Riddle me this, riddle me that...

Riddle me this, riddle me that. Why is it that the people who always paint mass shootings as “mental health problem” are always the same people who are most opposed to universal healthcare?

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You are autistic OP

what about instead of the riddler he was called the niggler and he was like "riddle me this batman, is my name racist??"

it's pretty funny that America got rid of all its public mental healthcare programs and facilities around the same time the internet was being invented lmao

That was also around the time when homelessness exploded in every major city in the US. Wonder what happened

because they are "conservative", they try to come to lest amount of assumptions about matters and try to come to solutions that least involve massive overhauls of established systems.

Psychologically it's "managerial" behavior and is an important aspect of this human machine. Obviously a balance must be struck and these issues should be discussed and debated in order to come to a progressive compromise, but as a mental force, the conservative sentiment longs to strike balance against the chaotic "new idea" liberal.

Because it takes a sick fuck to kill a 6 year old and I should not have to be taxed to death to pay for illegal alians healthcare or anyone elses when I went without healthcare for a long time and no one thought to extend me charity. I corrected my own situation. Others can too

This thread can get pruned now.

>illegal alians

well good news, Gilroy is mostly mexicans so really you should be supporting this character

>when I went without healthcare for a long time and no one thought to extend me charity
Social services aren’t charity, although there were plenty of people during that timeframe who would have gladly helped you. Now you can rest upon your laurels if that’s what gets you off, but don’t pretend you actually care about dead 6 year olds if your only solution to the problem is telling the murderers out there to pick themselves up by their bootstraps. Fucking do something about it.

it's just too bad the feds and states shut down all of the insane asylums - if we simply stood those back up and put all the nutjobs in them, there would literally be zero mass shootings

yeah but the drug companies would make a whole lot less money that way, it's more profitable to medicate the nuts and let them run around free

plus every time one of them shoots up a place, everybody surviving the shooting and everybody affected by it become instant candidates to sell more drugs to in order to deal with all the feels

drug companies are the problem here, folks

because they don't want to be locked up in the loony bin where they know they belong

because it's well known that the state ruins everything it touches. We want GOOD healthcare, not universally shit healthcare.

Riddle me this: What sane person shoots a bunch of randoms and then is fine with prison or death as a reward? Is op really arguing that poor mental health doesn't exist?

> Is op really arguing that poor mental health doesn't exist?
Lmao, are you fucking kidding me? YES, OBVIOUSLY poor mental health exists. And it is a HEALTHCARE problem, which is exactly why you should be concerned about the countries inadequate HEALTHCARE system.

Meant for But to address your issue, fine. How do you (and the GOP) propose we fix this problem? If you can come up with a better solution, I’m all ears

>Why is it that the people who always paint mass shootings as “mental health problem” are always the same people who are most opposed to universal healthcare?

Because "mental health problems" is considered 'dismissive' language, and is never taken seriously as actual "mental health problems" is really considered.

According to the internet, everyone on this planet has a mental illness of some kind, ...and probably 8 times out of 10, it's just drama queens who have little or no coping skills to hold their own in the real world. Partly, because of bad parenting, or media-based morality conflicting with real world implications.

....it's not a 'mental illness', it's just a lack of problem solving skills. stupid people being stupid in a world full of stupid people, so why pay their bills?

Why invest in "mental health care" just to siphon and compensate for everyone's stupidity, when the money can be used elsewhere?

Ok everyone now has 'free' health care. Insurance companies and health providers now charge 10x normal because they know they can. Taxes have to rise 20% across the board. What now? We have 100 million diabetic or pre-diabetic fat fucks. I have to pay for those pieces of shit too? And the people committing the school shootings are already seeing doctors because they're all medicated to fuck. GTFO with your shit argument. We have to fix health care costs before we can make it 'free.' The only ones who see it as free are people too dumb and/or lazy to make much of an income.

>yeah but the drug companies would make a whole lot less money that way, it's more profitable to medicate the nuts and let them run around free
How? If they’re running around free, they’re (presuming that they’re adults) also free to refuse treatment. If they’re locked away in an asylum having been deemed unfit to care for themselves, they can be pumped up with however many goofballs pfizer deems necessary

There is no fix. The country will go bankrupt if there is a blank check given to each person for health care. Average health care costs per person will probably run 20-30k a year. Multiply by 350 million.

In every first world country that has adopted a universal healthcare system, people pay less for healthcare overall. Yes, your taxes will be higher than what they are now, but you’ll also no longer be buying insurance. Also, the reason things like emergency room visits are so ungodly expensive in this country is LITERALLY the for profit insurance system. The cost they charge an uninsured person is the same the charge an insured person. It is artificially raised to obscene degrees because they know that the insurance companies will ALWAYS argue. You as an uninsured person do not have the power to take such an argument to court and succeed. The way we do things right now benefits the infinitesimally small number of people who make money in the private insurance industry. You ALREADY pay more than people in Canada, the UK, Japan, Sweden, and every other first world country, and yet you will fight tooth and nail against your own interests. I have no sympathy for you.

>The country will go bankrupt
Hi from Australia, not bankrupt.
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How many of those countries provide defense for the world? How many of those countries have the number of illegal aliens we do? How many of those countries have pushed stupid fucking fat positive marketing and fast food culture to the point where there are more obese pieces of shit than not?

>There is no fix.

Well, there "is",....but none are willing to admit to.

You have as many people in your country as we have in LA county. We have more illegals than your entire country has population.

Please enlighten us! Give us in depth numbers. I want exact budgets and costs in each sector and how it will balance out year to year. You're the expert, right?

I think we should with draw our military 100%. Let china and russia and whoever else fuck with the world. We need to stop putting money into defense to create stability and just focus on ourselves. Then maybe we can turn shit around. We can laugh as Russia invades eastern EU again.

None. Get rid of ALL THOSE THINGS TOO. I have no problem with that shit. Maybe if more people would stop clinging to the idea of partisan politics, we could actually do things that benefited us for fucking once.

> The country will go bankrupt if there is a blank check given to each person for health care

you mean like the UK, Germany, France, Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Iceland, Austria, Switzerland, the Netherlands, Ireland, Italy, Finland, and many others go bankrupt?

Oh, no, they dont.

The problem with the US' healthcare is, you actually think it costs $25,000 to deal with a broken arm, or 5000 for a single ambulance trip. They dont. That same 5000-dollar ambulance callout costs £250 in the UK. That $25,000 broken arm costs £1000 to have x-rayed, set, casts, and treatment. - for exactly the same treatments, the same drugs, etc.

Healthcare like the US charges would bankrupt nations, yes. because its a for-profit industry who have fed you propaganda for half a century that no-one can afford nationalised healthcare. The reality is, an every other developed nation in the world, thier citizens benefit from universal healthcare that that US' healthcare industry claims is impossible, because of a string of excuses which every other nation has proven false. Even fucking INDIA has a universal healthcare system which provides to more than 1/2 of a billion people, with more coverage every year. Yet the US claims its impossible.

what are we talking about? Solutions for the mentally ill? Or world defense?

If you're going to s.o.y this topic up, be more specific.

Shut the fuck up you brainwashed piece of shit.

>How many of those countries provide defense for the world?

and you think the US does?

my god, you've swallowed the propaganda hook, line and sinker.

the US does not "provide defense" for the world. The US sells arms to Saudis who are causing mass famine in Yemen. the US funds dictators in banana republics to ensure profit on produce. The US threatens and withdraws arms deals from other nations who buy from rival nations - like turkey's removal from the F-35 project, because it bought Russian A2A missiles last week.

and so on.

If you think the US is some sort of global peacekeeper whose vast arms expenditure has been anything but propping up its military industrial economic sector, you're a fucking fool.

Welp, the only thing left to do is to sit back and wait for the choir of crickets coming from radically freethinking alt-right

and sure enough, the thread's dead as a doornail after they have to face reality.

humanity needs to be wiped out