwords user
you won't stop us
>That is why everyone must do their part to produce.
Everyone isn't a farmer user. Machines can do the "producing" with the highest paying jobs being people who work on said machines. Which allows for extensive UBI way beyond what Yang is proposing.
So I am also correct, that you have issues with your own homophobia.
... I'm sorry, what? I've got my own personal copy of Capital literally across from me now. I too look forward to the collapse of this neo-liberal hell-scape.
You are too busy buying into the white-washed post-modern idea that automation is the solution to scarcity. We aren't there yet, machines are basic and still need hard work. Logistics still need to be driven by human ingenuity and effort. When everyone believes this trash that you support, the fields go untended. If not, the blue collar workers will rise against the new consumer class, and that will be you.
Why should the farmer produce and feed those that produce nothing? Do you really think that they will look at you and say "Yeah, that is just as productive as the work I do?"
Do you not think it will be much more likely that he will say "Fuck that useless asshole, I'm not sharing resources with him. He simply consumes and produces nothing of worth."
In fact, sounds familiar doesn't it? Almost sounds like the bourgeoisie. If I didn't know better, it sounds a whole lot like you just want to lead a new class system, with you at the top. Makes sense.
>Why should the farmer produce and feed those that produce nothing?
This literally sounds like an except from one of Hitler's speeches.
>the white-washed post-modern idea
aka Jews are doing this
That wasn't me I just came in this thread and saw you sperg out in these 2 posts, retard
Nice post OP kek
>right wing dickwads
>but the homophobes guys
>Im trying to defend op
>but guys I'm right
Someone took a wrong turn at lgbtq & went straight to b
Homophobia?
Right wing dickwads?
Daddy's standards
You reek of pathetic loser
>Logistics still need to be driven by human ingenuity and effort
There are countless individuals who would devote their time to both if they weren't slaving away at some job working 40-80+ a week.
I'd be on board with the Socialists and Communists if they were also Nationalists and opposed immigration
But it's weird that they are all Globalists who think immigration is "just natural" and we should allow flood of Hispanics or Muslims in our country
Let's start over. I see you're entirely dismissive of both. Care to explain why?
Hey keep proving my point Spidey. The idea that you have to have your entire shit together well before age 35 is Calvinist bullshit.
>abolish the family
Calm down turbo hitler
This post is like a tranny. Towards the top you can tell what the person is trying to accomplish, but the farther down you look the weirder it gets
You and OP can be 30+ year old pathetic broke incels together then. Don’t try to normalize being a failure.
OP asked is 35 still young for a man and this retard started venting about right wing people and it was only barely related to the post
BTW it is up to society and our culture to judge people if they aren't productive and to guide them in a way that is productive
"who are you to judge?!?!?" is just a cosmopolitan way of saying "everything is morally equivalent" which is retarded.
>pic related
>I propose we abolish the family unit, the fascist economic systems of oppression
What the actual fuck is this thread
Is it just retards trolling retards?
>You are too busy buying into the white-washed post-modern idea that automation is the solution to scarcity.
I wasn't even going there. Companies right now are moving towards automation user. That automation is a savings in the trillions of dollars every year. That savings needs to go to the people so we can pursue other interests that don't involve working a day job. This is called progress, user. You are fighting natural social economic evolution with your 18th century philosophies.
>Why should the farmer produce and feed those that produce nothing? Do you really think that they will look at you and say "Yeah, that is just as productive as the work I do?"
Do you not think it will be much more likely that he will say "Fuck that useless asshole, I'm not sharing resources with him. He simply consumes and produces nothing of worth."
And once again, why would they?
See, in a profit driven system, the logistics and labor get done, producing much more at the expense of the laborer, profiting the explorative class. All your system does is produce a new elite class of people exploiting the word of the proletariat. That is why ALL must do their part. The hierarchy is preserved with your proposals.
Fucking this, no one said you had to have your fucking whole life figured out by 30 years old, we all just consider you a complete retarded fuck up if you don't lol, which at this point doesn't even sound like the worst thing op has going for em at this point,
Our society is currently moving towards accepting that 35 is not old, that you don't have to be a head of a household or hold down a serious job if you don't want to, user. It's a fairly simple concept.
>He simply consumes and produces nothing of worth."
according to your standards
go on
>in a profit driven system
The top 1/10 of the 1 percent get it all user
you know this
You are both seriously anti-intellectual. This is also disturbing in a supposedly enlightened age
This thread started because a 35 year old man got a job at Wendy’s. Let that set in.
>Our society is currently moving towards accepting that 35 is not old, that you don't have to be a head of a household or hold down a serious job if you don't want to, user. It's a fairly simple concept.
And not a good one.
All of culture and society depends on women having children, and men being productive and moral.
If growth is being stunted until way later in life, that will lead to way lower birth rates the death of our civilization.
And for what? So a 30 year old can jack off in his room and a 30 year old woman can become depressed trying to compete with men for a "career"?
Haha what a fucking loser. All the real men work at Burger King
I know but look at all the frogposters coming out of the woodwork
>burger king
>leathery ass food
>loser
yeah, ok bud.
Is it a sign that Civil war will happen in either US or Europe?
This is quite a bit of pent up hostility
Enlightened? Westerners act like total degenerates and literal primates (Muslims) are taking over the world. What the fuck is so enlightened about our age?
>your 18th century philosophies.
So the rational has changed has it? Today we have the resources to provide for every human on the planet to thrive, yet we in the first world still bicker over 'he has more than me'. What makes you think this all goes away when we enact Marxism now? Do you see this going well in the eyes of the ones doing the labor?
The reason 'some do the physical labor' wont work is the same reason we want to redistribute resources in the first place.
"We feel stressed out by debt, also those people have a bunch of money. I mean, almost all my real problems are social or self-inflicted, but I'm going to blame those guys. EGALITARIANISM!"
That is the same mindset that brought about these philosophies. It is the same mindset that will cause the farmers to rebel against the new elite class.
Couldn't agree more. That is why I'm for the abolition of the capitalist oppressive system.
We could use lower birth rates user. We're exponentially using up way too much of this planet. We need to be less than 4 billion and actually the goal is to make half the planet remain undeveloped so that other species can thrive, but that's later, after we outgrow the tiresome right wing thinking saying we can't.
Gee I don't know, maybe because I can listen to your drivel and tell you to fuck off without any real retribution? Because you live in a country which recognizes that. I can't imagine.
>That is why I'm for the abolition of the capitalist oppressive system.
so you're the commie not me
yell at yourself faggot
Europe’s having a civil war in the next decade or so for sure. I give the 15-25 more years before shits absolutely totally fucked.
>trolling
At this point, I'm sure that 75% of the posts are troll posts. I'm enjoying it, because I'm retarded.
You’ll be the first to go during collapse, I hope you know that.
>all my real problems are social or self-inflicted, but I'm going to blame those guys.
Yes. I'm going to blame the private sector and push for laws to hold them accountable.
And one of those ways of making them accountable is to demand UBI from the private sector in lieu of the savings automation brings industry.
And that would be through taxation, unless corporations found their own collective to distribute the dividends.
So you're going to make it collapse to spite the libs. Is that it?
>We're exponentially using up way too much of this planet
If you truly believe this, you are retarded.
We don't have food shortages, we don't have oil shortages, only a few places have water shortages, and the population will plataeu at around 11 Billion.
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Sounds like a real man to me
Not as long as NATO exists. That's probably one of the reasons why Trump wants to dismantle it.
UBI will ruin the west and we will all be fucked. I hope Trump wins again.
I don't believe it, it's science, user. We've already used up a good part of our natural resources in just the past couple hundred years.
>and the population will plataeu at around 11 Billion.
Which is unsustainable. It will cause mass extinctions getting there too.
the libs are making the collapse
>didn't even watch the videos
Kill yourself
Yes you hope a criminal gets "relected" and then proceed to rob the treasury to pay off the world's richest people. Splendid plan user.
This with immigration
what crime did he commit again?
No we aren't. Your side is the one with the stupid economics that caused a world recession in 2008. All your side does is lie and cheat to "win" and blame us, call us "liberals" "socialists" "marxists." We're sick of your shit.
Save up op.and sustain yourself.Im in the same boat but just landed my only 2nd job at 29.
at least we win, the left lied and cheated and still lost
Whatever you posted was shit. Overpopulation and resource depletion/waste is a critical problem. Only a right wing fucktard would care to gloss over something like that or deny it altogether.
No user. Your side. You suppress, you make character assassinations, you demean anyone who doesn't fall lockstep into your 19th century thinking. Your time is done.
Oh look a bootlicker.
So I guess the liberals robbing tax payers to pay actual nigger criminals and single mothers welfare and other free shit is much much better huh?
Fuck off
so show your care for the planet and off yourself. you could start a movement ya know
SEETHING
>durr niggers durr
racist
world will be a far different place by the time you're able to vote. don't worry about it so much. go enjoy your summer outside.
I'd rather stick around and watch myself be proven right while you continue to be a massive snowflake.
did you get lost? do you know where you are, child?
>snowflake
so lazy the left can't even coin their own labels
I'm able to vote right now. And your paradigm is on the way out. It has been for decades.
Ohh my god I hope you’re trolling you can’t be this fucking blind and stupid. Even moderates will admit welfare is s huge issue and the west is going into too much debt to support itself.
The damage Bush did is NOTHING compared to the spending under Obama, we are beyond fucked, because of the Democrats. Trump is just a bandage to the mess liberals created but the infection is still there.
I'm right. It doesn't matter where I am. You're a racist and part of a longtime right wing ideology in its throes of death.
Ok snowflake
>the damage Bush did is nothing compared to what THE NIGGER DID
>THE NIGGER
There have been 19 Republican presidents since Abraham Lincoln first ran as a Republican to win the presidency in 1861. Even though the Democratic party has been around longer than the Republican party, there have only been 13 Democrat presidents.
There have been 19 Republican presidents since Abraham Lincoln first ran as a Republican to win the presidency in 1861. Even though the Democratic party has been around longer than the Republican party, there have only been 13 Democrat presidents.
Kill yourself, should you be paying for your wife and her boyfriend to go out to eat right now or something? I’m sure they need refreshments after banging all day while you played your Nintendo switch in the room over.
>NIGGERS KILL
>KILL THE NIGGERS
faggot
sure kid
cant be racist but you can run around and call people faggot? if it wasn't for double standards....you'd have...
Some of the people in this thread are flat earth level stupid...