My kid's a tranny and I fucking hate it...

My kid's a tranny and I fucking hate it. Since he could speak he would insist he was a girl and cry because he thinks God put him in the wrong body. He would steal his sister's clothing and wear it when I wasn't home. I'm pretty sure he still does this. He only hangs out with girls and has an obsession with feminine things. He's cried like a little bitch through every single haircut he's ever gotten. Refuses to play sports. I have to literally threaten him to make him play football with me. He would throw tantrums whenever I tried to make him play with boys' toys or wear boys' clothing.
I've tried everything. I've tried beating it out of him, I've tried taking him to a psychiatrist (who only advised that he 'transitioned' and even called him "her" for some dumbass reason about mental health), I've tried conversion therapy, I've tried literally everything and this little faggot still remains unchanged. He wants to go on HRT and keeps begging me, telling me the sooner I give in the happier he'll be.
What in the FUCK am I supposed to do? It's really pissing me off. I'm going to have a stroke over this shit. I don't want my son to kill himself in 15 years when he realizes how much of a freak he is.

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if it bothers you that much give him up by at some lonely road or whatever, he as freak as you are, dont complain.

nothing you can do. Except accept it. Or show him what happened to other people that tried the same thing and offed themselves years later. And the amount of medication he would have to take just to keep his mutilated penis.

Genuinely considering disowning him at this point. I can't deal with it anymore. It's every fucking day with this kid.

No. I refuse to accept it. I'll kill myself before that happens. I've tried showing him all kinds of statistics about tranny suicide rates but he keeps fighting me on all of them and sending me Contrapoints videos and stupid shit like that. He's so deep in leftist propaganda it's unimaginable.
Fuck me it hurts.

Top tier shit right there btard

yeah there isnt much you can do if you tried all that, just dont cave and eventually he'll either thank you for doing so or at least have to do it when he has his own job

Just keep your son happy by humoring him.

Just end his misery and put him down

I mean it is your son afterall. If you can see past that he is a tranny and just try to bond with him he might be an alright person.

simple: support xer choice to go on HRT and rape into submission afterward

They kill themselves because of parents like you, idiot. One of you is going to die over this. Hopefully it's you.

Find someone who will pay you good money to show your little boy what being a girl really means

ur fucked nothing you can do
just fuck him

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Can you give me him so I can have a full time boy slave

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You're the world's shittiest dad. Congrats.

I'm not going to cave any time soon but this shit gets old.

No. I'd rather have him be unhappy as a normal boy capable of living a regular life than happy as a freak.

I would if I could, honestly, but I can't.

I've tried bonding with him but every day he just gets more and more sour and distant toward me, I'm only trying to help him.

You're fucking disgusting.

You sound just like him. They kill themselves regardless of acceptance, idiot. Do the research. It doesn't matter how they're treated by society. Transgenderism is indicative of a deeper illness or distortion of reality which is ALWAYS going to lead to suicide.

Maybe I should hire an escort. I think having a taste of sex might help him a lot.

He says about half of the things in this meme on a daily basis.

Fuck off you sick homo pedophile sadist.

On the contrary, I'm one of the greatest parents possible because at least I give a shit. If people cry murder about companies injecting animals with hormones I'm SURE AS SHIT not injecting my kid with them. I just want the best for him but he seems to seek only self-destruction.

You should try suicide you abusive piece of shit. What you're doing is driving her to it anyway.

Stop calling my son a her please. It's not abusive to want my own son to face reality. It's not abusive to try to prevent my son from ruining his body and committing suicide.

And people wonder why the suicide rate is so high for these people. They have parents like you.

>her

there's nothing gay about two men having great sex. suck some dick, dribble some cum, dude who cares? if anything it's a bonding moment. having your dick in your homies ass just creates an unbreakable bond of friendship. if you guys wanna keep fucking that's cool too but it's not gay

Fuck her good once she's at a fertile age for gay breeding

This has to be bait.

If not, kill yourself. You said it yourself that he has literally always felt like a girl. So why torture him liked that?

So yeah, just fucking kill yourself, jackass.

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Threatening your "son" to do what you find interesting or important isn't bonding, it's sociopathy. You're not the best parent you think you are, you're actually a pretty shitty one and sound like a pretty awful person.
>he grows more distant and hateful of me, I've beat and threatened him and I don't know what to do!
Gee hard to see why he doesn't like you. Don't worry just keep treating him the way you are and you won't have to disown him he'll just leave you and never talk to you again at the first chance possible.

>living a regular life than happy as a freak
If that’s the life he wants then let him face the repercussions of his actions. There’s nothing you can do about it in the future.
>I'd rather have him be unhappy as a normal boy
You’re a fucking piece of shit. How can you live thinking like that? Especially about your own son.

I hope you die a painful lonely death. You’re a pathetic father. Have a stroke. You don’t deserve to have offspring. Cut off your testicles and bleed out. Fucking die.

No, do your research. They have high suicide rates because they're mentally ill. No amount of pills or needles or surgery or acceptance is going to change that, just as no amount of pills or needles or surgery or acceptance is going to help people with body dysmorphia.
The disorder is the source of the problem, not the people around them.

I'm pretty sure you're only posting this to get a rise out of me, but I'm not in the fucking mood right now.

Stop calling him a her. I wish he was just gay, I think I would be able to come around to that one. It's still an illness, but not an illness that makes you permanently disfigure your body.

You kill yourself for enabling these people. You're directly contributing to suicides by deluding them into thinking there's nothing wrong with them. You are the problem.

You wish death for him when his son will never be a female
It is impossible
And somehow he is the piece of shit
Don't get me wrong I've done Scummy things that aren't anything to be proud of and I'm a POS for having done them but he'll never be a girl
So he'll always be an unhappy boy

But see the thing is he doesn't want him to
He's the father and he can choose how to raise his child especially when you're calling him a pathetic father wouldn't you want him to do better?

You're not a parent so you just don't see how as a parent sometimes you need to do things that are immediately unpleasant for your child but better in the long run. Your kid might cry because you didn't let him eat candy for breakfast, but that doesn't mean you should give in. I really hope you never have children, for their sake.

I wish I had as much apathy about my family members as you. I really do. Can't be healthy, though. You should get your testosterone levels checked, an.

This is some serious CIA glowniggery if I've ever seen it. Trying to make it seem like the kids that say they're trannies weren't either physically/sexually abused at a young age or encouraged/forced to be feminine. These kids are mentally fucked in the head. Somebody has done irreversible phycological damage to your childs brain. Well, it's either that or you're lying. You'd never lie would you user? Kids don't come up with the "God put me in the wrong body" and "imma girl" bullshit on their own. Fuck off back to Tumblr you sad land whale, I can smell your pussy through the computer screen.

/thread, shitty bait + glowniggery/Tumblr propagandist

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You can thank social media for your son's problems.

Oh go fuck yourself, I'm not abusive and I'm not a liar. I'm struggling and I need advice, I'm out of ideas. I'm not a fucking SJW.

kekky fucking becky

This queer posted this on r9k as well

just copy paste this over and over again

He doesn't really do social media.
Still, I've tried keeping him away from the internet but first it's nearly impossible because I can't hover over him 24/7 and there are internet-connected computers at school, and he needs to use Edmodo for assignments anyway, so I gave up on trying to keep him away from the internet a long time ago. Kept it up for about a year though.

Because for a while this thread wasn't getting any responses. I do that a lot, if a thread doesn't get responses I move on to a different board. I'm not a fucking queer man.

That’s why I said at least humor the kid so he stays happy and doesn’t regret staying alive you idiot.

Unlike you I would actually care about my kids. Life’s too short and you’ll realize that someday, until then you are and always will be a pathetic shit sack.

let him go.
Have another kid.

You don't have kids, if you did you would be able to relate. If you do, God help them.

That is your opinion you fucking faggot
The kid doesn't run the show
The kid'll never be a woman
He's just a faggot that doesn't see reality

I've had thoughts like that before but I'll never be a woman and that's a fact man
Straight fact
My asshole getting fucked doesn't make me more of a woman because I'm not a woman to begin with

I do have another kid but I care too much about this one to just 'let go' like it's that easy.

Have you tried a post natal abortion

>openly says he's abusive in OP
>when called abusive becomes defensive and abusive
How's that sociopathic tendencies treating you? Perhaps you should consider some sessions with that therapist.

>doesn't realize parents WANT their kids to be like them
you're "criticisms" of this legendary dad won't do shit user

That's a last-ditch-effort type of thing. Absolutely last resort.

How old is he?

25

Thank you, I'm in charge here and what I say goes. At least, that's how it should be but he's too fucking boneheaded to obey.

You mean murder? That's murder. Any kind of abortion is murder, especially "post-natal abortion" whatever the fuck that is. I'm not going to jail over this garbage.

I'm not abusive you fucking troll, I just care. I'm the best friend he'll EVER have because I'm the only one who gives enough of a shit to actually tell him like it is. To keep him grounded in reality. You're the fucking psycho here.

He's 14.

I don't have any advice for you but I understand how fucking frustrating this must be, good luck to you OP

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>You kill yourself for enabling these people. You're directly contributing to suicides by deluding them into thinking there's nothing wrong with them. You are the problem.
This.

Thank you, it really fucking hurts and to have people tell me I'm a glownigger or to just give up and let him do what he wants is just unhelpful and insult to injury.

>you're "criticisms" of this legendary dad won't do shit user
I don’t give a fuck. If I have kids I’d want them do be happy not to end up suffering. OP should learn to be empathetic instead of being selfish like that. Fuck off.

He's an adult. Let go, let him live his life.
He's too young. Don't act like a complete asshole, and tell him that if he still feels like this as an adult, then he can make his decision then

You do not have a son. You have a daughter. The sooner you man up and accept your child for who she is, the happier you'll both be.

>Fuck off you sick homo pedophile sadist
>Maybe I should hire an escort
So anyone who wants to fuck your son is a "sick homo pedophile sadist"

Unless you pay them to

Op I fear he's already gone on the deep end
He's probably sucking some cock already
Hate to break it to you
He's already had his mind made up even if it was detrimental to his being
How is it selfish if he's doing it for his kids well-being
His kid'll never be a woman no matter how empathetic one could be
He doesn't want his kid to think he's a woman because it isn't reality (delusional)

Fuck them. Your based trips will carry you to glory and a solution is just around the corner. Whatever happens I wish the best for you both truthfully

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I'm saying your kid is garbage and you should "abort" him. Weather that's murder or putting him out on the street with no more contact. He is dead to you either way.

I AM being empathetic you piece of shit. If I didn't care, I'd just let him do whatever the fuck he wants and I'd sit idly by and watch his life go down the drain. He's already having panic attacks, imagine how bad his mental state would be if I let him start transitioning. It would be so much worse. If he can't handle just being a normal man, you really think he'd last even a second as a tranny? Fuck you.

Obvious baiting, what parent shows statistics about suicude their son.

If both an unhappy reality and happy delusion lead to suicide, which would you prefer? I'd rather be happy.

You say he is 14
Since when does a 14 year old ever know what he wants?
Do you spend time with him? What does your wife think of it, and what is her part in it?
Submitting to the demands of a teenager is never good.
Also, consider what state you are in. Not asking but you may want to take a break by going and living in another state with your family or even abroad. I knew a family who had a son that was put by force into "special needs" in one state, so they left for a foreign country and enrolled him in an American school there while they lived in that nation. They came back 2 years later to a different state and enrolled him normally. You may want to consider that seriously, best options would be in Mexico/Central America and possibly parts of Southeast Asia or even East Europe, as getting people out of the country can be a very good thing to do.

I'm not going to let him make this decision at 14, 24 or 44. It's not going to happen because I know it's a mistake.

I know I have a daughter but I also have a son and nothing is going to change that. Letting your kids destroy themselves is the EXACT OPPOSITE of manning up.

I meant later, not immediately. I'll buy him a hooker on his 16th.

He's definitely not sexually active, I make sure of it. I make sure he doesn't doesn't go anywhere at all after school, he comes straight home and stays there until the next day. On weekends he's never out of my sight. He doesn't get an allowance and doesn't have a phone. Isn't allowed to communicate with peers outside of school.

I care too much to just dump him on the street. Although I am really, really close.

When I was in middle school, I liked having long hair and I hated sports. I'm 20 now, and I'm basically a fascist ideologically. People change with time. How old is the lad?

You're not a bad father.
You need to connect with your son, agree to disagree where it is necessary to do so, and remind him you love him.

Nobody should throw themselves away like that.

It doesn’t fucking matter if his son will never be a woman. What matters is He looks past that instead of non-stop forcing reality upon him. If He keeps going down the road he is with his kid, his kid will do a lot more than hate his father. Disgusting.

Please read this carefully, OP.

Your child is not your property. Your child is not an extension of yourself. Your child is a whole, separate human being with a life and an identity. And you do NOT have the right to destroy that person in favor of your precious fantasy son.

Accept your daughter. Love your daughter. Ask her for forgiveness. If you do these things, then maybe you'll get to keep your child in your life.

Or keep doing what you're doing, and sooner or later she'll either commit suicide exactly like you're fearing, or she'll leave and never speak to you again.

Your choice.

I do. I tried to scare it out of him and nothing's scarier than statistic's because they're don't lie and they're not up for debate.

Reality. At least you can accomplish things with realism. Your emotional state can change, but reality NEVER changes for any reason.

1. If you really don't want your kid to commit not alive then you wouldn't put him through conversion bullshit, look at the fucking stats for that shit
2.it sounds like your son would be a lot happier without you, have you considered biting the barrel of a 12-guage and pulling the trigger?

Tell him he can not have any hormones until he is 18. Spend more time with him doing things like fishing or some kind of sport. Try a million different sports while being super supportive even if he sucks. Say you are proud to have a SON like him. Even if you aren't. Do not hit him, do not yell at him. you will push him further away with your disapproval and further into his transition. Tell him you want him to try a sexual experience with a female, to truly understand if he is gay or not. Don't make fun of him, but tell him straight up about the problems he will face. If he cross dresses, tell him that it doesn't look right. Find him a hobby. Playstation, whatever, anything to get his mind off of focusing on his identity.

Oh, 14. Sorry, didn't read enough.

Here retard I'll quote directly from your own words
>I have to literally threaten him to make him play football with me.
>I've tried everything. I've tried beating it out of him
This is the definition of abuse
Yet I'm the troll here.
>everybody else is wrong and I'm the only one who's right and it's my way or the highway mister! STOMP STOMP STOMP!
you're the one throwing the tantrum dumb ass. I really hope this is bait but I know shitlords like you exist so this is probably real.

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>son can be a girl if he wants
>men uhp lmao stoopid boomer

>You say he is 14
He is.
>Since when does a 14 year old ever know what he wants?
He doesn't. He just thinks he does, but I know better.
>Do you spend time with him?
As much as I can. Every minute of every day if I could.
>What does your wife think of it, and what is her part in it?
She died 5 years ago in a few days. She was kind of an enabler.
>Submitting to the demands of a teenager is never good.
I KNOW.
>Also, consider what state you are in. Not asking but you may want to take a break by going and living in another state with your family or even abroad. I knew a family who had a son that was put by force into "special needs" in one state, so they left for a foreign country and enrolled him in an American school there while they lived in that nation. They came back 2 years later to a different state and enrolled him normally. You may want to consider that seriously, best options would be in Mexico/Central America and possibly parts of Southeast Asia or even East Europe, as getting people out of the country can be a very good thing to do.
I don't really know if I have the money to just uproot our lives for one kid. Also not sure if it would be the best career move.

Let him be who he wants to be and tell him to go on hormones when he's 18 you psycho. If you really can't live with it then fucking off yourself, sounds like he'd be better off with you anyway

>I care to much
Why he obviously doesnt give 2 shits about you or the life you've given him, most likely for free. He doesnt care if daddys boy is actually daddys girl taking more cock on the weekend than sasha grey. Your son is a disgusting delusional faggot and his toxicity from denying reality will seep into everything in your life. He will be nothing but a drain on you both financially and emotionally. He is a tumor in your life. You NEED to cut him out. Either he will come to terms with reality and realize hes about to lose his dad or he's a total piece of shit like I expect and will leave you without a second thought. Spoiler: your life will be better without him.

No FUCK YOU, you brain damaged faggot. Let your kid do what he wants. If he’s self aware then He will figure it out, If not then the rest is on him. Let your fucking stupid kid figure out how to deal with shit so that your stupid ass can focus less on your damn kid and shut the fuck up. If you hate trannies so damn much then tell your kid how you feel more often so that he might change his fucking mind. Being normal means nothing.

Never look in his direction ever again and throw him out the day he is 18

This is like telling a schizophrenic that the voices are real

You're a terrible fucking human. I hope your son fucking murders you, extremely violently, someday soon. Cunt.

dad?

You don’t get the point jack.

This is such obvious bait. If your kid has an IQ over 60 he'd immediately go to the school's guidance counselor and get CPS involved.

I have seen a thread like this before and another user had an idea of putting crushed up testosterone pills/tablets in your sons food/drink. You should maybe try that

Actually, no. Gender dysphoria was being cured at an 80℅ success rate in young teenagers over in Europe before the sjw tards shut down the clinic and buried it all for being "prejudiced" for not accepting the trans community.

While the fucking idiot who popularized sexual transitioning wasn't even a psychologist and also had a weird obsession with teaching children as young as six years old how to masturbate.

>best career move
Do you care more about your career or your son?
The fact your wife died probably is contributing to his decisions- she may have enabled, but there is a stabilizing element of a mom and a dad.
When people get seriously on drugs or alcohol, one of the biggest contributors is environment. Clearly factors are enabling your son's behavior, be they at school or the Internet. If you don't control them they will be in control.
I know that money is very very hard, and that career moves are important, but this is about your kid's well being. You say he is having these problems, you need to do what you can for him, and that may seriously mean getting him out of the environment he is in and far away from it- away from the people around him -so you can give him a clean place, a different start, and a different perspective. If you can take him out of the English-speaking world, DO IT because while the influence of homosexuality is everywhere, it is either less in tense or it is of a different variety, and because of cultural differences it can help him clear his mind and stay away from those people.
If your son was on drugs and you either get him away from the people enabling him, or for "career" reasons you stay and keep him in that environment, would you stay or move?
You need to make some hard choices and sacrifices for yourself to help him, and this may be what you have to do. Keep an open mind to it and be prepared to take necessary steps.

How in the fuck is being a fascist a good thing? All you did was tell me you were similar to my son and turned out like shit.

I know I'm not a bad father and I couldn't possibly connect more with him than I already do. I can't just leave it alone.

You're saying I should feed his delusion? When has that ever led anywhere productive?

I know my kid is not my property, I never said he was. Stop building strawmen. I just want the best for him and he's sabotaging it all. He's been sabotaging it for 14 almost 15 fucking years.
He's my son and will always be my son. I will never, ever stop fighting him on this. I just won't. It's not healthy.

Those stats are unreliable and unrealistic. Even though they didn't really work for him, they still have a pretty high success rate.
You should kill yourself.

He can't have hormones at all, no matter what. I'm not budging on this you freak.
I try to make him play sports but he hates it. I still make him do it. The rest of your post is lovey-dovey mushy bullshit and I won't soil my brain with it. Life isn't a Pixar movie.

Beating your kids isn't abuse you faggot. Spare the rod, spoil the child. Apparently not sparing the rod will lead to the same fate. No one told me that. All he ever does is complain about what a shitty parent I am but he doesn't seem to recognize that I am one of the best parents ever. And apparently neither do you.

Actually, children are the biological parents property until 18. Dipshit.

OP, honestly, if I had any way of contacting your child, I would help her leave you. Because you're an abusive piece of shit and she needs to be as far away from you as possible.

Uh, no, that's not how the law works.

"Non-stop forcing...." Yeah
He shouldn't do that
"...reality"
You're delusional
Just as as his son
Maybe shouldn't non stop force but reality?
Reality is real, believing otherwise is dumb

He's clearly a glownigger, man. Mr. CIA "dad" is being paid to start a thread about how his "son" came to the conclusion that "God put him in the wrong body". OP is pushing the narrative that transgenderism is not a mental illness and is, in fact, something in your brain that you cannot change no matter how much surgery.

Ok you want to help your son, Mr. CIA dad? Then listen up and take notes. Say something like this next time he brings up being a tranny, "Look, I know I've been harsh to you on this and maybe you think it's unfair but this is life changing stuff. Irreversible damage to your body is not the solution here. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with you or that you're unnatural but the mindset you've been put in is dangerous. People who go down the path you want to go down usually don't end up with happy lives and *start crying* I love you too much to sit idly by and let you ruin your life. *pull him over for a tight hug, right hand on the back of his head, left arm on his back* You're my little man and I just want you to be happy, even if that means you'll hate mr. *cry harder and continue to hug*" es fucking peezy. Don't know what you'll do with this glownigger but that's the best fucking advice you can get.

shits fucked, his psyche will either bend or break and there's no telling without time

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shut up you faggot
your parents should've smacked you up a lot more

Oops, forgot I'm not on /pol/
Well would you rather your son be watching contrapoints, or reading Oswald Mosley?

>daughter
OP has a son
>just let your son be a delusional faggot that will kill himself once he realizes he cant actually transition
OP is a good dad. Trans genderism is a mental illness and his son needs professional psychological help.

How many times do I have to say this? He's not going on hormones EVER. Never ever. Get it through your thick fucking skull.

You're probably right. But I want to keep fighting just to see how things will turn out before I abandon him outright.

>Let your kid do what he wants.
Big parenting mistake. A house run by children is a house doomed to fail. Don't tell me how to raise my kids.

Murder yourself.

It actually is hard to look at him sometimes.

Thinking of it. How much is needed and how soon will I see effects?

I care about my son, and one of the ways I take care of him is by building a career so I can have the money to raise him.
I feel like the whole world is against me. Why am I fighting a hundred fucking people on this? All I wanted was advice, fuck

>You're saying I should feed his delusion?
>When has that ever led anywhere productive?
You should humor him so that he doesn’t commit suicide, that’s why. That’s all, because if you don’t humor him he will die with the rest of the 50% of trannies that kill themselves. If you really care about your son you’ll do it, If not then keep beating the dead horse and torture him for his beliefs. Nock your self out.

As a 14 year old I also thought that I was gay, or a tranny or something because I really liked girl's clothes. Later in life I just realized that I like the way girls looked in clothes. I'm straight and not a tranny, but if my dad were like you, I'd probably would have deluded myself even more to "prove crazy abusive dad wrong". He probably has no friends because you don't let him talk to anyone, so all he has is the echo chamber in his head telling him that he must be a girl. You're the problem.

What does his sister think? Is she also prevented from having a social life? Your kids are all going to leave as soon as they're 18. Have fun being lonely in the retirement home, gramps.

honestly, some hormones might make him feel better
I'm against trans things for the most part but if he just wants to *feel* like a woman, that isnt so bad
let him be feminine, just remind him he's a boy

You are "human" garbage.

Humoring him doesn't change the likelihood of suicide.

>"Look, I know I've been harsh to you on this and maybe you think it's unfair but this is life changing stuff. Irreversible damage to your body is not the solution here. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with you or that you're unnatural but the mindset you've been put in is dangerous. People who go down the path you want to go down usually don't end up with happy lives and *start crying* I love you too much to sit idly by and let you ruin your life. *pull him over for a tight hug, right hand on the back of his head, left arm on his back* You're my little man and I just want you to be happy, even if that means you'll hate mr. *cry harder and continue to hug*"
You stupid fucking nigger do you really think I haven't said all that shit?

Yes, they are, you brainless faggot. Look it up for fucks sake, than shut your fucking mouth. Dear god, fuckasses like you not knowing how to use google are worthless.

All your doing by fighting is hurting both yourself and him. If he leaves when you give him the ultimatum he is too far gone anyway. Even if I wanted something obtainable if I knew it would destroy my mom or dads heart I couldn't do it. He wants to reject reality and gain literally nothing.

Once she's 18 you can't stop her from transitioning.

>Big parenting mistake. A house run by children is a house doomed to fail. Don't tell me how to raise my kids.
Not if your kids are smart but yes it’s a rare possibility that they do turn out fine.

>fighting like a maniac for some dumb shit that actually brings the world down
You are a "fool"

underage b&

Pill user here. I actually don’t know. I did not make the idea I just remembered it when I saw the thread. My guess is to put in what it says for a daily dose on the bottle or a little less in his food/drink. Repeat once a day and eventually you will have a normal man under your roof.

>>>>>>her
Once HE "transitions" it will be an it. It will never be a woman.

Some people are smart and use their intelligence to find the smartest ways to be dumb

You’d be surprised what effort in a life crisis does.

probably a troll but if not don't kill your fucking kid

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Die in a carfire you fucking Boomer. Get off Yea Forums

>Shit that never happened

Fuck you guys. I'm fucking done. I regret even making this thread and if I could delete it, I would. You people are enabling fucking sociopaths and I hope each and every single one of you goes to hell. Fuck all of you, every single one of you. Fuck you.

I can sure as hell try.

I've noticed that anyone who tells me to "look it up" usually hasn't done it themselves. This is a good example. There is no jurisdiction anywhere in the civilized world that considers children of any age to be their parents' property, and I defy you to prove otherwise.

"I also thought" is in the past tense, dipshit.

You weren't apt to raise kids. I'd bet money you gave them far too much internet time.

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Plenty of parents have not bothered to raise their kids and turned out fine. The only intelligence lacking at this time is in realists.

Well said user this image is perfect for this situation

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>sounds like a dickhead in OP
>asks for advice
>gets advice saying being honest, kind and caring
>gets angry because he's "already said it"
How the fuck was I supposed to know? If emotionally charged sit down talks haven't worked then he's fucked man. Hey wait, no he isn't because he doesn't exist. You've fully exposed yourself as either a glownigger or liberal propagandist. You're character doesn't align with your actions. Somebody better get fired for this goof up.

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weighttraining and diet would be a better alternative to fucking pills. Don't need to load him up on an outside source of T and cause his balls to atrophy, just try to get him inside a gym and do basic strength training together since its a part of life anyways

Reported to the FBI, you're obviously too unfit to care for a child. Prepare for a knock on your door tomorrow. Consequences will never be the same

You're the sociopath, and I wish your daughter all the luck in the world getting the fuck away from you.

Speak for the majority

all these drones fighting for a kids right to ruin their own life
they grow in numbers every day and everything just keeps getting worse

You need to understand that YOU ARE TORTURING YOUR CHILD.

This source literally says ops only choice if he wants the best for his kid is being supportive. Ffs even if the "disease" kill him in the end you thought a decent person would at least make the best of it, the kid is sick ffs.

>daughter

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Send him to military school. He’s not a child anymore. Every tranny lacks basic discipline. Making their own rules on genders. It’s better off just being a regular faggot than an actual tranny.

Nahh, dont support mental illness. Get that shit fixed.

you are the truth
keep fighting for the truth
fuck all these daydreaming idiots

>Edmodo
Confirmed to be not bait. Good luck with your son, Dadanon. May he finally disown his faggotry.

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Ignore all the faggots and do this

fuck you.

Boron and ginger. Both of those increase and or stabilizes testosterone so you have long drawn out waves instead of short jagged spikes that sputter out.

By including these in his diet you will help his body produce more testosterone, and hold onto it for longer. Plus, its all perfectly legal. So you don't have to worry about CPS busting down your door for juicing your kid with steroids. OR worry about his balls atrophying.

It's easy to manipulate a damaged mind into believing everything's alright, what's hard is telling them the truth. The trans community is as much to blame for those statistics as the unsupportive parents are.

You’re beyond retarded.

>If I have kids I’d want them do be happy not to end up suffering.
please never procreate, you fucking spineless coward
your kids are gonna walk all over you and end up mentally damaged like OP's son

Dubs of actual stupidity
I disagree with him raising his child in a way that prevents his child from living reality

You know nothing about the mind of a child.

I fuck when I feel like fucking and there’s nothing you can do about it cunt.
If I have kids I'll do it to also spite you, prick.

You’re so lost. My only point is for his kid to live the dream he wants. What ever your dreams are I would step on it right in front of your ugly face.

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Uh no, this is NOT perfectly legal. Drugging a person without their knowledge or consent is very highly illegal.

So maybe OP should do it, so CPS can get that poor kid away from him.

>creating people and drastically altering your life to spite an user you talked to for 5 seconds on the chan decades ago

>Woo the internet
And sir, you literally just went full retard. Have a shitty day!

Wake the fuck up because dreams sometimes aren't reality
Example
I'm 5'5 and dream of being 6'4
It ain't happening chief

>say retarded shit
>get called a retard
i'm the retard but you're the one who wants to have kids specifically because a stranger doesn't want them to have kids

but they want you to wear stilts and they promise to follow you around and tell everyone THAT'S XER REAL HIGHT

LOOK HOW TALL HE IS
YOU CANT SAY HE'S NOT 6'4 YOU BIGOT

I don’t think you’re beating your son hard enough. I would beat the holy fuck out of him, goddamn Old Testament wrath of God style. I would whup his ass until I couldn’t raise my arm, and then I’d use my other arm. I’d wear special heavy boots just to kick the shit out of him. I’d convert to Islam so I could get away with it under Sharia law. The furthest corner of the earth wouldn’t be far enough to hide his ass from my foot.

Continue beating it out of him. Beat him harder, in fact. More often. The only reason that failed is because you didn't go far enough. Exposing people to pain is the fastest and most efficient way to shut shit down.

You should let your son become a trap so I can fuck him as soon as he becomes 18

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Dreams can be a reality it’s just that people like you keep it that way. If you want to be 6’4 then do something that makes you feel better about your self instead of talking down on the lives of others, it could happen. Your height doesn’t matter.

Great minds think alike

OK here’s some advice from a trans man who is a father you A parents about their kid in this situation.


First of all your kids not messed up he feels like you want to be a girl or ever let him be support him tell him he’s loved because that’s what he needs to know that he is loved at this point and that no matter what happens if you want to be a girl or a boy or whatever he wants to be gay or straight or bi or Asexual. He’s still loved.

Honestly it’s going to be hard for your kid to come out and when he does Life is going to get a lot harder. I know because I’ve been out for five years for wanting to be a guy. My family and so my friends and even strangers on the street don’t except it. I have been spot on yell dad slept I’ve been told I’m a Fagge.

But your kid right now need to know that they are loved and you supported By you and that they can trust you enough to come to you when there are hard times. And trust me one coming out it’s going to get really rough and they are going to need you there for support.

Life is going to get a lot harder. I know because I’ve been out for five years for wanting to be your guy. My family and so my friends and even strangers on the street don’t except it. I have been spot on yell dad slapped I’ve been told I’m a Fagge.

But your kid right now needs to know that you love and support them in anyway Way shape or form.

He might need to see a physician or a psychiatric doctor or a therapist to help with some of the depression he might experience and some of the emotional pain. But in honesty, in all honesty he needs to know he’s loved and cared for and that you will never ever hate him for a decision he makes.

And yeah you might not like that decision but this is his decision not yours and your kid is it going to be the Person you imagined them to be or want them to be.

Have a shitty day retard!

Nah
Feelings ≠ reality
I'll never be 6'4
Height does matter because it's a dream of mine to be 6'4

look at this Fagge

>a trans man who is a father

Yes. Lets all listen to the mentally ill dyke.I'm sure they will have a not-insane point of view.

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Sounds like your a horrible parent user. You do realize he's suffering from gender dysphoria. You have to accept him, just because you don't like his lifestyle doesn't mean you can't like him. And if he kills himself you will be one of the major reasons he does.

Stop worrying.

i see you're out of prerecorded lines

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So are you saying child abuse is OK. Because I’ve been abused as a child and it’s fucking traumatizing if you want to go to jail I would do that if I were you because I am I got abused sexually assaulted with my parents and they both have Felonise now oh in fact you should get a felony for what you just said

people have survived for millennia with gender dysphoria never really being an issue
YOU ARE THE MAJOR PROBLEM

>You have to accept him

No. He has to accept himself. Playing along with the delusion is not helping him.

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Trust me your aren't helping shit acting like this towards your son. Just get your head out of your ass, you don't need to accept who he is but as long as you accept him it should be alright

Getting beaten for being a delusional non respecting piece of human garbage (trans) isnt abuse. It's discipline.

based sandnigger

>artistic works blah blah blah

Wanna fuck?

>let him be, try to keep your son away from transition
Since you beat the shit out of him like a fucking warthog, there's little to no chance he'll ever listen to your advice, and everything you'll say to him will only clench him into reactance (it will strenghten his beliefs).

If you know someone he trust, like his mother, a sibling or a friend, engage them with respect and consideration, and show respect and acceptance for what your son is.

Then, explain to them your worries about transition and surgery, peacefully.

They will probably persuase him not to transition, if you did your job well enough.

If it doesn't work, you can only blame yourself for being an absolute tard incapable of any argumentation.

user your son got injected with t.gay. Go fix another drink Dad. Might ease the pain.

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>embrace defeatism
how about see

12 year old thought police detected.

Yes they have high suicides rates. I don't agree that they should be able to do any surgery but the reason they have such high suicide rates because people like you hate their decisions making them feel worthless

stopping a bitch about it and grow up every parent has to so you do it too. Unless you wanna be a shitty parent and show the world that you’re the In the 75th percentile a shitty parents in this country who wants to kill the kid. Which by the way it’s a felony wHICH TRUST ME, you DONT want to get one because my parents abuse me and almost killed me twice and sexual ASSULTED me and they got Felonise and now They can’t do anything, and their life is ruined.

I was the user that told that fag to not reproduce. See my point?

The only faggot is you OP

I'd rather for you to think for yourself, pick up a book, learn about history, and our complex societies. Reality is too advanced and intricate to support the one-dimensional thought process of fascism.

>telling a grown man and a father to grow up and let his kid ruin their own life

retard

Edmodo isn't even a social media platform where you can post things for anybody to see. It's for teachers to give their students assignments or to tell them things about school work.

This is bait.

Doesn't want him to commit suicide
>I'd rather him be unhappy

Hmmmmm

You're 20 you have barely gone through life. Go outside, live a little, you'll see how bullshit it is.

>the reason they have such high suicide rates because people like you hate their decisions making them feel worthless

or they are mentally ill, and instead of being taught to accept themselves they way they are, they are pushed into mind altering drugs and horrible surgeries that ruin their bodies.

Can you imagine having this much hatred inside you?

Sharia law, motherfucker, I’m converting to Islam so nobody can say shit about it. And you think you were abused? There is no Tarantino movie you could use for reference, no Mike Tyson fight you could rewatch to even begin to understand the ass whupping I would’ve given you. You’d be begging for “abuse” long before I was done with you. Neighbors would think you were watching a Godzilla movie and Hostel at the same time. You’d be the straightest heterosexual on Yea Forums now if your parents had called me up the first time they caught you in a dress. You wouldn’t even feel right wearing a bow tie you’d be so damn manly.

can you imagine being this much of a brainlet?

>being this much of a brainless warthog
kekekekekekekekekek

yes, go on, warthog

amuse me again

Excuse me. I am a father of a trans father. Up to biological kids what up the kids. And I’m a fucking pediatric surgeon. I’m not a retard he needs to grow up he needs to be educated. His job is to raise a kid to the best of his ability and a safe household with the kid does not have to fear his family. His job is to support the family and keep the family safe. Hitting a kid is abuse. Threatening to kill your kid is also illegal.
so in conclusion he’s a little bitch who needs to grow up. He needs to grow the fuck up and grow a pair and get over it . He needs to be a parent. NOT A MONSTER!!!

I mean I am a trans man who is a dad***

I am a trans mans fathers dad who is also a trans mans dads father

>I’m not a retard

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>surgeon
>Can barely form a coherent sentence.

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OP, OP,

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Well you shouldnt have let him consume the brainwashing bullshit they feed kids nowadays feed that fuck testosterone and take away any kind of technology no tv no phone

Why can you just be a normal loving parents. Who, when they have problems goes and sees a therapist and works through these problems like a grown ass adult

A surgeon who’s Who’s not typing but is using voice to type because of 12 million other things I have to do with my billion dollar hands right now. Also do you have a PhD and MD? I don’t think so you piece of shit

>I'm a trans man that's also a surgeon
highly doubtful that a mentally ill person could be qualified enough to become a surgeon

nice larp, kys

>Also do you have a PhD and MD?

The only PhD I would believe you have is in gender studies

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Actually we can be doctors you know that right. I’m just capable of going to school for medicine just like everybody else’s. Oh also I’m a child prodigy so suck it

Pediatric surgeon....

I bet this sick fuck is is performing black market dick removals on kids.

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Actually gender studies was my major and my other four majors are psychology anatomy and physiology and in Child development

>Oh also I'm a child prodigy so suck it
nice projection, I'm sure you were the best at gender studies

I feel bad for your kid, cause his dad is more of a faggot than he is. Beating a child only breeds resistance, at least if the child is strong, if you beat them and it works that just means they’re a bitch. Seems like your daughter is more of man than you, miss.

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I don’t touch gender reconstruction surgeon at all. I’m a general surgeon. Look Up what that’s is! Oh I forgot you can’t with your tiny little brain

>four majors

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No one is buying your lies faggot

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>all i wanted was advice
you did get good advice from many people (not counting the obviously bad ones)
it is your job to use it well

> I would rather die than respect my child
> I would rather contribute to trans suicide rates than ensure my daughter WHO IS CLEARLY GOING TO TRANSITION WITH OR WITHOUT ME has a good life and won't want to kill herself

I forgot the killer's name
What is it?

Oh are you jealous because you couldn’t pass high school??? Oh poor baby.
Do you want to PhD. If you do you graduate go to college and do the 12 years of work for it

Actually=millenitard

>supporting mental illness

ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahhhahavahhahahahahha
This has to be a new "my name is john" copy pasta. If not, let him wear the girls clothes. Tell him that the drugs he wants are made from tortured animals and that you do not support animal cruelty. Teach him other shit of how to work with his hands. It'll sort itself out. Got my kid already four and he's taking all my tools and taking shit apart in the house. fucker loosened my favorite chair so when i sat down it fell apart.

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real advice op
disown him and cut contact as soon as you can
a lot of trannies borrow from the narcissist playbook
many call CPS on their own parents in hopes of getting into a situation with foster parents that they delusionally think will sponsor their transition
the longer you hold on, the worse things will get for you - trannies will never be satisfied to listen to anyone else, and they have no problem with bringing you down with them if you don't give them what they want (no matter how much of a terrible idea it is)

why would he be jealous of a mentally ill faggot?

How old is your kid?

Tell him when he can afford it, go for it.

^this

Except

This is literally the only way to support and unsupport something in this country.

Stomp a tranny to death

I hope your son will leave you and finally be who he is his, youre just a disgusting parent and man. You dont deserve children. Imagine the suffering for not being who he is. He will do it anyway but he will also hate you and is right

Have you decided anything from this thread OP? I'm curious

Who said I have meant to illness. Being transgendered doesn’t mean I have mental illness. If you’re such a genius you would know that

Same. I’m hoping OP is soaking his knuckles in a bucket of ice waiting for his faggot son to come home.

>12 years
A PhD is an 7 year degree (4+3). Work on your larp.

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>Being transgendered doesn’t mean I have mental illness

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That’s counting the intern year,And boards that you have to take, in the work in the hospital become a surgeon with PhD

I just gonna be a dick about it. Because if you are making a really good job at it. Uneducated piece of shit

OP is a libtard larping as a trans-phobe to try to solidify his own opinion

He's certainly larping. Also checked.

>a surgeon with PhD

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dude. Transgendered people are literally just a woman's brain in a man's body. your kid's a girl. get over it.

>Uneducated piece of shit
I'll take an actual BS over your imaginary degrees any day

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my grandfather used to think the toaster was alive. Guess he was right too, huh?

where did he get a womans brain
are you sure he isnt just trying to stay home from school

>They kill themselves regardless of acceptance, idiot. Do the research
m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_8564834?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly9kdWNrZHVja2dvLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAANzDm5VrTQpiwuVr1CZDB-aK9zjL3apT2LUxZFUGR6bBlv5feFs9F4BQ8i3Gu_bVTBLGnW6qNCe6zDKL0AfAUBKkTAm0V6dEnyjNPL6hvPbfar0oBSocszzFwS4GTQbYNXMdVW-vWS_lJw3vkuokmJpaaUucqIk3wugphSkKo4Rg
>those with strong support were 82% less likely to attempt suicide than those without support, according to one recent study
>Another study showed that transgender youth whose parents reject their gender identity are 13 times more likely to attempt suicide than transgender youth who are supported by their parents
Hmmm, seems like you are the one who hasn't "done they research" and are just lying about it to mask it all just being about your triggered feels.

People also complain about companies injecting animals with antibiotics, does that mean you're going to stop giving your kid antibiotics or are you just a stupid feels-driven hypocrite lying about the true reasons for your choices?

>Social media invented trannies!
T. stupid zoomer who isn't aware of anything that happened before social media

>buuhhaaasshshshshhskjakkskskkskskksaaaaaahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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Except that opinion clashes with the reality that transition improves outcomes.
"Le 40%" was the lifetime rate, not post treatment, and when broken down by age actually showed no statistically significant difference from gen pop for post 1989 trannies.
If you've heard that the suicide rate was"higher" after treatment, that's also a misinterpretation spread by people not knowing how to read the research or actively lying about it. That research said the rate was lower than pre-treatment but still higher than gen-pop which liars and idiots misinterpreted as higher than before treatment.

>Who cares about supporting muh kid, da Yea Forums anons say it'd be the same as voting for mental illness for president!

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They're not wrong.
Gender dysphoria is mental illness but if that is effwctively alleviated by transition then they're literally not considered mentally ill anymore.
You laugh because you find it ridiculous but you're just ignorant of the reality.

I know you're almost certainly baiting/falseflagging but it's not that simple.
The woman/man-brained, woman/man born in the wrong body is more metaphorical than literal.
We have discovered neurological differences that place certain regions in trans people closer to the norm of their identified sex but it's nowhere near complete.

Haven't shit an hero in years. Congrats oldfag

You had a kid to carry on your bloodline, when hes not what you envisioned now you're angry. Get over it. You'll be dead and dust in the ground long before he will and if you want to spend the last year's on Earth being pissed then do it, but don't expect sympathy. Either accept him/her or don't, make a fucking choice already and live with it. Life never turns out the way we want or imagined. After a time it's society's problem not yours.

This

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tranny yourself faggot, thatll show him

fucking kys Op
i mean it

accept or except?

...

just fucking skin the little faggot. if hes literally so retarded and delusional that he cant fathom a world where hes just a beta gay male then theres absolutely no point in keeping him around. he'll spew out retarded, mindless, spineless lgbt horse shit and diminish the human race. let him rot

hang yourself you fucking tard

Yeah they existed before but everyone knew they were freaks then. With the Internet they can keep spreading their ideas as much as they want it doesn't help when the media keeps celebrating their mental illness

Mfw the Catholic pope supports the LGBT community, because a good christian is supposed to be kind and loving, not a piece of shit. You'll burn in Hell for treating your kid like this, regardless of what you think. God is probably disgusted with the way you turned out.

God personally demolished two cities for their degeneracy, and cursed anyone who mourned over them.
God would be proud of OP's behavior. More should aspire to be like him.

Don't pay for his surgery but if he wants to do it then let him pay for it himself

fuck the gay out of him duh

great job OP you have raised a fag. are you ready to fly the gay flag outside your house?