Why do the democrats want open borders?

democrats are already demanding to lower the age required to vote. they know that liberalism is mainly a rebellious phase that most kids go through

>votes & white genocide
>but mainly votes

You think an undocumented immigrant will commit a felony in the hopes that their single vote will make a difference?

LOL

>You think an undocumented immigrant will commit a felony in the hopes that their single vote will make a difference?
Their plan is for anchor babies to vote blue and open voter restrictions up to non-citizens.

> For us, it's a matter of the basic human right to free movement on this planet.
That's pretty fucking stupid, but I'll indulge you.
What are your feelings on property rights?

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Why did you steal my image for such a shit attempt

I cannot wait to see the day Democracy falls.

This.

Civil war cannot come soon enough.

Just like Cap vs. Iron Man id say! Eventually people will have to choose a side.

You could just skip ahead and move to Africa. They have that already.

>What are your feelings on property rights?
It's very complicated, and far too detailed to get into on this message board.
But to be clear, by "free movement" I don't mean unrestricted free movement on every square foot of the globe.
It just mean that every person should be born with the same right of movement.

Be honest; who would you say has the stronger family, a man that has only ever been married to one woman, and has two children with her, or a man that has 5 kids with 3 different wives, who cheated on his current wife with at least 2 different women?

Not 'only', but mostly, yes.

Because liberals hate white people and want to breed them out of existence so they can have their turn at the top of the food chain. And this isn’t even a troll, new studies have been coming out recently showing that white people are the only race with an outward bias, meaning they’re the only race who hates themselves, so yes even the white liberals want to commit white genocide.

You clearly missed his point entirely

No one with any real profile is calling for lowered voting age. Stop parroting ridiculous /pol/ breitbart idiocy.

it is not a matter of bias that is merely a distraction from the bigger picture... something to tear us apart as a people so we cannot unite to make change.

>It just mean that every person should be born with the same right of movement.
Where exactly do you think "Rights" come from?
By what means is every living person granted them?

movement from one country to another is not a right it is a privledge. granted by the desired destinations rulers of course

>a man that has only ever been married to one woman
Replace that with "22 year old single mother" and "Couple with 3 furbabies

because they have to do the exact opposite of what trump does. because they their hearts bleed too much and the think its the humanitarian thing to do.

these candidates who are proposing decriminalizing illegal border crossings have NO HOPE in getting elected, its crazy

Kamala Harris doesn't have a real profile? And granted I don't know this for sure, but I wouldn't be surprised if that faggot Bernie calls for this too.

I dont hate myself and would much prefer to live in predominately white neighborhoods but I can't seem to find many

i hope so. but literally all but one of them does, so maybe just by sheer odds one that does support that could get elected.

Do lets be honest with ourselves shall we? As a civilized race of creatures, we as humans are destined to be ruled. We need a form of government, we need a leader. Rights are sometimes an understatement when faced with whats more important for safety and a strong economy.

Biden is the only dem candidate that even uses the word "illegally", the rest of them refuse to call them that and keep saying "immigrants"

go back to /pol shill

Democracy cares too much about the petty things while stressing a weakened economy. The peak of empires. A council's last words.

their kids can, and they have a much higher birth rate than citizens

>Where exactly do you think "Rights" come from?
>By what means is every living person granted them?

Strange questions that leads me to suspect you don't understand my usage of the term "right".

When I say, "I believe all people have the right to free expression", it is a statement of my values. I don't need to specify the means by which every person is — or even could potentially be — granted the freedom to exercise this right.

Clearly, many people are born into societies where they are not free to exercise this right. Nonetheless, it is my belief that they *should* be.

Not a single politician from the democratic party is pushing a policy for open borders. Better question is why do Republican idiots keep asserting misinformation about the democratic party? You think asserting a strawman and burning it down means anything?

All this complaining. Just start the thermal nuclear war aleady and see what is birthed from the ashes.

OP is an outright liar.

>Not a single politician from the democratic party is pushing a policy for open borders. Better question is why do Republican idiots keep asserting misinformation about the democratic party?
Because lying keeps working for them. Their base is stupid enough to eat it all up unquestioningly.

its not a strawman. most of the candidates support the idea of decriminalizing illegal border crossings.

>Nonetheless, it is my belief that they *should* be.
And I am asking you "Why?".

Let's skip past the fact that your position is ideological to a point of non-practicality, and arguably at total odds with human nature.
You still provide no justification to what I assume to be the intrinsic worth you propose that every human possesses.

Illegals aren't supposed to be here at all, but they allow it and look the other way. Just like when they cast that blue vote. We are going to be at constant odds until the illegal alien business stops. Literally nothing will ever get done.

Boomers sure are scared of little brown people.

Boomers would rather pass down the society they created to their own kin.

>little brown people.
Forced permanent demographic changes, with a largely incompatible culture, that votes ONE way

How can Republicans simultaneously believe that Democrats want open borders and also deflect any criticism of harsh border control policies by saying that Obama did it too?

Written by a guy who either lives with his mom or his girlfriend pays all the bills.

"Brown people" who are violent monkeys that vote for socialist bullshit, you forgot that part

>deflect any criticism of harsh border control policies
I would personally prefer they are shot on sight and end the mess for good.

Because it's a blatant double standard

Oh but they can, see motor voter, at least in California.

Because they want to be an elite. But they lack any kind of competence to reach it. So they need to import an even lower caste to take charge over.

What democracy are you speaking of, exactly?

Because Democrats are hypocrites and changed their "beliefs" when the orange man agreed with them and they found out immigrants vote Democrat by 90%

Because those femnazi sluts dont want to be reminded of how tight theor vaginas were before the strap on gapings from the dykes indoctrinating then into Liberalism

do explain.

He is not telling the truth.

Open borders would allow seasonal migrant workers to come to California and work on farms and then go back home. That's what they used to do until Reagan closed the borders in the 80s. After that, they had to stay because it became too difficult to go back and forth. They are mostly coming here for work so open borders would allow them to come and work and then leave.

And what does it have to do with votes? I know that Republicans love to claim that illegal aliens vote Democrat but so far there has been no legitimate evidence that any illegal aliens have voted.

10 years ago I would say move here to Boise, but now California is mass migrating here and fucking everything up.

refusing to pass legislation or funding for the border when the current laws force us to let people into the U.S. is absolutely open borders policy

I do recall AOC tearing trump a new asshole.

well, tell us the part that he's not telling the truth about.

you might want to talk to the senate about not passing legislation

That seems like some very convoluted and implausible logic.

Democrats are playing at a game of demographic replacement and using hispanic familial bonds and anchor babies to generate a centuries worth of blue voters.

NO democrat is calling for open borders.

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speaking of anchor babies

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more people live in cities, wow

>Illegals can't vote
Require ID at the polls. See how long that will last before the ACLU screams 'Muh racism!'

nigger guess im a nazi

nypost . com/2019/06/18/aocs-latest-only-nazis-oppose-open-borders/

Yes, they are, and it's a boldfaced lie to pretend that's not what they're advocating.

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Saying that Republicans are lieing but can never back up the claim. Next he will start parroting his celebrity heroes by calling conservatives Nazis. Just keep copy pasting from your friends, it's all libs do.

So they're trying to turn Florida, Texas, and Arizona into blue states. Yeah that was already obvious.

Ya, they just want an infinite "asylum" loophole, cry asylum, regardless of where you come from, and bam, you are in... i wanna see how this is economically sustainable. everyone show up and get their free shit, meanwhile we are $22T+ in debt.

yes, you likely have a lot in common with nazis

Talks about "new studies" but doesn't cite them. That means the studies could be fabricated, could be misinterpreted, could have included poor methodology. Never believe someone who cites studies and doesn't tell you what the studies are. Like Reagan said "trust but verify"

I see an editorial putting words in her mouth. Otherwise they would have directly quoted her.

they support a pathway to citizenship for the undocumented that are already here so once they start voting democrat they wont be illegal anymore

Where's the proof?

Now you're just being a scare mongering retard.

its certainly not the republicans holding up border bills

watch the second debate. and see how many of them raised their hand when asked if they'd decriminalize illegal border crossings.

How are any of those anchor babies?

because blacks aren't voting the way they're supposed to.

>And I am asking you "Why?"
You are asking my why I believe all human beings should be considered equal at birth in the eyes of the law, regardless of where they were born or who their parents are?

There's no easy answer to why I prefer fairness to unfairness, because it's so fundamental.

You might as well ask why I think kindness is preferable to unkindness, or why I think murder is wrong. There's no easy way answer these questions, yet at the same time, these values are self-evident.

The fact that they've begun referring to immigrants in broad as "asylum seekers" and demanding access to the country for all of them.

Because you beat off to trannies.

They're not on his team, that's how

strong boarders?
traditional family values?
basic bitch conservatism?
liberty?
a liking to the arts?
animal rights?
drinking water?

jeez now im going to 1488 and shove a broom up my jewish accountants ass cuz im such a nazi.

>There's no easy answer to why I prefer fairness to unfairness, because it's so fundamental.
>these values are self-evident.
This is why I can't take you seriously. Any ounce of critical thought on these stances and your framework completely falls to pieces. Your only defense is to deflect the question entirely.

Not exactly. Do you see any sign of it slowing down? You can't debunk it., so you try to put the onus on me as a "fearmonger". Tell me, what about the health of the country too? Diseases are coming back that used to be eradicated here, lets just accept them all back in and end up with epidemics all over again.

Theres more this than just "good feels", there is a strong negative component that everyone is trying to ignore.

Miami is a microcosm of what they are trying to do and it's not looking good for them. They are 90% Hispanics now, everyone knows to avoid it for a tourist location now and they are now trending republican to try to right the ship. They've dropped the dry/wet foot bullshit and Miami is no longer a sanctuary city.

Boarders are just dumb lines in the sand. Childish concept. Abolish boarders.

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god i hate democrats. i hope they all get culled in the civil war.

why do republicans believe propaganda? without even trying to exercise the slightest critical thinking?

Why do you think they want to give all of these people citizenship so badly, while at the same time not wanting that question on the census? It's because the 11 million figure is bullshit and if the real number came out, people would be outraged. What they did to California is exactly what they're trying to do with those 3 states, hence why amnesty is not on the table anymore.

>This is why I can't take you seriously. Any ounce of critical thought on these stances ...

OK, I'm done wasting my time engaging someone on the Internet who is incapable of logical discourse.

I can lead the horse to water, but I can't fix stupid. Enjoy the rest of your sad existence, user.

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Here's what my elementary school looks like now. Miami used insane amounts of nonsense 'rules' to keep it's border open to Cuba. That's the result and I will likely never set foot in my hometown again, exiled in my own country.

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enjoy losing 2020, faggot.

If they had critical thinking skills they wouldn't be Republicans.

And before anyone replies to this assuming I'm defending Democrats, fuck Democrats too. Some of them suck less than Republicans but both parties are way too right-wing.

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based. better start stockpiling now.

>who is incapable of logical discourse.
Your idea of "Logical discourse" is saying "I refuse to answer that question" and then declaring the moral high-ground.

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That's actually decent for a spic school, but given how some states/cities have fudged the stats to make those schools "look" better, I wouldn't trust it

seething discord tranny

>both parties are way too right-wing
Not anymore faggot

"Waaaah I don't wanna go there cuz there are brown people there!!" Lmao how fragile can you get?

>but both parties are way too right-wing.
Oh lord...

>Why do the democrats want open borders?
They don't.

brown people act like subhuman savages

Fuck discord. FOSS clan gang for life.

The entire white and black population didn't leave because they are good neighbors.

Why do idiots think that's what anyone wants?

Easy to say when your kike ass doesn't have to do it or live near those subhumans. Why don't liberals ever practice what they preach?

What if it's not an act?

why do trolls make this same strawman thread everyday?

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Dude go outside and talk to people.

>liberals
Fuck liberals.

Puerto Ricans did the same shit to the Bronx in NYC. The truth is spics are subhuman trash and ruin every place they move into in large numbers. Literally every place they live in the US is a ghetto dump.

Why does your mom want open borders spam magat?

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I bet you drive a honda and hire mexicans to replace your roof

>I bet you drive a honda
Nope, only spics and kikes drive those cars

sorry for thr low effort post.
its very clear to see aoc is open boarders considering her stance on the boarder wall. she outright refuses the construction of the wall and denounces the conditions at these immigration processing centres. these do not make her anti boarders but it does show that she wants to oppose plans which supports a strong boarder.
her calling the immigration processing centres "concentration camp" insinuates that these camps are the same to the camps in nazi germany which is false, for obvious reasons i dont have to explain. she denied the extra funding at the boarder which includes funding the immigration camps which she condemned.
she opposes ICE which is literally police trying to enforce immigration policies and calls for the abolition of it. althought i have problems with police violence in america, a country without people who enforce the laws are even worse.

also this

washingtontimes. com/news/2016/jul/6/democrats-vote-defend-sanctuary-cities/

So hordes of dark faced Catholics sleep on your suburban lawn and steal your berry picking jabs.

Explain why they where on board when Obama was saying it and now scream racist when orange man says it? Fuck Democrats and fuck trump. You assholes deserve the government you elect.

To replace all of the niggers with minorities that actually work.

Yep. Miami got so bad they made TV shows and movies about the carnage. But we're just racist for not wanting to live with them...

das a cute AOC

Why does it matter where someone was born? Shouldn't people be able to move to whatever part of the world they want to? Just because someone was lucky enough to be born in the USA others should not be able to live there? That's like some moronic Kim Kardasian shit. I was born to wealthy parents so I deserve a better life than anyone else.

>Your idea of "Logical discourse" is saying "I refuse to answer that question" and then declaring the moral high-ground.
Sounds like somebody didn't actually read the thread.

Look it up then dipshit. Voter fraud is a very uncommon crime and their is a database with every documented case. Election fraud however is not uncommon and the gop committed plenty of it in 2018.

1) Their children can

2) Dems want a quick pathway to citizenship and thus voting

3) Some illegal migrants vote, although presumably not as significantly as the far right might imagine

4) There exists social/political pressure in the favor of illegal migrants for those that are not voting--e.g., the 2020 census

>If they had critical thinking skills they wouldn't be Republicans.
This is, sadly, very true.

It is the logical end of the great Southern strategy. Whereas stupid used to be pretty evenly allocated between the two parties, it now dominates the Right.

With the Dixiecrat migration to the Republican party coming to completion in the past decade or so, Eisenhower Republicans no longer feel welcome.

The result: an exodus of reasonable and educated Republicans. Only a core of mindless red hats remains.

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>>Shouldn't people be able to move to whatever part of the world they want to?

No

>No

Says the child, grandchild or great-grandchild of immigrants to the United States.

Same reason most republicans want it, because its what wallstreet wants. If you track where the migrants end up living vs where union participation has broken down you see some pretty interesting patterns. Importing lots of different groups means instead of 1 united group at the bottom of society you have several groups with completely different cultures, ideals and political objectives. Makes it easy to subjugate them, keeping property valuable, low skill labor cheap ensuring that the share of the wealth the upper classes enjoy continues to grow at the expense of the working classes share.

you're right about that actually. But the answer is still no

They don’t. They mainly just don’t want asylum seekers kept in concentration camps like they are now.

Because Republicans want closed borders.

>concentration camps
You know, when you call detention centers "concentration camps", it only makes you people look like fucking retards

People make the places they come from and they bring those traits with them.The West isn't a magical place that is just like this normally, our culture built it. Our work ethic, brains, strength, drive and loyalty to eachother built it. If they don't plan to come legally and FULLY integrate, they are not welcome.

Why don't Trumptards understand AOC isn't running for president?

This is very likely part of it. I feel like the leadership of the dems, sat down in 2012 and made a list of everything white people dislike and just mad that their platform.

what, you got tired of posting andy sixx, so now this every 2 hours?
Either you are a troll who posts
THE
SAME
CRAP
EVERY
HOUR

or

You are just like someone who does.

either way, not very original.

no nation's no borders. only spread assholes

Not a single elected politician in the United States has said they want open borders.

and young professionals.

please stop trying to speak logically to the trumptards. It confuses them and they start repeating 3 work phrases they hear at the klan, I mean trump rallies

kelso voice : BURN

and dumbshits you drive fords.
And pay more in repair bills after 4 years than I paid for my: Toyota, Honda, Nissan......

They should be used as anchors, At least they would serve a purpose then

Easier access to black cock dear

left an right are both evil

its simple, suck the finances out of the people. while investing it abroad

unless im the crazy fuck here, but open borders is a bad thing, except to the corrupt and naive fucks in office

Because they know that most of the states are sick of their shit so the only real chance they have of gaining power is giving Central Americans everything they want and then letting them. Similar to LBJ’s trick to getting niggers to vote Democrat for 50 years

>thinking this small

not much unlike you cooter?

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I’m mixed

but they fucking do

remember when Obama went on TV and told them to get out and vote and the government would do nothing

youtube.com/watch?v=nfgEvgVC6Qs

guess you missed the hundreds of Democrat including officials arrested for voter fraud

or the raids of Democrat voter registration drives

and that was just 2016 lol

They dont , they were all against immigration until Trump started talking about it. The blacks and union people view immigrants as a direct threat to there job's. Trump using his Trupyness to make them do the opposite of what they should.
youtu.be/vt_tSdybaXI

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>I’m mixed
mixed up?
mixed inbred race?
mixed species?

>it's rhetorical, we all know you are "special"

>Sounds like somebody didn't actually read the thread.
What's there to read? The "Free movement" guy is a philosophically shallow queer. Nothing about "fairness" or "unfairness" is self-evident, and it's phenomenal that he'd suggest it is.

>Here's some fresh shit I just pulled out my ass. Have a bite.

Money.

>we

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>guess you missed the hundreds of Democrat including officials arrested for voter fraud

is that what hannity told you? or alex jones?

hundreds?

even if true, HUNDREDS not going to make a difference.

not like the 10,000's vlad gave to trump

exactly how normal people see you trumptards.

I'm actually mostly on board with your opinions. But you're method of argument is retarded. You can't just say "because I believe it" when pressed to give an explanation for those beliefs.

Plus, your analogy of why murder is wrong being difficult to explain leads me to believe that you don't actually think about what you believe, and even if I agree with you, you shouldn't make statements of fact or value if you don't know how to support it.

It makes me guess that you've never been pressed on the issue. You're like someone who believes the holocaust happened, but you can't defend that position against someone who doesn't. They may be wrong, but they know more about it than you do, and you look like an idiot when you can't answer basic questions.

My advice: stop. Read a book. Don't just know what you believe. Understand why you believe it, otherwise you're no good to anyone.