Man guitarists are obnoxious. I get it, Gibson made a bad move flexing on smaller companies like that

Every guitar has the same sound , most of the "unique" and innovative guitar sounds you hear on records are a direct result of good post processing and production , get a guitar that feels good to play , that is the only thing that matters , the sound is completely manipulated in recording .

kek so what? It's not my only distortion pedal. Sometimes I'm in the mood for it.

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I can read. I also don't take my opinions from other people like a fucking sheep. I can pick up a guitar and play it for myself to decide if it's good or not.

My Gibson is an amazing guitar. Granted, it was made 11 years ago, so things might have changed.

Glad I'm not the only one who knows this. I seriously get sick of the constant tonewood debate. Especially when it comes to shit like fretboard material. If you think that tiny bit of wood makes even a slight difference in the mix, you really should just sterilize yourself.

>Every guitar has the same sound
No they don’t retard
Otherwise, there wouldn’t be so much pick ups brands
Also, the way the piece has been engineered(hollow, semi hollow, solid) and wood choice can affect the outcome of the instrument as a whole

>I can read
Clearly not
Google news about how “well” Gibson is doing nowadays and you’ll see for yourself
That is, if you can stick your head outta your ass
I don’t give a dead moose’s last shit about your 10 years old LP
It’s about what Gibson has been up to for the past years
It has nothing to do with being a sheep you fucking retard, it’s about truth about them fucking up on so many levels, it has been well documented

The differences are minute and minimal , only difference is between acoustic guitars and the electric ones , as the reverberation from the body creates a very slight change in the sound , the string choice , way of strumming and playing affects your sound more then the body and the pick ups , do you even know what a pick up is ? It's a magnet with a coil , and have you ever heard of competition ? People like gibson and fender take advantage of retarded consumers such as you with their "my guitar sounds better then yours" propaganda , when in reality , every single guitar on every single popular song would sound the same if it wasn't for good production , mixing and engineering .

Most guitar players are self centered faggots who suck their own cock and stroke their own ego with that bullshit , thinking they are special , it's simple logic , unless you're playing a completely clean tone of the guitar with no instruments behind you , the difference can not be heard , especialy with modern processing

And you say I can't read... fuck. Again, I'm not saying they haven't made some bad moves, especially recently. I'm talking about the people who shit on all Gibson guitars like they never made a good product or who use that to validate their own fanboy mentality

I actually have been saving up for a while to finally disprove the tonewood myth. I'm going to get three different body types, made of three different woods each. So nine guitars total. The neck will be the same, pickups and wiring the same. I'll have an apparatus that will strum identically between tests.

I'm gonna make a video showing each guitar strumming, and then a series of black screens with "Guitar 1, Guitar 2, etc" and have a poll set up on a separate website to see if anyone can guess correctly.

A guitarist fucked your girl didn't he?

ITT people who dont play the superior bass

...n-no... why do you ask?

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OP here. Peep the rickenbacker, my guy.

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Being someone who used to play guitar as their main instrument, i agree. I think its the fact that guitars sound cool and are easy to learn, makes people who don't know shit about music think theyre goddamn experts or something. You can't casually talk about guitar with an average player because they're all arrogant retards.

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Also you're 100% wrong about the sound of guitars. Your ear just isn't refined enough to hear the difference. You don't know why a song sounds good; we do.

That's a matter of opinion. You're literally the guy OP is complaining about.

>makes people who don't know shit about music think theyre goddamn experts or something

This. They know like two scales, a handfull of chords, yet they can hear the difference between a rosewood fretboard and a maple one. It's ridiculous.

I've got an Epi Lp studio and I've adjusted it to my liking. I don't think I'll ever get a Gibson or something unless I really liked it. Maybe an Epi Dot or 335 would be a viable choice.
It's not just about the price but how they feel and stuff too. I've played other Epiphones that were garbage but felt that they were less bad on average when compared to Gibsons. Atleast for me, back in 2015.
I'm in an alternative rock band. And the Epi can handle everything from heavy metal to soft country-like stuff.
And it's not just guitarists, rock and metal musicians are fucking manchild retards. Irresponsible, never showing up on time and just utter cringey fucks.
I've played with so many bands but I honestly can't handle rock and metal musicians. Punks are even worse.
It feels better to hang out with a rapper than to with a singer or something from a rock band.
My drummer is pretty cool though. But he's a rare case.

Fat necked bastards.

This is a strat I modded.
After=left
Before=right

I fucked up the paint job but I'm really happy with how it turned out.

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>90% of the sound - Player
>5% of the sound - Post processing
>4% of the sound - Pickups/Amp/Settings
>0.9% of the sound - Microphone placement
>

This x10000000000

i like it like that

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Producer checking in here, that's not entirely true. Every guitar sounds different, I have a fender strat and an '82 Gibson explorer and they're worlds different. It depends mostly on what kind of pickups you use and how the innards of the guitar process the audio signal, woods and shit don't matter hardly at all.

But I get what you're saying, if you process the recording enough it doesn't matter as much what guitar you have, but most recordings aren't SUPER processed, the ones that are are very obvious for example Come As You Are by Nirvana vs. Somewhere I Belong by Linkin Park. You can probably emulate Nirvana's sound in that track if you effect it right, Linkin Park's is more dependent on what pickups you're using, it's less processed so it's harder to emulate.

Japanese fenders are better

Just starting shit for no fucking reason, fuck you OP and fuck all of you who fell for the bait. God how much more pointless can you get past guitar brands. Go to Yea Forums or literally any music forum that exists on the internet.

>somewhere I belong

Had to look up the video to get a reminder of the guitar tone in that song. Forgot about those fucking SEXY prs guitars.

There's literally no difference. The string touches the fret and the vibration is picked up with magnetic pickups. The quality of wood doesn't even come into play unless you're talking acoustic, even then the fret board wood doesn't matter because the sound is reverberating in the body, and the difference is insanely miniscule.

OP here. It's not bait, retard. Go fuck yourself, I can have whatever opinion I want.

Thats the most punk ass way of losing an argument lol if you were just shitposting and trolling you'd just keep going and walk away when you're done pussy.

You're song wrong it's not funny. You think David Gilmour's solos would sound just as good if he played them on Peavey Raptor through a Line 6 Spider? Get real Mr. I've picked up a guitar once or twice in the last 11 years.

I don't agree with him completely but yeah they probably would.

Nah, like I said, there'd be about a 5% difference. It would still sound great, just not perfect.

My opinion is superior to you all I play a Dean after all.

inb4 Dimebag fanboy.

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My 7 and my main bass.

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>dimebag fanboy

Kek those headless guitars and basses look so dopey they make me chuckle every time I see one

In the early 1980's VH shared a stage with Ted Nugent. Ted heard EVH during soundcheck after his set was over and tells EVH "Where's the black box?" EVH replied "There's no such thing." Ted asked to play his guitar and sounded completely different, he sounded like himself playing a strat with a humbucker. So he gave the guitar back and insisted he was using something secret he wasn't telling him about.

If you hand David Gilmour anything, he would still sound like David Gilmour. The other guy wasn't implying that the gear doesn't matter, you're just up your own ass.

Yikes. The only explanation for this ignorance is if you've only played very cheap or very expensive guitars. Go ahead and ask a recording engineer if all guitars pretty much sound the same. Watch him laugh in your fucking face.

Headless guitars are actually really nice and ergonomic. I’ve always wanted a Carvin Holdsworth model

That's a cute story and all, one of those "look how cool and relatable musicians are" but it doesn't mean shit.

I AM a recording engineer, an employed one, pal lol. They're not all the same but the players talent is the most important aspect.

My old pedal board but I sold it all for a Helix

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There's my collection you dumb piece of shit. $300 on the low end, $2,000 on the high end. I also have one of those cheapo starcasters, and a first-act.

I also dabble in audio engineering, for the record. I'm no expert, but I can get the job done. You're just a stuck up cunt.

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Best tuning stability I've ever had on a bass, I want to get a headless guitar but I already have my gibby sg so that'll eventually be headless anyways

Been hearing great things about those bad boys. What do you think? Worth it?

That limited edition Julia tho

Is the 7 a Schecter? I can't quite tell. Looks like a similar headstock, but backwards compared to the one I have

As a fellow producer I agree. Try to use the gear that'll help get the sound you want but at the end of the day it's going to sound like it's within the ballpark whether you use a Taiwanese strat or an American made Gibson Les paul.

100%. I had a pretty big hobby of constantly selling, buying, and trading pedals and was never truly happy with what I had. Literally everything is very high quality. Only thing that isn’t great is the polyphonic tracking for pitch shifting and synth filters.

Not a bad spread at all, any mods done to anything or pretty much stock?

Honestly I got it for a great trade for a Fairfield Circuitry Shallow Water and like $40. I think the Julia is one of the better choruses on the market in terms of pedals

Yeah, KM-7 MKII the version with the Duncan Nazgul/Sentient combo. Fucking love that guitar, great neck feel, compound radius, and stainless steel frets make for a very smooth playing experience.

i wish one day i can save up enough to buy a telecaster that sounds alright

All stock. But I plan on swapping out the Schecter's pickups. Not that they're bad, but I got enough humbuckers, I want something with active pickups.

I also had a LP Studio with some SD pearly gates in it, but I sold it.

Exactly. Nothing worse than a musician who insists that he needs to haul in his unreasonably large amp to record a simple rhythm section.

>but MUH TONES

i don't know you but i fucking love you
Holdsworth is such a criminally underrated guitarist

Not bad at all, I enjoy the Walrus stuff, picked up the voyager edition ARP-87 and I dig it immensely. This is the most recent setup of my board, currently rebuilding since I picked up a late 80's rat and need to find a spot for it.

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Definitely the greatest of all time.

Bonus photo I made a few weeks ago

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So we're at the lying portion of the conversation, cool cool.

Might have to give it a shot. I like having pedals, but it's a pain plugging everything in, and making sure you have them all in the right order. I've wanted an all in one for a while, but they're treacherous.

Nice signal path. What do you play? Also never got to try a Satan

Cool picture from fb.

>stuck up

I guess if that's what you call being able to hear, sure.

Any real producer (including me) will tell you that the guitar signal is independant on the quality of the guitar , have you ever done any production ? Clean guitar sound is shit unless you run in through good equipment , it's as simple as that , yes the tone may vary dependent on the pickups and if the body is acoustic , but those differences make no sense , the bullshit you say about "hearing a difference" doesn't stand anymore in modern times you fucking boomer ,go ahead, take an analyzer , run the signal through it , take a pic and prove me wrong , ears are easily manipulated by many factors , signal analyzer doesn't lie however, you can take the shittiest guitar sound in the world , apply very good eq and compression , distortion , reverb and delay and it will sound like the best guitar you ever heard , it's all about the eq , mid side eq , stereo control and multiband compression , if you don't get those things right in your mix it doesn't matter if your guitar was made by Les Paul himself !

Nice. It looks great too. I've had a great experience with Schecter, I might have to get one or two more.

It's impossible for a producer to lurk on Yea Forums's most popular board and find a thread pertaining to music and acoustics that he wants to contribute to?

You might like the Helix Effects more so than the full Helix. It’s designed with all the algorithms of the Helix but without the cab and amp sims. It’s made for players who prefer a standard pedal board and want to run into their amp and cab. That’s what I’ve got running into my H&K Tubemeister 18w and it’s amazing

>single coil pickups sound identical to humbucker
wew we got a live one. I feel bad for anyone whose album you've produced

F
I still can't believe that he's gone
Steve Vai lent him a good chunk of money to put out another album that he unfortunately never did put out
I remember a few years ago he did release some new stuff with Virgil Donati called ''Earth'' i think
on Pledge or some shit where you had to donate to get access to the releases
has any of it been released?

Stop trying to compensate for your lack of talent by buying expensive guitars and start practicing more you filthy neckbeard autists

The fishman fluence Satchel Set sounded damn good when I tried them out, not usually huge on active pickups but those were surprising.

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Not the op but Fluences are really cool because they are designed to not sound like active pickups. I think it’s the tone of passive with how dynamic they are and lack of compression. I don’t know much about them but I got interested after I saw Tosin Abasi using them because his clean tones are super glassy

No, just everything you've said leads me to believe you're lying. Fine though, I'll play along. Where do you work? Examples of your work?

The difference is inaudible in a mix anyways , the "warmth" of a guitar you hear is due to the filters applied, doesn't matter if the filtering is done in the pickups by fusing together 2 pickups or by an eq , actualy it's much easier , better and cost efficient to do it in post processing then to rely on that kind of technology . I'm stating facts here , production and processing is 90% of the guitar sound , not the guitar body or the pickups itself , i'm right until you prove me wrong maggot .

I’m not too sure but my professor would probably know more about than me. He got me into Holdsworth my first semester

I play weird shit for myself mainly. Usually big ol' fatassed doom riffs drowning in octave, fuzz, and phase. Beyond that just wanky tappy shit with jazzy™ chords and tech death. It's built for guitar/bass/upright bass. I really want to get a second board for my bass stuff only. And boiiii get you a Hail Satan, my Hail Cannabis is my favorite fuzz I've ever had and the Dunn Effects Shoggoth that's next to it is also an absolute whale of anger.

I can go take a picture with timestamp if you want proof, you colossal faggot.

That sounds like exactly what I'm looking for. I really dig my amp, so I'd like to keep the sound it puts out.

kek

Ahh fuck off.

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Fellow producer here, the pickups matter a good amount but they're also the first step in the processing sequence, they can be corrected to sound like different pickups but you can only correct it so much. All in all you're going to get within the ballpark of the sound you want

Also stop being so aggressive, you sound like a rookie.

Not a big fan of the Fluence Modern, still sound very much like an active, the Tosin set is glassy as fuck though, I think the modern is too "everyman" for me, but when they do artist versions they tend to tweak more in directions I prefer. I'm currently cheesing on the Bareknuckles I have in my 8 string, the sheer fucking clarity of these things is a sound to behold. Got a Nailbomb in the bridge and a Miracle Man in the neck and wew lad its enjoyable.

I'm not saying you can't make a guitar sound like anything you want with post-processing. That's undeniably true. Recording technology has come a long way since the 70s, what I'm saying is that the raw sound is noticeably different between a cheap and expensive guitar, so sure you can do studio magic to make a shitty guitar/amp combo sound great but if you're playing live, not so much.

damn dude, i've been into him for years
i still am discovering hidden gems tho
i like the fact that if you really wanna get into the man, you have to look as far as you can into all the contributions he's done aside from his solo albums to get a good understanding of how godlike he is
i fucking wish to have a fraction of his ''sound'' but because of a wrist injury, i'll never be able to pull of those clean ass blistering fast legato and those spread chord voicings he does
also, i currently have a Jackson JS22-7 so i can't pull any of his whammy tricks and it really pisses me off

So your "studio" is actually your bedroom. In that case I'm an audio engineer too kek.

Op please delete this post, it's turned into another garbage shit fest of retarded guitarists thinking they're smart.

Anyone getting angry in this thread disgraces the poor instrument.

I bought mine basically brand new for like $490 on Reverb because they used the unit for promotional material so there was an open box sale on it. Used ones in great condition typically go for like $450 so that’s a great price if you sold like 5 lower end pedals or like 2 higher end like Chase Bliss, Meris, Strymon, etc. the quality of the Helix is just insane too. I’m using a few different presets right now for different genres but the Klon emulation is really rich and harmonic which surprises me because I’ve never liked the Klon sound. The higher gains stuff for prog metal and stuff is equally quality. The thing is basically dead simple to use once you get the hang of it. I think it took my an accumulative 5 hours to basically learn it inside out (which I spent from opening the boxes and couple cups of coffee)

Stay mad faggot.

The Bare Knuckle Impulse set is definitely on my list for pups to run through

JS22-7 is a damn good starter 7 for sure, that's what I went with over a sterling JP-70 I was looking at, at $300 less the JS22-7 out performed the JP in every fucking way, I was floored by the quality of the one I picked up and bought the bastard right off the wall. Even the pickups are halfway decent, shocked me for how cheap that thing is.

Nah, the stuck up losers got put in their place. I think most of us in this thread agree that being a gear snob is a shitty thing.

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it's my 3rd 7strings, 8th guitar overall
and my only one atm cause i had to get rid of every guitars i ever owned
but yeah, for a 300$ 7strings, it really fucking blows the other RG7321 and RG7421 i had out of the water
also lol at the fact that you prefered it over a JP music man, that really says alot about it

>$490

That's not bad at all. I do definitely want to try it out first though. Gotta find a shop with a display model. Guitar center has really gone down the shitter these days, they only have one pedalboard with four or five boss pedals anymore.

Lol I did most of the place putting, I'm like half of this thread

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His sound is actually easier to get than people think because his reverb sound was the result of stacking like 6 Lexicons into each other at 50ms a piece apart. Also saturated with some stereo chorus and a bridge pickup with some tone rolled off or neck pickups.

His use of interval based scales allowed him to created a world of harmony where it was the only fitting place to express the sounds his head. Interestingly enough he never wanted to play guitar and picked it up on his twenties and gained that ability to play. His best solo of all time in my opinion is Tokyo Dream on Wardenclyffe Tower. The nuances over the non diatonic is just mind blowing

Well shit, thanks for helping out.

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Man, maybe I'm unlucky, but I've had two Ibanez guitars. One was a cheap electric which sucked and the other was a $600 acoustic which came broken. The neck was set wrong at the factory. My dad bought it for me online for Christmas and the action and intonation have been terrible but I couldn't tell him because he spent so much to try to make me happy.

Not a proper music man, but a sterling. If I remember it was 550 compared to the 200 I paid for the JS22-7, but my buddy had a Ball Family Reserve JP 7 string and while it was nice, it didn't feel nearly as good as my schecter KM-7 MK-II

My main guitar right now is an Ibanez Prestige RG652AHM and it’s amazing quality. Sometimes the lower end models aren’t that great but the higher end Japanese stuff is close to perfect. I still have my S521 and that thing is still amazing to play and it’s Indonesian.

Controversial opinion

Fred Durst is the best guitarist of his generation

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>calling a fact an opinion

>had to get rid of every guitar i ever owned

Painful just reading that. Why?

>His sound is actually easier to get than people think
that's not what i meant by his ''sound''
>His use of interval based scales allowed him to created a world of harmony where it was the only fitting place to express the sounds his head
That's more what i'm trying to wrap my head around, i know all 7 modes of the major/minor scales by heart, know all modes of harmonic and melodic minor, know the half/whole whole/half tone scale, whole tone scale and a plethora of shit
but his selection of notes, his approach to outside playing is what really fucks with my brain to even be able to pull off
the thing is i'm brainy about the way i play, shit needs to make sense for me to be able to use it and as far as applying the right scales over the right chords/intervals of notes, i got it down
but for anything regarding outside playing, i fucking suck ass and it pisses me off
>Interestingly enough he never wanted to play guitar and picked it up on his twenties and gained that ability to play
Actually he did pick it up at an early age because his dad couldn't afford a horn and that's what he wanted to play at first... he did play the violin tho, i know his entire story
>His best solo of all time in my opinion is Tokyo Dream on Wardenclyffe Tower. The nuances over the non diatonic is just mind blowing
I mean, we could argue for days about what is his best solo but i think it's a subjective thing because for me, even tho i have a shitload of favorite solos of his, nothing comes close to the first one i ever heard of him - Desert Girl by Planet X
That shit gave/still gives me shivers to the brain

man, i envy you, Keith Merrow's models seems to sound really fucking good and i hope they play as well as they sound
i would definetely love to own one
but i'd have to get a Strandberg first
been wanting one since before the craze about them

PAUL.
REED.
SMITH.

Any other answer is fucking idiotic.

btw, i own Wardenclyffe Tower and Tokyo Dream isn't in the track listings nor is it on the cd
dafuq?

Had a chance to play a Boden 8 and the new Boden 5 bass, it made me want a Strandberg badly. That endura neck profile is so natural feeling and fuck is it comfortable to hold and play. Fantastic instruments, definitely a good goal to work towards.

Gibson isn't bad, they have some really nice guitars. That being said they are still not free of criticism and have some outrageous prices for mid-upper mid tier guitars.

yeah, i have some wrist issues and that teardrop neck design would definetely unlock alot of things playingwise
but in all honesty tho i fucking love how they look, also been a fan of headless guitars since i first saw Holdsworth with one
thing is i don't have several grands atm to put on a guitar so i'll have to wait a while before ever getting my hands on one

>Desert Girl by Planet X

Googled the song. Man, why does music like that not click for my brain? I feel like I'm lacking something, a lot of prog stuff just doesn't do it for me. Meanwhile, simple catchy riffs do.

Bums me out.

youtu.be/WDP3yBx-kxk

That's about as prog as I can go.

bro thats fuckin metal as fuck bro, nice tone

Agreed, I would like to see their prices come down quite a bit. $1000-$1300 for an LP standard would be a much better deal.

It’s all about catching the groove of the odd time signatures. Also a lot of super complicated music like prog has intervals that you just aren’t use to hearing so it’s gotta get acquired

I believe the wood effects the tone but nowhere near as much as people think it does.

>why does music like that not click for my brain?
as cliche as that might sound, i think it has to do with how open minded you are
that's one of the first prog metal songs i've heard when i was 16 and i'm turning 28 this Saturday
i grew up listening to classic rock, prog rock, metal, heavy metal, got into death around 14 and down the road i settled with fusion, prog and some tech death metal as my main fav genres

i'd say that developing an ear to details also comes into place
i don't wanna sound pretentious but you really have to pay attention to the music

exactly. I run that shit into the "Insane" setting on my line 6 spider 3

I generally hate anything gold colored, but this looks pretty good to me, user.

Gibson's are bad. Overweight, short scale mush machines with bad quality for the price

But hurr durrr they are so pretty

Wood 100% affects clean tones.

If you use gobs of distortion you may as well use a plywood guitar

This is pretty accurate. Prog is definitely very precise and it’s easy to write off at first listen based off how overwhelming it is

>Implying great production isn't possible if you dedicate a room in your house to it

Well that's the thing, the rhythm I can keep up with. For me, the odd part is the chords and scales. They sound "ugly" to me. Odd. But you're probably right about me just not being used to it.

I like to think I'm open minded. I always listen to songs all the way through, even if I'm not enjoying it. Just to see if I catch a vibe at some point. There's just a breaking point for me. I can deal with a little weird, but at a certain point, I lose it. I feel like I gotta work my way up.

Avant-garde is just totally beyond me though.

Fair enough, yeah.

I can't bitch too much. The action on my acoustic has toughened me up. It just sounds yummy unless it's plugged in. I've had similar problems with anything made by Samsung, which people swear by. Certain brands and I just clash for some reason.

My Kiesel Zeus bass is the shit, love the balanced feel of the headless. And honestly you can probably find a used carvin holdsworth model under a grand, and beyond that Kiesel has a 20% deposit option and then you pay the rest when it ships, so definitely a cool way to get something nice without chunking down everything at once.

seriously tho, like anything else in life, start out slow and it will eventually catch up onto you
everytime you hear a new prog song, try to listen to it as much as you can
each first listens, try to focus on one instrument
then when you can finally be able to put everything into place, you'll start to notice the subharmonics and all the subtleties that the whole creates
all memes aside, prog metal isn't one of the more brainy genres for nothing
the music is usually intelligently and deliberately designed
>inb4 Rick and Morty copypasta
i hate to have to say it but it really takes brains to both appreciate and compose great prog songs

Eat my log

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Shit it autocorrected to yummy. I meant to say the shit sounds *tinny

I LOL at every Gibson PR disaster. Like the time their CEO tried to smash an SG (a most beloved model) while trying hype the Firebird X...

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This hit me right where it hurts. God, I miss having a father.

I feel you Yea Forumsro. I can't sell it now because he's gone.

Also, it's only worth ~$45, even though it's "mint"

Man, they need to fix that neck relief angle already. The guitars will still look great, and they won't get issues like that.

Although the neck snapping is much less common than some people would have you believe. Still, it shouldn't be a problem at all.

that's not what i mean about the open minded bit but if you don't really listen to much prog and aren't into more advanced forms of music both in theory and playing/hearing, it will most likely sound like some abstract art to you because like another user has mentioned, your ear has been trained to perceive a limited range of tonalities/rhythm ideas to be the norm

i really don't know how to put it more simple as to not come across as pretentious or ''i'm better than you''
i guess that prog is kinda like Jazz in this vein
like, you have to ''get it''
it's not easy to describe it and the whole ''odd time signatures and unconventional harmonies, etc...'' doesn't give it justice even if it does describe it

Gibson Fireturd X!

An expensive guitar-shaped computer that nobody wanted!

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you sire, are retarded... LOL

Guitar makers are going through hard times because millennials abandoned rock music for Taylor Swift.

Gibson haven't been shit since 1986 when that kike Henry Juszkiewicz bought them and drove the company straight into bankruptcy.

Meanwhile, Fender makes guitars like the Telecaster, that are fucking indestructible, and modify-able by the player, for working guitarists

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but she's the greatest guitarist of her generation

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BULLLLSSHIIIITTTTT

stick your head outta your ass
you seem to forget that aside from big brands, there are a shitload of independent brands and luthiers worldwide
i think that people are starting to buy more of the smaller names than Fenders and Gibsons combined if anything

based, this

No, I get it. I'm just not sure how to get to the point of really getting it. Songs like that one I posted are some of my favorites, because they're not just typical radio 4-chord stuff. I don't mind a challenge, I just don't know where to go from where I am.

STEEEWWWWPPPIIIIDDDD LOLOLOL

Check out Animals As Leaders and start with the album Joy of Motion. I thinks a good start would be the song Another Year. Pretty good intro into that style of music with a lot of familiarity.

I was just thinking about getting a tele. I love the shrill sound. I doubt it'll top my LP for my favorite, but I like variety.

fuck yeah bro thats beast

you going to the BVB concert?

>Animals As Leaders

That's perfect! I've actually been wanting to look into them for some time now. I've heard a few things from Tosin Abasi, and really dug it. Thanks user.

i first got into Meshuggah and Planet X as a start
then i started following/listening to independent musicians in the jazz fusion sphere
which led to more prog metal down the road
it's a thing you have to discover for yourself and even tho there's a shitload of prog out there, prog isn't like any other genres that all the songs sounds the same because of the underlying characteristics of the genre
there is a shitload of good prog aswell as shitty prog

Psh, fuck that new age shit. I like classic hardcore metal like Papa Roach and Godsmack

Physical Education is also a great song for getting into them. Tosin is an absolute beast on guitar and his playing is as true as progressive guitar gets. Enjoy the tunes!

Ayyy I fucking love Animals as Leaders, love my JR-608 too

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Okay, Meshuggah. Another one I've been meaning to look into. I've only heard Bleed, but it was fucking sick. so I'm totally open to more.

Maybe YouTube will give me some recommendations after I start listening to more.

>2007
Picture is ancient. All she does now is sing and since she put on weight shake her ass on stage.

Yeah man, his finger picking/slap work is mind-bending.

fuck yeah dude I love papa roach. godsmack rules

Lmfaooooo killll Yourself if you think For second that your faggot Gibson plugged into your trusty marshal stack is literally the laughing stock of your friend group. It’s over man. Gibson sound is so outdated literally everyone is rolling their eyes into eternity each and every time you pull a faggy bend and stare off into the distance pretending your slash. You are trash.

ObZen is one of my favorites of theirs. I think it may have the beefiest tone ive ever heard

Wow you guys literally have the worst taste in music.

Papa roach is literally textbook 90s definition of gay.

Their signatures are badass. The new Abasi Larada models are really interesting. Although Tosin’s Ibanez TAM100 is a holy grail of signatures

I'm pretty sure they're being ironic user.

He studied victor wooten for his thumping technique which is a great example of borrowing and learning from other instruments. Truly a great time for guitar players

No bullshit they used a Line 6 Vetta II to record guitars for that album, and yeah the tone is crushing.

Yep. I'm a professional musician and I honestly think the guitar is the least impactful part of gear in the chain. As long as it feels good to play and doesn't have severe technical issues like dead notes, I would have zero problems recording a hit album with a b-brand beginner guitar. The whole snobbery about guitar brands is absolutely hilarious to me, and I always assume that if someone argues about that, they aren't very good at the instrument yet.

Amps and especially cabs are what really makes our breaks a tone.

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I've been baiting this whole thread. lol

To be fair that line wasn’t terrible. Line 6 definitely nailed it with the Helix though. I think Thrice used to use Vetta amps as well

korg preamp, rocktron hush noise gate, furman pq4, mxr doubler/flanger, randall century 200 head, hesu demon 4x12 cab

He actually got it from Evan Brewer which did study with the Victor Wooten

that's pretty sweet. I heard Catch Thirty-Three used the default amp sim settings from whatever the DAW they used was

>noise gate

Man I still have never messed with one of those. Will it help clean up the little noises from lightly brushing a string or sliding? Or do I just have to fix that with better playing?

Hand lotion.

Not a pro gearhead but i think it’s mostly used to remove the static noise

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The Vetta II is an old ass digital modeler that most people would make fun of today. There were no cabs, no mics, all direct. They've also pretty much always used their signature ibanez guitars to record in the studio for the more recent years. Crazy Swedish bastards.

It depends on how you want it to work. Light gates will block of that noise from single coils or transitions between chords without making a lot noise. Hard gates will completely kill the sound once it gets below the threshold which is why people use it for chugging and such

>use it for chugging and such

That's what I was hoping for. I gotta get one. Any affordable ones you can recommend?

The MXR M135 Smart Gate isn’t pretty good and can be found for around $80 used. I had one for awhile and it’s pretty good and god damn well built

IS pretty good. Typo from mobile use

Just listened to a demo, sounds exactly like what I was looking for. I like to play with really high gain, and it just results in a ton of annoying noise, but that sounded perfect. Thanks user.

This thread did better than I thought it would. Couple of dickheads, but mostly good positive vibes.

Good on ya Yea Forums!

Get your djont on

Agreed. Easily the best conversation I’ve had on this board and I came out from the lurking shadows to get some nice conversation started too

Dj0nt*

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This reads like how a ring mod sounds

>like a ring mod sounds
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what do you think of this chord progression ?
Em C Am D

Pretty basic but would sound really cool with some extensions in the chords

sounds like you've been playing guitar for a week

>Ibanez

lul

Japan Ibanez is great

*was

Post your rig with time stamp

Bunch of power scrubs , this is more then what a person could wish for in a guitar

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Schecter BlackJack SLS Hell's Gate Solo, best guitar Ive owned . Maybe not the best I've played but it gets pretty damn close

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You have been visited by Laura the Riveter.

Come on anons, you c-can do it! D-don't let the thread die now!

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I can't tell if you're being serious. How many guitars have you played? Of course electric guitars sound different from one another. I don't even know where to begin on that ridiculous idea. Innovative guitar sounds can come from processing. But they can also come from playing style, effects, amplification, pre-amps, etc.. And as I'm not spending my life recording albums, I want guitars that provide the tones I want for the enjoyment of playing live or in my home. I'm not convinced you really play guitar.

Are you suggesting all pickups sound the same?

Gibsons are decent. I still prefer my PRS and Mayones to Gibsons.

However, an AAAA blue quilted maple LP Custom is on my wish list for someday. Wouldn’t be wise to drop $7k on one right now

Gibson as a company is a mixed bag. The FBI raid was bullshit. Gibson is a generally-conservative company unlike most guitar companies. But, they suck at PR. Their entire platform is “we’re Gibson and we used to be awesome so buy our shit.”

The problem is they are fucking heavy. They do play well.

Fuck Gibson. Solar Guitars all the way!

solar-guitars.com/

Eh. I'll stick with my Martin & Co. DRS2. Y'all can argue Gibson vs Fender while I'm over here drinking whiskey and playing acoustic.

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Bro, I can leave my fender formonths and when i come back to it, its still in tune.
My Lp is a little worse at keeping tuning but both of my guitars sound better then any Ibanez or Jackson I've ever played. (not to say they are bad either)

Yes they are overpriced, but they are better even if it's not the price point amount better.

I got both of mine at really good prices and I haven't been disappointed.

The biggest thing you have to know, is how to set up the guitar properly. (as in do research.)

>70% Player
>10% Pickups
>10% Post processing
>5% Mic Placement

An acoustic, semi acoustic and hard bodied will have a bigger effect than any wood change.

>source: Guitarist for 15 years

Where’s the remaining 5%?
Blow it outta your ass

Yeah, it's all about female guitarists nowadays.

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I understand the appeal of a Les Paul ( I like SGs more) but I can't support Gibson's ridiculous pricing. I choose Fender guitars because they are the most bang for your buck guitars, and mostly have great quality and sound. But I've played Gibson and Fender guitars a lot, personally the Les Paul feels uncomfortable to hold and play, I just like the feel for my Stratocaster more.

Guitar thread on Yea Forums. This will go well.

fair, I edited one of them and got side tracked

>15% Pickups

There's a reason Gibson can flex like they do. Their products are the best. It's like trying to compare a Lamborghini to a minivan.

>inb4 hurr u wrong cause my feelings

based. every player i meet with a headless instrument is uppity as fuck and worships their own beard

>differences are minute and minimal
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the very fact that you slapped a sticker on a revstar tells me you're a lover of sloppy dongs

My buddy knows like three riffs and maybe five chords but his dad is a classic rock guitarist, cool dude and the stones is his shit. His father gave him this beautiful metallic red jap frat and I want it more than any other guitar in the world but he’ll never sell it cause it’s his father’s