Anti religious memes? Bonus for anti Christian shit

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>Anti religious memes? Bonus for anti Christian shit

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It's assumed to be from the left because it's almost exclusively those on the left who are incapable of accepting harsh truths of reality, such as the notion that pain might serve a purpose.

The same people who know full well that you need the bad to appreciate the good, will then post a meme like the OP, which is completely counter to such a notion.

Religion ultimately stems from the concept of community and thus it boils down to God seeing the human population as a thing that needs to be moderated in whole, and not as a series of individuals who each need protecting and to have their individual needs met at all times. God is not conceptualised as a servant but as a father, and sometimes the father smacks your ass with a belt.

That being said, i'm not religious, but i have respect enough to explore and understand the beliefs of those with whom i disagree. Whereas, yet again, leftists stand out in this regard as leftists refuse to understand the views of others. This stems from the fact that leftists tend to look upon their own views as immutable truths that the plebiscite have simply yet to come to terms with. You can see them display this part of their personality when they characterise those who voted for Trump, or Brexit, or any number of other generally conservative or populist things, as "misinformed" or "tricked", as though the only way anyone could disagree with a leftist is if they were too stupid to realise that they're wrong.

That is to say, the meme in OP's post has leftist all over it.

>when you see kids going through their "rebellious atheist" phase

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>as leftists refuse to understand the views of others
Oh, sweet irony.

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Come back when you're 18.

This applies to the right as well.

Also the thing with God is that he has the power to make things not suck. If someone with complete control of a situation makes a portion of it bad so you can appreciate the whole, then that person is an asshole. Imagine a waiter cumming in your drink so that you can enjoy appreciate your lunch more... I'd enjoy it more solely on account of the cum.

You can say that all you like, however you have yet to make any kind of argument to support any kind of claim that those in the centre or in the right dont, by and large, understand the views of leftists. I mean, leftist views are plastered all over the internet and in the news every single day, they've been broken down so many times that even children can understand them.

I refuse to allow you to forget the fact that it's leftists who are the ones who, time and time again, have tried to shut down debate. When was the last time you heard of somebody in the centre or right trying to prevent somebody else from speaking? Exactly.

Trust in the scientific narrative =/= atheism. You can be atheist and honestly admit you don't know where shit came from. Just because theist claims haven't been substantiated enough to make one believe them, doesn't make someone have to accept another explanation.

You enjoy water on the basis of your thirst.

Thirst alone cannot be characterised as a nice experience. It is the quenching of your thirst that provides the, even small amount of, joy.

Do you think if we never felt thirsty, that we would drink enough water to maintain our health?

more plausible than an old man in the sky

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christopher was a debrained piece of shit that removed your moms eyes for sex
"no es patty michavo" it was your mother

So your saying if children didn't die often then I'd never be happy to see children? It's different when someone causes the "thirst" and claims that it helps me enjoy the "water". You sound like you are religious.

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Then why do we need to drink water in the first place? What was god's purpose by making that a necessity? You're not looking deep enough man.

By the way, did your father never give you chores to do? Do you, being an adult, now understand why he did it? Do you think it had a positive or negative effect on you personally in the long run?

None of us ultimately enjoy working, however it is a simple truth that work must be done in this life. Do you think the process of carving out that part of you that can work hard would be a joyous experience?

The progression of society through time has been greatly characterised by advancements in science and technology, orchestrated by those who felt, as a result of experiencing personal pain, and also as a result of bearing witness to the pain of others, that the world needed some improvement.

If we were built to be completely satisfied with huddling in caves trying to keep warm and living from meal to meal, then that's exactly where we would be now.

If you don't understand the value of pain and sadness, then you have some serious growing up left to do.

Long is the way and hard, that out of Hell leads up to the light.

This really struck a chord with ya..huh

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The mistake isn't belief in a "god." The mistake is belief that god gives a fuck and made up a whole bunch of arbitrary rules for us to live by. Anything sufficiently complicated can be attributed to magic (god). Just because we don't know or understand how/why doesn't mean that we should eat fish on Fridays.

You're gonna be so disappointed in that brief instant as you're dying when you realize your entire life has been a lie. At least that disappointment will be over quickly though.

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WAT GODDAMN GOD WOULD ALLOW THIS

Who/what created God and how?
>God always existed/came from nothing. Herpaderp

Any attribute we ascribe to God is us projecting our humanity onto whatever that force is. Good, benevolent, malicious. It's all just a bunch of stuff that happens.

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My father died when I was two and I'd never done a chore that I didn't offer to do. I understand that people need to learn those lessons and that - sometimes - it needs to be taught to you in a punishing way. But some of us understand that things just gotta get done.

I never disagreed on the value of pain. But there are other ways to teach and better a person that an omnipotent God should be aware of.

You really are religious aren't you. There's nothing wrong with reading into it as values like it's meant to be done, but the brainwashing of people into believing of God's and magic is harmful to impressionable folks who think God will provide for them. I think core values should be taught in school as an alternative, but some people need the "fear of God" to keep them just.

I believe that if there was a God, he would be the God of life and death. A creator of the conditions and laws of time, space and nature, that allow life to spring forth out of the universe. Therefore i don't believe that God would have created diseases, i believe they're a natural occurence as a result of such conditions, and even we who are not religious still understand the world in such a context. That is to say, we all understand disease, not as a punishment from god, but as an unemotional result of millions of years of evolution. But that's simply what i and many others would like to be the case if there were infact a God.

Those who believe diseases are a punishment sent from God, and those who believe God merely permits diseases to exist, believes that God sees the value of diseases through the lense of the lessons that they may teach.

If we are to care about our own children, it means we will also have some affection for other children, and thus is an example of the notion that the mere existence of love necessitates the exist of pain by association (pain empathy).

Maybe we want to rid ourselves of the negative feelings arising from such pain empathy, then we must also in turn rid ourselves of our love.

If we didn't love our children, would we be able to care for them in such a fashion as to raise healthy and functional members of society?

People starving on the other side of the world may well serve as a reminder to us that we are one great community, rather than a series of individuals who only need consider selfish interests. We may not, as an individual, be able to help the billions of people living in poverty, but we can collaborate in order to alleviate at least some of the pain. Whether it's dealing with personal demons or tackling issues on a global scale, these are the very things which we all know bring value to life.

>Life his hard, therfore god.
>Life is pleasant, therefore god.
>Up is not down, therefore god.
Belive as you wish, let others do the same.

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As many great men throughout history have said, to paraphrase, you should not aim for your day to be filled with happiness, rathet you should aim for your life to be filled with meaning.

I do not believe in God, i am, infact, the one in this situation who is defending the beliefs of others. This entire thread was created to insult and belittle the beliefs of the religious. I am merely here to say that you're mischaracterising their views to stroke your own egos. Whereas if you show respect enough to understand, you'll find that truths such as these are flexible and layered, rather than life being something that can be understood as easily as staightforwardly as one might understand addition and subtraction.

People that are super religious seem to have daddy issues.

I agree that religion is great if it gives you psychological ease and structure that helps you do the right thing even when you don't want to. There are people that can live good lives and make good choices without that *kind* of scaffolding (they of course use different scaffolding in similar ways)

The dangerous thing about religion is the "Fuck you if you don't believe" and "You're a bad person if you don't worship my God or follow all of the *silly* aspects of my religion" Or demand that civil laws reflect their particular type of faith. Fuck that noise.

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The fear of punishment in the afterlife is merely an extention of the punishment you recieve in life. Living a life of degeneracy is its own hell.

You can characterise religion as "brainwashing people to believe in magic and indoctrinating them with a fear of god to keep them in line", however that's not how the religious see it, and im sure many religious people have their own mischaracterisations about those without religion.

How about we call parenting "the brainwashing of those who are too weak and ignorant to rebel or know better".

Also romantic relationships are merely tricking somebody into being a slave to your physical and emotional needs, right?

There's a myriad of different ways to characterise any given situation. It's the tendency of those who disagree with other peoples choices to believe that the least flattering characterisation of them is most accurate.

I'm simply saying you should have respect enough for others, and you should be humble enough to accept the notion that they could be right and you could be wrong.

Parenting and romance don't ask me to believe in magic, angles, and demons. I'm not saying that the lessons are the brainwashing bit. I'm saying that the stories about devine powers is.

I respect anyone who nurtures the same air of respect. I wouldn't dream of pushing my ideas on others.

Also the main mischaracterisation you made there is that "God will provide". You're completely misunderstanding this notion.

You seem to think that the religious think that if they go to church every sunday, they'll get a Ferrari. Whereas those who are religious understand the deeper meaning behind the tales in the Bible, take them as lessons to live by, and feel that living with those lessons in mind is its own reward.

In many ways, religion helps people cope with the pains of life. Now, you can try to convince yourself that you're too strong to need help to cope, but no psychologist would agree that dealing with pain alone, and some of the strongest people i know are those who have a certain trust that those close to them in their lives will provide a source of strength in times of weakness, and those people in question are both religious and not religious. The heart of religion is one that can be carried with you outside of religion, however religion gives you the guideline, something to fall back on, tradition and structure.

I used to be one of the most pro-atheist/anti-religious people you could ever meet, but then you grow up.

Most people go through a rebellious little atheist phase. Letting the world know that you can choose, at any time, to say no to their rules and strictures is a part of becoming a mature adult.

Just remain humble.

He doesnt know the big bang is just a theoery, a game THEORY.

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You're quick to tell people they're wrong for a humble dude.

>those who are religious understand the deeper meaning behind the tales in the Bible, take them as lessons to live by, and feel that living with those lessons in mind is its own reward.
Here's the problem... they don't. Perhaps most people do sure. But many religious people blindly believe that if they do nothing and go to church they will have good things happen to them. I strain myself to keep my grandmother alive because of this belief. And I know a few others who follow this line of thinking as well. Maybe it's some bad priests who aren't good at teaching, but people take different things out of it.

I did state that minus the ideas of magic I have no issue with religion. In fact Is add that it's great without that stuff.

Of course there are literalists, and there are atheists who have used such a rejection of a deeper meaning as a stepladder towards progressing or adopting beliefs such as that life has no meaning and there's no reason we should ever do anything, and that morality is a fantasy, and then suddenly you have people in leather BDSM gear exposing themselves to children in the street at pride rallies.

There are people who take the wrong path in any ideology. It's foolish whoever to characterise any ideology by such people.

As i was saying, there are religious literalists, however those people are certainly not the majority. The majority of religious people understand angels and demons as metaphysical manifestations of ultimate good or bad.

I mean, read The Divine Comedy, i'll paste out a quote from near the start of Inferno:

"You see the beast that forced me to retreat; save me from her, I beg you, famous sage, she makes me tremble, the blood throbs in my veins." "But you must journey down another road,” he answered, when he saw me lost in tears,“if ever you hope to leave this wilderness; this beast, the one you cry about in fear, allows no soul to succeed along her path, she blocks his way and puts an end to him. She is by nature so perverse and vicious, her craving belly is never satisfied, still hungering for food the more she eats. She mates with many creatures, and will go on mating with more until the greyhound comes and tracks her down to make her die in anguish."

Do you think Dante Alighieri is saying that there is a wolf that is the physical manifestation of greed and lust that exists on earth? Or do you think he is merely saying that greed and lust stand in your path as a metaphysical force seeking to prevent you from reaching your own personal salvation. (Salvation being an ascent to righteousness, and becoming defined by positive traits such as strength, wisdom, and virtue.)

See:

I meant "It's foolish, however, to characterise any ideology by such people".

but isn't that why people say abortion is bad but death penalty is ok? people i pose that question to say it's ok because fetuses are innocent but adults are not.

Well that's the common belief, that to become human (adult) is to shed the innocence that god imparted to you, and, in the process, learn to sin. This is the primary reason many religious people characterise children as angels, rather than as human at all.

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I haven't read the Bible and have no interest in doing so. But someone or something makes people believe that it's literal. If we want to blame the people themselves that's fine with me. I think however that it's possible to refine the idea and to be more explicit in the lessons. Buddhism seems to get along just fine. Never met a Buddhist who didn't exemplify their religion.

I'm not generalizing all of religion to be that way. Atheism has no institution, so there Is no one directly blamed for it's teachings. Religion does, and thus it is responsible to teach literalists not to take it at face value.

Would you be as vocal if there was an anti-atheist thread? After all, we shouldn't characterize the whole group based off the actions of a minority.

AHEM...
If it cannot be explained by SCIENCE, THEN IT'S FAKE. It's as simple as that.

Questions like this are silly. He could say yes or no and weather or not it's true both you and him would believe it.

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But... no dinosaurs!

Exactly

No one thinks it came from nothing. You're just too stupid to understand what a singularity is.

Are there MULTularities?

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It depends if the thread were founded on mischaracterisations and strawmen. Though i would imagine that i would not be so vocal, but that's merely because Yea Forums is, in general, very anti-religion and has been for over a decade.

The onus is generally on the minority to defend itself. The majority have enough proponents.

I mean, most of these theologians, or religious scholars, that you see people like Richard Dawkins debating with, do not set down a good argument for the religious, so if the atheistic wish to see a good argument for their cause, it's quite easy to find, whereas, even though i'm not religious, i find that the religious very rarely find a key figure who can solidly defend their ideals.

I think the main thing that drew me to Jordan Peterson was his modern take on religion and its ever-increasing importance in times of morally-relativistic chaos such as these, as, like i said, i'd never really heard an important figure speak on issues i'd been contemplating for years at that point.

The question is for them to reflect on. Perhaps they say yes and they mean it, good for them. If they don't mean it they need to deal with the cognitive dissonance that hypocrisy creates.

If they say no, then maybe they will think on why they wouldn't do this for their outgroup.

It is often the vocal minority that sets the perspective of the group, is it not? That seems to be a big thesis on what you have been arguing this whole time.

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Many philosophers that study ethics do not posit moral relativism. You do not need a religious framework to be a proponent of moral objectivism.

because the right is 90% christian fundamentalists.

Original sin is catholic BS. children are innocent until they both understand and choose to sin. We all do it eventually. Usually it's telling a lie.

What is pangea?

>children are innocent until proven guilty
ftfy

I love how the Republicans, who see themselves as manly men, and put so much emphasis on their masculinity, are also the republicans that literally worship a jewish Twink talk about their love and devotion and "personal relationship" with jesus, and are on their knees eagerly awaiting "the coming" of their lord.

Also all their preachers and priests are faggots and/or child molesters. Ted Haggard, lol....

Also let me be clear, to any of the people i've replied to so far, as i feel there might be some confusion about me saying religion is important and also saying i'm not religious.

I am not religious, however i see great value in religion and i do wish i had been raised with religion. For lack of a better word, i guess you could say i "idolise" religion. I suppose i could be called a little bit of a ludite also (and a hypocrite) as i believe that, regardless of all the great advancements in technology that have been made that have saved lives and such, i still think the world would be better off if people werent always huddled around computers and phones. However, like i said, you could call me a hypocrite for spending the majority of my free time, outside of work, on the internet.

I simply believe community and structure are two of the most important things in life.

That's a very elementary way of putting it but yes

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Damnit is that you, Xxgh0stkillaxX? I told you my dad works for Microsoft and he'll delete your account if you keep talking shit!

What a blasphemous heathen

Of course you dont need to be religious to be a proponent of moral objectivism, however, it is a good source of guidance to a life lived with moral objectivism banked as a "fact".

Just as you don't need to eat bread to sate your hunger, nonetheless it is a good source of sustinence if you so choose it.

I do get your point, because you're used to hearing people argue that without religion there is no such thing as morality. I don't, however, believe that to be the case.

>"no man, but without religion we would not have morals! think about the society!"
>meanwhile a movie about priests comes out in my country
>they literally admit to molesting kids for years
>admit it's widespread, the church doesn't do anything about it other than "let's move this dude to another church somewhere else"
>the goverment is a rightwing nutcase which depends on rightwing catholic voters so they also don't do anything about it, even defend it
yeah naw dawg, imma pass on this whole "religious morals" thing

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There is nothing more cringe than attention seeking atheists. No one is impressed with you or your ability to accept the idea of God on your deathbed. It's so gay

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Personally I plan to raise my child with Egyptian mythology and watch as the monotheistic cretins of modern day destroy my pride and joy by dismissing their beliefs. A small price to pay for salvation.

got any proof for God there big guy?

God is the guy on the left.

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Damn can't believe that went unchecked. This just proves that atheists and theists are retarded. Pay attention to the things that matter people!

Firstly, nobody in this thread has argued the first point. Secondly, the notion that the religious are capable of sin or of outright evil, is not an alien concept to religious people in general. Infact, most people are aware that power has a corrupting effect.

People in general are reluctant to believe that those in whom they have placed their faith, could be evil or criminal, that's the truth whether you apply it to religion or not.

I have to say that you really have a childlike grasp of this topic if thats all you can bring to the table.

"Some religious people are bad and therefore all religious people are wrong and bad."

I don't think you would level such a moronic claim if it weren't aimed at such an easy target as religion.

>Do you think if we never felt thirsty, that we would drink enough water to maintain our health
If you never felt thirsty you'd be at proper hydration levels.
Thirst is a response from running low.

>God's specifically and exclusively chosen establishment on earth
>crawling with sex abusers

okay

A supper continent that took longer than 2000 years to separate into the continents we know today at a rate of a fucking inch a year.
You can't pick and choose which parts of the Bible you pay attention to justify the current story.

Leaving the topic but your thirst response could possibly malfunction and you'd just dehydrate.

but dude the theology allows it so it's okay duh you stupid fuck, you don't understand this extremely nuanced topic

God allows it cuz he knows how shitty this world is

You can claim that the religious are more likely to be pedophiles. However a little common sense would tell you that pedophiles are more likely to undertake professions that afford them contact with, and power over, children.

Do you think education is an evil institution also, simply because of the amount of teachers who bang their students?

Again, you're not applying your argument to other notions, and therefore you're not realising that what you're saying is blatantly idiotic.

except that right is made up entirely of people reacting to christian culture...?

My point was that if your body never expressed it's need for hydration (thirst) then you would most likely not consume enough water to maintain your health.

See; Moron.

I'm not talking about "the religious" I'm talking about a very specific institution you moron. If you were God would you take a few steps to ensure your one chosen institution isn't crawling with sex offenders? I mean, God apparently breaks the laws of nature all the time so this really isn't too much of a ask

>What, so just because we claim to speak for God we're held to a higher standard?

Gonna go get some water mate

Ignore the thirst and you get heat stress / stroke.
Homeostasis look that shut up you fucking retard.
Thirst isnt to appreciate the water its a sigal that you haven't input enough water to replace what's being lost.
If you never see the signal, you're properly hydrated, not it's just fucking missing.

even in a non-religious argument, this quote works beautifully.

Man you gotta read the thread. No one in this thread believes in a god. At least no one worth arguing with.

Except that defies the notion of free choice. The religious believe that god merely wishes to guide, and that only by CHOOSING to do the right thing, can you ever be righteous. If you're only ever permitted to make the right choice, then you might aswell be an empty husk.

Essentially you're saying "if there was a God, he wouldn't allow anything bad to ever happen". If that's really what you believe, then you need to read a little more on religion, or abstain from the debate entirely. Low energy and high ignorance input wastes everybodies time.

just gonna breeze past the fact atheists accept God when their dying huh? Pathetic

Well the next step after simple thirst is dehydration, are we missing that signal too case then we'd just all die our first day in the sun.
Thirst is already running low on water. So we should barely ever have that feeling fellow water sack...

Whoa dude, calm it down it a bit. I don't have any AC so this flame is not appreciated. I'm not user, the justiciar of religious beliefs. user, says some stuff, get some (you)s. I was just stating that I expect it's possible since people can be born without nerves(nerve endings? Idk) and similar situations.

It's 2019. Become a nazi if you want to be edgy or shut the fuck up

I believe in God. I'm not an idiot

They CLAIM to speak for God, but they were appointed by man. Only a man who has become prideful of his apparent piousness, could believe that he speaks for God.

Just because they claim to speak for God, doesn't mean that if God existed, they would be his voice, and it also doesn't mean that if God existed, he/she/it would have a vested interest in maintaining its reputation by purifying its earthly institutions.

How could a being so grand as to create a universe from nothing, ever be so petty as to care what humans think of it.

>no one worth arguing with.

You barely ever feel thirst? Are you a lizard or a man? I mean no insult but come on buddy, you're being completely dishonest if you think that it isn't mostly thirst which compels you to drink.

>denies free choice
>God literally ordains people, and many times in the Bible gives people certain roles as well "hardening hearts"
>Jesus had to be crucified, multiple people involved in this process

do they? lol

You do realise this doesn't prove anything? Do you know even the basics of logic?

>How could a being so grand as to create a universe from nothing, ever be so petty as to care what humans think of it.

That's what my dad said to me when I asked why he didn't come to my graduation.

> Man in sky says abortion is bad

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>Boble
I've never lost so hard to a single word. I hope that was intentional.

kek

Good thing I'm Christian and don't gain or lose worth based on some loser on the internet.

For the rest of you, stop relying on churches to represent Christ. Church has become insanely corrupt and is causing more harm than good. Try taking the bible as seriously as you do the scribblings from people in lab coats once in a while. Atheists are npcs

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Imagine wasting this much energy on something that you don't like.

Yes. All the time.

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Kek ok dude

It literally proves you all don't even believe your own nonsense. You npcs are so retarded

I love religion. Good stories are hard to come by. However you really really should not take it literally.

proof?

>but i have respect enough to explore and understand the beliefs of those with whom i disagree.
but you group together over half of americans as "the left"
you can't play the tolerant card than make brash generalizations about huge groups of people.
do you not see the hypocrisy?

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no it doesn't, it proves that some people lose their cognitive functioning on their deathbeds (big surprise)

is your argument for God this:

God exists because some atheists say they believe in God when they die?

You know its hard to win an argument you came out of the gate losing. You were already flailing insults as early as your attempts at projection.
Dude maybe read an actual book and you'd learn a thing or 2 from it? I bet the concrete data supplied in books all around the world would look alien in the hands of a biblethumper.

I just came here to say that atheism is also a religion

>What about all the innocent people who have to suffer?

Maybe God is omnibenevolent but he doesn't care about individuals enough to constantly intervene. Maybe he's a mean motherfucker and he deliberately makes people suffer. Maybe he's a cruel God and on top of that he doesn't give a fuck about our pathetic lives and just let's all this horrible shit happen to us.

tfw you just got out of church listening to your fundie preacher's hot takes

yeah or maybe he just doesn't exist lol

Fake? No way of knowing for sure. It’s unsubstantiated. That’s for sure.

No actually, I think atheism is about as ridiculous as any other religion. They are all irrelevant.

No. Read what I'm typing and assume that's what I meant.
I'm very well read. I'm not suddenly wrong because I'm using the same language you all use. I'm speaking to crowd in language they understand. I'm currently on b, and you're generally potty mouthed. Don't worry, I'm losing interest very quickly. I'm not here to shoulder all of your hatred for Christ just because you hate yourselves. Tons of fatherless teens it's sad honestly

a-theism

>a religion

>I believe in God.
>I'm not an idiot

Pick one

okay so the fact that some atheists when they die believe in God proves what? Do you have any statistics about how many atheists do this or is it a couple you've heard about, maybe a hunch?

I said leftists. Leftists are a group within the left and are not characteristic of the left as a whole.

>some loser on the internet.

Says the “Christian” who is cruising Yea Forums

Well, you’re wrong.

That is also an option. But the fact that the world is a mean nasty place and that innocent people have to suffer doesn't prove that God doesn't exist.

Then how come the answer is generally an excuse, or the devil did it... religion is nothing more than mythology.

Wow! The stupid is thick on this one.

If you think this is the process of dying you should be very silent when atheists are debating. Youre definitely not a pinch hitter

google the definition of atheism

tfw your grandad dies with severe alzheimer's and blurts out he believes in God and you're like woah paps you got a point there

It's past time to make yourself be with god.

I'm at work listening to podcasts and I come every once in a while because there is sometimes news posted here before other websites scrub or edit. Quit projecting and Catch up

>"guys believe in this deity that'll make you a good person and shit"
>"but actually it corrupts people and it's okay to do bad shit"
then what the fuck is religion even for, both as a faith and insitution, if it can't even police its own people to be at least less fucking bad than the average person?

what's the point of worshipping an overseer if he does jack shit
that's like sending emails to your dad that never visits you, never replies back nor does anything that would indicate he is still alive
and this is waaaaay worse, since it's fairly established you had a dad, other people have dads, dads have been observed and defkned and can be said that dads exist
this "dad" is neither defined, observed, interactive nor consistently appearants
for all that is worth, he doesn't exist until he starts meeting the criteria

>that's like sending emails to your dad that never visits you, never replies back nor does anything that would indicate he is still alive
except when putting his picture on your toast every other decade

Both Christianity and Islam budded off from Judaism. You're pointing to the origin of the problem.

gotta' love when believing in magic is a sign of maturity.

fuck am*rica
you just know only am*rica is filled with incels of both sides of any argument which noone caes about

>Man in the sky
Actually, it's the "Magical Sky Daddy."

I absolutely agree that community is an important aspect of our human existence that religion facilitated and has been gradually eroded in the past few decades. However, I don't think religion is necessary to build a community.

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Unicorns are unsubstained. Dragons are unsubstained too. By your reasoning any folklore story might have existed, when we're well aware that physics laws are absolute and magic doesn't exist.

That's because they killed actual babeies.

Abortion does not kill babies, it kills an unviable feotus.

>When was the last time you heard of somebody in the centre or right trying to prevent somebody else from speaking? Exactly.
All the fucking time. If you don't see it it is because you are a right wing tribalist arrive are blind to the flaws of your 'team'. Both sides try constantly to discredit or silence the other. The center doesn't exist because of the de-facto two party system we live under.

>It came from nothing
Said no scientist ever.

tfw your primary education came from ben shapiro with revision practises guided by prager """u"""

warming up

>so many long winded posts
>tl;dr
>so few memes
Theists can't follow directions

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its the goddamn tijuana tortillas playlist again
its informer by snow up next
two thousand years and a dog translated it

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>I am merely here to say that you're mischaracterising their views to stroke your own egos.
Not true. Some of us only ask questions and mock the actual beliefs without mischaracterising them in any way. It isn't hard. Religious beliefs are inconsistent and unable to be sensibly defended.

Well, I'm all out.
Not too many on my phone

You kids have fun

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lole
mank
lil lupe was already a porno seh bitche

God doesn’t seem to mind. We make the world the way it is.

I do not know one right leaning person that is not religiously inclined. Ppl I know on the left tend to be anti-theist, but pretend to be atheist.

this literally shows the mentality of the right, purely anecdotal

prehuman.

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>op

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No issue with that here. I also capitalize Santa and Spiderman...

ehh, you don't know much about the catholic church scandal do you? The entire church covered up the molestations and allowed priests to keep doing it, moving them from town to town.

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>you believe in a god
>believe god has a plan
>you pray to god
>ask god to change the plan
>???
>you don't believe in god

Yeah I know, And all muslims are backward cunts who want to live in the stone age, and kill anyone that doesn't agree with them.
Your point

>>you believe in a god
>>believe god has a plan
>>you pray to god
>>ask god to change the plan
>>Nothing ever happens
>Critical thinking bring a dawning to you that you've been brainwashed
>Cast off comforter, despite threats of eternal damnation
>>you don't believe in god
>Profit

Lets play the semantics game! When someone tells me their wrong I tell them they don't know what words mean!

They are. That's why they're called Leftists you moron

Get saved faggots

Am I winning yet? What? Yes I am! You don't know what winning means!

Yeah, you are.

Imagine being so pathetic that you defend shitskins

no one in the catholic church is ok with death penalty.

tfw u watch prageru

Dafuq is pregeru?

So you're saying got can't make rainbows and kill people in the same breathe? What's so hard to believe about an artist painting a picture the. Shooting you in the face?

it's what you were home-schooled on

Lmfao pangea is before the dinosaur

Imagine being such a low iq fedora wearning niggerlover that you need to cling to the fact that god may not exist to try and appear intelligent.

People on the Left are Leftists
People on the Right are Rightists
People in the Centre are Centrists

"Oh no, I'm on the Left, but not a Leftist, they're a pan sub culture!!"

You've been on the Left far too long Leftist.

>Rightists

This. Except for the nigger thing. Let's be honest. Most athiest pricks are white college folks

Damn, that guy is mad

>may
lol nigger detected

Thats right goyim, spread your euphoric ideology for the glory of human independance

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Human affairs happen because of humans having free will given by god. Natural things happen because god intended them that way. This is an awful strawman

Imagine thinking all political thought can be condensed into three categories.

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Last I looked, most of the UK and Europe weren't college kids.
Face it pal, your believe in magical space wizards is becoming a hard sell, and people are turning away in droves.
Fuck, I don;t know anyone in the UK that believes in a invisible magic space man. It;s not the fucking dark ages, that's why Jesuscuck!

It literally can.
Formulate a political idea, I'll find a pigeon hole for it.

you do realise the left/right spectrum didn't exist since time began?

Politics and science mix as badly as theology and science, I get that this is already a battlezone between the three but it gets old, its constant with no end.

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>Politics and science mix as badly as theology and science, I get that this is already a battlezone between the three but it gets old, its constant with no end.

But Brando is what plants crave

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Just because political philosophy didnt come into being until a couple of thousand years ago, doesn;t mean that the demarcation of Left and Right can't be applied to those pre philosophical periods of history.
Jesus was a Leftist.
Islam is a Political ideology - It's Right wing fascist
The Roman Empire was Right wing militant for most of it's history. When it became Leftist, it collapsed.
Ghengis Khan was Right Wing militant
British Empire was Right Wing Mercantilist and Militant.

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no pic but i got a story
>years ago
>last day before summerholidays (8/9th grade)
>behind me were bibles for the religion class
>we had breakfast together and my seat neighbor brought a E-wok
>a friend brought some salami
>were a Atheist sandnigger
> i cooked a few salamis and took raw ones into a few bibles
>placed them right on the first page of the old testament
>the bibles stood there for over 6 weeks
>never found out till this day if someone got a salami bible or not

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>Ghengis Khan was Right Wing

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tfw the Roman Empire started reading Judith Butler

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Rome didn't turn leftist when it fell. Ironically it became a Christian theocracy when it fell

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I remember the old days when people didn't get offended and bawl at every meme that didn't reflect their beliefs and ideals.
Sure smells new in here.

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One of them is willing to explode her own children

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I'd have to come down to the idiot level to explain it to you. So we'll just say you're special and leave it there shall we.

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But if Christ died for ALL our sins, why is sinning still bad? Are you saying the Son of God died for nothing?

>n-no ur s-s-stupid
seething

Marduk was a chad god

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lol which one?

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Your sentence is an Oxymoron.
New testament Christianity is Leftist. Don't mistake Christianity then, for what you see today. They're worlds apart
Rome turned its back on its military, and started embracing migrants, who repeatedly invaded them it turns out. Rome eventually became more and more decadent, and collapsed.

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Anyone got the Chinese vlogger sun death?

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Without religion, earth would have looked like the right side centuries ago.

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God is real tho, my wife is pregnant and we never fucked

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Is proponent your favourite word?

There’s nothing more cringeworthy than someone who believes in fairytales, and can’t think critically. Next

Maybe learn how to spell Vietnam before attempting to look intelligent

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You’re an npc. So what makes your god real, but everyone else is wrong, you arrogant fuck. Learn to fucking think.

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I mean that fag does have a point, half of you are gonna become believers right as you're dying.

Here is a faggot who doesn’t realise what atheism is. There is no belief. It’s a realisation that there are no gods. You idiot. I hope you’re young

Atheism is pretty much a religion in it's self and the ones who push it are just as fanatical as the faggots they spend their lives shitting on

pic related, smug look of being 'enlightened

>Zone prisdimme bunooo

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Once again, there is no evidence of this.

What does abortion have to do with a Christian and a Muslim fanatic? Non of them would abort their child. One of them would however explode their own children.

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Theres no evidence that you wont

>no u

Nope. Atheism has no organisation and no doctrine. No faith and no mythology.

so we are assuming something is true because there is no evidence to the contrary?

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Why won't people just call it inferiority complexes instead of religion? If you removed Islam from the middle east, they would just find another fairy tale to excuse their retarded behavior

>You can't prove you won't!
So exactly the same non argument theists use to try and justify their faith.

There is a black teapot floating between the orbits of Mars and Jupiter.

#1 user of abortions in america christian females

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how many abortions do christian males have?

>implying I'm a theist

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dunno how many have you had?

I've as many abortions as I have had hysterectomies and mammograms

If you're wrong, you're wrong

Don't make the snowflake cry angry tears, you bully!

Can you sacks of meat just stfu, I'm watching Seinfeld

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