Alright faggots put on your thinking caps. The specifics:

>thinking a googolplex is bigger than Graham's number.
>being this dumb.

A googolplex is 1 followed by 100 zeros. That is not even half of a tenth of a MILLIONS of 0.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% of Graham's number.

millionth*

Figuring out how many ants would each Marine have to kill would be the first step to answering this question.

Oh shit I fucked up. My dumbass thought looking at google for a few seconds would prove me right. Looking for another few seconds showed I'm retarded

Ants 100%

Ants will be able to swarm the marines in layers like pic related, reaching arbitrary height and speed. Flamethrowers won't do shit against a 5km high wall of ants going 150km/h. Totally within the strength and teamwork capability of ants, literally just run forward toward the marines, climbing over your teammates where necessary.

What could the marines possibly do against a strategy like this? The ants would be advancing too fast for the marines to hold them back or retreat from.

Ants win.

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Is it even possible to divide Graham's number by a googolplex?

Oxygen is still a factor, right?

So by doing this the ants would eventually kill the subsequent layers beneath them.

I am still inclined to agree with you, ants would probably win.

They would rip themselves apart with the friction and weight. Marines form circle, fire for almost eternity, win.

Ants would win in the long run marines would quickly run out of food and the ants could happily eat all the marines dead bodies

Then you have two stick, stick always wins

You do know ants can fly, right?
>no flying
The marines still die from drowning in ash.
>marines have magic ash respirators with infinite oxygen
Human error, somebody is eventually going to make a mistake and at that scale it's immediately game over.
>marines are superhumans that never make mistakes
This kind of argument can go on forever. The one thing that doesn't change is that the marines die.

Also based on picture the ants would win. Those aren’t marines

Marines would die of old age

I read somewhere that the big bang was caused by a Graham's number of ants piling onto some marines.

>Stick flame throwers into the ground facing upwards
>Make a pillar of fire that is constantly burning
>Ants can never cross the lava pillar
>?????
>Them nigger ants dead

Is it THAT hard to fucking read a post before you reply?

>Neither team sleeps, eats, drinks, goes to the bathroom, or ages

>put on your thinking caps
people don't wear *thinking caps* any more, Grandpa

>Marines form circle and fire.
>Ants die in the billions, trillions, etc. in a ring around marines.
>The corpses form a pile, then a wall, then a ring of mountains around the marines.
>Landslide of dead ants buries marines.
>Ants continue piling on, marines are crushed after a few tons or so.
>This doesn't even require a measurable fraction of Graham's number.

Your idea is the worst idea.

Expanding on this.

The Marines could quite easily make a molten moat surrounding them, and just indefinitely spray around them in a circle to keep from being over-run with ants.

I guess it would depend on how much prep-time the marines have to make a defense.

This is only a debate for those who don’t understand how unfathomably large Graham’s number is.

It would take an incalculably long amount of time, but the ants would win. Their carcasses would crush the Marines. Or they would eventually break through or over in such numbers as to pick off Marines one by one.

But the ants would win.

Even if they managed to fight for a few years, the marines would eventually snap under the pressure and throw the game. Nobody can just do that shit forever. That wasn't one of your disclaimers either.

Not at all, if you design a system that cannot be infiltrated then you've already won. It would just take an indescribable amount of time, but you'd win.

Ants win.

The corpses of the ants would just pile up and crush the marines.

I don't know who would win, only that it would be boring as fuck and smell like an ant bbq.

The more you make dumb rules fucking with the laws of physics, in an effort to give the marines a chance, the more you ensure the ants win.

Seriously: unhindered by gravity the ants would form a massive tidal wave, a billion billion billion miles high. They would run on each other’s backs so that the uppermost layers of ants were moving at the speed of light.

It would take a 10 billion times a google of years, but only because light speed limits how quickly the ants would cover the marines.

The corpses would turn to ashes, and the ashes would be scattered to the wind due to the plainness of the geography, nothing to block the wind.

>>Infinite plane, no geographical features

Ants do not move very fast. Assuming the marines just walk backwards at a steady pace would keep them from being crushed from the dead ants.

Even with the ants obviously having the number advantage, they would mindlessly move towards the marines, whereas the marines could keep distance enough to kill them and stay out of harms way.

Unless this happened.

What's the difference between Pi and Graham's number?

wouldn't the sheer weight of that many ants effectively cause their mass to collectively collapse unto themselves and create a black hole?

if we're talking about existing on an infinite plane, we need a few more specs on the physical laws in this place.

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Even if the ants were completely ashed (they wouldn't be) I dont think you dont understand how much ash would be involved. Every single person would suffocate under the cloud of it.

>The corpses would turn to ashes, and the ashes would be scattered to the wind due to the plainness of the geography, nothing to block the wind.

The Ashes would eventually blacken the sky and the atmosphere will become so thick from the ash that moving through the air will be like trying to move through oil.

>Infinite plane, no geographical features

Yeah, a grahams number amount of ants is far, far larger than 'infinite'.

about tree-fiddy

This is why theoretical math is bullshit

The ants stacking on top of each-other to go near the speed of light would not work unless the lower layers did not get crushed under the weight. There would be a limit to how high they could stack without crushing the lower layers, so there would be a limit to how fast they could travel.

>grahams number amount of ants is larger than infinite

kek

>Ants form dome enclosing marines and moat.
>Collapse dome, crushing all marines.

Ants win.

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>googolplex is 1 followed by 100 zeros

No its not dumbass. Not even CLOSE.

A googol is 10(100)

A Googolplex is 10(10(100))

Pretty sure a Googolplex is more than there are atoms in the observable universe.

Ayyyy

What kind of ants? The little black annoying ones or like giant bullet ants?

well the nigger OP should just write

>NO ONE EVERY DIES AND NO ONE LOSES BECAUSE BOTH SIDES ARE INVINCIBLE AND FOREVER

TREE FIDDY? oh it's you loch ness monster i thought i told you to leave me alone!

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Ants u moron dumb fuck

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Nah, you're thinking of a googol.
A googolplex is 10^(10^100), aka 10 to the power of a googol.
Even then, a googolplex is infinitesimally smaller than Graham's number.

Nothing is bigger than infinity that is expect infinity plus one

They set aside their differences and become allies, all to fight together for a common cause: stop the pornfags.

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there are many infinities, Pleb

Ok in that case, BOTH the Ants and the Marines LOSE, because the terrain is INFINITE and there is a FINITE amount of BOTH the Ants and the Marines.

Theres the fucking answer.

No one wins. The terrain wins.

Terrible way to compare it to a Googolplex.

Everything you said is true about a Googolplex too.

The estimated amount of atoms in the known universe is only 10(78)

A googol is 10(10^100)

Okay, so the ants are trying to kill the marines, but do the marines have to try to kill the ants?

An infinite plane is quite large, infinitely so.

Could the marines just run several hundred miles, chill for a few weeks, play cards, fuck around, and repeat?

They don't need to sleep or eat, so I'm guessing they don't get tired?

The marines would kill themselves before the ants even became a threat, marine suicude rate is already pretty high and being trapped in void never aging would cause them to go insane while the ants would be uneffevted by the cosmic terror Ants would definitely win no other possibility

If it were infinitesimally smaller it'd be basically the same number.

>Could the marines just run several hundred miles, chill for a few weeks, play cards, fuck around, and repeat?

This.

The Marines can just avoid the ants forever and ever.

Ants have also been known to kill each other.

So maybe it's just a waiting game?

Oh the ants and the marines are not trying to fight the terrain they are just standing on It like a mile apart for a dmZ

He did say friendly fire is off

Rines would choke to death on ash.
This is stupid.

I'm pretty sure Grahants would have enough mass to form a galaxy-sized black hole for each marine.

Friendly fire would include killing yourself though, right?

So I guess both of those options are off the table. No suicide for these marines, just an eternity of ants and nothing.

What a life.

Is reproduction off the table?

This opens up several other angles.

ya, but graham's is way more.

those aren't marines you faggot piece of shit fucking dumb ass nigger clown pussy ass shit for brain.

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I'm not really knowledgeable in these topics, but as far as I know, they have different uses.

Graham's number is used in logarithmic equations, while Pi is used in trigonometry and geometry. They're both pretty important, but in terms of actual differences, they probably don't have many.

Ants work based off a hive mind communicating through pheromones released into the air with a near incite number of ants they should be able to achieve sentience and become a mass with far greater intelligence than man and should be able to bring about a new wave of marine ant peace

The ants can just wait until the marines start choking each other while jerking off, as all US marines do.
It's true, everybody you meet who says that they are a marine has either been choked while jerking off, or has choked somebody who was jerking off, it's a tradition and they ALL do it, there is no such thing as a US marine that isn't at least a bit of a faggot.

>Oh the ants and the marines are not trying to fight the terrain they are just standing on It like a mile apart for a dmZ

Yeah and then suddenly the ants become invincible for 5 seconds then the marines turn on their super-duper powers and the invincible ants die then the ants turn on super power ultra mega invincible mode but the marines took it up another notch to megastorm hyper ultra invincibility mode then no one dies.

Nah man Graham’s number is super super big while Pi is about 3 they are very far apart on the number line

What about suicide by ants?

This is the real angle. Even if the marines could hold off or avoid the ants indefinitely (doubtful), eventually these immortal marines would succumb to despair and give up. Ants are too stupid to ever give up and because they're eusocial, they will work together for an eternity if necessary.

Ants win again.

Graham's number is stupidly, inconceivably huge and pi is about three.

>A googol is 10(10^100)
that is a *googolplex*

>no evolving

They are just communicating

You're actually asking if marines can tear apart the fiber of the universe being that smart.

There's that many ants. You're basically saying infinite equals Graham's number and a finite number a googleplex are are marines.

Then there must be 1 Googleplex of ants per 1 marine is how the division works. After that each marine is using a flamethrower to reach a high score.

You're taking into account time and factors to try to reach a finite calculation of Graham's number. This way i estimate less than 50% of ants can be cleared.

What is that a galaxy? Think about vacuuming your room first or driving.

Easy:

1. Ants would win, because Grahan number's the number's of atom in the universe. So the Marines would just die by the insane amount of ants in normal conditions.

2. The thing is, the marines wins because with friendly fire, they can aim eachother and fire themselves without suffering damage, so not any amount of ants would be able to kill them, since if marines always have a fire surrounding them they will burn before even being able to attack.

Not more, marines wins because friendly fire.

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marines can just make a human dome and burn in all directions but ants will win because their ashes will suffocate the Marines due to the vast amount of ants being burned

This.

The ants would turn to ash and blow away dipshit you have a googleplex or flame throwers going it would be windy as fuck

>ANTS CAN ASEMBLE A MECHA WHIT THEY BODIES
>MARINES CANT
>PERIOD

einstein spotted

I would put the ants in a black hole. Make something out of the chemical reaction of burning them. That's a sun and a black hole. Only way to solve this problem. Question is how long does it take to clear 100% of ants this way. 2 years?

Anyone who says the Marines would win has absolutely no idea how absurdly huge Graham's number actually is. The ants win by default simply because of the numbers advantage.

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The fuel for the flamethrower is infinite. The Grahams number isn't it is a finite number.

It all comes down to fatigue and time. In which case you calculate ants killed per day.

So, for every marine, there's probably a shitload of ants, which probably double in the dude's size.
F, this one goes to the ants.

A computer the size of the known universe could not store the number.

Imagine the largest thing possible, the known universe. Now imagine the smallest, a planck.

Now fill the universe with plancks and number them 1 to N. This is a huge figure, but not huge enough.

Now rearrange the plancks, the total number of combinations (N factorial, or N!) begins to approach Graham's number g64.

The marines wouldn't necessarily lose if they did this:

But I really can not fathom a scenario in which they win.

How did Graham even come up with that number, if it's so big we can't even imagine it?

You do realize that is MORE THAN an entire universe worth of ants for each Marine right?

I hope one day soon you dumb fucks learn just how goddamn stupid you are.

Anyone that says marines is blinded by unwarranted nationalism.

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Oh and I don't mean a universe's mass, I'm saying volume

>believes the sun is 93,000,000 miles away from the earth.

Didn't you read? Put your thinking cap on, and believe your senses. The earth is flat and stationery.

The Battle would rage for trillions of years. But the Marines would win based on OPs rules.

There is infinite space and no friendly fire. They can literally just keep firing as they walk away. They can literally shoot the flames at themselves with no issue.

The only way ants would win would be if they all spawned above them and crushed them.

Which I guess, is the ultimate deciding factor. Their spawn positions in this scenario basically decide who would win.

>Infinite plane

Ants are slow and stupid. Marines could control the battle, where and when they fight the ants. All the Marines would have to do is very slowly walk backwards while flamethrowering the ants and eventually they would all die.

This

Underrated post right here