Old fags who dated in the 80s and 90s. When did the dating schene turn into the dumpster fire we see today?

Agreed. Would smash that every some odd weekend.

> " Old fags who dated in the 80s and 90s. When did the dating scheme turn into the dumpster fire we see today? " ;

It started way before then:
maybe as early as the late 1960's when the emergent
> SJW " feminist movement "
first started to rebel against the traditionally accepted cultural values that deemed a woman's place to be in the home - cooking the food, washing the pots & clothes, bathing the children and all other suitably menial tasks that befitted their limited physical & intellectual skills.

thoughtco.com/bra-burning-feminists-3529832

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Lulz, you're kidding right? In the 90's it was appreciably worse. Wanna date in person? Just as much luck as you'd have today. Wanna date online (or by phone, cuz you know, we didn't have as much of that shit)? Get ready to pay up big boy, you'll also be meeting the most socially awkward fuckwits (because only losers couldn't score a date without a phone/internet connection).

If you think Tinder/bumble are ass, you have no idea.

You were a 2000's kid. Don't try to conflate like you grew up in 80s/90s. You probably weren't old enough to understand dating by the time those decades had already came and gone.

If you get off your fat fucking ass and go somewhere with people who have similar interests then it hasn't changed from the 90s.

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She's solid GILF material. She could own the dating scene.

Correct. Social media and smartphones acted as steroids for the worst tendencies of people... especially the shallowness and flakiness of women.

Boy this is not no askreddit get outta here with these retarded questions

Legit my first sentence said I didn’t date in the 90’s? I’m not conflating anything. The entire point of the post was that even though I’m a 2000’s kid I can still see a big change. Get the dick out of your ass.

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I don't know how hard up you must be dude but I don't find any 60 year-old woman attractive in the sense of wanting to have sex with her. I don't care who she is.

I might be able to appreciate her faded beauty for what it must have been in full bloom, as far as that goes, as long as she hasn't allowed doctors to fuck her shit up with plastic surgery.

But yeah, I don't get wanting to have sex with an old lady. I doubt I will even want to if one day I am married, and she's my old lady. Even if I am even older.

>I don't get wanting to have sex with an old lady

i've never wanted kids so for me the appeal started when i realized they can't have kids after a certain age. love finishing inside and too paranoid about birth control.

gf is 50, been together for going on 3 years. she's stable, doesn't need me to play any roles other than faithful partner. good stuff.

Give 40+ a chance. If they're in shape the age really only shows up in the face. It's the same nut.

>Give 40+ a chance

dude no

Check em, /thread, plus the lunatic me too movement and this new wave feminism shit. And the wildly intense liberal agenda shoved down youths throat

I graduated High School in 96. Technology ruins everything. I remember when caller ID came out and made it harder to call girls at their parents house

Oldfag here... started dating late 90's. It has always been shitty. Difference now is social media, poc, and such.

This. Credit cards and cameras everywhere. You cant get away with shit.

>he thinks feminism started in the 60s

90's, thats when the collapse happened. Now we have dating apps that are totally toxic.

Im old and married, but I am wondering are girls sluttier today because of all the porn and weirdo acceptance or are they harder to fuck because of metoo bitches?

Theyre easier and weirder. But imbibing is more risky.

The massive cultural revolution that happened in the 60’s is for sure a part of it. The hippy counterculture movement of the late sixties was like part one of the fuckshow. Part two is now happening

it's actually both, depends upon which female.

for a lot of the millennials, sex is like a handshake. sex on the first date? almost customary now. that's one set.

other set: radical fembots screaming metoo, hating men, and wondering why they aren't engaged yet.

the male incels are like the metoo bitches. they hate women, but wonder why they can't get laid or find a girlfriend.

good times.

80/20 has always been true. Its just far worse in todays world where we have so much instant access to the "20" that its completely turned everything to shit.

Instant gratification, entitlement, #metoo, new wave feminism, etc etc. These have never in our history been more widely pushed by more unintelligent people onto youths.

I wish I could go fuck a bunch of young sluts. When I came up there always a few sluts around, but most chicks viewed sex as special

This

the fact is we are reaching peak capitalism, where people themselves are comodity you can use and trash after you're done.

Goes either way. Sex is upfront, but there is so much head fuckery. Your always second guessing them, because your just one of many. Your in a stack. You think your onto a winner and she picks the other guy. 9 guys go back into the circuit and try again. It's not fun. So I gave up.

It never too late to pay for it.

This. I dare you try and keep the attention of a drunk 20 yo at a bar. It's impossible.

I honestly don't really think its any different. Everyone has always wanted to fuck all the time. It was far more common for older guys to be getting teen brides and pounding out babies back in the day which would be hugely not acceptable now.
Instant access to media has played a special role in todays world for how we get so much coverage on things many people may not of been exposed to but as a whole I'd argue nothing is different. Rose colored glasses answers most things about the past.

two words: internet whores

just try to keep the weight down and avoid fags catfishing as grills.

youtube.com/watch?v=vUavTdv0qX0

here is a simple video explaining what OP is going on about.

revise to 21 and yes. drinking age

The sooner you realize you're chasing a girl who wants to just fuck around like most guys do at a young at the easier it will be to move on. If you're going to be a slut yourself what exactly makes you think a girl who hasn't slept around wants anything to do with you? You get what you put into it.

Upfront sex sounds pretty good to me. If I were you Id fuck as many as possible and not get tied down. Im old and married. The only pussy I regret is what I passed up on

Smart devices are the Antichrist.
They will destroy the youth of humanity...
The social behaviour that’s perpetuating from using these devices is resulting in an epidemic of mental illness.
I’m glad I accomplished most of my goals before this sickness enveloped the civilized world

I remember the first caller ID commercial I saw and knew it was going to fuck my Friday night plans real bad. Only had another year or so of prank calls before everyone had one.

Dating is easier now than ever. I remember having to go to bars and the library to pick up women because I never came across any at my job. I was lucky to get a number a week. Now I'm 40 and fucking 18 year olds like God intended.

Teach me your ways.

It's called tinder. It's an app you put on your phone and you put your finger on a profile picture and swipe right on good looking girls and left on ugly ones.

Honestly this is really the case. The internet has enabled a bunch of poorly motivated people to exist in echo chambers that reinforce their self-destructive behaviors.

But if you just ignore all of those people of either gender, the dating scene is not bad at all.

It's similar to how the abundance of resources we have leads to a bunch of people getting fat, but you also have the resources to look up optimal workout routines and/or diets. It's your choice to fail or succeed at this point.

real talk right here

You don't try pal. But how do you break the cycle, you burn her, she burns the next guy and the world turns...

>The sooner you realize you're chasing a girl who wants to just fuck around

Heres the thing, I've being upfront with them and told them hey I'm looking for something serious and they agree. 4 months later and I'm ghosted because they are still swiping right. It's an addiction for people. Not me though.

I'm looking to get tied down, can't feel sex so there's little to point to me fucking around. Good luck and enjoy it. I regret the consistency I passed up on. But that's me out of it, don't like it, don't get it anymore. Going on gear and becoming a unit.

It all went downhill when women were given the right to vote. Other cultures still view women as chattel, which they are, but try telling them that. As women power up things will only get worse overall. Only when women are put in their place will order be restored.

>Im an incel

> " >he thinks feminism started in the 60s " ;
the only " feminist " things that occurred before the 1960's were:

(a) the "Suffragette" movement that basically campaigned for the right of a woman to cast a political vote; and
(b) during WWII when women started to do industrial manufacturing ( that was previously considered to be the sole preserve of male workers) simply because the vast majority of able bodied men had been conscripted into military service in defence of their country and were (mostly) stationed abroad.

> TL DR #1: try reading some peer reviewed papers that analyse & synthesise documented "modern" history in the 20th century.

> TL DR #2: GTFO faggot

Oh I've long quit trying

The last time I dated was in the 1990s, so I have no basis for comparison. All I know about modern dating is what I've seen on Shameless.

the jewery in all the media!

This. Also that woman is reaping what she sowed and will die alone. Take note millennials.

She married a fucking ballet dancer? Gee I wonder why she divorced him...

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I mean, yeah... Tinder and shit didn't help, but fucking hell it sucks now.

ITT: incel sperglords and christian incel sperglords trying to figure out why no women wants to touch them.

>Old fags who dated
>who dated
>Pepe Oldfag Wizard
wtf would you know?

nah, years back just go to a bar or church, now the girls at the bar or church are on their phones getting flooded by DMs and texts (or Tinder messages....)

I'm 40 and that's the hardest part, just not attracted to old women (which is women my age) so I am stuck with the young nutjobs (or fatties or someone looking for a dad for their kids)

Sexual revolution made them all "Free" anyway. Problem is, if they want to fuck, they just have to swipe right a few times.

You can still pick up girls at bars. It's not that hard.

>oldfag here

Dating turned into a shitshow about 120,000 years ago, shortly after our ancestors left Africa. It's been going downhill ever since.

That sucks fam

Christ, I'm glad to be married, all I ever have to do when in a fight is read one of these threads and I got the energy and patience to keep making it work. Off to tell her I love her right now

>hey I'm looking for something serious and they agree. 4 months later and I'm ghosted because they are still swiping right. It's an addiction for people. Not me though.
The vietnam war was probably the worst thing that happened to this country.

If you don't mind settling, again, the decent looking girls had 40 offers on her phone while you said hello.(or she could go back to one of her standbys)

>out of Africa shitter
What is this, the year 2000?

It wasn't as bad before smartphones. People legitimately talked in public

>Shitty personality nobody cares about her has to trap a husband and have kids to make something that's predisposed to care about her

I'm glad she clarified that she's a meme and that having a family is a result of boredom for her

honestly, i was kinda poking fun. men and women have both always been crazy, at least some number of them. it seems we have lost the ability to speak to each other, it goes like this: we are talking, the phone chirps, the conversation stops. when it starts up again, she can't remember what we were talking about, so new conversation. until her phone chirps... rinse and repeat. it's like the smartphone has reduced our attention span to 5 seconds. and sadly, this seems to apply to all ages.

then, and now, everything i do is through personal interaction, no online/app needed. adn i mean dating/hooking up. if i can't get her to put her phone down, i don't stand a chance anyway. or she'll pull some shit like check facebook messenger or her texts while we're fucking. that's my fave... "hold on a sec, i gotta check my facebook." "but we're having sex?" "yeah, my friend just sent me a funny meme. look at this shit! and i think that's photoshopped." me, thinking: why do i bother sometimes. "oh look, a crying cat!" me: """sigh""" "i'm gonna make a sandwich, want one?"

Why do people have to live with someone and have someone there for them 24/7 to not feel lonely? I see a friend once a week and that's all I need

This is pretty much true.... attention span and regular conversation went out the window years ago. Dating pre cell phones (50 yr old fag here) was easier in a way. Plus, people were not all whacked out on happy pills and tons of other crap back then. I do think smart devices/internet loosened a lot of things up sexually for the masses, which is good! Having returned to dating after a 20yr break (was with someone) it's very different. I had always given Millennial chicks a bad rap. Now that I'm back in school for another Med degree I'll say the M Gals are a ton of fun! But then I also bang 50 somethings which is also a ton of fun.

that's called being needy and insecure. people who aren't needy and insecure are fine with being alone. if they want to hang out or take a date to dinner, they do.

> "... wtf would you know? " ;
I sort of went on a date in 1992
(but she didn't turn up).
HTH

A question ive been asking my whole life bud...

Most people are needy and insecure then, otherwise there wouldn't be so many married people

i am 50 as well, my relationships never saw 20 years, but i've had more than zero 7 year relationships. the m chicks that are fun can put their phones down. at least that's what i have found. my specialty, since i was 16, is lonely 40-somethings with a kid or two. married or not, they are unhappy with their sex lives. and i am happy to be part of the remedy!

'60s-'70s... but ...

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nah even as far back as the 30's and 40's dating was fucked

Right around the time social media and online dating dropped. Then a second can of gasoline was added with tinder and such.

I think you must be a bit idiot for thinking that having kids will replace your social skills. I've been with the same woman for 13 long years, we had a child (4yo now) and we separated three months ago. Having kids will not prevent you to feel alone and not having them will make you social. I've felt really alone at home, with my kid and my wife on the same room. Having my kid far away now make me miss him so much, but not the mother. You must have a social life, a family life and a professional life. Living is just try to make a perfect balance

it was always trash.

we can just see it all now with our interconnectivity

see the thing is she's just complaining about it for attention because c'mon
if anons in this thread would hit it/date let's not say actual fucking people she bumps shoulders with
famous people, people with money and positions of power that would probably wife her up as well but she, just as she didn't then, doesn't want to submit

For everybody bitching about hypergamy, just remember that men who have the ability will typically engage in their own form of it. They will try to fuck as many hot women as possible and discard them as quickly as they picked them up. People who are this superficial deserve each other.

I want a girl who is pretty but not so pretty that all the value she has is placed on her appearance.

In the 1960's when we stopped segregation.

it sucks because you're a sperg

in other words, you know nothing. pathetic.