How did the dems fuck up so bad?

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When have they ever not fucked up?

take it to /pol/ fucktards

ge i dont know maybe by starting a bs meme investigation and trying to make up shit?

They went to college to get indoctrinated with postmodern bullshit instead of learning how to learn.
>that'll be $100,000. Cash or credit?

> any investigation into democrat politicians: a-ok
> any investigation into republican politician: horrible witch hunt
that's how i know your opinion is invalid in any context.

Dems have zero chance in 2020. They are even more hated now, than in 2016.

The reason Trump is in office to begin with is because the Dems fucked up because they are pushing for stupid agendas thinking its going to give them votes and if you dont vote for them you are racist.

its really sad to see, they need to stop letting the same big corp they talk shit about shove hands up their ass and use them as puppets and they need to shut up with all this splitting people apart muh diversity white people are bad victimhood shit, they need to go back to everyone is equal and treat everyone is the same.

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he might only win the nomination if he's lucky but that's as far as he's gonna go.

They had Hillary...

What partisan politics are partisan?

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The far left is already feasting upon his corpse, he’s not going to make it out of Super Tuesday.

Then you are too young to remember the Bill Clinton sex Investigation. God the dems treated it as a witch hunt. Until Monica came out and admitted that it's true. Bill denies it to this day.

They can't just 'go back' now. They've doubled and tripled down on their fuck whitey bullshit. The public will not just forgive and forget. This isn't a two party government anymore, it's two governments trying to eliminate eachother. One of the many reasons people keep talking about civil war.

Pretty much this. I mean we had a choice between the literal embodiment of all three stooges, or a corrupt snake in the grass. No matter ho we choose America was fucked. and the Dems forced Bernie to step down for Hilary. They shot themselves in the foot.

You're not going to see a jewish president until we're 60% illegals.

thats why Mueller said trump could be indicted after he left office right. fumbass

He might get picked up by aliens and made emperor of the universe too. Who knows, right?

would need evidence first

I'm no Bernie fan either, but fuck he was miles ahead of either of those two jackasses. I didn't like him for his socialist stance.

The reason is they are dems.

yeah, IF THERE WERE EVIDENCE

will they ever recover?

Fine, let's examine the 10 cases of obstruction laid out in his report.
Which none of the republicans touched during his testimony. Why is that?

Any of them, are unbelievably dangerous at this point.

What Dem will best him? What Dem will be the next president?

Obamas mother wasn't religiously jewish but wasn't she ethnically jewish? So technically we've already had a jewish president.

>"Can Trump be indicted for obstruction of justice after he leaves office?"
>Mueller: "Yes."
It's pretty clear. You're just hiding from the truth.

Because it was based on a Hilary Clinton made up report she paid for.

See The only way they can recover is with illegal voters or some other rig. I would sooner cut my dick off than ever vote for one again. Two time Obama voter, btw.

Its basically bernie or trump at this point

You mean how did the republicans become so corrupt as to be blatantly ignoring criminal actions now. Impeachment requires the house to pass the articles of impeachment and the senate to actually fucking act of them. Which won't happen now that the russians own the republicans in it.

The citizens need to revolt and overthrow the government. Turn it back into a 1 party government.

>realize 80% of American programs have Socialist roots and systems.

You dipshits need to get out of the dark ages

It's sad how you paint republican crimes as a democrat failure.

>Steel Dossier is relevant to Trump's conduct regarding the investigation

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How about fuck that

there werent 10 cases of obstruction. there were 10 different things they looked into where they thought they might catch him on obstruction.

when asked if they were hindered in any way, mueller said no.
the most damning thing he implied about trump he had to more or less retract during the opening of the second part.

futhermore, mueller said things that were obvious lies. for instance, that he had no familiarity with what fusion GPS was, or that the Steele Dossier's origins were not in his purview.

He completely discredited himself, or revealed that his investigation was not actually ran by him. I also read that he said the letter complaining about barr's summary was not actually written nor signed by him.

no.

The dems took the house
The senate and presidency are next

You uh, don't understand how many things work do you?

Bro you have zero idea how this works.

How could one obstruct that which found no wrong doing? Doesn't work like that. Also, if there were obstruction, Meuller should've said so. He can't say oh, there was no collusion so he shouldn't be charged. But then say idk if there was obstruction so let congress figure it out. It was his job to decide one way or the other. Black and white. He didn't do that. Prosecutors don't exonerate. They charge if there is evidence and don't if there's not. The fact that he didn't = NO collusion (obvious) and NO obstruction. Literally every time Dems asked the steps of obstruction Meuller said "i don't agree with your assessment".

>What Dem will best him?
Biden? If I had to guess, bernie, warren or harris.

>What Dem will be the next president?
No idea, they won't win 2020.

Dream on

Americans are too fat to revolt

I'm hoping a third party will rise out of these ashes. Push the left and the right to the fringe. One concerned with the economy, the other on social issues and a centrist party that is only concerned with the prosperity and well being of the 99%.

Its political theater, nothing more nothing less.
The Republicans and the Democrats are both controlled by the wealthy oligarchy. None of the parties are for the people. Its time for a Labor Party, it that fails again then lets burn this shit down to the ground.

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No, we are not.

Who gives a shit about any of this. Politics are just a big reality tv show. You all eat it up like crazy

Is attempted robbery a crime?

>mueller said no.
Because people like Mcghan or Sessions ignored Trump's unlawful orders.
You people are so full of shit lmao

you cannot be charged for obstruction if there is no actual crime in the first place.

that picture of Trump makes him look like someone else got blamed for his fart.

There has been whispering of a labor party forming if the Dems pull another 2016 primary stunt.

Obstruction is in of itself a crime.

>lmao

you dont know what is lawful or not as in this case. keep laughing, its worked for people like you thus far, right?

Forcing him to testify when he obviously didn't want to.

You meams the ones that havent done shit for this country or actual work in the past 2 years keep making a fool out of themselves? Kek

They didn't? Impeachment would never pass without control of both the house and senate. It's a waste of time that would just give Trump an out for the 2020 election. Meanwhile, there are, I think, 8 other investigations that are literally waiting for Trump to get out of office so they can charge him with crimes. Dude is super fucked post his presidency.

when they took over the education system, when they took over hollywood

It is totally made up and paid for by Hilary Clinton.

This is a stupid fucking idea that's been tried and has failed many, many times. Besides like 5% of over 300 million even give a shit about this.

Vote for who closely represents your values or don't vote at all. Or if it's that bad, just move away.

but if there is no base crime to obstruct, actions against an illegal investigation are not actually obstruction.

Impeachment was never on the table. Dems knew it would never pass and only enrage Trump's base. They just spoke about it as a distraction from their lack of cohesive policy and to appease the far left wing AOC/Omar block.

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Labor did really good in the UK, for a while and then it got corrupted. The first thing they would have to do is get 1%er money completely out of politics. No more special interests or lobbyists either.

Attempting to stop an investigation, whether you like it or support it, is considered obstruction or attempted obstruction. Both of which are crimes.

If there was something to obstruct.
Besides, wasnt this all about russia? Or are we just grasping at straws at this point

Strawman. You literally didn't address anything I stated. Meuller himself, when asked if he agreed with the 1000 prosecutors (dem and rep) that said Trump should've been charged, said "this is a different case from theirs."

Dems are literally arguing "Yeah, there's no collusion but Trump was mad he was getting investigated and wanted it shut down (because he was innocent, as Meuller found) so let's get him for that instead." So retarded.

We've never had this much divide before. Well maybe in the 1860s.

And Trump fags are just small chode, small minded, snowflakes that think they're smarter, cooler that everybody but are really just ignorant, probably a tad bit racist, homophobic, sexist, and just downright hate everyone including themselves. Fuck you, fuck you, fuck you and fuck me

Mueller said in the hearing that Trump can be indicted for obstruction of justice when he leaves office, and the reason Mueller didn't do it during the investigation is because Office of Legal Counseling didn't allow him to.
youtu.be/G1KdLMKtpsw

Trump committed crimes.

>Attempting to stop an investigation, whether you like it or support it, is considered obstruction or attempted obstruction.

this is false. anyone attempting to defend themselves from an investigation is technically trying to stop an investigation. There are ways you can do this legally. There are illegal ways as well. Pushing the issue that the investigation itself is illegal is not an illegal way to defend oneself. Things like destroying incriminating evidence, like thousands of subpoenaed emails and many phones, would be illegal.

by saying that it doesnt matter that the initial charges themselves were fraudulent, but that they caught him in process crimes during an illegal investigation, you are supporting what is known as parallel construction.

Well, I'm convinced.

Thats a lot of fucks user. I dunno if I can get it up 4 times in a row.

>Mueller said in the hearing that Trump can be indicted for obstruction of justice when he leaves office, and the reason Mueller didn't do it during the investigation is because Office of Legal Counseling didn't allow him to.
>youtu.be/G1KdLMKtpsw

no he didnt. He implied that it was possible to charge presidents after office, not that they had evidence which was damning of trump. Your part about the Office of Legal Counseling is exactly what he retracted at the start of part 2. But you didnt hear about that because you only read the headlines you want to hear.

Ive never understood "homophobia" fags are afraid of me, im not afraid of them

Yeah, except the fact that HRC paid for the steele dossier (through a british spy who got fake info from the russians) and the support for said dossier was lied about to the FISA court. Thats why everything is so shoddily put together. Had they actually planned for him winning, Trump would've been out by now. This isn't even the tip of the iceberg. Trump will have a reagan like landslide

Nah that's bullshit. Attempting to defend yourself is not wrong, attempting to actively stop an investigation by trying to fire or undermine is a crime. Whether successful or not.

Isn't Michael Goodwin a writer for fox news?

>fuck me
sry only if you're a 10/10 qt 3.14 female. we have high standards around here

>Bill denies it to this day

Not that there wasn't a historically famous "nation, I have not been honest with you..." Speech or nothing.

>it that fails again then

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>attempting to actively stop an investigation by trying to fire or undermine is a crime.

First of all, this is actually not true.

Second -
If you are an overseer of a department, and there is an employee underneath your authority who is caught doing illegal things (McCabe, Comey, and many others were), they are not immune to you firing them even if they say they are investigating you.

>you dont know what is lawful or not
Sure yo, it's perfectly normal to attempt to get your AG to unrecuse himself with no legal basis. Your conduct is above so above reproach that you try to force your white house lawyer lie about attempting to get Mueller fired.
It's truly a bottomless, ever expanding conspiracy where Trump could never be possibly wrong.
>First, McGahn's clear recollection was that the President directed him to tell Rosenstein not only that conflicts existed but also that "Mueller has to go." McGahn is a credible witness with no motive to lie or exaggerate given the position he held in the White House.601 McGahn spoke with the President twice and understood the directive the same way both times, making it unlikely that he misheard or misinterpreted the President's request. In response to that request, McGahn decided to quit because he did not want to participate in events that he described as akin to the Saturday Night Massacre. He called his lawyer, drove to the White House, packed up his office, prepared to submit a resignation letter with his chief of staff, told Priebus that the President had asked him to "do crazy shit," and informed Priebus and Bannon that he was leaving. Those acts would be a highly unusual reaction to a request to convey information to the Department of Justice.

>Reagan like landslide
For 2020? I'd really be shocked. I think a lot of Dems (like me) weren't happy with Hillary's shady shit and didn't really commit to a vote against trump. He pretty much show'd Dem voters that sat on the fence why you shouldn't do that and he's also kinda fucked over rural republican by not helping any of them like he said he would. Coal is dead but Trump for some reason kept telling them it's gonna come back.

Oh, honey...

>If there was something to obstruct.
Yes, an investigation, which is a carriage of justice. Fuck with an investigation, you're obstructing justice.

>There are illegal ways as well.
Like attempting to get a Special Counsel fired on bullshit charges of "conflict of interest".

If you haven't noticed he's being very diplomatic and careful in his answers to the equivelant of "if you commit murder, and they find the weapon, it's *possible* you'll be convicted of a crime", then you have got to be some kind of autistic.. it's the only reason I'd fully understand and not judge you for being so daft you aren't picking up on the very unsubtle subtlety of what he's been saying.

You know that's an opinion piece correct?

>a carriage of justice

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Written by a fox news writer no less...

You are at many times confusing allegations with facts.
i.e. you pretend that because Cohen says something, its true.
you pretend that because Mueller says something, its true.

this is not how the legal system works. You have to prove that what they are saying is actually true, and taking peoples word for it is not a valid method.

Getting rid of Mueller would not have been illegal. Mueller's team illegal abused the FISA system. Mueller's team illegal leaked false classified info (the Steele Dossier which was funded by Fusion GPS) to the press, and then used press reports of this illegal leaked info as evidence.

Getting rid of Mueller would be the first thing anyone who intends on having a legitimate investigation would do. If trump actually did illegal things, having Mueller's team run the investigation actually undermines the validity of charges.

>Like attempting to get a Special Counsel fired on bullshit charges of "conflict of interest".

this is not illegal, and there actually were conflicts of interest.

Yeah, but on the left you have Dems saying "yeah let's give illegal immigrants free healthcare and decriminalize crossing the border" as if *that's* a good solution. We don't even have healthcare for OURSELVES sorted. Fucking Corey booker and Beto WENT TO MEXICO to campaign. Like, what fucking votes to they get from that? The left has lost their grounding.

Take last week. Trump tweets about the 4 congresswomen in not the best way but def not racist. But the media REEEES the fuck out over them instead of focusing on the fact that Trump ended asylum for central Americans. Twitter is the laser pointer and dems are the cat. The dems got played so hard and they still think Trump is an idiot.

What did he do that was in the report.
He coincidentally had a check signed in his name under an alias. Everyone already was told that. Told that from Bill Barr and James Cohen that its okay to have abortions even if your wife is supposedly from Slovenia or some thing where abortions are illegal. So what if he paid for her to have a private abortion. It's not a big deal its not like it was Muller's Baby or something. If he cheated on them with Stormy Daniels or whatever back in 1990 or whatever who cares. That is just the media making up stories because its what they've done since time they were told to broadcast anything because he owns the the Stupid Television Network and no one in the United States should know that he wants to make a deal with Isreal for nukes just as bad as Hillary wanted to trade with Russia. THE REPORT says he colluded with Russia to influence the election but the fact of the matter is they all did in someway make bargaining chips in order to cheat the election because that's how its been done since Al Gore flubbed his shit in florida with hanging Chads. What secret is that The Only Empire left in the world that has any ties to Nuclear Arms is still Israel and we are all just buying some sort of credit line between not getting BOMBED over the very real arms race that is going to take place once the Queen dies and fucking Merkle makes a new Nazi Europe with her saggy dust filled tits.

Can we just get a normal fucking president already. The far left and the far right are just driving each other into being the stupidest they can be. I’m tired of this country being a circus.

>Take last week. Trump tweets about the 4 congresswomen in not the best way but def not racist

did he directly tweet about them? or did he say that people who hate our country should leave, and they identified with it, as if they thought he was calling them out?

like if you enter a room full of suspects and say "whoever did this crime is a stupid fuck" and one person in the room gets extremely offended.

user, you have to allow law enforcement and investigation agencies do their job.
We aren't talking about your employees stealing Mike n Ike's during shelf stocking...
We're talking about closer to an employee launched a sexual harrassment allegation and now HR has to question management and review evidence to ensure whether or not it happened and determine appropriate action.
And if you fire your HR rep for doing this, the labour board will probably have a lot of questions for you.

youtu.be/LTv3bALwEXY
He flat out stated he could be charged with crimes. It's pretty clear. You can charge someone with a crime unless you have evidence. I realize you haven't read the Mueller report, but you should. It states VERY clearly that there's a lot of evidence that the president committed obstruction of justice on the ten accounts. He also states that as long as it's NOT ALLOWED to indict a sitting president, it would be slanderous of Mueller to make accusations. Therefore, the report lays out the evidence, but does not take a stance on the content.

He DOES NOT exonerate Trump youtu.be/HH45pVPaT8Q
It also DOES NOT accuse the president, it LAYS OUT THE EVIDENCE that he did commit obstruction of justice, and it's up to congress how to pursue this evidence.

Read the report.

Because there is literally no there, there. The Dem party is being anally fucked from within - they don't know which way is up. All the while trying to cover up Hillary and Obama's crimes.

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Democrats are still trying in vain to fight a dirty fight with honor. They're losing, because every other party, not just Republicans, are fighting dirty and cheating at every opportunity.

And by Democrats, I mean the voters. Not the DNC or the politicians in power. Plenty of them are corrupt as fuck, but the ones with any integrity are getting destroyed by this cancerous society we live in, and they don't stand a fucking chance.

Trump is actually a very moderate president. People like Ted Cruz, George Bush, etc are actually much further to the right.

The problem is the media wants to destroy our country so they will try to slander anyone who goes against their plans.

That's exactly what happened. That was my way of semi censoring myself because Dems REEEE when someone says the tweets weren't racist. He legit just said go back, fix that shit, then tell us what worked. If they know so much, they should be able to. Which was his whole point.

>this is not illegal
Yes it is. If there's corrupt intent, and it's patently obvious Trump was thrown into a fit over the investigation because it made him look bad, then that is an abuse of power and illegal.
>were conflicts of interest.
Such as?

>not that they had evidence which was damning of trump
The Mueller report lays out 10 cases of damning evidence against Trump. That's why those ten cases were in the report.

He mentioned "congresswomen" and "go back to your country" in the same tweet.
How many Congresswomen are there that may fit the bill for being foreign, user?

How brainwashed are you that you will actually disect and surgically examine a tweet so closely to try and change it's meaning when it is very, very clear who and what he was talking about?

You didn't watch it, did you?

Ive probably read the report more than you have. They have provided 0 evidence of any illegal activity in the report.

The "exonerate" word is an intentional spin by the democrat party. Investigators do not have the ability to exonerate people. They only have the ability to say "we have enough evidence to charge", or "we do not". They said they did not.

>did he say that people who hate our country should leave
This, along with
"fix their home countries, COME BACK AND SHOW US HOW ITS DONE." which keeps getting left out of these conversations entirely.

>The Mueller report lays out 10 cases of damning evidence against Trump.

no it doesnt, you are talking in circles. It talks about 10 things they looked into for possible obstruction. but they could not find actual obstruction.

>Ive probably read the report more than you have.
How can you read more than 100%?

>Trump is actually a very moderate president
He shutdown government over a wall even bigger and more expensive than what Bush Jr wanted, and is crossing his fingers to stack a conservative Supreme court before he's out of office.

You're a terrible liar or a outright moron.

>and "go back to your country" in the same tweet.

there is nothing wrong with telling immigrants who identify as people who hate our country to go back to their country.

The reason it was very very clear who he was talking about is because those 4 are actually guilty of hating our country.

Huh? What politician is saying that at all? Most of the left wants free healthcare for citizens and think spending money on the wall is stupid because it isn't actually stopping criminals with drugs and that kind of shit, and punishes those just coming for a better life, which is still illegal but we should be punishing businesses that higher this people over a wall that so far hasn't been added to in any significant way.

As for his comments on the 4 congress women, what he said was the equivalent of telling someone to go back to Africa. It's very not okay and isn't something he would have said if they were white.

because its apparent you are spouting headlines and dodging the details with things that have been discredited many times.

3 of them are american born citizens, one is a naturalised American citizen. They are all American citizens.

trump's been bitching about America and Obama for years. Send his jew ass back to israel!

The word "exonerate" is the word Mueller uses in the report when he said he couldn't exonerate Trump, and that he would have exonerated Trump if he could. The word "collusion", however, IS an intentional spin by the REPUBLICAN party.

You claim you've read the report, look it up in your example of it.

>and is crossing his fingers to stack a conservative Supreme court before he's out of office.

democrats have stacked the supreme court with people who believe in distorting the constitution as much as they can. This is why they had Scalia assassinated.

He is appointing who he thinks is best for the job, as is his role assigned to him by the structure of our government.

Remember when trump campaigned with the slogan "make America great again" impyling it wasn't great? Remember all the references he made to america being a "third world coutry"? Really sounds like he didn't like it here. He should have gone back to Scotland.

I don’t have a problem with Trump. It’s the rest of the people on both sides who blow shit out of proportion. I am sick of this circus bullshit. I fucking hate every goddamn news channel and every fucking social media site. It’s always the same shit from both sides. United States my ass. I wish there existed a place where I could live out the rest of my life without any of this political crap. Away from people who think they know how we all should live our lives. Just give me a fucking cabin by the lake where I can cultivate my own crops and hunt my own food.

>there is nothing wrong with telling immigrants
Only one is an actual immigrant, who's been a citizen before she was a teenager.
>people who hate our country
They mainly hate the President and his policies, which is their right to do so.

Trump did the equivalent of an old man in Walmart yelling at the brown cashier for denying him a coupon. That's our President.

you can be a citizen and an immigrant. You can identify with hating our country without identifying with the whole tweet.

strawman
hes not jewish
he comes from a stratified american family
????
????
???

This guy has no clue how integral "criticizing your government" is and always has been integral to democracy.

Bro. It was literally on the Second dem debate on NBC. They asked "Show of hands, who supports free healthcare for Illegal immigrants". Pretty much everyone raised their hands.

>Equivalent of go back to africa

Nope. He said they come from countries in bad situations, yet they don't think the US is good enough. So go back, fix what's wrong there, then come back and tell us what worked. His point was if they know so much, they should be able to fix their native countries.

>This is why they had Scalia assassinated.
Yeah being a obese, sedentary italian in his 70's wasn't the cause, it's the same people who could spend 1 billion on an election and lose with their crack murder teams.

exoneration is not something a team like mueller's is allowed to do. His intentional use of this term reveals his true intentions - to hurt Trumps name regardless of the lack of evidence.

mueller could not provide enough evidence to get Trump in legal trouble, which is why he is relying on the pathetic strategy of saying "well,... i couldnt exonerate him".

just today in the hearing he was asked how many times in the past has an investigation exonerated anyone, and he responded 0.

again, stop spouting stupid headlines like a junkie.

thats not actually what was said.

"can a sitting president be indicted for crimes after he leaves office."

Muller : Yes.

This was literally Republicans Vs Democrates, VS Mueller and Mueller won.

Neither side got any closer to what they want this guy to say. at all. Anything anyone is saying "Mueller said" is blowing it up their ass because every answer he gave was ambiguous as fuck and open to even more interpretation.

Example "Can X Be charged with a crime."

news flash. he HAS to say yes, no matter what to that question, because ANYONE can be charged with a crime even without evidence. you do NOT need "probable cause" to be charged with a crime. that's why you go to a magistrate prior to court, to see if there is probable cause to move forward. BUT that doesn't change the fact you were "charged".

and that's the point. these are just word plays and Mueller won. Because everyone's trying to read into this than what it really is. A WASTE OF MY MONEY.

>This meme
Rote learning does not earn you a degree. To get good marks you need to be able to think critically, analyse evidence and draw demonstrable analogues with source materials, and top marks never ever go to work that follows the status quo; challenging that which you are taught legitimately is the number one grade earner.

But you would never understand this, because you literally just believe what /pol/ tells you college is like. Sounds like indoctrination to me.

he wasnt entirely wrong. over at least the past 24 years our country has been heavily in decline.

saying make america great again also acknowledges that it has what it takes to be great and once was great, but was under duress by politicians who have ill intentions

>To get good marks you need to be able to think critically

This is actually extremely false for most college degrees anymore. There are very few areas of study where this is true.
Spouting back to the professor what he had you write in your notes does not require critical thinking skills.

>Nope. He said they come from countries in bad situations
They're all americans, so that's either a lie or Trump's ignorance surfacing again.
Why is it that when offered an opportunity to retort to any criticism, instead of a nuanced take he typically chooses the dumbest, most assholish, and usually completely false thing to say?

Can you actually pull something that wasn't taken out of context from any of these women as equaling hating America and not hating American policies?

Also, 3 of them are citizens born in america. Trump literally said "Go back to your own country" because they were brown. You can try to do the mental gymnastics around this but it was a racist thing to say.

> He said they come from countries in bad situations, yet they don't think the US is good enough
He says that because they're brown. They were all BORN IN AMERICA. There's only one who isn't and she was raised in america as a child.

Also, I'm going by what they've said their platform is in formal one on one setting and on their sites. Not a raise of hands. Just because they're okay with it doesn't mean thats what they're pushing for. Not saying you're wrong on this point but I don't think it's as crazy as you think it is.

>of the lack of evidence.
Address at least 2 of the points of possible obstruction or shut the fuck up.
Literally no one in Right Wing media is doing so, probably because they can't spin it.

This, 100%. I don't know how hard it is for people to look up that these people are born in America. Instead of checking the facts being debated, they're just taking him at face value. Real lazy politics.

22,000,000,000,000.00 deficit.... how did trump fuck up so bad?

>Can you actually pull something that wasn't taken out of context from any of these women as equaling hating America and not hating American policies?

Socialism is in opposition to American culture. People who support socialism almost always slander american history as being particularly oppressive. They typically talk about "white oppressors" and they typically spout disdain for western values - like making a living for yourself and relying on the government for as little as possible, i.e. justice and military defense.

These 4 congresswomen would support the tearing down of historical monuments and statues over some stupid sjw feel-good campaign. They would support discrimination against white people for supposed "fairness" i.e. affirmative action.

They would support labeling republican veterans who literally fought nazis as nazis.

There is no doubt they hate western culture, and the american way of life. They plan on destroying respect for our culture. The only thing they love about america is that it has the money for them to leach off of.

>points of possible obstruction

no.
you stated it was clear damning evidence. a point of "possible obstruction" is not evidence of obstruction. your own wording admits defeat.

you must provide the proof of guilt. Not me provide proof of innocence.

>responding affirmatively to a question in a televised debate does not mean they are in favor of something
>You can try to do the mental gymnastics around this

you seem pretty skilled in mental gymnastics yourself

He admitted to doing sexual things with Monica. Trump has done sexual things with porn stars and prostitutes.

>Why does he choose the dumbest, most assholish and usually completely false thing to say?

Because on one hand you have, what is essentially a meanigless tweet because it doesn't establish anything new the left doesn't already think about Trump. But on the other hand you have Trump ending asylum for Central Americans and the left is too busy with meaningless shit to give a single fuck about it.

All while forcing dems to surround and support AOC who has a 29% favorability rating in swing states and Ilhan Omar who has a fucking 9% favorability rating in swing states. Those two are now the face of the dem party.

Dems got played SO fucking hard and still don't even realize. Two birds. One stone.

Dems were outclassed.

You can’t prove it.

Dems were obstructed.

understatement

Avenatti is going to jail and Stormy Daniels was a member of the NXIVM sex trafficking (including children) cult which Trump's justice department went after.

I wouldnt be surprised if Trump had sex with a pornstar ever, seeing as he has been rich for a long time, but if you are referring to the Stormy case, you are probably wrong.

Common core math was a Dem project...

Do you not have reading comprehension? I literally said the user wasn't wrong. You sure like picking and choosing what you read.

See

and yet Trump is screaming like a little girl...

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you summarized it with "its not as crazy as you think it is". Exactly what part of his statement do you think is in any way false

OH, and lets not forget that Trump has an ALL TIME HIGH favorability rating, even *after* the tweets. Anyone who thinks Trump is an idiot isn't looking at the bigger picture here.

you stating he is screaming does not actually mean he is screaming. Being outspoken with his opinions and thoughts on the matter is not screaming.

You attempt to imply outrage because you have nothing real to go off of.

>you stated it was clear damning evidence
No I didn't. It's the opinion of the Special Counsel that these 10 points are worth further exploration.
> Not me provide proof of innocence.
This is not a trial, we're two assholes on Yea Forums. Look this over and explain to me why this is proper conduct of a President.
The evidence shows that the President was focused on the Russia investigation's implications for his presidency- and, specifically, on dispelling any suggestion that he was under investigation or had links to Russia. In early March, the President attempted to prevent Sessions's recusal, even after being told that Sessions was following DOJ conflict-of-interest rules.
>After Corney publicly confirmed the existence of the FBT's Russia investigation on March 20, 2017, the President was "beside himself' and expressed anger that Corney did not issue a statement correcting any misperception that the President himself was under investigation. The President sought to speak with Acting Attorney General Boente directly and told McGahn to contact Boente to request that Corney make a clarifying statement. The President then asked other intelligence community leaders to make public statements to refute the suggestion that the President had links to Russia, but the leaders told him they could not publicly comment on the investigation. On March 30 and April I I, against the advice of White House advisors who had informed him that any direct contact with the FBI could be perceived as improper interference in an ongoing investigation, the President made personal outreaches to Corney asking him to "lift the cloud" of the Russia investigation by making public the fact that the President was not personally under investigation.

It would seem Trump's primary concern was protecting his image, and not ensure we got the most complete report of possible Russian interference.

Have you seen his tweets lately? Man in unhinged.

>mydumbfaggotblog.com

LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

if the investigation was in fact based on abuse of the FISA court by the democrats, I dont necessarily blame him for using his powers to save his image

Well for one thing it was never anything but a smokescreen by the various fingers of elite jewry to undermine the legitimacy of an outsider who managed to win the presidency.

But I don't get it. Why is he losing his shit if there's zero chance at impeachment?

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I think the Stormy Daniels case only matter for Cohan in regard to violating campaign finance rules. She as a person doesn't matter.
user, you're acting like a crazy person. I don't think that a raise of hands to an extremely nuanced question means someone is 100% for something. What im saying is unless the politician themselves have elaborated on this aspect of free healthcare and how it'll work, I don't think it's something worth discussing until we get closer to wielding down the candidates. This is why I said he's not 100% wrong because there's more discussion to be had.

This is meaningless.
projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/

In the white house? Wayyyy fucking different m8

This

>elite jewry

Whichever one has more money

>has an ALL TIME HIGH
And has yet to breach 50%.
>Anyone who thinks Trump is an idiot
The bigger pitcure is he can only sustain himself via media manipulation and is hopelessly out of his depth regarding actually being President.
Pic related. The gears in his brain produced this twisted ball of gibberish, and do so when pressing on any point beyond what he can soak in superlatives and false dichotomies.

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>Socialism is in opposition to American culture.
lol no

This guy's ass hurts

Creepy Uncle Joe already announced he wouldn't be running bahaha

American history has been oppressive. It's not "slander." Are you saying we should just ignore the bad shit our own people have done in the name of pursuing US Interests?

stay mad faggot lmao

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Quintessential republicans. Blame your failures on dems and your brain dead supporters will believe it.

So you have no actual retort, just more right wing conspiracy theories.
>using his powers to save his image
That is 1000% corrupt intent.

Biden is still polling the highest. What does that say about how popular he is user?

if one of Trump's main intentions going into office is to destroy a corrupt judicial system that let hillary clinton get away with smashing phones and deleting emails, which were under subpoena, and then these same actors involved in that investigation declare they are investigating trump, he cannot achieve justice without looking like he is covering his own ass.

this was the entire point of the "Russia" narrative. This is why Fusion GPS produced the steel dossier.

and no, trump's primary concern was not impeding an investigation that was attempting to give the most thorough picture of Russian interference. The investigation was clearly ignoring all evidence that pointed towards any guilt outside of the Trump team. Mueller lying today that he didnt know what Fusion GPS shows that they aren't intending to give an honest investigation but instead are trying to obstruct Trump's presidency.

This is also why he refused to state when they knew there was no evidence of collusion. They dragged it on way past the midterms when they knew the outcome before the midterms. Its a political strategy of hostile actors in the intelligence agency and the DNC, and even some republicans.

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Which headlines specifically am I quoting?

>exoneration is not something a team like mueller's is allowed to do.
Liar. YOU DIDN'T READ THE REPORT! youtu.be/UfdyiPPin-0
I've marked a few important parts, as you clearly didn't even read the fucking introduction.

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bro. who cares if it's 50%. It's still the highest relative to any other point he's ever been at, which is an accomplishment.

God, the idiocy. You can literally spell out how he played the dems, at least this round, and reality still doesn't sink in. This is exactly why trump is going to win and dems are going to shit their pants all over again like they didn't see it coming.

Caitlyn is literally a trump supporter. YUCK.

That's what you're seeing now, because people like you are too stupid to engage the system appropriately. Your parade unbridled cynicism and ambivalence as wisdom, but you are a fool.

>durr hillary clinton durr

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>critical opinion of collective and disproportionate jewish influence of entertainment, news outlets, government policy shaping
>ILLEGAL OPINION I CANT HEAR THIS GET OUT GET OUT GET OUT

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>I don't think that a raise of hands to an extremely nuanced question means someone is 100% for something.

the prompt was "raise your hand if your government plan would provide coverage for undocumented immigrants"

theres no nuance to that question to be misinterpreted

>is to destroy a corrupt judicial system that let hillary clinton get away
He's done fuck all to go after Hillary or the justice system.
Goddamn where do you MAGAhats come up with these stupid speeches?

>every answer he gave was ambiguous as fuck and open to even more interpretation.
Not if you read the report. All he did was say yes or no on stuff and refer to what's stated in the report. Read the report, and it's clear that there's a lot of evidence the president obstructed justice.

Democrats are fucking retards.

'NUFF SAID!

MAGA 2020!

>Michael Goodwin
Opinion dropped.

When the investigation is illegal, and the intent of the investigation is to hurt someones image, justice would be defending that person's image.

there is no corruption in that.

We are. Socialism’s failures represent the dark ages, and are responsible for the current deficit. What is military industrial complex if not redistribution of wealth?

Well, you're enjoying the country... reaping the benefits.
What makes you feel so absolved of sin?
You're a fuckin hypocrite

He's scared of being revealed as a fraud.

They believed their own propaganda...

>that bullshit pic
WE LIVE IN A SOCIETY!!!111!! CHRISTIANS RISE UP!!!11!!!

>bro. who cares if it's 50%.
Because he wants to take credit for the "greatest economy in our history", yet he's largely unpopular. That doesn't inspire confidence for his 2020 campaign, where he's stealing Bill Clinton's line of "it's the economy, stupid".
And really, he knows economic numbers are the one untarnished thing he can point to, because everything else about his Presidency is a goddamn mess.

Delicious tears...

I have been saying literally for decades that gay acceptance will lead to pederasty and pedophilia, but everyone said I was a crazy consistory theorist.

But we all see the direction this is headed. The next letter in the LGBT alphabet soup will be P.

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>critical opinion
>making racial slurs

LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

They're from here ya idgit

>FAGA NOWNOW

Trump is an idiot who thinks he's smarter than he actually is, but he SOMEHOW makes the Republicans look good so none of them are going to 100% turn on him. Like Trump has shown that the real problem is the American, people. Just look at today's Muller report. Any American can read it, but they'd rather have it explained to them in sound bits. It's why there is some much misinformation being pushed as fact. This might change with the next generation as they get older, but i think it'll only get worst.
Jesus, if that's all it takes for you to think there doesn't need more nuanced discussions on the subject, the ACA must have been the greatest thing ever in the world! OH what, it wasn't? that's because there's a lot of details to talk about when you try to reform a system to be FREE.

>Socialism’s failures represent the dark ages,
Your dumb President is trying to take us into another Dark Ages. Is he a socialist?

There is no legal basis for a President to "protect his image".
>When the investigation is illegal
Why didn't Jeff Sessions or Rothstein share your opinion?

>He's scared of being revealed as a fraud
but if everything's "fake news?"

>Liar. YOU DIDN'T READ THE REPORT

investigations cannot exonerate people. Him saying they dont exonerate him is expected regardless of whether or not he is innocent. He was asked if they had EVER exonerated ANYONE and he said he could think of 0 cases. There was no lie in anything I said and what you posted does not contradict. You are trying to use slight of hand here.

the very first highlight is pants on head retarded and is not damning in any way. They presented no evidence of his guilt, and them saying "just because we can't provide it doesnt mean its not there" is nothing damning.

Do you work for Media Matters or Correct The Record? because the circles you are going in feels awfully familiar.

>the believed Trump obstructed justice
and they were proven right today

Rosenstein was corrupt.
Sessions was forced to recuse himself.

>deliciously sucking criminal mushroom cock

LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

>I have been saying literally for decades that gay acceptance will lead to pederasty and pedophilia

because you in fact are a pedophile with homophobic issues

get help

>largely unpopular
He's literally polling at the same point he was when he was first elected. Bruh, it's about RELATIVE favorability. Stop looking at things in a vacuum.

The dems are batshit crazy trying to decriminalize immigration and give them free healthcare and getting so far drawn into "woke" identity politics that the center is being pushed away. They called fucking Kelsi Gabbard "conservative" because she doesn't want to go to war! wtf?!

The center is either going to vote for Trump or Not vote at all. The dems pushing far left isn't going to get them any more votes because those far lefts would always vote for them anyway. They *need* to be focusing on the center. But won't because they're "Far right" now.

Ancestral country.

>The dems are batshit crazy trying to decriminalize immigration
no we're not

>give them free healthcare
Health care is a right for the entire country. That's the difference between good people and you nazis.

>Jewry is a racial slur

OK well thanks for playing better luck next time sorry about the very low performance brain you ended up growing.

>You are trying to use slight of hand here.
And you're using a logical fallacy here. Just because an investigation HASN'T exonerate people, doesn't mean it can't. Have you sat down and read EVERY investigation? You're fighting for something you can't really prove one way or another.

Yeah, that's why almost everyone at the second Dem debate said they supported that shit after Castro brought it up.

>The dems pushing far left
No policy or candidate in the Democratic Party is "far left" user. That's part of the problem: the propaganda you lap up.

>but he SOMEHOW makes the Republicans look good
Because the republican propaganda machine is largely centered around being confident of stupid idea and having something to fear monger or demonize. They saw Obama attempting to make school lunches healthier as a grossly offensive attack on freedom.
They are subhumans, but also gifted at maintaining and utilizing power, mainly because they don't give a fuck about integrity or ideological consistency.

Yea, it's astounding. They're seriously looking at their position and saying "we need to go FARTHER LEFT"

Not saying Biden is all that strong of a candidate overall. Iffy decision record and all, but I could at least trust he would be fairly competent and really try to do what is right. He'd probably end up like a Ford presidency. A little goofy but more or less neutral in terms of achievements.

Shut up you fucking faggot. Stop threadjacking. We are not talking about Jews, I would literally shove my cock down your throat.

They want to give ILLEGALS free healthcare. I thought that was implied based on what i was saying, but I guess not.

>He's literally polling at the same point he was when he was first elected
Which he got by on 70,000 votes.
So he hasn't expanded his base.
kek.

*Sigh* If that's what it takes to salve your fragile ego sure.

Investigation which has demonstrated actual attempts by Russia to influence the election, which was its primary purpose until guilty conscience Donny made it all about him.
By you, yes. By the population as a whole? Hardly. Even conservative funded polls put public support for democrats ahead.
You do not understand how obstruction charges work. In order to be a meaningful law, obstruction must by necessity be possible regardless of whether guilt in the crime being investigated is ascertained. To wit, if I obstruct an investigation and it is proven that I obstructed that investigation, it is entirely feasible that my obstruction included the burying of evidence that could have secured a guilty verdict. This is why obstruction is a crime in its own right and does not require a guilty result from the investigation to be a valid charge. You are entitled to legally defend yourself. You are not entitled to interfere with the course of an investigation, regardless of your presumed innocence. If I committed no crime, and an officer investigated me as a suspect for a crime I did not commit, and I was in a position to fire the person investigating me and did so, REGARDLESS OF MY INNOCENCE OF THE CRIME BEING INVESTIGATED, I COMMITTED THE CRIME OF OBSTRUCTION.
You are as bad as them, making up bullshit about the party you call the 'enemy'.
>Bill denies it to this day
>As you know, in a deposition in January, I was asked questions about my relationship with Monica Lewinsky. While my answers were legally accurate, I did not volunteer information.
>Indeed, I did have a relationship with Ms. Lewinsky that was not appropriate. In fact, it was wrong. It constituted a critical lapse in judgment and a personal failure on my part for which I am solely and completely responsible.
Wow it's almost like it takes exactly three seconds on Google to prove you stupid.

You said we were "crazy" to support it.
Funny how in any other instance you might support less bureaucracy, but not if it's a brown person crossing the border.

I guess reading comprehension is hard, huh?

I never said there didn't need to be more discussion of a subject to implement legislation.

If you think the ACA was intended to be free healthcare you've done no research at all.

All the candidates on the stage supported coverage for illegal immigrants. How much coverage, what taxes they raise to fund it, specifically what services are covered, all those details are immaterial to supporting the basic idea, which they all did

Far left in the sense that moderate lefts are considered "conservative" now.

You fucking mad?
Try to kiss your anus and tell me how it worked out for ya.

>opposing pedophilia makes you a pedophile, only people who accept sexual degeneracy aren't pedophiles and closeted gays

Do you even think before the words leave your brain?

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>Rosenstein was corrupt.
How so?
>Sessions was forced to recuse himself.
He did so on his own accord, for what seemed to be a perfectly legitimate reason.
Why did Trump try to get him to "unrecuse", in spite of no clear legal basis for him to do so?

That's bullshit. If true Dems would impeach. It's not true so you Dem shills repeat ad nauseum until the sheeple think it's true. Humanity really is too stupid for democracy .

I will answer every retard reply including yours. Jewry is not a racial slur. Would shove your cock down my throat??? I swallow like 8 insects a year in my sleep I won't notice swallowing you either.

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>not wanting to pay for healthcare for illegal immigrants means you are a nazi

this is what the far left actually believes

No, WE want to recognize that health care is a right for everyone.

JESUS CHRIST SHUT UP TROLL

Anything to shut your fat anti-semitic mouth you fucking cretin

A right is something you may not be barred from obtaining, not something taxpayers must provide you with. Cunt.

>If true Dems would impeach
Many do, but their leaders are the same delusional old sacks of shit like Pelosi who think decorum and the "middle ground" should be the political priorities.
It's also because a GOP controlled senate will never ever vote to impeach a Republican president, not even if he was selling crack in the Rose garden.

Fuck yeah . Someone drives right up the middle , no extremes , crack down on illegals, keep abortion legal, cut the debt, government stay out of my personal business , fix healthcare costs , I'm voting for them. Fuck these extremes.

We already have a right to have health care.

if healthcare is a right for everyone, any country with a less advanced medical system than the U.S. is by definition violating civil rights

You are a nazi. Substitute Jews for "illegals."

autism

Google got caught on whistle blower video bragging about how they were going to fix the 'Trump situation' in 2020, anybody who watches anything more than makeup tutorials on Censortube can see the obvious fuckery...
Facecrack doesn't even bother to try and hide it anymore.

He did not just push that the investigation was illegal. Something which, by the way, has not been found to be the case. The dossier was not the only reason the investigation began, and in any case Trump's involvement was not the primary mandate.

Attempting to fire people investigating you is obstruction. That is a crime. People keep saying he was being fired over conflicts of interest, but nobody had pointed any such conflicts out, not been able to explain the discrepancy of attempting to instruct someone who already recused himself over self confessed conflicts to unrecuse himself to take control of the investigation, another obstructive act as his conflict of interests is, per his recusal, documented fact.

You can try and explain it away all you like, there is evidence that Trump actively interfered illegally in an investigation.

>Google got caught on whistle blower video
>Trusting anything Project Veritas releases

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Hypocrisy much?

aspergers

>You are a nazi

I feel like the nazi's did a little bit more to the jews than simply not paying for their healthcare.

I could be wrong though :

I get the conservative view point. "Why should I have to give my money and power to help people to dumb to look out for themselves." It's shitty but I get it.
>I never said there didn't need to be more discussion of a subject to implement legislation.
Screen cap and show where you said a more nuanced discussion should be had anytime after your "All Democrats support free healthcare for illegal immigrates. Because you're trying to move the goal post on this discussion to have some kind of "win" that's irreverent because I said the user wasn't wrong in my FIRST POST. Also you are taking me making fun of you as what I think the ACA is and are intentionally thinking misrepresenting my statement is some kind of counter argument. You're trying to push a narrative that isn't as serious as you're trying to make it. Got called out, and are now acting like it's not a big deal and you weren't being retarded. If the democratic candidates want to expand on what they mean when they said they're support health care for illegal immigrants, we should hear what that means to them, before you make your insane leaps in speculation.

You're not going to shut up anything idiot. You're a preprogrammed moron too stupid to identify jewish control over western governments wired up to say the same weak canned responses whether it's a critical opinion of jewish anything or full blown nazi talk.

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So your real beef is with Pelosi.
Trump feels the same way user.

Try twisting shit around all you like, the facts remains the same. There's a lot of evidence that Trump did commit crimes in ten separate cases, and the only reason Mueller didn't press charges is because Trump is president.

If you think the first highlight was an accusation of crimes, then you're fucking retarded. It explains what you're unwilling to accept.

You've been trying to twist your argument every comment.
>The "exonerate" word is an intentional spin by the democrat party.
>exoneration is not something a team like mueller's is allowed to do. His intentional use of this term reveals his true intentions - to hurt Trumps name regardless of the lack of evidence.
You're clearly a dishonest person, trying to move the goalpost at every turn. First you say the democrats chose the wording to spin the facts, but when that's shot down you squirm and change your claim. Fucking dishonest liar.

And now you're using the first highlight as a strawman to say "this line isn't damning" when it's clearly not meant to be. You can clearly read the text and me explaining it to you is pointless because any adult person with a brain understands what that means in the context of this report. So if you don't understand why it's marked in the first place, there's no use explaining it to you.

love how Yea Forums is the new /pol/ just like it used to be

Yeah? That doesn't really mean much when we do business with countries still practicing sharia law.

Support for impeachment is at 21%

nbcnews.com/politics/meet-the-press/support-impeachment-falls-2020-heats-n1029656

The rich do.

You're in favor of violating some civil rights of your own user.

One party rule is the Dem goal, look at garden spots like Detroit or East St.Louis and realise that that is what they have planned for the whole country...

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>assburgers
you have them

It's fictional...

Same mindset. We can't let the inferior "illegals" have access to any doctors.
Do you realize how delicious it is to hear some of the apologies going on itt? XDXD

I wish I was literally Hitler. He was an hero and did nothing wrong.

My beef is with pussy democrats and republican demagogues. Republicans abuse their power for stupid ideas proven to not work, then scream "HOW DARE YOU TREAT US THIS WAY" at the slightest pushback, then the Democrat oldguard skatter away to not further fuel the conservative victim complex.

not exclusively

Impeachment doesn't mean shit unless you can get a majority of republicans to turn, and they won't because they'd have to admit all the insane shit their leader has done was wrong and would kill a 2020 election.

Irrelevant to whether Trump's actions regarding the investigation were lawful

>idiot
>preprogrammed moron
who bleats "Jews" on command in a thread that HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH JEWS YOU FUCKING TWIT
NOTHING
GO BACK TO POL YOU FUCKING TWERP

>whether it's a critical opinion of jewish anything or full blown nazi
if you are "critical" of Jews you might as well be one, you've come that far

>assburgers
you want fries with that?

careful now, both sides are about to accuse you of supporting the other, while the hyper cucks call you a centrist nazi.

I agree (though I do have a problem with Trump as a person, I'm not letting that shade my evaluation of his actions as president). But I find myself much more critical of the left's bullshit for a few reasons. First and foremost, WE FUCKING LEARNED THESE LESSONS WHEN THE RIGHT COURTED TEAPARTY RETARDS. This is the exact same retarded shit, except with far more moral grand standing. Second, I already wrote off far right media a during Obama's presidency. Left biased media was supposed to be better. Still needed to take some things with a grain of salt, but they were supposed to actually behave like fucking reporters. Jon Stewart used to go on rants when CNN wasn't living up to journalistic standards, now Trevor fucking Noah sucks their dick and thanks them for talking points. And third, because their outlandish claims and outright lies force me to defend Trump when I would rather not.

"No, he didn't pay a fucking Russian hooker to pee on him"

"No, he didn't actually say that"

"No, AOC didn't actually 'own' anyone, the full video shows their rebuttal where she gets embarrassed"

etc. etc.

>Screen cap and show where you said a more nuanced discussion should be had

now who's make insane leaps in speculation?

I said they supported the idea, and you come back with "well that doesn't count because thats a simple question". We're discussing what the candidates support or don't, not the requisite steps to get it properly implemented

Should I sit here and tell you "screen cap for me where you said you don't think trump is a space alien?"

Not gonna happen, pussy faggot.
Feed. Me.

Popular support for impeachment is shit, user.
Shit. Everything isn't reddit

Someday...

You can't. Gotcha.

The rich are the only ones with guaranteed access to health care user. Don't be a faggot about this, I will smoke you.

precisely what are those?

Sounds like you need a fry basket tattoo actually

You're full of shit, just like all the other NPC commie bastards.

See: Trump's Border "Policy"

I don't go on reddit, so

you're right, I definitely can't sit back screen cap that, because you never said it.

Why do you support the crazy notion that trump is from space, anyway?

>NPC commie bastards.
triggered this hard

>thread about the fabricated scandal targeting president who is outsider to the political machine of america
>its got nothing to do with jews
*yawn* nothing to see here are you guys sleepy? lets have a sleep

you should go there
you must go there

holy non-answer batman

but why

Fuck off Hillary would have fired that incompitant ass and you would have cheered. Comey fucked your queen. You should have been happy.

If mueller wanted to charge the president he would
if he wanted to charge any of his family he would
and I base this on the fact that mueller charged trump team members with crimes wholly unrelated to the base investigation like tax shit

it is crazy that a prosecutor is using the language that mueller is using. prosecutors do not exonerate anyone not one at any level
and to top the cherry, which from a republican viewpoint that makes the report strange is that he says "if I could"
Imagine an attorney look into a case and after the investigation ends he says, "well... I can't totally exonerate him"
it gives the impression of presumed guilt

mueller is basically saying he can't say the president is innocent, in essence presuming guilt
which is insane given that he found no evidence on trump colluding or literally anyone else colluding with russia

but he chooses to presume guilt based on precieved obstruction

>americans don't vote for us anymore
>got majority of the votes in 2016
>won the house in 2018
why do conservatives always lie so much?

You want me to wear a fucking tutu as well, faggot?

Trump is pro-Israel. They would not want him out of office.

To be fair the Clinton investigation was about a land deal. Then about Paula Jones, then about Lewinsky. This investigation was entirely about Russia.

OK ANTI SEMITE WELL BUY

Pelosi...middle ground. Kill yourself before you breed.

>talking out of my ass
retarded this hard

You support ICE treating people like animals and putting their kids in cages.
You support violations of civil rights.
But you knew this already and were hoping the finger wasn't pointed at you.

>If mueller wanted to charge the president he would
No he wouldn't. We've established that you can't indict a sitting president. No point.

Someone needs to make you bob for french fries next Halloween

>durr npc dumb buzzwords durr
>spank me

LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

Wrong. It was a republican report that Hillary purchased.

I support ICE enforcing the same laws we've had under many presidents. Arrest for a crime is not a violation of civil rights

Dems are going full Communist, Chamber of Commerce types hate the Trumpian populists, that leaves a lot of people in the mushy middle that could be recruited for an actual centrist party.
2024 might be quite lively...

source: Steve Bannon's fat ass

Do you even have any arguments or do you just fling shitty insults when your feelings get hurt?

Fucking bootlicker lol

You've made no arguments user.

>when your feelings get hurt?
like when someone calls you out for being a nazi when you acted like one in a thread?

Did you drop acid before you watched or are you retarded?

kinda like the "fish sticks" episode, where cartman and jimmy are sitting around trying to come up with a joke and jimmy comes up with:

"hey, do you like fishdicks?"
"yeah, i like fish sticks."
"do you like to put fish dicks in your mouth?"
"yeah."
"what, are you a gay fish?"

and it becomes the #1 joke in the nation, south park should do an episode where everyone ignores the government and all news for a year, finding better things to do, and... it doesn't matter and nothing goes wrong and the only thing that happens is that life is easier and better for them because they ignored all the bullshit.

in 2012, i moved into a new house. it was a ton of work, and i just never bothered to hook up my computer and watched movies on dvd while i set up the house for 2 weeks, at age 35.

i think back to how the world didn't end, no one got upset, i didn't read the news, didn't come to Yea Forums, and... i was probably better off.

>If mueller wanted to charge the president he would
He would have to send those charges to the DOJ, who as a general policy for decades wouldn't indict a sitting President, but more importantly this current one, where the previous AG was fired over "not protecting the President".
The only avenue for Mueller to have any hope of his charges being pursue would be congressional impeachment.

>spank me
>spank me spank me spank me spank me

If Hillary had become the president and tried to fire a person investigating her for a conflict of interest while trying at the same time to get someone with a documented conflict of interest to take charge I would be saying the exact same thing. When she deleted those emails I fucking wept for our democracy when they failed to prosecute for obstruction. But she didn't win the election, which means she isn't as much of a problem as Trump, who is demonstrably obstructing and it looks like he may get away with that, too.

They're all shit, user. It just saddens me seeing tribal morons line you defending one or the other of them.

>no evidence on trump colluding or literally anyone else colluding with russia
That's not 100% accurate. A determination really can't be made because you are correct in there doesn't seem to be solid evidence of Trump working with the Russians, but almost everyone on his campaign staff was found to have done something showing they were colluding with the Russians. So it's bizarre that the POTUS didn't know what his staff was doing. It's kind of hard to believe.

nice argument.

>ad hominem
and now we're back where we started

Mueller admitted Trump had obstructed justice and told Congress to do their jobs.
I was straight user. Yourself?

Donald Trump has mentioned the USS liberty before. He may pay them lip service and even try to please them but make no mistake, he is an outsider and that's exactly where they would rather he be.

Where does it hurt user?

>muh buzzwords r arrgyooments
So you're just going to be a total faggot until this thread 404s

silence nazi

It'll be fun watching Communist factions knifing each other to death...

you are apparently

He's pro-Zionist user. It makes no sense to discuss Jews in a Trump thread.

I say he could because he could just file the paperwork and say he did, provided he had the evidence
if mueller believes that the president is above the law, then he could "recommend" charges
which he should have done if he had the evidence
what are they going to do? fire him?
that fishy smell came with nothing, do or die mother fucker
either trump is an evil genius who is able to coordinate beyond the reach of a special prosecutor or he is an idiot

>durr npc durr hurr
faggot pls go

Obstruction of what?

>no u
god you're a butthurt faggot lol

>either trump is an evil genius who is able to coordinate beyond the reach of a special prosecutor or he is an idiot
You say that like both are mutually exclusive.

Poor man is a nervous wreck, being grilled under oath by clowns while desperately covering ass about the failed Coup...

>which he should have done if he had the evidence
So he should have sent charges to somewhere they had no hope of being enforced? He might as well have asked Trump to prosecute himself, it makes zero sense.

Little does he know of the ticking time bomb in Ivanka's pussy.

damn, bunch of real retards in here

Actually I support them putting them back where they came. I didn't sign any consent to pay for the living costs of brown people, let alone even more brown people.

If that's what you consider nazi then the way things are going you really won't like what comes next. I hope you're good at coming up with entirely new words.

why? did you get triggered again?

>If mueller wanted to charge the president he would
You lied about reading the report. The contradiction to your statement is in the introduction. You didn't even read that.

>and I base this on the fact that mueller charged trump team members with crimes
Because they aren't presidents. USA only has one president. See: >it is crazy that a prosecutor is using the language that mueller is using.
That's because he's an investigator, not the prosecutor. The hearing today wasn't a trial, it was a hearing.

>Imagine an attorney look into a case and after the investigation ends he says, "well... I can't totally exonerate him"
Mueller's role is as an investigator, which is different from an attorney.

>mueller is basically saying he can't say the president is innocent, in essence presuming guilt
which is insane given that he found no evidence on trump colluding or literally anyone else colluding with russia
Now you're just being emotional.

of the Special Consul's investigation, because it made him look bad. He was like a dipshit King trying handwave a displeasing thing.

triggered

Mueller did not level any of those charges. As per the mandate he patted the information acquired during his increasing on to the relevant parsons who levelled charges (e.g. the 'tax shit' as you called it)
>He found no evidence of ... anyone else colluding with Russia
He found evidence that Russia interfered, and that members of the Trump campaign has asked them to do so. Collusion is a bus word that was intentionally avoided and that you are using to imply no comes have been committed in spite of evidence.
>perceived obstruction
He does not presume either way which he expressly stated, obstruction however is not just perceived, it is in evidence.

Political theater...

>Actually I support them putting them back where they came
Some will be. Others are guest workers.
Some are seeking asylum.
Wow. You don't seem to know that this is a complex issue lol

What I consider nazi is the way you reacted when it was pointed out to you that health care is a right for everyone, even border crossers.
And you don't seem to be repentant about that attitude.

Getting rid of lobbyist and 24 hour news cycle would help fix this imo.

Triggered by what? Your stupidity and how you keep posting it?

mommy says trump time is over on the computer now
you have a big day trying to make money mowing lawns or else you're going to have to work fast food

>I called him a nazi again