Why do rightwingers hate the poor?

Because 90% of the poor are there because they want to be.

[citation desperately fucking needed]

Greed.

Oh the bait, my God.

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It's impossible to make a study on that. No poor person would say that they are there because they want to be. When you have opportunities like the military thats always looking for more people and less than 1% of the population ever join. You have trades that are in desperate need of workers right now. Instead, they choose gibs and shitty politicians to take care of them.

>Who would've guessed not everyone wants to get shot in Iraq or work a badly paid job in the sewers

Don't bitch then and stay poor faggot.

I hereby award you the golden medal for first place in mental gymnastics.

Mental gymnastics on what account?

>I don't hate the poor
>Why can't they just all join the military for my military indutrial bux

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they don't hate them so long as they do exactly what they want

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How about the working poor? Not everyone is on welfare lmao

>TFW diabetic so I can't join the military even if I wanted to
>TFW if I get a job that makes enough money I won't be able to qualify for state funded insurance and insulin costs >$300 a bottle, which lasts like 2 weeks.

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joining the military contributes very little to the military industrial complex, the shitty politicians that your ilk vote for are paid for by big contractors that end up getting very big jobs that rip off the government (read: your tax dollars) and contribute significantly more to MIC than you using the military as a means to an end. I do hate the poor because they have shitty excuses like you.

Diabetic? So youre a fat fuck, keep pumping that insulin and feeding that negative feedback loop. It'll do wonders for your diabetes

I'm type one. Its autoimmune and has nothing to do with diet or weight, my immune system just tried to kill me.

>more soldiers =/= more weapons production
even if that were true, not everyone wants to support the US imperialism that keeps them poor, user

Show me an example of a working family in america that lives without running water food shelter and a fucking iphone.

not everyone is a type two fatass like you, pig

bls.gov/opub/reports/working-poor/2016/home.htm

Oh, my apologies user, i wish you the best. Look up snake diet on youtube and get in contact with cole. Hes turned around a lot of type 1's

Why do wannabe trolls believe cnn/msnbc?

Because you're left wingers.

On account of the fact that high risk, low reward jobs does not a rich person make, if nothing else. You're asking a varied, destitute populace to enlist.

Let that sink in. Those incapable of accessing the same kinds of opportunities the class above them regularly takes for granted, are seemingly slated, if not forced, to work jobs that will likely shorten their lifespan and quality of life in spades. The odds of them landing a position that takes them away from danger is slim, considering they're supposed to be poor.

Really consider how much a corpse makes after being blown apart by an IED. Is it easy to be in the military? Are these disenfranchised souls even fit to be military, would the military even accept someone who has been living in the streets for 5 years? Can someone that poor make up for not having a proper education, the kind required to enlist? If this were the surefire solution, why is the government not running a program to enlist every homeless person they find? Isn't that the way out?

And those are just a few concerns only regarding the option of being "free" to enlist. Condemn them to being cannon fodder, why not. Meanwhile, some who are born with affluence do not have to "choose" to enlist. This fatalistic choice that the poor have been given, to toil away and die, or to just die, is cruel and unusual.

libertarian here

i don't hate the poor, i just beleive that everyone deserves the consequences of their actions

work your ass off? keep every penny you earn ought to be the answer

sit around on your ass all day? you get nothing until you work for it

inherit a shitload of cash? it's yours to do with as you please but don't come calling when you blow through it all

but when it comes to charity, even die hard libs like me recognize that some people aren't as able to help themselves. that old lady with dementia? real men will pitch in and help her, only pussies push her off into some state-run hellhole

that young man born with downs syndrome? real men will come alongside him and help him reach his full potential, only pussies say he should be aborted

that's my two cents

if you disagree, i don't give a fuck, it's ok to be wrong - shit, you're living proof

LOOK AT THIS RETARD THINKING LEFTIES BELIEVE CORPORATE MEDIA
WHAT AN IDIOT LAUGH AT HIM HAHAHAHA

my old neighbor is poor as shit, went to live with his parents.

why? because he blew all his money on booze, weed, and parties

43 fucking years old when he left franklin va, and that fucker is still sucking his momma's teat as far as i know

i heard he even got a job and he quit because they wanted him to atually do work and yelled at him when he didn't

fucking loser

I like you

not everyone, even if bodily abled has the same starting conditions
some are born in rich neighborhoods with nice, well funded schools and are primed to succeed themselves
others are born in neighborhoods where their decrepit shitheap of an education won't give them good chances
college, which is very important for good income, is also expensive, so not everyone('s parents) can afford to pay for it

What's your opinion as a libertarian on age of consent laws?

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Good. We don't want you in our gene pool.

so what? i don't give a fuck about where people are born

i give a fuck about what people actually do with their lives

there are people who get into harvard after having been homeless most of their teenage years

there are trust fund babies who can't even survive a semester at standford

it's not the circumstances that matter, it's what you do that matters

if you grow up in gangland chicago and go gang bangin' with your bros, guess what, you gonna die or end up in jail, i don't gaf, but if you act on that knowledge of right and wrong that we both know you possess and choose a different path, then you will work your way outta those slums

i know this because i did it myself. i grew up with jack shit. most christmases we didn't have a fucking tree let alone any presents. yet i latched on to coding in my shitty high school in L.A. and saw it as a way out. now i make low 6-figures because i worked hard at it, day after day, year after year.

anyone literally can do it unless you are retarded - and i already addressed how to handle that, above.

I was born with minor affluence and chose to enlist. Fuck you and your shitty excuses. I was from a multi million dollar family that was emotionally abusive and controlling of my wife and I. They wanted me to inherit their business as a means to keep me under their thumb. I told them to fuck themselves and fuck their money. I enlisted, worked long hard hours, and put in my time. Now im finishing an EE degree right now with no debt and now im looking forward to the path of self employment on my own terms and my wife is graduating with a BSN. We just bought our first house and are looking forward to not making excuses, but starting a family. All you people do is "mental gymnastics" as to excuses as to why youll stay poor forever because everything is "high risk, low reward" compared to sitting on your ass collecting gibs
Working poor is mostly due to periods of unemployment (temporary) i agree we need to do something about the 19% of the 3.4% which is roughly .68% of the poor, so i will be happy to work with them i stand corrected user, i only hate 99.32% of poor people now. Excluding the ones going through a period of unemployment

age of consent laws are a way for adults to ignore common sense when teenagers do shit they know they ought to not be doing.

but adults who diddle younger teens, they know what the fuck they are doing, fuck them, i'll kill 'em myself if you point 'em out to me.

Kill the poor imo.

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if you seriously believe there is equality of opportunity and wealth inequality is just muh choices you are denying reality
>reddit spacing

Generational wealth differences will be overcome with time. Instead of taking peoples money as a solution, make a change in the black/latino communities to make more fathers claim their kids. This will reduce gang violence and in time will create more successful children.

and public education will still be underfunded garbage
the ones taking other people's money are the capitalists you support
how is profit generated?

>I was born with minor affluence and chose to enlist
Please state the conditions in which you qualify as having minor affluence.
>shitty excuses
... slating the poor to work jobs that no one with more than minor affluence similarly "refuse" to take up doesn't strike me as an excuse, I'll be honest.

>I was from a multi million dollar family that was emotionally abusive and controlling of my wife and I
>born wit hminor affluence
One of these things is not like the other. Minor affluence, where the topic involves the poor who must enlist, or toil in the sewers to save crackers and tap water without health insurance, does not include those who have access to
>a multi million dollar family
That's a no-brainer. A million dollars isn't life in the skids. The resentment you harbor for your family, however justified you believe it to be, is not at all a means for you to compare yourself to those who are born to panhandlers or sanitation workers with respiratory problems. Neither is it appropriate enough to justify condemning those individuals to positions that might just perpetuate their inability to escape the bottom rungs of society.

>I enlisted
>worked long hard hours
>and put in my time
You don't strike me as someone who had any problems getting themselves to an enlistment center. I imagine you were in good health, at the very least. Can't imagine that you were refusing your mother's breast milk. Or, that you didn't take the clothes off your back with you, opting to leave the house stark naked and penniless.

Public education isnt underfunded, its badly designed. It does both the smart and the stupid a disservice yet we dump more money in it per capita than any other country. A lot of poorer neighborhoods get more school funding too, such as in california. I dont know why every solution for you guys is to dump more money into it.

>All you people do is "mental gymnastics"
>because everything is "high risk, low reward"
>sitting on your ass collecting gibs
This is a misconception. You came from a situation where you could've also "collected gibs" from your parents, all for performing less effort than what you allegedly chose to do. And since you allege that you're finishing an engineering degree of that kind, with no debt, I have to ask you what kind of situation your organs are in.

Insulin user certainly doesn't have that benefit, and it isn't a result of their life choices. There are plenty of people like that. They don't choose. Now that the idea is that they must
>must
go through basic, live under the possibility of being carted off to some foreign nation, and potentially come back worse for wear, only humors the idea that they aren't fit to have the freedom of walking away from a million dollars. They can only walk into a uniform, and are expected to risk the only things that might still have value to them, that which little to no one else is seemingly going to value- their lives.

That's all their fit for. Cannon fodder. The poor? They can go die for me. Good on them if they come back, but those who died were lazy sods and can go to hell.

>Please state the conditions in which you qualify as having minor affluence.
million dollar a year business they run, lots of say in the city.
>>shitty excuses
>... MORE than minor affluence
moving goalpost
>One of these things is not like the other. Minor affluence, where the topic involves the poor who must enlist, or toil in the sewers to save crackers and tap water without health insurance, does not include those who have access to
False narrative, no one does that in america. People without insurance still get healthcare for free in america.
>That's a no-brainer. A million dollars isn't life in the skids. The resentment you harbor for your family, however justified you believe it to be, is not at all a means for you to compare yourself to those who are born to panhandlers or sanitation workers with respiratory problems. Neither is it appropriate enough to justify condemning those individuals to positions that might just perpetuate their inability to escape the bottom rungs of society.
i agree its different, but the argument you set up was that no one who is rich would enlist. My life is proof that that's incorrect. The military will accept you regardless of who your parents are.
>> I imagine you were in good health, at the very least.
Yeah, most young people are. I walked there, and i was in fact homeless for a brief stint before boot camp.

Whats is tuition assistance? What is post 9/11 GI bill? Still more excuses, them and I would be the same cannon fodder, im not asking anyone to do what im not willing to do, that would make me a hypocrite. Insulin user can still do trades, i see signs here all the time for electricians/plumbers starting at 40-50 bucks an hour.

Rednecks are apart of the right, do they make fun of the poor? They are the poor, retard.

Are you seriously implying that no redneck makes fun of the poor?

Be like this guy.

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>former marine
why would i trust a facists lies?

>moving goalpost
No. Otherwise, explain to me what a poor person entails. The thread doesn't paint the picture of someone coming from a middle-class income, fully detached home in suburbia, let alone a million-dollar income family.

Poor. Poverty. As in, food stamps and not being able to pay the water bill despite working 2 jobs, one of which is sanitation worker. Destitute enough that one would suggest they just enlist in the military, or die in a hole for being impoverished.

>no one does that in america
ers.usda.gov/topics/food-nutrition-assistance/food-security-in-the-us/key-statistics-graphics.aspx
No one does that in America.
>People without insurance still get healthcare for free in america
That's only if they go to the right hospitals. If the particular hospital isn't getting federal money, they're not required to offer what would amount to charity care. The cases where it would be free to get your bum knee checked out are extremely rare if you are both
>unemployed
and
>have less than $800 to your name

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>but the argument you set up was that no one who is rich would enlist
The argument I set up was that no one who was rich is forced to enlist to have a livelihood.
> slating the poor to work jobs that no one with more than minor affluence similarly "refuse" to take up doesn't strike me as an excuse
I made a typo, but in spite of that, the argued point should be clear. The poor are not being given a choice if you are saying that these are their only options. They have nowhere to go except into a uniform. And if they refuse, for any common reason, not only are you suggesting we shaft them, but you're suggesting they deserve it and are lazy wastes of space for it. But if anyone else refused, for any common reason, their means of an out are not constrained to jobs that will genuinely rob people of their lives. Some might even be able to rely on a million dollars and a complete lack of inconvenient health issues, mental or otherwise. Construction workers often end up with a pair of disabilities, a litany of issues down the road. Some even before that, at ~35. Think workplace accidents. A lot of the trades are definitely not risk-free. Not just anyone graduates and is certified to be messing around with the circuitry in your home, or to weld beams to unfinished structures. This is the point- the impoverished are expected to work these positions, to obtain the kinds of skills and resources otherwise taken for granted or assumed to be commonplace, or go to hell. What involves more risk, anyways? Construction worker, or cashier? Would a supermarket accept a homeless person with a blank resume?

In other words, you would not have starved if you had chosen to stay with your family and run the business. Even if it were the case that coercion and grooming was the means of getting you to run the business. Middle-income families generally present the same kind of situation- there's no dire consequence of dying from the elements forcing them into enlisting.

>The military will accept you regardless of who your parents are
But they will not accept you if you are determined to be otherwise unfit for duty. You went through the process, you know that not everyone makes it through.
>most young people are
But let us ignore those who aren't. The military accepts everyone. Everyone accepts everyone, you just need to make an effort.

>Whats is tuition assistance
An option for someone who was able to find a means to enroll in some kind of post-secondary education. If I physically threw money at a broken water main, I can't imagine it would fix itself. Part of the parcel that comes with tuition, is that the person receiving it possesses the capacities to put it to use, let alone apply for it.

Who will tell them to do that? And how will they pay for it later, if someone happens to tell them about it? Have they the means to think that far ahead?

>What is post 9/11 GI bill
For those who are still alive. Unless you mean to tell me that the situation for veterans in America isn't peachy.
>im not asking anyone to do what im not willing to do
And I greentext:
>Fuck you and your shitty excuses
>excuses as to why youll stay poor forever because everything is "high risk, low reward" compared to sitting on your ass collecting gibs
>When you have opportunities like the military thats always looking for more people and less than 1% of the population ever join
>they choose gibs and shitty politicians to take care of them
I don't know if I need to explain what was wrong with all of this. The excuses are why they're not enlisting or opting to work dangerous jobs while the person next to them blogs in order to purchase their avocado toast. These shitty excuses are why they're not doing what you were willing to do.

Enlist.

Are they not free to choose? You've given the impression that they all sit in government housing, and burn food stamps for clout. They deserve to be poor, because they're poor and they won't just enlist.
>Insulin user can still do trades
Insulin user gets shafted if their job pays them a few dollars more than their state funded insurance would allow someone to earn. If they make more than the limit, but less than the insurance would give them, then they can't afford their insulin.

No marine says "former". Once a marine always a marine.

We're going to have to agree to disagree. You keep parroting the same points that dont matter, you keep coming up with different versions of risk vs reward. Everything in life is a risk, its a risk you have to take though. How much money my family made that i emancipated from doesnt matter. Also you completely misrepresent certain arguments. Its going to be like talking to a brick wall. Not worth my time. You will always find an excuse in life to not do something because you have a victim complex and that is exactly why you will always be poor and why i dont have sympathy for you.

>idgaf
>idgaf
>I'm a dumb stupid edgy ancap
>idgaf

so you had a very good life and you threw away your wealth bc of some narcissism from your parents and u grateful egoism from you.

at least you had that choice dumbass. this is what is meant by privilege. you had a good upbringing and werent forced to work a shitty job and enter the military. you chose to. fuckin elitist entitled brats. lol

Why do leftwingers hate sucsess?

>Why do rightwingers hate the poor?
>This question is copyright (C) 2016 Shareblue, Inc. a subsidiary of George Soros

ftfy

why would I want to be a moron bootlicker?

>You keep parroting the same points that dont matter
>you keep coming up with different versions of risk vs reward
If either of these are true, then the other cannot be. I am either parroting the same points that don't matter, which means I'm being consistent with my parroting, or I'm coming up with different versions of risk versus reward, in which I am not being consistent.

I'd like to argue that I'm being consistent in routinely bringing up the fact that these lazy bums should just enlist, or go work in the sewers.
>Everything in life is a risk
You were born to a family that ran a million-dollar business. You enlisted and served. You just said that you don't expect people to do that which you wouldn't do. And now you are suggesting that each and every risk in life is equal. That these aspects, are equal.

You would throw a child into a live firefight? Because everything in life is a risk, it's all a risk you have to take. Doesn't matter if it's a child, there are zero valid objections, because everything in life is a risk and you just have to leap. Send in the handicapped, they know what they signed up for.

>Also you completely misrepresent certain arguments
I know that I don't intentionally do that, and that the majority of my parroting has been verbatim what was typed. You implied that no one in America, who is poor, struggles with malnourished and eats crackers or plain bread for most of their meals.

I provided an entire resource that supports the idea that many do, instead of offering an anecdote. I don't see how that, and not the body of direct quotation, qualifies as misinterpretation.

>You will always find an excuse in life to not do something because you have a victim complex and that is exactly why you will always be poor and why i dont have sympathy for you
>How much money my family made that i emancipated from doesnt matter
>Its going to be like talking to a brick wall
>You keep parroting the same points that dont matter
>Whats is tuition assistance
>What is post 9/11 GI bill
>i see signs here all the time for electricians/plumbers
>no one does that in america
>People without insurance still get healthcare for free in america
>I was born with minor affluence and chose to enlist
>Working poor is mostly due to periods of unemployment (temporary)
>All you people do is "mental gymnastics" as to excuses as to why youll stay poor forever

>You will always find an excuse in life to not do something because you have a victim complex
If the expectation is that I have some dignity and integrity for myself, then I am otherwise compelled to point out what I find wrong. I don't imagine the confidence or competence of that measure goes hand in hand with having a victim complex. You mention emancipation, but again, you're telling the poor to go enlist or die.

why do right wingers equate greed and selfishness with self made success?