A chick I used to work with claimed her husband raped her...

cause you are entitled to not have sex when you do not want it, even when asked by your husband.
if this goes on for too long, there is some bigger issue that needs to be resolved.
if any party refuses to take action to resolve, this marriage is no longer functional.

if the husband then goes ahead and forces sex, it is considered rape. as in any other relation ship

Not act like a wild animal and have some self control

How do you know she's pissy about masturbation? You're making a scenario that isn't real but would make your argument easier to defend

Find a new wife. Why the fuck are you telling your wife it's jack off time?

Go suck his dick if it makes you feel better.

>She'll be pissy if he jacks off

I'm sure they'd rather their partner jack off than fucking rape them you dip

Pinning somebody down and fucking them against their will is this hard to understand?

These are our retarded peers in 2019.

>That's because you asked a pretty stupid fucking question.

It isn't really stupid. Throughout the history of English common law, there have always been exemptions for martial "rape." It wasn't until the last few decades, thanks to psychotic feminists, has it become illegal. They will do anything to break up the family and make women reliant on the state.

i agree

Geniune question though you cucks

>when I genuinely brought up "how can a husband rape his wife?" all hell broke loose

This retard made this inquiry at work. That's pretty fucking stupid.

Is this what we do now? Fire people over retarded questions? Sure your question is retarded, but nothing worth getting fired over. I'd sue.

Sue the company for wrongful termination you asked a question that wasn't harrassment by any means. If she was raped must not have that bad if she was speaking of it openly and still made it in to fucking work

OP is a retarded incel

Good luck in life Op, you're gonna need it.

Moral fag the incel is his boss

Cuck

Fucking right

Youve been raised by cousins.

Well, you are a moron. Why should a husband not be able to rape his wife? Sex without consent is rape. Does not matter if you are married.

You can’t rape your wife. I mean you literally could if you were a monster. But in reality, a wife is there for her husband and vice verse. At least that’s the way it’s supposed to be, especially sexually.

It's only a legitimate question if you view women as less than men you chauvinist incel fucks.

Happy to hear that you lost your job. Hope somebody will also beat you up brutally.
Your wife is not your property. So it is not a fleshlight. It is a human being.

I'm glad you did, I actually laughed hahaha

>resulting in me eventually losing my job
i hope this isn't just a troll and that you really lost your job.

But if a woman wants to financially rape(enslave) her husband, the courts are only too happy to help with that.

This.

Moral fag neck yourself

if you are this retarded you shouldn't be trusted with a job lol

Women are just holes to stick your dick in only incels view them otherwise

lmao equating child support and alimony to rape. As if the two are even remotely similar

Women are literally for men to use if

How does it feel that your mommy was right, that no woman would ever love you like she could? What a sad, scared man you must be.

>other people aren't your property
>assault and battery against people is okay if they're being insensitive

Fragile, male ego

I hope OP does this so he can be shown up as a retard in court too and bankrupt himself

Your right a man is entitled to use his belongings (his wife) while alimony and child support she's taking from her ex husband which is much worse

I am totally fine with people who think spousal rape is OK getting their asses kicked

Ok tumblrina go neck yourself

Sad little man. How scared you must be of women to equate them to property

c'mon everyone replying to this moldy incel bait

Forcibly taking the fruits of one's labor for years is less of a crime than fucking them.once against their will.
You're literally defending legalised slavery.

No he would win you retard it's not harrassment or anything he didn't threaten her or anything so no reason he should have beem fired

They literally are though thats why you give them a ring to show others that she is yours to do with as you please

As if women don't see men as property.
Ever watch a woman marry then divorce a rich man?

Marriage is a partnership. Once you are married everything is 50-50 unless you contract otherwise. If you don't like it don't get married.

If you don't want to pay child support than don't knock someone up.

Blaming women for their own choices when they get raped but don't blame men for their own choice when they get divorced or get someone pregnant lol.

>"how can a husband rape his wife?"

That was a pertinent question in the 70s. Where the hell have you been for the last fifty years?

>marriage is consent.

The courts disagree.

There's definitely female scumbags. But if you are equating golddiggers to rapists then you are the definition of an incel

'If a man is enslaved by a woman, enforced by the state, it's his own fault for getting himself in that situation'

'If a woman gets married and her husband fucks her against her will, it's also the man's fault.'

Everything is 50/50, except for the ability of women to ennslave the man afterwards.

it's perverted to view them as equal

I almost feel bad for you. Who hurt you? Unrequited love in your formative years? The pretty girl you had a crush on in high school hooked up with the football captain at a party?

The essential argument from the 'woke' whiteknights ITT is that it's permissible for women to take from men, but not permissible for men to take from women.

yo this bait worked out great lmao

you should be his lawyer for extra lulz

No women are just for fucking plain and simple you probably put pussy on a pedestal and that's why you don't get laid. You are an incel without a doubt

Thank you all. You guys have made me realize how toxic this place is and convincned me to leave for good.

I truly hope you all make it through whatever emotional problems you seem to have. The world would be a better place. Good luck

How old are you? Genuinely curious.

Marrying someone doesn't mean sex on demand lol. If the wife says no and you force sex on her, it's rape by definition. It has nothing to do with feminism or whatever these incels are suggesting. It's the same as taping a girlfriend or friend or whatever

"Rape" can't steal what you already own you fag couldn't have been raped that bad if she was at work she was just attention whoring like a majority of "rape" victims.

>marriage means everything is 50/50

>meaning the woman has the right to half of everything the man owns, and the man has no right to anything the woman owns

Yeah i would get a good sized check from it too

This all day

Good don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out nigger lover

he does if she was wealthier than him

Kill yourself when you're done dilating, fag.

The wedding ring is not a collar. The wedding ring is not a mark of property. The wedding ring is a symbol of infinity. The ring symbolizes eternity with the person, and their connected to your HEART. The ring is worn on the 4th finger because the veins in this finger was believed to connect directly to the HEART. You know, that thing you have to have to love someone? That thing thats supposed to stop you from raping people and treating them as subhuman?

Love requires RESPECT. Respect means acknowledging that they are a human being and have their own autonomy and belong to nobody but themselves. That's why it's legal and possible to divorce someone, because they retain autonomy even in a marriage. If you love your wife, you wouldn't truly want to rape her. Rape is an act of violence and control, if you are marrying someone you are RELINQUISHING control, not gaining it. You are saying "I am choosing to unify myself with another person, although I retain autonomy, I am using that autonomy to combine myself with another person in order to achieve a greater purpose"
Your wife does not exist to be your fuck toy unless thats ehat she expressed her desire to be before you got married.
Just like you do not exist to mow the lawn every time she wants you to.

Tl/dr; If your wife doesn't put out, divorce her and find someone who wants sex as much as you do. Don't degrade the civility of modern society with your nigger logic.

I married a Mexican woman who promised me before we got married that she would never tell me no. if her pussy is medically incapable of handling sex I give her a break but any other time even at 2 in the morning when she's passed out asleep I can tap her on the shoulder and say give me some pussy and the legs fucking spread. I suggest you find yourself a nice little doormat like I did. I nut 3x a day in that pussy I get blowjobs whenever I fucking ask, and I've came in her ass three times so far this month.

You don't own her brainlet

These same white knights whine endlessly about black enslavement, and tell men that being robbed by their ex is their own fault

Taking what wasn't earned by you is no different than rape.

Fun fact, keep your opinions to yourself at work. Whether you're right or wrong, if someone takes offence it fucks everything up.

This is why you never get married. Women used to be property, now it's a scam for them to legally rob you.

Imagine believing you're entitled to someone else's money by virtue of being their Fleshlight.

Funny, that wedding ring certainly is a collar for a man when the relationshop ends. Suddenly, the woman has a right to everything he ever earned himself, because he put a ring on her finger.

If he murders her, she can't leave him and her status by law is degraded to an object one can own. So maybe OP has a dead whore in his house?

Alimony sounds hella retarded. I legitimately can't see why it would be issued in a divorce, it's simply unfair.

Imagine believing that women are only flashlights

Fuck modern society too many PC faggots and cucks. Do you kiss your boyfriend on the lips after he fucks your mouth?

ITT

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In sickness and in health even if your sick you WILL take this dick

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manager here: I would have fired you on the spot. Your caveman mentality will forever keep you mired in career mediocrity.

You're correct. Modern women are useless even as fleshlights. Defending them isn't going to earn you points towards some pussy, you little beta.

They are

shit-tier bait

You showed him. He won't be working at THAT McDonald's

Nobody believes you faggot enjoy flipping burgers at McDonald's you beta faggot

You forgot the part of fucking her without condom and making her preggo. Your fault, use condoms and don't get kids

Op, please stop the samefagging, it is slowly getting cringy

ha, I wish I worked somewhere with some greasy food

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what am I samefagging? I just joined this thread shit-for-brains

A woman's only power is her pussy. When you forcibly take that from her she knows she has nothing left to use as leverage.

If a woman is raped it's because she's weak.

Again, it's only the man's fault for fucking.
Women who bail on their kids are barely prosecuted or pursued for child support, and even when they are ordered to pay, the amount is almost nothing.

Force that bitch to get an abortion she's your personal fucktoy can't have her getting worn out from popping out a kid

even more samefaggotry

bottom right shows unique poster, you mongrel, and people in the thread can see the update, or in the case of your post: the not-update

Even when there are no kids involved, the man is enslaved afterwards.

Nobody cares about your mcjob, fag.

I repeat: what posts am I samefagging?

Jesus christ you wish you worked at McDonald's? That confirms you have an even shittier job

How? She says no and you force her. How else do you think you fucking moron. What, do you need a dictionary or something?

I got multi tagged twice with other people who think OP is a retard. Think theres a pissed incel sperging out that thinks were all the same person.

Get a log of this guy

you try sitting in front of a computer all day working in a shitty system like devex

You own her she can't say no how don't you get that?

This. Their sexual market value is a womans only real worth.

Your post didn't change the counter, so you were at least posting once already in this thread, faggot. And based on your post of being a "manager", you are most likely OP

Reminder if you rape a stupid bitch, kill her afterwards. Nobody cares that you raped her when you cut her head off.

yes I do own her
she disobeyed me just once, it was few weeks after our wedding.
I dislocated her both arms and broke her 5 ribs while beating the shit out of her. Magic worked and since then she do whatever I ask her to do and only what I allow her to do. I picked her friends, I chose names for our children, I tell her how her hair should look like or what clothes she is allowed to wear. She is there for me 24/7, I don't give a fuck about her headaches or cramps. I don't care if I hurt her, she learned to spread her legs on command.
There is no rape in our marriage.

oh fuck I forgot about the "no more than 1 unique post per thread" rule! I AM SO SORRY

I'm not saying you should like tie your wife up and rape her but what are you saposed. To do. As someone who is married and the fact that society will ruin your life if you have sex with someone besides your wife and there can be legal ramifications but my wife hase absolutely no sex drive what can I do besides force the issue with her. I'd never rape her but sometimes I do have to pin her down or against the wall and force her pants and panties off In order to get things started when I'm horny or I woukd never get to have sex. Is it fair that someone can force a person to be celibate for the rest of theur life. They bolth are forcibly controlling someone's sex life. You can't say one is horrible and one is perfectly fine.

ah the fantasies people entertain

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Immagine you are with your wife and she drug you and when you woke up you were on your bed restrained unable to move and the bitch started fisting you in the ass
That would not be nice
I too did not understood how a husband can rape a wife till I tryed thinking it this way
I mean yes it is different but a man is stronger than a woman and a woman is more sensible even to normal fucking soo yea

That's really sad to hear op, that you are so fucking stupid.

I get it if he was beating her over the head to subdue her or something that's not ok, but yeah if she was just say laying in bed and he gets all lubed up and slides in while she's not paying attention that's a different story. Even having said all that, neither situation constitutes as rape since they're married and marriage is basically a ticket of permanent consent.

so you were samefagging.
I don't care what you posted before, but don't post something as cringy as the manager post again, while implying you just joined the thread.

Hurts to know I can take pussy whenever I want, meanwhile you have to beg.

Why is their and indian person here now? Fuck off pajeet

shut up OP

His looks are irrelevant if he's raping tho

indians are the pro rapists of the world. They have gang rapes weekly

Wait, you are OP

weekly? there's a billion of them. if there isn't a gang rape in India going on at any given moment, I'll eat my shoes.

no, you're OP. OP is a faggot, you're a faggot, ergo, you are OP.

I think more women should buy strapons and insist men get dogged the fuck out. Nothing happens to their dicks. No touchies in Le peenz. Just straight anal rape by their wives.

See how that all turns out.

So alot of those gross ass simian children are born because of rape?

Show bobs and pusi to activat windows

For the record, I am actually OP and I've only posted twice (three times now) ITT

Jesus christ is this site full of sandniggers now? They're the only group of people stupid enough to announce their backwards dark ages cultural standards. Do you also wonder why you cant have multiple spouses and fuck little girls? What about not being allowed to fuck animals? Does that make you mad you 600 pound greasy caveman? Just stop being a stupid, dopey eyed, cunt and keep your opinions to yourself. Your failure to succeed in life is due to no one else's fault but your own, take responsibility and grow the fuck up you inbred troglodyte.

I think what OP meant was how can a marriage get to the point where a husband has to rape his wife? Like what type of marriage is that. How the fuck does it even come to that? I would have asked the same thing out of reflex/initial reaction

“...how does a husband rape his wife” like why would he even need to do that???

Lol. It rarely even gets prosecuted.
>Incel
Go back to rebbit faggot. I view them equally. The woman can force intercourse on the man as well.

Does it? Is that what’s happening here?

This is why you don't support gay marriage then right? Cuz some dude could make you his wife and you'd be proper fucked?

I was honestly almost in a situation like this. Me and my ex were watching a movie, it was 12am and she wanted to have sex. I was already tired but agreed to please her. She changes her mind midway through the movie(i really didn’t feel like fucking honestly so I didn’t care). Movie ends and its 2am and Im about to go to sleep, tired as hell......she changes her mind again and wants sex.

I tell her im tired, she gets pissy. I explain to her she should have taken it earlier when I was ready instead of waiting 2 hours later when Im even more tired than I already was...., she gets even more pissy. I say fine, fuck it. We start to have sex, but im obviously not into it. She tries kissing and all of that, but im annoyed. She says “just stop” I keep going telling her you nag me now you want me to stop, fuck that.

She starts crying “can you please just stop.....STOP” ....immediately I dont like where this is going and stop. Relationships are overrated

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OP confirmed a fucking dumbass and having no idea why or how is he a dumbass, lol.

It's a website moron, it doesn't have doors

Guy wears a ring too idiot. Face it, all the hurt and pain that's coming out is for you to figure out. Don't blame others

You marry a women so that she can bare your children, keep up the house and rear the children. Your job as a man is to work, provide and to help rear the children when able. Women are better at raising children men are better at providing necessities. If she wants to have a part-time job to spend to her hearts contentment fine but the bills are the man's responsibility.

The reason why marriage doesn't work today and has record high divorce rates is that that those well defined roles have been perverted to no end.

I've been with my wife for ten years and we have had the longest lasting and happiest marriage out of all of my friends. My feminist friend had the shortest marriage. She's a nice women but clearly has no direction and is suffering a great deal because she refuses to accept her place. That's fine and all, free country. I'd rather accept my role and be happy. My wife is the same way.

You are an idiot and deserve to be fired.

The world is this way because people like you are idiots. But feel free to claim you’re the fuckin victim because you’re too proud to admit that it was your own idiocy that lost you you’re fuckin job. I’m going to tell you something you either might already know or maybe you’re too fuckin stupid to realize or maybe you just don’t fuckin care but, you can’t just say what you want to people. What you say has consequences and in 2019 you just don’t say certain shit. And that’s regardless of what you believe in because people aren’t subject to your goddamn belief system, which means you have to do what all of us adults learned to do years ago. Filter yourself. Honestly, it isn’t hard and who the hell are you to think you shouldn’t? Your freedom of speech doesn’t shield you from the consequences of that speech. So say what you want, dude. Just don’t get surprised if you lose your job or get your teeth kicked in over something you said. And if you’re too stupid to realize it or your brain-mouth filter doesn’t work, maybe a few more lessons like this will sort your dumbass out. Fuckin snowflake man...

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Alimony is akin to rape.

I am unwilling to pay you money just because we used to be married. You feel entitled to my money so you force yourself on my wallet and take what isn't yours.

Pretty similar to being married and forcing yourself on the missus when she doesn't want it because you feel entitled to it because you're used to it.

That doesn't mean either one is right bro..

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When a wife doesnt want to fuck anymore then this means that the man is acting like a woman and the wife took a masculine role. Also when dating stops, having fun stops then how do you expect her to wanna fuck you? Every man who says the wife doesnt wanna fuck is just a reflection of his actions. Plain simple, many wont understand that but from being alpha you are a beta now.

tl:dr

keke tl:dr

>Relationships are overrated

Not really, it's just that American women don't have any idea what they want anymore. They are constantly told they can do anything they want and that responsibility is a 4 letter word.

She wanted what she wanted when she wanted it and it doesn't matter what you wanted even though you owe responsibility to the other party once you have both agreed on something. It's just like anything, if you're agreeing to do something and you make it certain to the other person you can't just pull the rug out from under them last second. You have a responsibility now. Try that shit with party guest or a business partner and see how far it gets you.

They are also told that doing what they have done for thousands of years is WRONG and NOT EMPOWERING! It's basically frowned upon to be barefoot and pregnant even though most women would actually enjoy that.

The trick is to find a somewhat religious women. Religion is one of the few bastions that hold real women. Women that understand their place and know what they want and are given the confidence to go out and get it and keep it once they have it.

>Every man who says the wife doesnt wanna fuck is just a reflection of his actions.

Not 100% of the time but more often than not. I'd agree.

I sense your mouth and lak of self control will lose you more jobs in the future user.

There is a fine art to shutting the fuck up. Especially when it involves a female coworkers personal life. If you don't want to get fired i recommend keeping your opinion about things external to work to yourself.

I know from experience. My mouth regularly gets me in trouble at work. I'm just not stupid enough to comment on anything like your OP.

I hope she was fired as well, who the hell brings up rape at work and doesn't expect to start drama.

Yes you did. Otherwise you wouldn’t be memelords. Fags

Nah, being a woman in the workplace is the best thing ever these days. Talk about whatever shit you want, no consequences, be terrible at your job, force your work onto others, don't even need to do something so simple as be on time. It's pretty fucking bad out there.

I miss 1985 when it was socially acceptable to be complete fucking idiots.

Keeping your opinions to yourself is your best bet. If you're stupid enough to say shit that can get you fired, you probably deserved it. Dumbfuck.

You poor naive faggot.

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Here’s where you are wrong my friend. It’s Russian trolls defending the incel, and being the incel.
By you leaving, you are letting them win. Keep logic here on Yea Forums oh wise one, step up to the schools least we lose this place to them too

wow

Russian trolls my friend

Shut the fuck up russian trolls

retarded cuck

Shilling for both sides I see, Russian trolls sure are hilariously obvious

Nah man is Russian trolls

go back to reddiz you retard

women are just npc for main players to fuck

This is as real as it gets.
Every girl I know is late all the time, takes tons of time off, always finds excuses to not do jack shit.
It's surreal how worthless they are in the workplace most of the time.

Now don't take to mean all of them, but the VAST majority are just complete shit, and they know they can't be fired.

I'd take rape over those two

If a wife wont have sex with her husband he can file divorce and win. Marriage literally means you own your wife and she is your property.

blue pilled fag

if it makes you feel better, in my country's law you literally can't rape your wife. It's impossible by our definition of rape.

The concept of marital rape is just another nail in the coffin of marriage in the west.

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hey tumblarina even if I found the perfect girl she cant beat mama but of course you wouldn't understand being an orphaned sack of shit

100%

Haha, you got fired for meme-ing

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thank God...one less tumblarina

Never get with a woman into pegging then since she'll own your asshole by your logic. Or maybe do since you're obviously a huge faggot

Nice LARP

It's almost as if most women work and also put money into a marriage. How the fuck are you posting from the 1950's

It's interesting how people would rather shrink away from the truth than confront it.

I hope you gain proper perspective and learn why gender roles have always, and will always but present in a high functioning society.

Except most man aren't the sole providers in relationships most of the time

kek retard this is most people with a brain....you liberals are fucking retards....and like the saying goes....Hitler all of the sudden got elected

It's pretty stupid.
It doesn't matter if you're husband and wife. One can still rape the other. Being maried doesn't give you a free of way to rape another person.

It's pretty harsh to get fired over. But it's another level of stupid to think this, let alone mentioning it to her on the workfloor.

whaaaaaaa call the whaaaaambulance.....I cant handle questions

It's a normal thing to ask on reflex because of how bizarre it sounds. It's socially retarded after a moment of thought sure, but OP shouldn't be fired over it.

Cut the shit, the majority of the time the man covers the bills. Sure he might not be able to buy all of the shit she wants like we used to be able to when working wages were built for a high functioning society but that's why she works. She can buy all of the asinine shit she wants to with her own money.

Or maybe sometimes people don't feel like having sex and other people (like OP) are assholes who force them the first time they say no. There doesn't have to be a build up, head ass

A u t i s m

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You sound like you need to think about this a lot.

Meh, if you can get rapped then you shouldn't be married.

A good wife puts out when her man needs it.

I mean you can file for divorce for no reason also. The law isn't run by fucking Catholics.

umm bitch she's his property....he dont need to ask for pussy

based

as a oldfag i am surprised, disgusted and somewhat proud about the replies
god, this place changed so much

>op asks a double-take question because of how weird the situation is
>pretends op was acting like women are property
keep your strawmen somewhere else, nigger

You have never been in a relationship with a woman. Have you ever heard of a joint bank account? You don't make beat little piles of "my money" and "her money". The bill take the money out of it blindy to who earned it.

Then don't be surprised when your lady wants that sweet bootyhole, my dude. She owns it with that certificate lmao

Where i come from a wife denying sex to her husband is solid ground for divorce

Couldn't possibly because women love sending mixed signals due to their predisposition for rough sex.

Rape fantasy is the most common fantasy among women. As men we are conditioned at a young age to recognize "hard to get" play and work with it.

Nothing gets a women playing hard to get wetter than holding her arms back against her will and kissing her. Some of these women are such good actors that it's hard to tell the difference.

Most men air on the side of caution but some are too stupid.

In America most (if not all) are no fault divorce states so like literally any reason is a reason for divorce. Because you don't need one. Idiot.

You expect to be married to a person and not know their sexual preferences? Please never get married.
>Hur dur I've known this person long enough to marry her but I still can't figure out what actually turns her on
The problem is you

I forgot there are 14 year olds on this board.

Can you use the doll to show where daddy touched you?

It’s funny how we [as a society] have to come up with completely new ways of interacting with each other because of the internet. I guess real life is for normies

It took me 5 seconds to realize a husband can rape his wife. I was 10 at the time

kek, is that how your sister was conceived?

Rough sex is not rape.
You can only rape a girl if she explicitly told you it's ok to do so.
Ergo, it's never ok. Because it becomes roleplay when there is consent. So it isn't rape.

I'm in a happily married relationship. We celebrated our 11th year anniversary this past March.

You clearly have no idea how to be a man, and have absolutely no idea what a real women wants.

Real women want to be taken care of so they can pursue their passion. They want their own project so that they feel pride and accomplishment. Any women worth their salt wants children and will make that their primary project.

Women can't focus on their project if you do not provide, every necessity you don't provide for is taking something away from her focus and her projects. Women are beautiful and resourceful creatures that crave validity, pride and protection. Men on the other hand crave power, resources and sanctum.

Unfortunately in this day and age it's very difficult to be a sole provider for all things so the next best thing is to provide all necessities (food, shelter, heat, cell, car etc.) All other items she craves she must earn on her own through her own means.

Luckily that usually means she won't need more than a part time job.

It's pretty simple, I pay for all bills. She pays for anything else she may want. I work 100% of the time she works maybe 50%. I'm trying to get to a point where that is less because we want children.

You can view for more information.

>Rough sex is not rape.
>You can only rape a girl if she explicitly told you it's ok to do so.
>Ergo, it's never ok. Because it becomes roleplay when there is consent. So it isn't rape.

As I said, hard to get women (read that as most) are great actors. They often say no and then get pissy when you do not continue.

What kind of retarded faggot are you? That's my point.

If you are married to a person, you cannot rape them.

If she won't put out, she is a bad wife and you should divorce her.

Wife rape is fun, I do it often. Especially holding her down and taking the anal when she says no. But it’s not “rape” rape.

By forcing her to have sex with him, youre an idiot, you should have said nothing you god damn mongoloid

That's on them. It isn't practical for someone else to tell if their no is a real no.
It's fairly easy. A no is a no and that's it.
Unless you know her and talked about it it's just not feasible to continue letting men decide if a no is really a no.

I mean, it's a retarded question. Of course a husband can rape a wife. You don't even have to get into the politics of it or the ridiculous "all men are rapists" or "consent" extremes of it.

You can't possibly be this dumb.

Tell her done. Maybe just deal with being horny for a short while. Masterbate anyway and say her options are letting you do hat and not getting mad or having sex if that a big deal to you, if she cant accept that divorce, find a new one you can actually function with,

Inappropriate behavior at work is more than ample reason to fire someone. This moron couldn't see the controversy that his question would stir.

Found the real incel.

If she were Muslim then it’s not rape, they are property in their religion.

>human communication is hard
See a therapist about your autism

>That's on them.

I can tell your ether a female, or your a male with no intention of having straight sex. It's not them because women can have sex literally anytime they want it.

The signal that is sent to them is "this guy clearly doesn't want me bad enough so I'll wait until I find a guy who does." So the "nice guy" who stops gets nothing and the next guy who just goes for it and takes the risk gets the reward of spreading her legs.

Women and fags can only see one side of the game which is the women's perspective. They cannot understand the doublespeak and bullshit men have to put up with to survive the dating scene.

>It's fairly easy. A no is a no and that's it.

See above.

>Unless you know her and talked about it it's just not feasible to continue letting men decide if a no is really a no.

Or a women for that matter. It's both. Take another person's example above. The women was sending mixed signals all night and finally when she comes right out and says she wants it he doesn't really have much enthusiasm but says ok and halfway through sex she changes her mind and says no again.

Try that kind of shit in a business or party setting and see how far that gets you.

Good dumbass

>How can a husband rape his wife?
well you see, the wife is like "i dont want sex right now" or something and the husband fucks her anyway, that would be one example.

being married doesn't mean you have a sex slave that must bend to your will. Your spouse is a person with rights still, you cant just treat them like an object when they do something you dont like.

dont listen to the fucking incel retards.

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Nah, women like to change their minds and doublespeak constantly.

No autism on my end, yours is questionable.

>my name is pedro, I am twelve

You should never rape your wife but if I'm horny and my wife is saying no it's perfectly normal to " force her" a little bit untill she starts going along. She might have some crocodile tears at first but eventually she gets into it or else her pusy would not be wet making sex impossible.

>imblying marriage isn’t consent
Whew lads.

>I can tell your ether a female, or your a male with no intention of having straight sex.
Straight male my dude.

I think the woman we've been meeting and/or are interested in are VERY different. The girls I meet are way different than you describe. And apparently the other way around.

I've never had much trouble getting girls even without being the bad guy who takes the risk. I guess we're in a totally different scene and environment.

Could be.

I am in New York, so the scene here is a lot heavier than most people.

I'm also not saying every girl says NO, I'm just saying a lot of women love the thrill of putting on the act.

Maybe the scene has changed since I was dating. I've been out of it for 11 years due to being happily married.

u deserve it. Marriage is not a sex contract. Sex consent is implied, but if she says "no", it has to stop. Same with u - if she gains weight, u can stop having sex with her and its now rape

Imagibe being this dumb. That law was retarded and that's why it was changed. Rape is rape. Check out the definition of rape if you're confused.

I mean your world has a bonus chromome, but sure faggot

>How can a husband rape his wife?
By fucking her against her will.

I've known a few women who pull that act. But they come out of it later since most guys think they're too much trouble. The reward isn't high enough for them to continue it past their teen years.

I'm in the Netherlands. Lived in amsterdam and a few other cities.
Sounds like the differences are quite big between time and cultures.

Dutch culture is also known to be very straightforward and honest.
Maybe that plays a role in women/men relations.

Marriage by it's nature is a sex contract.

The contract states that I shall only lay with my wife and vice versa.

As for raping, personally I'm ambivalent toward how that works.

On the one hand, you shouldn't force a women to have sex if she doesn't want it. On the other hand married women will sometimes withhold sex for months and if you cannot cheat legally and divorce means wallet rape then its hard for me to feel bad about a man forcing himself on his wife. On the other, other hand a good wife should put out for her husband if he really want it because she loves him and wants him to be happy. On the other, other hand, a good husband should never force himself on his wife even if she does withholds it from him.

My wife has never withheld more than a couple days and even then it's usually because she's feeling sickly.

So I guess I'll leave it to you incel faggots to duke it out.

Imagine being married and your wife doesn’t want to have sex with you, for whatever reason. You decide you’re going to fuck her anyway, whatever that looks like and the claim is, you raped her and the only place you can have the illogical argument that marriage = consent is Yea Forums. You edgy niggers are pathetic.

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Man I envy you, I wish it wasn't so common in the states. Honestly it would just get so exhausting.

So much logical rounding off in this thread, from all sides.

no, its says u inherit from 1-another and u share tax responsibilities

Adultery is illegal you stupid nigger.

>cucksins

and "laying with only them' DOESNT MEAN "HAVE TO LAY", IT MEANS " ISNT ALLOWED TO LAY WITH ANOTHER'

This guy gets it

Right, what kind of cold-hearted bitch would know that and willingly keep herself from her husband if he really wants it?

That's kind of my point, I see both sides of the debate so I'll let you faggots duke it out. Don't @ me.

>Don't @ me
Turbofaggot.

no, u dont. If u had, ud understand why its rape

Unless the judge is named Latisha Abdul Walker.

I like how saying don't @ me gives me more responses.

yes i du n tats y i aym nut tayking sydes

That's how your response comes off you retarded faggot.

That's what happens when you're a retard

no, u dont - thats why u dont take the 1 and only right side

I'm not who you're replying to, just another anonymous faggot chiming in with my $0.02.
Just finalized my divorce this year.
Despite claiming that one or twice, late night sex felt "like rape", she didn't accuse me of rape. Despite the fact that she could have lied and claimed that I abused her in any way, she didn't. Fortunately, we didn't have any kids.
She didn't hit me for alimony. She didn't try to take any of my shit. She only asked for what was hers. She only took mutually-owned items that made sense.
She was fair. She was reasonable.
At the the of the day, I didn't marry an emotionally unstable party girl. She was a grown ass woman.
In retrospect, we should have broken up years before we were married. But once I realized we didn't belong together, she acted like an adult. Because she is one.
And that's why I still consider her a friend and would never say a bad word about her.

Ok, ill take the right and only side. Rape cannot happen between husband and wife.

You keep saying the phrase without realizing how much of a turbofaggot you are. You dumb nigger.

Genius!

Good shit user. Sounds like you know how to pick em. Even if you devorced her at least she is a reasonable women. Amicable devorces are rare.

I hope you don't have any kids. Get your assets in shape and start the divorce process.

>if a man is enslaved by a woman
Child support isn't slavery, dumbass. That's the courts forcing you to help the mother of your child support your fucking offspring. If that sounds evil to you, you probably shouldn't get married or have kids, bud
>if a woman gets married and is raped by her husband, that's the man's fault
Yeah. Should be pretty obvious

>That's the courts forcing you to help the mother of your child support your fucking offspring
Not quite sure how that new Vera Wang dress accomplishes that user.

and theres the proof u dont understand shit
dont @ me

I am glad you lost your job

>ITT: cucks who would allow their femnons to do shit like this

The real question is, why is this bitch going around the office making inappropriate conversations about her husband raping her? Was she at least fired too? Wtf is this world coming to when a husband has to rape, and the wife can blab off about it around the watering hole?

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>@
nigger what is this, nethack or some shit?

Crime cannot be bartered. You cannot trade some theft for some assault or whatever else.

>turbofaggot

Oh thats a nice one sweetie, real original. Did you and your JJ Highschool friend's make that one up waiting for the tendies to be brought in during your play date?

>Child support isn't slavery, dumbass. That's the courts forcing you to help the mother of your child support your fucking offspring. If that sounds evil to you, you probably shouldn't get married or have kids, bud

That's all well and good until the bitch marries another dude and spends those child support bux on waxing her pussy for him.

>Was she at least fired too?

You naive fool.

Can you go be a feckless nu-male somewhere else? Go watch your Tik-Tok videos or whatever the fuck you stupid faggots do.

Like Millhouse said to his father, "Mom asked me to remind you about the child support check. Weekday Daddy needs a new DVD player."

Pwned! Lol! Your so funny user, will your mom let us have a play date!? =^)

Everything you do reeks of someone with thin skin.

That soyboy cuck still has a job and you don't. Soyboy cuck boss is more of a man than you because he can still pay his bills.

Completely off-topic, hijacking this thread. I'm American, and I visited Paris for the first time last year. I had long hair, a mustache, and a goatee. I was in a grocery store and the black guy by the door asked if I was Dutch.
Could it have been my American accent in my broken French, or the facial hair? Or none of the above?

LE EPIC RESPONSE! I was all like (ಠل͜ಠ)ﾉ.

And you were totally like (ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡━.

and now I'm like ノ( º _ ºノ).

Your the COOLEST user. What did your mom say about our play date? Does she need to speak to my mom first?

I don't think you know what the word incel actually means because you've used it wrong multiple times. You're projecting so hard it's not even funny

This nigger sounds like Steve Carell after he hears the term "pussy on a pedestal" in 40 year old virgin.

Do tits feel like bags of sand to you?

Look at this pallid excuse of a response. In what world did you think that firing off your brainless tumblrspeak would net you anything positive? The safe space?

You couldn't even think of anything new to bleat. Way to fucking go, you stupid faggot.

Who the fuck came up with the idea that marriage = consent? I don’t remember the part in marriage vows that says when your wife doesn’t want to fuck you should fuck her anyway. So aside from the semantics of that whole thing, I see the real issue here is the fact that this dude’s wife doesn’t want to fuck him. Whether we’re saying she’s at fault or not for talking about it at work, I think if your wife stuck a banana up your tailpipe, you’d be at work bitching about it too. This cuck got fired because his job maintained the status quo in order to avoid catching a case with the EEOC. If that were my business i would have fired that dipshit too because he apparently isn’t smart enough to filter his thoughts in public. I think the real issue here is the fact that this whole thing is just bait and anyone who tries to be rational is falling for it. We’re in a meme bro. And not even a funny one. It’s sad because if this were real it would mean that a dude like OP, a complete moron, is out there in the workplace. And we need to watch out for dipshits like him for causing problems for the rest of us. Work is not a place for airing ones bullshit drama and participating in it carries the risk of being caught up. I learned that shit like 15 years ago. Wtf man?

I would fire em both... wtf yall having rape convos for in the workplace?

Does that mean I can come over? tumblrspeak is the coolest hahaha I love that. Do you have a tumblrspeak page so I can see all your original stuff?! Please say yes!!!!!!!!

your daddy showed me a really funny website called w w w dot m e a t s p i n . f r /. I piddled when I saw it cuz it was sooooooo funny!!!!! and random I love random stuff! LOL

My momma almost caught me visiting it though. If she saw that I woulda lost my privileges :(((((. You must get all your coolness from your dad!!!!!!!! :DDDD

So what day can I come?! I'm free Friday

Where is your @ now, you feeble-minded dolt.

Haha, don't @ me! I'll say it whenever you want user, can we be friends?! Your so cool!

And where was that dumbshit 30 minutes ago? Fucking thin-skinned nu-male.

Lmao you are one oversensitive projecting lil bitch

don't @ me! hahahaha!

Coming from an idiot who might suffer from the same retarded @-ention deficit.

Way to spend all your time getting wound up over being called a turbofaggot, until someone had to remind you to repeat your original faggotry.

user my mom said I can bring tendies with me for our playdate!!!11 She said all we'd have to do is have your mom bake them :^DDDD. She said she hasn't heard from your mom yet though. When do you wanna play?!. If Friday doesn't work I can ask if mom can bring me over after practice tomorrow.

Don't forget to don't @ me!!!!

are most of the time*

This is pathetic.

don't @ me!!!! LOL

No. Pennies.

And now your smoothbrain self knows only to double-down on the advice that had to be given to you.

Typical underaged scrub.

don't @ me!!!! LOL

Not the user you responded to but my first wife was like that. She kept to herself & never talked to me, even when I asked. As a result, I started doing shit she didn't like. Way I see it, I asked & she didn't say a damn thing, so if she wasn't happy w/ stuff I was doing, it's her own damn fault.

Well, of course, using "woman logic", she figured the reason for not telling me any of this shit is because she was of the belief that, if I "really loved her", I would KNOW what would bother her without being told. Take a wild guess how successful that strategy was.

So, when I inevitably failed her ass, she started withholding sex as punishment. When I realized she was withholding sex, I still propositioned her, and when she refused, I "took matters into my own hands". When she found out, she was furious. I'm like "wtf did you expect me to do? You and you alone brought this on, stfu".

During our marriage counseling, all of this came to the surface. To her credit, she had the clarity of thought to admit that expecting me to read her mind AND getting upset for me taking care of myself when she refused me made no logical sense. Her attitude was, she was mad so she had the right to punish me. And since she was horny too & had to go without, it was only right that I suffer too.

Divorce came shortly afterwards. Ironic considering nowadays, 20yrs later, I have no desire for pussy anymore. Lost its appeal.

Go back to whatever shithole socialite nest you crawled from, you idiot.

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don't @ me!!!! LOL

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Touche.

You missed your chance under an hour ago. Go scream about highschool on Twitter or some other trendy septic pit.

don't @ me!!!! LOL

Keep giving me (You)s, dumbshit.

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LE EPIC RESPONSE! I was all like (ಠل͜ಠ)ﾉ.

And you were totally like (ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡━.

and now I'm like ノ( º _ ºノ).

Your the COOLEST user. What did your mom say about our play date? Does she need to speak to my mom first?

Amazing.

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Does that mean I can come over? tumblrspeak is the coolest hahaha I love that. Do you have a tumblrspeak page so I can see all your original stuff?! Please say yes!!!!!!!!

your daddy showed me a really funny website called w w w dot m e a t s p i n . f r /. I piddled when I saw it cuz it was sooooooo funny!!!!! and random I love random stuff! LOL

My momma almost caught me visiting it though. If she saw that I woulda lost my privileges :(((((. You must get all your coolness from your dad!!!!!!!! :DDDD

So what day can I come?! I'm free Friday