Can someone tell me why my boyfriend jerks off when we’re together? and gets upset when i offer him a fuck...

this is a symptom of you having ass cancer. go see a doctor.

the least appealing person on the internet

i really have, maybe even pressed a little too much about it. he doesnt even want to jerk off around me, we’ve talked about it multiple times and its just kinda ended with us pissed off at each other. he says he completely disconnects it from sex and its his private time with himself and porn and his nut and whatever, whenever he asked ive offered to hold him or how happy id be to just sit under him with my face ready but its just not his thing :(

Find a new bf...yours is gay.

Then he shouldn't say no to a blowjob instead

Your bf is an absolute legend
I wish him the best

A.) He watches too much porn and cant maintain an erection.
B.) Your pussy stinks.

i’ve actually had to ask him to stop watching so much porn because he came to me saying how hard it had become to want to fuck after a week of jerking of multiple times a day every day. im fucking jealous of these dumb ass anime bitches and milfs. im so fucking horny all the time and im desperate for the fucking CONNECTION i used to feel while we fucked, now it just seems like a chore to him and it breaks my heart. the last two times we fucked were once while we were both shitfaced and the other i was woken up by him cumming inside of me. bruh im fucking losing it

If you like him, follow him into the restroom and without words expose your breasts, get down on your knees, and offer your mouth.
If he doesn't want that he is an major faggot.

He has nothing to get him off

then let the man jerk off in peace. jeez. what more do you need, woman? he's already told you what's up, and we've confirmed it. it's purely a biological need like taking a shit. doesn't mean anything. as long as you guys still have sex with each other, it's fine. if you don't have sex anymore, it's probably because you won't do that one thing he keeps asking you to do.

i get the feeling you maybe too clingy, and take everything personal. best you can do is let the man have his private time, and he'll come back to you when he's ready.

How often do you guys have sex? If it is less than 3 times a week then there is a problem. Especially if the rate has been decreasing since you first got together.
Have you let yourself go?
Or maybe he is addicted to porn

>when I was married to my second wife
kek
ur a loser bro.
probably a faggot.
I just tell my wife "I'm horny suck my cock and drink my cum"
Gets her wet and gets me off.
I got a Latina though so idk how you do it with whites.

Tits or GTFO
Do newfags not even bother learning the rules anymore? Don't give a random thot your time around here.

thank you, needed this. the last thing i want to do is get to be too much and hearing it from a stranger helps. recently went through shit thats turned up my paranoia and i just feel awful and embarrassed. i really do take shit personally and this is something i need to let go of, i hadnt had the chance to talk to anyone at all about this and i appreciate the opinions.

Who, me or Hans Landa?

If you're referring toHans Landa, you should know Christoph Waltz won the Oscar for Best Supporting Actor for his performance there, and for good reason: the part was literally written for him. Tarantino went on-record saying that if Waltz had turned down the role, Inglorious Basterds wouldn't have been made.

If you're referring to me, I ain't here to impress none of you motherfuckers, so pic related.

Pretty much.

No such thing. "Porn addiction" is a term invented by radical feminists who think porn objectifies women and supported by social conservatives who believe the only sex ANYONE should have is heterosexual encounters within the confines of marriage for the purpose of procreation ONLY.

Neither group is really qualified to wax philosophical on the topic though, given what we know about them:
>radical feminists are usually lesbians who hate men & can't bear the thought of being penetrated or not being the dominant party
>uptight religious folks who can't bear the thought that sex can be* actually pleasurable in and of itself & that other people, thanks to free will, pursue it recreationally

*standard disclaimer that not all sex is pleasurable

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because you’re ugly

he has the gey

we go to different colleges and the ride is about an hour to get to each other, so our time together varies and i cant give a weekly number. hes not at all into cyber shit, doesnt ask for nudes and doesnt sext. i think we have sex regularly? if we were together for a week straight we’d probably have sex four or five times, my libido is way higher than his.

>now it just seems like a chore to him
Newsflash: sex IS a chore to men. Congratulations on finally learning an inescapable fact about the male psyche.

Pretty much, yeah.

>kek
>ur a loser bro
Why? Because I don't live my life the way you think I should? You know the cliche "a chain is only as strong as its weakest link." I left her, because she was the weak link. Not my fault. But even if it were, I don't owe you shit so nlm.

It's not uncommon for men to masturbate while in a relationship. I've had several discussions about this subject.

based

good to hear. i always jerk off when i'm in a relationship. i guess it's hard for women to understand the non-sexual side of it because women don't have that. honestly, sometimes i even get annoyed by having to jerk off when i don't feel like it.

>Why
splitting your shit more than once.
have kids? = broken family = daddy issues.
alimony
child support.

Sounds wack. Leave dude.

Coming from a dude.

Most likely hes just lazy....
Offer to ride him.
Theres been times where I just wake up and hop on my guys morning wood and he just wakes up into it and we start the day energized.
It's good for when your guy is tired.

What a strange man.

Wow @ how many guys are in here saying sex is a chore?. I have been with my girl for 5 years and still love fucking her multiple times a day if possible. We also connect deeply when we fuck sometimes, sometimes its just quickies but either way I find it much more satisfying to fuck my girl than to jack my dick.
If I beat my dick I am horny right after, I have a high sex drive and I don't mind beating my dick but I usually do it when she isn't around and I don't tell her about it lol. I think the fact he wants to jack his dick over sleeping with you should be a MAJOR issue and should be discussed, don't listen to what these pussies tell you.
Maybe he is just self conscious and doesn't want to fuck you because he feels he can't please you maybe?
I honest to god think that is the deal with most of the guys here.
They are pussies who can't please their girl or at least think they aren't pleasing her.
Whatever the case is though it definitely should be discussed and if he gets pissed at you because you are trying to discuss your feelings then he isn't worth it and he probably is better off single because it sounds like in his mind being with you is the chore not just fucking you.

yeah, i don’t feel that way at all. id 100% rather have sex than fuck myself any time, and when i do make myself cum i like to think about him during and after. maybe thats even a little too much, but i of course dont expect that from him. trying to understand something that totally goes against what you feel especially in a relationship with someone you care deeply about is really fucking hard. im incredibly physical affection based, i want touched and fucked and kissed. thats how i feel love. i dunno

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I agree....sex is more of a chore to men. It's less effort to take dick than to give dick.
Unless you're on top doing a bunch of different shit. Most positions still require the guy to thrust. This is coming from another chick.

i try to keep it even best i can lol
being denied sucks, and usually when he doesnt initiate he doesnt want to. im up for trying anything though

Id fuck you OP, id fuck you and treat you like a cum dumpster all day long. Grab you by the ass and eat it all then give you the dick and always cum inside you, yeah I'd do that.

Some people want to get sexual relief but are uncomfortable with the idea of actually having sex.

Have you had sex before? If not it's possible he's one of those 'saving it till marriage' folks.

Correct

Again, you don't know me, so allow me to elucidate:

>splitting your shit more than once.
Clean split: I took what was mine, they took what was theirs. Guess I was fortunate that I married women who had the integrity not to come after stuff I owned that they literally had no need for beyond bragging rights ("haha, I got 3 of his guitars"). Not an issue.
>have kids? = broken family = daddy issues.
No kids: got a vasectomy at 26 when with my first wife, confirmed shooting blanks. Not an issue.
>alimony
First wife was so eager to get the fuck away from me, she willingly gave up any rights to anything we acquired while we were together beyond stuff that was CLEARLY hers (as I alluded to earlier). Second wife knew I'd fight her tooth & nail if she tried, and she also knew she'd lose, so she didn't bother. Out of respect for that, we filed taxes jointly our last year together & split it 50/50. No regrets so not an issue.
>child support
Again, no kids so no child support. And again, not an issue.

I'm sorry, I seem to have completely obliterated all of the justifications you had for calling me a loser.

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Be that as it may, I live my life for myself and myself only, and I am happy for it.

lol @ guys saying they jack their dick just to cum..
what the fuck do you think about when you jack your dick?
So obviously you're THINKING about sex even doing so much as to going somewhere private opening up porn on your computer whatever the fuck you do that still takes effort.
That shit to me actually takes more effort when my girl is right there ready to fuck I get butt ass no questions asked thats easier than running off somewhere to beat your dick unless there is something fucking wrong with you or you're just not into the person wanting to fuck you and crave something new..
I am sure when he jacks off he is thinking of something else lol.

>Maybe he is just self conscious and doesn't want to fuck you because he feels he can't please you maybe?
>I honest to god think that is the deal with most of the guys here.
>They are pussies who can't please their girl or at least think they aren't pleasing her.

Oooor...

We know how to please a girl. We just don't care to do it anymore because there's too much bullshit attached to it. Ever consider that?

Do us all a favor, user: think of the most beautiful woman you can imagine, and your gf doesn't count. Got it? Picture her in your mind? Good. Now, while you're imagining her in your head, think about the following sentence:

Some guy out there is sick to death of putting up with her shit.

>First wife was so eager to get the fuck away from me, she willingly gave up any rights to anything we acquired while we were together beyond stuff that was CLEARLY hers

>I seem to have completely obliterated all of the justifications you had for calling me a loser.

kek

oh and I picked up on

>we filed taxes jointly

so I'm guessing Jewish

tick one up on the scoreboard loser.

good one if you are fiction though.

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have you ever been in a real good relationship? one you felt safe and accepted and yourself in? ever been deeply in love with a girl before?

i feel like some people are bitter here because they havent experienced an actual fulfilling long term relationship before. that or sex just really is totally disconnected from anything other than busting a nut

>oh and I picked up on
>>we filed taxes jointly
>so I'm guessing Jewish
Nope. There goes your intuition, right down the drain.

That said, current gf is Jewish though, and tbh she's a better woman than both of my ex-wives combined. She still has bullshit issues though, and frankly I'm just sick of dealing with them. When we break up, I'm going full-blown MGTOW.

For the record, I don't hate women. I just have no desire to be in a relationship anymore. Pretty much antisocial to start with, plus I have social aversion disorder. Over the years I've discovered that, for me, relationships have just always been more trouble than they were worth. I mean, for a long time I at least saw SOME value in being with a woman, both in-the-moment and long-term. Now? Not a damn thing.

Don't care what society thinks, I make enough $ to where I can support myself, have nobody I'm responsible for, fuck it. Going solo & I can't wait.

Lol I get what you're saying I really do but what I don't get is what you mean the bullshit attached to pleasing your girl or just fucking her rather?? I know some girls just get their rocks off on pleasing their dude even if they don't get a nut every time..
Which is the type of girl OP sounds like..
Back to the original statement though I do not understand what you mean by "bullshit attached" because its just fucking your girl it sounds like the deeper issue here is the relationship and not the sex itself because you still get horny and beat your dick.

Been there, done that. Doesn't last and never will.

>When we break up

>I'm going full-blown MGTOW

>i'm not a loser.

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Alright so there we go that is whats wrong with you..
Fuck the relationship aspect of it all would you rather beat your dick or stick your dick in pussy because either way dude this is the point i'm trying to get across.
If you just are scared you're no good or your dick is too small then that is on you but I KNOW every man would rather FUCK a bitch than fuck his hand.
The reason it seems like men choose their hand is because they're not attracted to the woman they are with or they are scared.
Any other fucking reason and hes lying to himself.

>MGTOW
you know that's a meme created here right?

I'm not even the same dude you were replying to.

Lol it's not a meme, it's a very real thing.

???
some kind of retard

>have you ever been in a real good relationship? one you felt safe and accepted and yourself in? ever been deeply in love with a girl before?

Yes. My first wife. She's gorgeous too. But >First wife was so eager to get the fuck away from me
So a lot of fuckin' good THAT did me.

>that or sex just really is totally disconnected from anything other than busting a nut

Not sure what you mean by that, but I've already said that vagina has totally lost its appeal for me & orgasms for me are simply a bodily function (akin to taking a shit but a little bit more pleasant and nowhere near as stinky).

Thus, with three years of solitude behind me, I have no desire to have sex with another person ever again. Don't bother trying to psychoanalyze me, because it really is as simple as that.

>it's a very real thing
I'm not arguing.
still.
started here.
as a meme.
praise kek.

maybe its me at this point? he hasnt been taking the time to make me cum lately, he kinda nuts in me and just goes to clean up and i finish myself off soon after. i havent gained weight, dont look any different, i even cut my hair the way he feels most attracted to (not just for him, it was a bonus that he liked it).

i could go on forever about his older woman fixation. now that hes in college and moving up and on maybe he just wants to experience other women and is tired of me? i fucking love this man to pieces and i cant believe the thing thats going to split us is sex. fucking stupid.

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Never started here as a meme

Lol what do you jack off to then?

nah thats fucked up. dont listen to these people that have literally rotted their brains with porn, and have a hatred of women

your man cant satisfy you, thats fucked. he has a problem if hes watching to much porn, and cant put you before the porn.

if my gf was doing the same i know id be pissed.

i too dont want sex sometimes, and just jack off. but if my girl wants it, my girl wants it. i expect the same in return.

Newfags abound tonight. OP, show tits or get the FUCK OFF our board. Jesus fucking christ.

kek
ok Yea Forumsro
you fall for that meme
praise kek for the lulz you will bring.
maybe become a trap to?
start taking hormones?
maybe lop off your cock?
kek

m8 I know it's summer but you don't have to be so painfully obvious.

>it's summer

where you from OP?

BF sounds like my old roommate
The relationship didn't work out, he was a fuckin weirdo, loved jacking off and when there's someone next to you wanting that shit, its not normal or cool to just blow them off consistently

>what I don't get is what you mean the bullshit attached to pleasing your girl or just fucking her rather
>it sounds like the deeper issue here is the relationship

If you've ever had sex with a girl, almost without exception, there has to be a relationship in-place first before sex enters the equation. Therefore, in order to have sex, you must first have a relationship. Which, as we all know, require maintenance and regular work & upkeep.

And all for what? So we have occasional access to her vagina? As long as said vagina is a source of pleasure & the maintenance requirements to maintain access to it aren't ridiculous, all is good. But as soon as vagina loses its appeal, ANY effort for maintenance is too much.

So yeah, you got it. Surprised it took you this long to figger it out.

I'm the guy that user was originally replying to & I'm telling you, I couldn't agree more.
LMAO! *brofist*

Going MGTOW because you're an incel = loser.

OTOH, I've gotten more pussy on accident than you've had on purpose. I won't be going MGTOW because I "can't get any no matter how hard I try."

I'll be going MGTOW because IT'S WHAT I WANT.

Don't know, don't care, none of that is relevant. I want peace & quiet. I want solitude. I want to be accountable to nobody. I want to be responsible for nobody. I want to be alone, plain and simple.

And in case anyone is confused or doesn't know any better, there is a MONUMENTAL difference between being "alone" and being "lonely". I'm a selfish misanthrope: I don't get lonely.

Also to be noted that sometimes things like short, thick pubic hair feels like 40 grit grinding paper, full bush like 800grit paper, while properly shaved is non issue. When fucking anorectic or really thin female there will be bone clonking that can start hurting after while and regardless how pretty you are, loose pussy is loose pussy and essentially useless.
There is several reasons why guy might not be into sex after while... but cause females pull off utter hissy fits and brake downs why the hell anyone tell them about these things?

Lol stop blaming yourself.
It is obvious he is the one that has changed.
What you could do is just stop worrying about it if you are stuck on being with him and his bitch ass wont talk to you about whats really going on.
Usually if you back off people tend to come around on their own,
Either way if sex does ruin you there is nothing wrong with that because actually sex IS important!
I think he is either just a pussy or he is losing attraction to you so you should either discuss it or just move on and whatever happens happens.
Maybe y'all just need to mix it up and try some new shit because fucking the same person can get boring and it takes a little thought to bring that connection back.
100% of the time I get off is because I am INTO it. I literally cannot cum unless I am ENJOYING it maybe other guys are different but I get really into it.
Most girls love that and in turn that makes them get more into it also.

I'd eat your ass

tits or gtfo

thank you! we’re trying to hook up with a friend and try experimenting with a threesome, one reason because of what you said. ive always been super curious to experiment with a girl anyways so, theres hope there?

maybe it is just the simple answer of boring routine. ill try suggesting some other things to mix it up if possible. i just want that spark back, i want to feel desired again.

What do you care? What relevance does that have to anything I've said in here?

Not a damn thing. Quit trying to shame me or psychoanalyze me. What I fap to is immaterial & it's illogical for you to suggest otherwise or to pursue this line of questioning further.

>dont listen to these people that have literally rotted their brains with porn, and have a hatred of women

Couple things:
>"rotting their brains with porn"
HUGELY judgmental. Don't like porn? Then don't use it. But that doesn't give you any social imperative or moral high ground to condescend to those of us who DO use it
>use porn... hate women
Mutually exclusive concepts, my friend. Correlation does not imply causation. Plenty of people who use porn love women, just like I'm sure there are more than a few guys who hate women that DON'T use porn. Kinda shoots your little pontification there all to shit, don't it?

Take a good, long look at the pathetic diatribe you just wrote. Are you happy with your life?

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Found the sociopath

I'm sorry to be the one to say, but you guys have way different sexual needs and appetites, and I stayed in a relationship like that for years. it does not get better once the NRE (new relationship energy) is gone.

this is not your lobster. unless I read it wrong you probably dont talk to each other much either. may be time to cash in your chips and move on. truly sorry to say this to you, I know it sux.

Coming from real experience I'm married I jerk off 3 times a day. Are you making an effort to get him going? Like dressing up for him, just grabbing his dick while your laying there and going down on him? Having sex once a day is cool but as a guy I can cum 4 or 5 times in one day my wife doesnt understand this.

You don't necessarily need to be boyfriend/girlfriend though, hell its not hard to fuck a complete stranger with no strings attached either maybe just require a little effort.
It seems to me that you're just selfish and just don't know how to handle a woman, while it can be challenging at times it really isn't that fucking hard bro you just have to communicate and show interest lol.
Jesus Christ is pussy really that hard for some of you to get that that you have to actually WORK for it?
Why not just be yourself and find a chick who enjoys fucking you and treat her like a fucking human being who has needs and at least give her SOME of those needs its not impossible to get your dick wet at least twice a god damn week.

>Are you happy with your life?
Once I'm on my own, yes. As it is, looking that way & I can't wait.

Bet it sucks to hear that, don't it?

>pathetic diatribe you just wrote.
Judgmental much? Newslfash: your approval of me or anything I do means less to me than whether some random antelope in the Serengeti got enough grass to eat yesterday.

Go fuck yourself.

Because I do things differently from how you think I should do them, that makes me a sociopath?

w/e.

I'm happy & pretty soon I won't have anyone else in my life close to me apart from my family. Whether I'm truly a sociopath or not, nobody will be getting hurt, so why the fuck is that a bad thing?

I'll take care of you and give you that good lovin' you need. No joke. Leave him. Where you at? Plus, tits and timestamp.

i mean porn rots your brain. Thats not me trying to slander you, thats true. Porn does a lot of bad things to you when over exposed to it.
I do use porn, infact i was porn addicted for a long time, maybe still am. But I am trying to cut back because it makes my love life better, and I overall just feel more healthy.

oh no, i wasnt trying to say that people who use porn hate women. why would you assume that?
I'm generalizing that this group of men hate women because we are on Yea Forums, and this place has turned into a anime stormfront.

He's probably dealing with addiction.

You could offer to let him use your mouth to jerk. Just dont let him cum from oral. Progress from blowing to fucking and over time you might be able to lowkey ween him off of his bate addiction.

You can also figure out what kond of porn he likes and try to act it out irl with him(dont do this on the dl as it might make him feel like his privacy is being violated) or even offer to mutually masturbate to what he's into(this almost always leads to actual sex too).

If he remains unresponsive and unwilling after a month or two it might be time to split. Good luck, m8.

tell him to stop watching porn. its making him lose his desire for you, seriously.
Ive been there, jerking off watching big titted goth girls while my gf wonders where I am. Its not healthy.

My relationship flourished after I quit porn.

Hes just choosing his addiction over you, and thats not right.

>its not hard to fuck a complete stranger with no strings attached either
No shit. I never said it was. But you're missing the point:

>maybe just require a little effort
I DON'T WANT TO MAKE ANY MORE EFFORT!!! I want to live by myself, FOR myself. Nothing else. Why dafuq can you troglodytes understand that? Why must it ALWAYS be something "else" and that vagina has the answer because vagina? Pardon the pun, but fuck that. Not interested anymore. Haven't been for years, don't see that changing anytime soon.

>Why not just be yourself and find a chick who enjoys fucking you
I have one of those but sex has to be enjoyable and desired by both parties or else it's rape. Regardless how she feels about it, I don't desire it and I don't enjoy it. Not anymore. And not just her, ANY vagina.
>its not impossible to get your dick wet
Again, you're missing the point: I don't WANT to have sex anymore. Pussy is boring anymore, I'm not interested in pursuing it no matter HOW easy it may be to get.

I swear, it must REALLY be a threatening, foreign concept for some of you faggots to comprehend, that a straight, healthy male could actually turn down pussy willingly.

Bro I am just saying if its just a body function and nothing else why are you scared to tell me your ritual for achieving said body function?
Lol it has everything to do with everything you're trying to tell me you don't like sex but you obviously THINK about sex with other people if you're using porn and jacking off.

>porn addiction doesn't exist
People should have to have licenses to post online with this level of retardation.

>Judgmental much?

Yep I'm judgmental, never claimed I wasn't. I judge you and I'm better than you

Because you are FULL OF SHIT and you need to stop lying to me and all the good people here AND YOURSELF.
If you didn't give a fuck about sex PERIOD then your dick wouldn't even get hard and you wouldn't need porn and no need to bust a nut.

I guess to describe the deeper issue, women think that they dont have to do any of the work in a relationship. Just because you have a pussy doesn't mean you get a free pass for bad sex. Also in a long relationship what really matters is what you do for your significant other because at some point only being able to offer sex isnt good enough.

>porn rots your brain
Your opinion, which that plus $0.50 is worth half a dollar.
>thats true
No it's not. Stop deluding yourself with that bullshit & it'll make life easier for the rest of us because you won't be troweling out your judgmental bullshit like as if it were manna from heaven.
>Porn does a lot of bad things to you when over exposed to it
So does spaghetti. So does walking on the sand. So does Fox News. Anything is bad when you're overexposed. But according to you, ANY exposure to porn is "overexposure". Fuck you. Who died & made you the moral quantifier of Yea Forums?
>i wasnt trying to say that people who use porn hate women. why would you assume that?
Because there's a LOT of that shit in the media & on here. If you were around a month ago, a bunch of fascist Trump voters tried to commandeer Yea Forums with "yellow" posts in an effort to rid Yea Forums of porn on the basis that it's "degenerate" & leads to "hatred of women" (which is laughable considering how much fascists TRULY hate women). If that's not you, then *brofist*.
>I'm generalizing that this group of men hate women because we are on Yea Forums, and this place has turned into a anime stormfront.
LMAO! Never heard it put that way before but I totally get it.

I'm not one of those anime faggots though. Granted, there's no way for you to know that, but I'm telling you.

>Hes just choosing his addiction over you
GTFO here. No such thing as "porn addiction". Only man-hating feminazis & uptight conservative fascists believe this shit, and they're both wrong.

It could be that simple.. be careful of the threesome though lol are you 2 jealous of each other?
On another note when its good for y'all what types of things do y'all do? if you don't mind me asking.

If you weren't a mouth-breather you'd realise that anything that provides a dopamine kick can cause addiction. It's basic chemistry. Whether or not you can accept that and justify it to yourself is up to you

what are you even talking about dude?
you sound like your on stimulants?

your shitting up this thread with an opinion that is retarded. please leave.
this girls bf has a problem, end of story. if he quit porn that problem would be rectified, i can gurantee it

>97 replies
>not tits
I'm done with you

How did you come to this conclusion man??
Women don't feel that way at all in fact its probably the opposite women feel they have to give the pussy up in order to keep you interested.
What do you mean women don't think they have to work in the relationship what kind of work are you even talking about?
Being with you sounds like a job itself

I fucking wish I had a gf that would do this for stuff for/with me. Been bating everyday for like 3 years now and lost a good gf because of the dependence. I dont blame her for leaving but I really wish she would have tried.

Actually now that you say that it does seem like he is on something doesn't it?
adderall baby. mother fucker been up too long lol..
I am still waiting on him to tell me what he uses to masturbate with.

I'm not telling you because it's not relevant. And here's the reason why:
>you obviously THINK about sex with other people
You know this HOW exactly? Oh that's right, you don't. Because you know shit. For the record, I DON'T think about "sex with other people" because I have no desire to ever be intimate with another human being. Fucking deal with it.

>user makes a claim
>I counter claim & explain reasons why said claim is a fallacy
>user accuses me of retardation
Project much?

Well whoopty-fuckin'-doo, I guess you just put ME in my place! Whatever will I do now?

Clearly you don't have a penis or you wouldn't have gone to the trouble of typing that stupidity. If you DID have a penis, you'd know that it can get hard at any point in time for any fuck reason. Ever hear of morning wood? I don't know about anyone else, but my cock's NEVER as hard as it is when I first wake up & need to piss. And I guarantee, in those moments, I am NOT thinking about sex. But since you mentioned it, I'd be perfectly fine if I never got a hard on ever again.

And again, busting a nut = bodily function. Nothing more.

>at some point only being able to offer sex isnt good enough
Congratulations, you get it, which is more than I can say for a lot of these other fucktards. Sadly, I have reached "some point" and will be remedying my situation soon enough.

I've had 2 pots of coffee & I jerk off to porn with goats & dolphins.

Happy now? Good. Now STFU>FOPLZKTHXBAI

*pops another adhd med*
*brofist*

genuinely this made me stop and think

You're implying that "giving up the pussy" involves work.

It doesn't.

"The bull inseminates the herd". All the female has to do is lay there & be a receptacle. LOT of work there, user. However do you manage?

damn you must of had some bad pussy in your day

If a bitch was just laying there idk if id even finish. no one wants a dead fish

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Lol I actually heard this in jail but could be true, when you are sleeping your dick gets hard to stop you from pissing on yourself.
Either way what do you do with your morning wood? I doubt you feel the need to masturbate if you have to piss... im getting beside the point though and I am losing interest in this conversation because you have no idea what the fuck you are talking about and you are a fucking liar.

First off giving up the pussy does involve work lol the girl has to be into you and her body has to allow it otherwise it feels like shit and im sure is completely uncomfortable for her..
she doesn't just lay there and take it theres more to it than that..
However do I manage lol you know I'm not a female right? I have just been with quite a few and paid attention to them.

>ad·dict·ed
>/əˈdiktəd/
>adjective
>physically and mentally dependent on a particular substance, and unable to stop taking it without incurring adverse effects

>ad·dic·tion
>/əˈdikSH(ə)n/
>noun
>the fact or condition of being addicted to a particular substance, thing, or activity

Some resources to back my claim. I don't expect you to read all of them(I haven't and likely won't), but they do illustrate that porn addiction is a real phenomenon.
>mhsso.org/poc/view_doc.php?type=doc&id=49381&cn=1413
>psychologytoday.com/us/blog/meaningful-you/201309/the-hidden-wisdom-porn-addiction?amp
>webmd.com/sex/porn-addiction-possible
>fightthenewdrug.org/how-porn-can-become-addictive/

If you become so dependant on any superfluous activity or thing that you compulsively attempt to attain it at the cost of function, you are very likely an addict. Not everybody agrees, but so far studies seem to indicate that this is the truth.

>damn you must of had some bad pussy in your day
Some yes, not saying they were all like that. And as for "dead fish", I couldn't agree more.

But you missed my point: females don't HAVE to do any work. All they HAVE to do is lay there. Nothing else.

>when you are sleeping your dick gets hard to stop you from pissing on yourself.
Sounds like bullshit, I wouldn't put too much stock in it. The fact that you "heard it in jail" should be enough for that.
>what do you do with your morning wood?
Uh, I get up & take a piss. What would you SUGGEST I do? Run out to the landscapers & stuff it into a wood chipper? It IS "morning wood" after all. Fuckin' retard.
>I doubt you feel the need to masturbate if you have to piss
Answers his own question. *facepalms*
>you have no idea what the fuck you are talking about
LMAO! I've been talking about myself for the vast majority of this & I have no idea wtf I'm talking about. Ok, buddy.
>you are a fucking liar
Says the faggot that can't bear to admit that someone disagrees with him on something. Fuck you.
>giving up the pussy does involve work
Yeah, just laying there. WHOLE lotta work we're talking about.
>you know I'm not a female right?
No, but I also don't give a shit. All that mattered to me is that you say the same shit a female would say, so you get the same verbal bitchslap a stupid cunt would get for saying (or typing) the same things.
>I have just been with quite a few and paid attention to them
So. Fucking. What. I have too and I have too. And I'm not interested in doing either anymore. Doesn't make me wrong, doesn't make me a liar & doesn't make me anything more than just a bitter fuck who's lost interest in vagina. Don't like it? I gives a shit.

And fyi: assuming it's true, that you've "been with quite a few" women doesn't give you license to speak for ALL of them.

i mean a dude doesnt HAVE to do any work either.
he can just lay there and get riden, or some amazonian power woman shit

your just describing shitty sex user.

Why do you try so hard to be an infectiously shitty person? You could put the same effort into actually helping people if you wanted to. I wonder what stops you from taking this logical step in the right direction. Narcissism? Money?
>Addiction?

I think this point is flying over your head and there is a reason. I assume you never had a long term relationship, in a long term relationship say 5 years you just fuck to fuck. Your wife or gf gets lazy then what's real in a relationship for a man and woman when sex doesnt matter? Can you answer this question?

Ok bro just lay there and let some man fuck you in the ass and then tell me it doesn't take any work, the shit isn't as simple as some bitch just laying there.
Her just letting you inside takes something, she has to be into you, she has to be turned on.
I have fucked girls just because i was horny and pushed them into it although they weren't in the mood at the time, and the shit is difficult for both of us.
It obviously takes work for both of you which is why you're so fucking bitter about it because you can't get any pussy and when you do it probably never comes back which is why the fuck you're so bitter.
I am not speaking for all women, i am saying you're a MORON who doesn't understand shit about them which explains why you're here all depressed talking about you lost interest in vagina.. mother fucker vagina lost interest in you

>your just describing shitty sex user
No, I'm describing the facts. If a man just lays there, it's a crapshoot if sex can happen (proper, penetrative sex) dependent solely on whether he can achieve & maintain an erection.

All a woman has to do is lay there. No amount of mental gymnastics is going to change that irrefutable fact. And before you say "well she has to be excited" under the premise that sexual excitation will provide sufficient lubrication in order to achieve penetration, I present the following exhibits for the prosecution:
>saliva
>loogies (this actually works better than straight saliva, fwiw)
>vaseline
>ky jelly
>any number of flavored lubricants available at your local sex shop

Tits, etc.

>Why do you try so hard to be an infectiously shitty person?
Maybe because I AM an "infectiously shitty person"?
>I wonder what stops you from taking this logical step in the right direction. Narcissism? Money?
>Addiction?
More like
>indifference
>nihlisim
>apathy
>laziness
>lack of overall interest
>selfishness

those are all just substitutes for excitement.

by the same logic a man could take viagra or some other erection pill.

What the fuck does the fact the she has to lay there have to do with anything??
She has to LET you hit it unless you're talking about rape.
Yeah she has a pussy and she can just lay there and take it.
Guess what I have a dick and I can just lay there and take it too what is the point of what you are trying to say?
I really don't get what you mean by all they have to do is lay there lol what is the significance?

I've been with the same woman for a decade and our sex is still great. She likes roleplay so pretty much every session is spent actively engaging each other physically mentally and emotionally. Just because you haven't met/been allowed to fuck these women doesn't mean they don't exist you enormous faggot.

Sex only gets boring when you cant get in tune with your partner or of you genuinely doesnt like the other. I feel bad for your girlfriends is your posts accurately depict your views on sex, m8.

gentle femdom, some roleplay here and there, i like lingerie (skirts, clothed sex, whatever else) thats about all i could think of? we tried anal and do that every so often too.

>I have fucked girls just because i was horny and pushed them into it although they weren't in the mood at the time
Congratulations:

You're a rapist.

And you have the audacity to lecture ME?! Oh, the humanity.

>i am saying you're a MORON
I'm a member of Mensa & I possess a university degree, I seriously doubt I qualify as a "moron" but w/e makes you happy user
>who doesn't understand shit about them
I understand a lot more than you're willing to give me credit for, that's the problem. You think you know it all, I'm throwing a wrench in the works & that just fucks you right up. And I gives a shit.
>which explains why you're here all depressed
Whoever said I was depressed? I'm happier now than I've been in years. Why? Because I'm going to be on my own in the very near future and I'm very much looking forward to it
>talking about you lost interest in vagina..
Yeah, and?
>mother fucker vagina lost interest in you
Oh NO?!?!? Say it ain't SO!

That you recognize this in yourself says that you're aware of the room you have to grow. Next step is just maintaining that room until the growth actually takes.

Not trying to be rude(anymore), but you seem kind of sad. Do you get enough proper social interaction? Just having someone you can talk to when life takes a big ol shit on your back can be a major long term stress reliever.

maybe you actually are ugly.
also post tits or gtfo

I dont need advice from you, lol. I am sucessful have a great wife and great life and I did it all by being a man and taking what I want, but that's enough about me.I'm trying to make a point and it still eludes you love and trust, i love my wife and therefore I'd move heaven and earth for her. But to the woman that couldn't have me my point is you will never get anywhere just relying on your pussy because sex gets old.

Bypassed all the women bullshit by just getting a vasectomy at 18 and staying away from women & guys altogether. Speaking of which why hasn't OP posted tits yet.

None of which negates the fact that...

All a female (or male, if you wanna consider anal) has to do is just lay there and be a receptacle.

>She has to LET you hit it unless you're talking about rape
I wasn't talking about rape, so cool your jets. But "LETTING" someone hit it doesn't qualify as "work". Unless you wanna count "making a decision" alone as work, in which case all these CEOs are totally justified with their overly-inflated salaries fucking over their workers, because since they're "making decisions", CLEARLY on the basis of that, they're the hardest working motherfuckers in their entire industry. Ain't that right?
>I really don't get what you mean by all they have to do is lay there lol what is the significance?
Because "laying there" is not work. Because "deciding to let someone hit it" is ALSO not work. And you're too fuckin' dense to wrap your peabrain around those facts.

>Just because you haven't met/been allowed to fuck these women doesn't mean they don't exist you enormous faggot
Not the user you were responding to, but
>I have met, and been "allowed" to fuck these women
>I never once suggested they don't exist, as I'm sure they do
However, as you implied there, in a classic understanding of the sexual dynamic, women are the ones who decide whether sex happens or not. In order for that to work, access to the vagina has to be coveted.

I no longer covet vagina. Therefore, whether or not a woman decides sex is going to happen is irrelevant because I no longer am interested in it.

It's the damndest thing, ain't it? A healthy, straight guy saying no to pussy? Jesus, where's the country going anymore.

I have never had experience with a girl that thinks she can get by on just her pussy alone.
I think if a girl acts this way with a certain guy then it is the guy's fault for turning it into that.
Just like my girl was friends with this guy who would give her anything she wanted because he wanted to fuck her but it never worked she just took his shit..
Eventually he got mad because she never gave him anything and she wound up getting back with me..
The point I am trying to make is y'all put the pussy on a pedestal.
Women are the greatest fucking gift man has ever gotten and you should learn to appreciate them and also how to treat them.
They are super emotional yeah but actually very fucking easy to please.
They also hate bitch boys who put the pussy on a pedestal and guys who will give them whatever the fuck they want when they want it those are the types of guys they use their pussies to control

>you're aware of the room you have to grow
Yes, I'm aware there's room. I'm also apathetic & indifferent. Mostly because I don't see occupying that "room" as "growth". More like an absurd waste of time.
>Next step is just maintaining the indifference & apathy, and thus my happiness
Fixed.
>but you seem kind of sad
Not in the slightest. Happier than I've been in years, honestly. Mostly because I see light at the end of the tunnel of hate & misery I've been mired in the last 7 years.
>Do you get enough proper social interaction?
Sure I do. But I'm antisocial as fuck & am not interested in "sharing" or "spending time with someone else". I'm independent as fuck, I hate people & I want to be by myself. So whatever "proper social interaction" I get would, I'm sure" be severely deficient by your standards. Doesn't make me wrong, you right or me give a fuck either way, but there ya go.
>Just having someone you can talk to when life takes a big ol shit on your back can be a major long term stress reliever.
I appreciate the effort, but you don't know my situation, and "having someone to talk to" never once solved any of my problems. OTOH, I HAVE solved my problems, and it didn't require "having someone to talk to" for one ounce of that.

I did that at 26, while in the Army, with no kids, and my first wife is Catholic. Glad to see I'm not the only one who hates kids.

I don't think you are straight at all but whatever bro I don't really care either.

Sorry I been getting way too into the discussions on here.
I never tried femdom lmao I don't think that is something I could get into at all.
Lingerie and different outfits in general are sweet though..
Do you ever like to get dominated though?
I prefer women to be submissive during sex..
Do y'all do alot of eye contact and dirty talk?

>I have never had experience with a girl that thinks she can get by on just her pussy alone
Then you have never had any experiences with girls, because to some degree, EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM feels that way.
>Just like my girl was friends with this guy...
He was a beta & she properly friend-zoned his ass.
>y'all put the pussy on a pedestal
You say that, then follow it up in the ver next sentence with
>you should learn to appreciate them and also how to treat them
Congratulations: you just gave a full, proper definition of "putting the pussy on a pedestal"

Me? I put some C-4 charges around that pedestal & blew it the fuck to oblivion. Pussy? On the fuckin' ground, where it belongs. Maybe some schmuck will walk by sometime soon, feel sorry for it & take it home with him. But it won't be me.
>They are super emotional yeah but actually very fucking easy to please
Clearly hs either never been married or has no balls to speak of. Women are NEVER "easy to please".

how many times have you turned down his requests for sex? i had a girl that didnt want to fuck 95% of the time so i gave up trying and started choking the chicken. she told me that it made her feel unwanted and i said that was in no way my fault. the bitch had an excuse for fucking everything.

i left her not long after

coming from a femanon that has experience with a (formerly) porn addicted bf: if it truly bothers you tell him to stop. if he doesnt stop just leave him, why stay in a relationship with someone you arent completely satisfied with? its a waste of time.

the fact he prefers porn over sex is a major sign of porn addiction. whether or not people say a "porn addiction" is real or not is irrelevant, people can be addicted to literally anything. my bf would never reject sex from me but had really bad ED and shit before he stopped looking at porn and our relationship improved 100% within a month after he stopped. im not anti-porn or anything but when it starts to cause problems in a relationship it really needs to be put under control.

It has becomr apparent that youre here to prove something. What that thing is is unlikely to be in line with what youre actually talking about, as it has also become apparent that you're attempting to prove it to yourself rather than to us.

I'm antisocial too, so I can guarantee that whatever you thought my bottom line for social onteraction was, it was lower.

What is the point of your life? Or better yet; what do you consider to not be an "absurd waste of time"? Because from my perspective, your interactions in this thread are at least that and at most a misguided attempt at seeking comfort through nearly consequenceless social interaction.

I agree any man that let's a woman use him is at fault for getting used. But I think the truth is as a feminist, woman have the right to exist and do as they please, as a man I do as I please. No one is more important than you. In a relationship there is compromise. "No hunny I wont fuck that girl eyeing me at the grocery store," and the same time she doesnt fuck every guy that wants her. There is a substandard of control in a relationship and the key is compromise and balance of the control.

Also you are failing to understand what I mean by "what is the significance?"
I am asking you what does it matter if its work or not??
you're saying because she decides if you are going to fuck her or not and that means you have to put in an effort?
lmfao that is so fucking pathetic that you are too much of a bitch to put yourself out there that is how the world has been since fucking forever..
and you don't always have to work to get pussy unless you're a disgusting fucking slob and in that case I am sorry but you weren't born with the gift of not having to work for it.
Whatever though just giving up on pussy is your decision I am trying to make you realize it doesn't matter if she has to work for it or not or if that seems unfair to you it just is the way it is and you seem to have a problem accepting that in order to fuck a woman you may have to provide a little effort lol I think it is because you are socially awkward though, and most females wouldn't fuck with you because you don't know how to work with what you got.

Ive decided not to stick around for this shitshow.

I hope you figure things out with your bf, op. If you make it clear you need more involvement from him and he refuses, you should probably cut ties.

And I hope the user I've been responding to figures shit out for themselves before it's too late. It's a hard world. Good luck keeping yourself together.

There is much wisdom in this post. Good on you, m8.

hes mostly submissive which im fine with, but if im not going all out on dominating him its just power balanced. eye contact is usually a thing, not so much lately i think... dirty talk only happens when im on top and dominating. he doesnt like dirty talking, i think it’s embarrassing to him or smth. i dont know.

questions ive been answering are sort of making me realize how much of a recent thing this is. admittedly ive had to come to him a few times about not being satisfied and needing more from him, not even just sexually, physical things like handholding and kissing too. and now hes asking me if he can go jerk off in the bathroom 10 feet from the bedroom behind the door. i feel queasy.

lol so every single female in the world feels that way?
what I mean by appreciate them and ALSO how to treat them is to fucking appreciate the beauty of them.
Also appreciate that YOU came from a woman's vagina.
By treat them I mean understanding what they respond to, because they are so emotion driven they often times don't themselves know what the fuck they want and because their hormones are all fucked up they have a hard time with controlling their emotions.
So yeah listen to them to an extent but pay more attention to what the fuck they respond to its not hard for any guy with half a brain.

i’d give it a good 60%? enough to deter me from wanting to get touchy and flirty, its so fucking disappointing when he looks at me like im some insane person and mutters “not right now” and goes off to do something else. makes me feel useless. i just wait for him most of the time now, and its so grueling. ill put on lingerie and get into bed and he’ll just say i look cute and play on his phone.

Ok so your bf is a sissy, maybe your putting too much pressure on him to perform that the sex isnt enjoyable for him. As a guy I would fuck you until your ass turned blue if you jumped me like that, but maybe your kinder gentler bf wants to be cuddled to fuck.

So you turn down his requests 60% of the time but get upset when he doesn’t wanna fuck you? Kys

HE turns down MY requests 60% of the time. i always fuck him when he initiates. you misunderstood.

oh fuck, my bad. i thought the original post’s question asked how much HE denied my requests.

i am always willing to have sex when he wants. i dont remember ever denying him a fuck in our full time being together.

its about a 60% for him.

>can I suck your cock?
>you can look at porn while I do it
Try this but dont let him cum. Over time you wont need the porn and after that you wont even need to initiate the interaction. Plus he'll think youre the coolest gf ever.

If his behavior doesnt change after this you might just need someone more compatible.

>In a relationship there is compromise. "No hunny I wont fuck that girl eyeing me at the grocery store," and the same time she doesnt fuck every guy that wants her.
Not the user you were responding to. That sounds great. Except for me:
>not interested in compromise
>interested in autonomy
>not interested in fucking anyone
>likewise, not interested in who anyone else fucks, as long as it's not me

>I am asking you what does it matter if its work or not?
Because you & I'm sure everyone else in here has been hell-bent on trying to perpetuate the myth that "females do work in sex too". Sure it happens, probably quite often in fact. But at the very core of the situation, no female has ever HAD to do any work, as all they really need to do for sex to happen, willing or not, is to provide a receptacle. That, in and of itself, is not work, and it's really annoying being told that it is.
>too indifferent to put yourself out there
Fixed.
>in order to fuck a woman
No longer relevant because don't care
>you may have to provide a little effort
Ya think?! Wanna know why that's the case? Because I'm male; it's inherent in the description.
>you are socially awkward though
Don't give a shit, both what you think or whether that's a true statement or not
>most females wouldn't fuck with you because you don't know how to work with what you got.
I gives a shit why? If I'm not interested in the fucking slightest in pursuing THEM, what makes you think I'd give two shits that none of them want anything to do with me? As far as I'm concerned, they're giving me exactly what I want: time alone away from them and the bullshit rat race that is "dating" and "sex."

Had it, bored with it, don't want it anymore.

What you need to do is take his phone throw it on the floor and get on top of him talk about how tight you are and how much you need his cum

Yeah sorry to say that is pathetic about running away to jack it 10 feet from the bedroom..
Have you ever been dominated?
Had someone looking you directly in the eyes and taking charge of you?
Saying whatever comes to mind at that point in time?
I love that shit its actually always worked for me and it makes me cum hard...
Idk shit about him but maybe he just don't know what to do.
Dirty talk and eye contact are a huge deal they can escalate the sex to another level.
Maybe you should just give up if you have actually came to him and he isn't doing shit but jacking his dick..
I don't mean to sound like an asshole but I am sure you can do better and I am sure there are dudes lined up perfectly capable of giving you what you want, don't waste too much time on someone who will never be what you need.
He also needs to know that just because you're with him now trying to work with him doesn't mean you're always going to be.
Sounds like he has gotten too comfortable with neglecting you.

ill definitely try this.

just wish i didnt have to dangle porn as a treat in front of him to get him to fuck my face.

he likes his hand better bitch

>Also appreciate that YOU came from a woman's vagina
Something of which I had ZERO fucking choice over and greatly resent.

As for the rest of your post, you seem to be under the mistaken impression that
>I care what you have to say
>I want sex
>I'm unhappy with my life
None of these is the case, believe me.

look dude fuck it I am sorry ok? jesus fucking christ i feel bad for you because I want to know why you are the way you are or maybe you're just having fun making some shit up either way ive wasted alot of time talking to you.

Lol don't try that shit what the fuck?
A guy that needs to watch porn to fuck you is pathetic holy shit and you would settle for that?
What do you look like?

>to get him to fuck my face
What a lucky guy.

If all goes right the porn wont be needed for long. It's a classic bait-and-switch

>implying we dont all have faults
>implying people cant like each other in spite of these faults
>implying you shouldnt try to help people you care about even when the results would be mutually beneficial
Yeah ok

this is the perfect example of what i have been trying to say.
dude is like women don't have to work at it blah blah
then op is like im gonna let my man watch porn and suck his dick because i am loyal and am willing to put my own feelings aside just for him.
I am just saying it looks to me like OP is putting in overtime for this mother fucker and everyone saying bitches dont put in work

It's all good user. Don't feel bad for me. Don't feel anything, really. I'm on the verge of finally making my dreams come true. Do with that whatever you wish.

Just don't make the mistake of thinking by being "alone" that I'll be "lonely." I'm immune to loneliness & I crave being alone.

She tried to help him when she went to him and offered him ass and then tried to talk to him about how hes a selfish prick but he just ran off to play with his dick.
I am just saying it seems to me like if she is being straight up then she deserves better.

I'm the one who's been saying women don't HAVE to put in work.

However, I will absolutely concede that OP is light years above & beyond what would normally be considered a "reasonable" amount of effort. I hope she finds the happiness (and cum) she craves.

>I crave being alone
>thats why I've wasted the last hour or 2 talking to strangers instead of being alone
Dont worry. We all believe you. Thats awesome about your dreams tho

I used to be this way I craved being alone, I never stopped craving pussy so there is that..
I always treated women like shit and only used them for sex and some of them for drugs.
I friendzoned a girl and got free pills from her every month I took her whole script, I fucked another girl for a script of adderall every month. I lied to alot of girls and let them think we were dating when as soon as i was alone I didnt give a fuck about anyone. I was always selfish until I actually met this girl who I had 2 kids with and I cant picture being alone anymore,,
Sometimes I miss it and I have left her multiple times but every time I leave I no longer enjoy being alone for more than maybe a couple weeks then I actually get lonely

You might be right, but you seem to be ignoring the intricacies that come along with maintaining human relationships.

If her bf is an addict and she leaves him just cause he dont want the fuck when she want the fuck, he might end up sinking deeper into addiction. I dont know if you have any loved ones, but generally people dont like seeing or leaving them in that state.

If she instead helps him to get over it in a healthy way that also gets them both what they want, the chances of her loved one sinking like that are drastically cut. Plus they both get the fuck with someone they like. Everybody wins.

And this is only based off the information op has made available. Im sure theres tons to it that we dont know about but still makes their bond tight enough that she cares to try.

It may be a bit messed up, but if he just wants to jack off and cum to porn, you can just try to be a fleshlight for him. As in, ride him cowgirl style while he watches porn in the back or something. When you can feel him getting close, dirty talk in his ear until he cums in you. Unfortunately it means that you'd be doing all the work, but ideally he might really get into it and eventually he'll be the one to escalate it to fucking. Maybe, it'll even set up a free-use relationship

>i swear to god im not ugly

That's not how this works, tits or gtfo.

Why are y'all telling her to do this to herself?
Lol he still fucks her omg its not like he isn't fucking her at all!!!
he fucks her and doesn't even take her into consideration when he does.
he is already using her as a fleshlight lol.
he isn't so addicted that he isn't doing shit with her at all and hes ruining his life and his relationships by doing it.
this isn't a porn addiction problem people jesus christ.

that sounds hot in a One Time Roleplay Scenario sense, id love to be used like that for fun, but...

being a fleshlight because he doesnt want to fuck me and rather be jerking off somewhere else just because i want his cock? i dont know, that doesnt even feel like sex to me. i want to do whatever i can to bring him back to normalcy if possible, but the thought of stooping down to that regularly just makes me want to cry. im a beautiful woman and i want desired, i want fantasized about, i want fucked silly because he wants MY pussy. my moans. my body.
thank you for the input though :,)

I don't do facebook, twitter, twitch, instagram or any of those bullshit other "social media" things. This is my only outlet & I enjoy writing.

>I used to be this way I craved being alone
Cool. Your point?
>I never stopped craving pussy so there is that
Ok, here's where we diverge. Not sure what you can add that will resonate with me after that, but w/e.
>I was always selfish until I actually met this girl who I had 2 kids with and I cant picture being alone anymore
Well good for you, IDGAF. I had a vasectomy before I ever hit "print" on the human xerox machine, so if I ever spend any time w/ anyone, it's because I WANT to, not because I feel compelled to do so for any other reason. And once I'm on my own & away from everyone else, if I'm spending time w/ someone & decide I no longer want to

I'll fucking leave.

Ahh, the freedom. Smells so sweet, I can't wait for it.

Thats a little far imo. If theyre not both into that, it wont last long and it wont end well. This can be used as a step toward better sexual communication, but making it the main course is probably not what op is looking for and is definitely not gonna help the bf in the long haul.

You should feel desired and fantasized about, as someone who tends to be a bit selfless, it's inconceivable to try not to satisfy my partner. But since as it currently stands, he doesn't even enjoy fucking you and rarely does so anyway, it's not a bad idea in an attempt to jump start his sex-drive. If he starts associating being inside you with the same desire he has to jerk off, then ideally you two could start getting back to actual full body and spirit fucking. The free-use thing is just supposed to be a launching pad, not permanent

This. Or inescapable faggotry.

>implying you need other people in order to write
With the way you deflect I have a feeling youre going to make some therapist very happy some day.

Its so obvious that you crave this interaction. Not admitting it to yourself doesnt change the reality of its symptoms. If you didnt want low risk communication, you wouldnt be here. Abstract that concept in whatever way you like and its core is still true. If you wanted be alone you wouldnt come to a place in order to converse because you would just do something alone. Simple as that.

>inb4; more mental gymnastics

I concur
Get yer tits oot

Hey well check it right now I am fantasizing about destroying your pussy while you are moaning hard as im staring you in the eye telling you how beautiful you are and how you are gonna do whatever I want you to do. Making you mine.
Fuck that femdom shit with your submissive sissy ass boyfriend hell maybe he would like to watch me do this to you, sounds like that is the type of shit he would be into.

We are visual creatures. Order some stuff to wear from aliexpress. This arrived today for ~$5. Money well spent if you ask me.

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This is great advice.

You might have a point there, but if op is near tears considering this option, theres probably a better way.

Its been said that in healthy relationships both partners put in 60% but only expect 40 back. I hope it works out for op but I also hope that she remembers this in the future. Cant force someone to care, though you often can persuade them with time. Just dont wait too long or else your youth might pass you by.

>If you didnt want low risk communication, you wouldnt be here
I don't mind "low-risk communication" fwiw but tbh being on here has interfered w/ me getting in sufficient Netflix time so fuck you. ;)

And I'm currently in school (with a roommate) so I can't TRULY "do what I want alone". Few months from now though? Sheer solitude.

How creepy is it when guys try to pick up girls in relationships? Find a better way to validate your existence, m8. That or get ready to end up sad and lonely.

Fair enough, but change is slow moving. There isn't this magical aphrodisiac that's going to solve their problems in bed. He's probably going to need to be eased back into it, figured that might be one way to do it

>"I want to be alone but cant cuz of roomie"
>continues to engage in social activity anyway
Lolok. Bye now

if u want him to fuck you a good start is walking around the house naked

also tits or gtfo

Fuckin nailed it.

You are one dense fucker. If you wanna be alone so bad why are you spending your freetime with us? Go do literally anything alone if you want it that badly. Next time you get on Yea Forums itll be because you didnt really want to be alone. Stop lying to yourself and get real, fam. Dead serious here.

The song is related, but probably not meant for you.
m.youtube.com/watch?v=-9tUTWFIkZY

Lol for real though? it was for shits and giggles kid I just want to see if she's into it.
I honest to god think that she would be she's obviously sexually deprived and all anyone here can say to her is to fucking accept it or let him watch porn while she tries to do her thing..
obviously that's not going to work for her
she wants to feel sexy and she wants to feel like he is turned on by her like her pussy is all that he needs.
she wants that validation man I know exactly wtf she wants and all im saying is I could give it to her more than likely on a level she aint ever had before and her boyfriend would probably like it from what i can tell about the dude lol.

Plenty people could. She chose someone thats not you to get it from and likes them enough that shes down to help them both in order to have it.

Stepping between a couple is a classic powermove used by the insecure in order to project that insecurity onto others as if this would lessen their own feelings. Even when that's not the case, it still expresses a personality inclined toward selfishness and sabotage at the expense of others. Some sorry suckers definitely like that in their partners, but that doesn't make it any less unhealthy.

Good luck at life tho.

asking Yea Forums for a advice

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We've been able to figure out based solely on your neckbeardy posts that you are a most unpleasant person to talk to. Consider suicide tho cuz if that's your outlook on life what's even the fucking point?

There is no point to you.

for real this is some of the best advice ive received on this issue. friends arent honest, and honestly cant be trusted to keep this info private.

love these motherfuckers.

>No such thing. "Porn addiction" is a term invented by radical feminists who think porn objectifies women and supported by social conservatives who believe the only sex ANYONE should have is heterosexual encounters within the confines of marriage for the purpose of procreation ONLY.
>Neither group is really qualified to wax philosophical on the topic though, given what we know about them:
>>radical feminists are usually lesbians who hate men & can't bear the thought of being penetrated or not being the dominant party
>>uptight religious folks who can't bear the thought that sex can be* actually pleasurable in and of itself & that other people, thanks to free will, pursue it recreationally
>*standard disclaimer that not all sex is pleasurable
AHAHAHAHAHA

Calm down now. Kicking the kid when hes down says more about you than it does them. Hes obviously full of it, but its clear to see youve got some wool over those eyes too.

lol why are you so worried about it?
like dead ass I wasn't even trying like that but the fact you come in here like that hating on me for even doing it is aggravating.
whatever though appreciate the good luck wishes. hope the same for you.
I bet she can work the fuck out of some dick though

Agreed. Most of Yea Forums is absolutely dipshit-tier stupid, but if youre down to dig through the shitposts, trolls and hateposts theres almost always some gold to be found. People that cant find the value probably just dont know whats really valuable imo

The thing is I live in a similar fashion; I just don't delude myself about it.

Lots of shits aggravating. Doesnt really matter if you do it for laugh tho since your actions can still have real consequences.

She does sound like a good lay tho. Nothing like a girl thirsty for some vitamin d. Her bf is one lucky schmuck if you ask me

Most likely, yes. I'm sorry. I was the same way with my wife after I got sick of her shit. Divorced her of course.

Think about your relationship. Think about it and try to be honest.

Lol I wouldn't say hes lucky so much as he is an idiot.
I wanna put the dick in her ribcage
lol for real though is op even still here?

yeah im here, enjoying the comments to be honest. still open for advice. tits in a sec bc you guys earned them lol

What happened to tits or get the fuck out? It makes this thread so meaningless without it.

nice.
I am all out of advice though except lemme get you right lol.

he probably loves Speedwagon

Jacking off is a very intimate thing. It allows a man to learn about himself, and its usually either just to get the nut out, or to relax and meditate.

nice pussy, btw

honestly,
timestamped tits would be nice to see,
but pussy is even better. And yes, I do mean "cat" and not your moldy old female parts.

I love you bunch of idiots

>inb4 this is not op and we're all waiting on hot tits thatll never arrive
An user can dream tho

my ghosties as a thank you for making me feel better and giving me a game plan. B)

i hope i can fix this shit. i really fucking do.

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holy fuck they're even better than i could have ever imagined

and there's no way theyre >18

Shut the fuck up Boomer

Damn, aint no way!
wheres the dick beater at though?

He still there with you?

God damn those are nice. Dat mouth too

If it doesnt work out at least find peace in knowing droves of other men would love to do for you

turned 18 last month lol

hes not here, we dont live together or live close, mentioned earlier in thread. about an hour away.

please moar?

Oh yeah thats right hes in college or some shit.
So whats your game plan?
I actually been paying attention though, for the most part anyway

Im currently doing to my gf what ops bf did to op, with the pic op posted. Except my gf likes the idea of being cuckqueened.

Is this good? Y/N

so you mean, when he hangs out with you, he purposefully masturbates away from you?
clearly there's something wrong.

if you're both happy, and if you can attract other women to fuck, then i don't see the problem.

That much has been established. Any ideas on how to fix it?

Second. Op is fine af

hold up i need another pic though can i see your face?

bite the bullet i guess, (thanks for paying attention

as sad as it is to say, sometimes you're just not sexually compatible with someone. you just have to decide if that's important enough for you to justify finding someone else.

Not op but fuck off

and yes
maybe try the stupid fucking porn blowjob thing. i dont like it but maybe in the heat of the moment i could work into it.

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>loose pussy

I love my wife. We get along great. Both of our sexual appetites are decent enough. I'd never tell her this, but the pussy is loose. Sex just doesn't feel that good. I can't even blame the condom because I've had girlfriends that felt great regardless. It makes me not want to have sex, so we go weeks, sometimes months in between. We do handjobs/blowjobs and fingering here and there, but she's still not satisfied. She thinks I just have low libido.

tried anal? i was totally against anal for a really long time, thought it was stupid and had zero desire to try it. got with a new boyfriend (current), ended up trying it, would totally recommend to any woman and any couples looking to switch it up. i use my vibrator while he fucks my ass, we both get a different experience and both get to cum.

I didn't read any of the thread beyond the first couple replies. Your boyfriend is either addicted to porn or is into some weird fetish shit he can only get from the porn. Either way, dude needs therapy, nofap, or just ditch his ass.

Nah, bro, not interested in anal in the slightest, and seriously doubt she is.

I understand what you're saying though.
I think the porn thing is stupid but thats just my opinion.
i mean he should feel stupid if hes doing it over you and you're trying.
the way you are talking is sexy as hell though i aint even gonna lie.
you shouldnt have to pleasure yourself when you are with someone, like i said earlier sex is important.
I feel like you got the right attitude about it all it looks like you are for real in love.
is what it is though
.why cause I wanna see her face? shit she looks like her body is banging I just wanna see her face though.
I wanna envision her lips making my dick disappear.

this is the best i got for you :/

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fuck off shill

Holy shit, looks like I entered the thread at the right time

yeah thats too much that is for real you?
i dont believe it lol.
damn how long i been on this thread though?
can you tell which posts are me?

wow. your boyfriend has shit taste for not wanting to be inside you all the time.

Your boyfriend is a mega faggot for not railing you 24/7. Ditch the volcel to his porn.

Your boyfriend doesn't deserve someone as beautiful as you good Lord

it means so much to hear this shit, for real. i hate to admit how much im starving for it, its really hard being so in love with someone and having to work so hard to find that desire returned.

im glad you stuck around :-)

I wouldn't be able to keep my dick out of you. Your bf is a faggot.

i'm sure it's a complex situation that can't totally be explained through the layer of separation that is the internet, but it really seems like it's not you, it's him- so if anything, I hope you don't beat yourself up about this.

Do you need someone to talk to? Just to let shit out?

Look at these thirsty motherfuckers. She's not gonna fuck you.

lol thats what i been trying to say anyway it shouldn't be any more than "hey baby im having an issue with this and that" and yall work the shit out.
if someone loved you it wouldn't be you constantly begging and never getting what you need.
I have learned expectations are a mother fucker though.
Shit now I am kind of glad I stuck around too.

Sometimes all someone needs is a heart to heart. Not everything is about sex

its insanely complex, and not at all something that can be watered down to “lul my bf doesnt fuck me enough”

im such a physical person. i have been since i started sexual activities and started dating boys, i wanted touched and desired and jerked off to and fantasized about. my boyfriend is someone ive know for years, someone ive loved for years who ive finally been given the chance to love wholly like this in a romantic relationship. i dont want sex to ruin us. but it isnt just sex to me, sex isnt just an activity or a bodily function.

as stupid as it might be, thats where i feel loved. the bedroom. the shower. the floor. being touched and appreciated and shown raw and real emotion through bodies. i have an insanely high libido, i try to make my body perfect for him, i try to get into what hes into to get him sexually active with me.

i hate fighting for it. i hate changing myself for sex. i hate begging and begging and begging to be shown what i feel is love. lol

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Wait a second. Abbie? Abbie, is that you?

just admit you want to cheat on him- you can keep the love/emotional aspect of the relationship, while being sexually fulfilled on the side.
this is so typical of every woman.

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>Physical affection being your love language
>Literally looking to be fucked to show they care
Seriously, if you ever have to beg for your guy to fuck you, something is up with him. Ditch the dude, you'll find thousands more willing to take his place. Just look at all the horny posters in here trying to get your contact/nudes.

It really isn't complex at all.
I get it completely.
Sex is extremely important to me also, has been my entire life.
When you have amazing sex with someone you can make a real connection that is how I have always shown love is mainly physical i know it sounds fucked up to most but it is what it is.

Love is different for everyone. Just cause your definition doesn't match his it doesn't mean you're wrong. Have you tried telling him all this? Letting everything be known?

im afraid to. im afraid of things not working out with him. ive never loved someone like this, really, honestly, im so incredibly happy, its STRICTLY our sex life that is suffering.

Wouldn't you say it's better to let it out before it begins to boil over? Suffering in silence is no way of solving a problem. You got to be aggressive in order to keep that which you love and hold dear

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Yeah actually I was genuinely interested in the discussion then got sidetracked and kind of liked op mainly from the way she was talking, she is the type of girl who is probably freaky as fuck but shy at the same time, shit gets my dick hard though.
hell op probably aint even here at this point.

i guess so. next time we see each other, ill sit down and be honest.

man fuck you guys this sucks. i didnt expect all this from this thread

you right! i pride myself in how soft and gentle i come off at face value. glad someone appreciates it lol.

Hope it goes well! Would love some future updates too lol do you have an Instagram or social media of any kind?

I want to talk to you directly now though so I am just wasting my time with this.

drop discords lol.

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This nigga is fucking dumb. Your boyfriend is obviously being selfish and doesnt care if you get off. Tell him that youre ok if he likes to jerk off sometimes but he if he is gonna do it he needs to give you oral or some shit so you get off too.

MarkyMarx

No u

thread dead I just want to exchange pics with op and show her my dick and look at her body so we can masturbate together lol

you still there?

I hope this girl posts more on Yea Forums lol. would be pretty cool to have a girl with nice tits who posts a lot

No guy attracted to a chick gives up pussy /ass/mouth. He wants something else.

Op idk what all these dudes are talking about after I fuck/play with my gf all I wanna do is cuddle with her and tell her things that make her smile. It's cringe but it's true, but it also depends if I'm "done" or not, sometimes I keep going with her, sometimes I jack with her helping me, sometimes up to 5 times, and that has been a barrier before.

Op I have the opposite problem that's been kinda solved recently, I told her I didn't like her saying no to me so often since I have such a high libido, and she told me that she needs to be trained.

How do I train her into a sex craved slut, Yea Forums, op? No memes.

A little background: she loves being tied up, is submissive, rapeplay, fucking, cuckqueaning/cucking (talking about dudes/girls she wants to fuck/wants me to fuck, nothing further, though expressed interest). The other day I tied her up with a vibrator for hours on end and she didn't have any problem denying anything I did then, not even fucking her on her period (which she is usually grossed out by, and I'm completely okay with)

its not hard bro just dominate her.
dont be scared to tell her what to do and to get up close and personal when you are fucking her..
say crazy shit while you're fucking her like "you're working hard on that dick aint you baby, " tell her shes your little slut whatever the fuck comes to mind..
degrade her but not too much like treat her like a slut but like your own personal slut and no one elses.
constantly remind her that she is yours and you own that pussy.
its really easy actually all girls or most girls like this.
they love to submit and feel like they belong to you and only you.

Literally all you have said I have already done but it's hard to get over the fact that she is doing it for me as a chore and not because she genuinely loves it, and I'm wondering if it's possible to get her there or if these feelings will remain, I'll get what I want, and she goes out of her way to please me. I want it to get to the point where I don't have to ask her for a blowjob and she just gets down on her knees and gives me a blowjob without asking. Up until now we've never done the "hey I did this thing for you I require sex in return" and it feels dirty to do something like that now. And then sometimes I want to cum multiple times but I feel like I'm making her suffer from even just asking her to make me cum once so I stop there and jerk off without her after (which is fine, but could be better with her, she's better than jerking off at this point)

I know it's a long as fuck rant that probably barely makes sense but how do I train her, specifically? I've recently done like a sexual act a day so she gets used to it, lots of foreplay, guiding her with principles such as "a submissive doesnt just lay in bed and wait, she actively looks to please her dominant but within his boundries" but she usually doesn't want to cum, just makes me cum and boom there goes the switch, she's done.

I should probably make a new thread since this one is gonna die, my own threads usually don't last long though since I don't bump them, tips for keeping a thread alive?

its a conditioning thing man, it has to be consistent and it doesnt matter if it is seen as a chore or not what does matter is the results..
seems like you are doing shit right but you need to work on the fact that when you cum she is done..
other than that just be consistent and don't let up

Fair enough but what else can I do? Command her to cum too constantly until she does it herself?

I mean theres obvious progression, not too long ago she never wanted to be punished sexually yet earlier today she was really rude to me, thought about it for a bit, said she was sorry, and asked to be punished, I pinched her clit and asked her to blow me since we were over at my parents house I couldn't do more than that.

I guess it's more that I'm new to this and don't really know where to turn since this gets a little rapey even though she consented, trying to make sure I do it right

>coming from newfag

there is no right way to do it and you're not supposed to let her cum anyway until you are ready the whole point is to pleasure you not her..
you keep it going and then once you finally want her to cum do whatever you feel is the best way to do that..
there is no way to do it dont look for guidelines just do what works for the both of you.

I personally dont get into the shit I just like fucking my girl straight up and making her cum as much as i can i dont really get into that aspect i just like making her feel like shes my personal little fuck toy while we are fucking and then when we are done we go back to normal life

And how did you achieve that? What was your training with her like at the beginning? The talks? That's what I'm interested in

I love fucking my wife, that said... When I fuck her, I want her to have a good time. If I'm just trying to bust a nut, I'll beat off. No point in fucking her, if I'm not planning on getting her off, and I just need a quick nut.

Could be that he just isn't physically attracted to you. I have a female friend of mine that fool around with occasionally. Great girl her personality is fantastic but physically, she doesn't do it for my and whenever she wants to fool around I basically have to force it. I've seen a lot of other serious answers in here that could be it though.

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no training needed.. its just how i fuck man I get really into it and I start saying things and just start taking control..
ive found that the most intense thing for us is eye contact.. on multiple occasions we have looked each other in the eyes and just both came at had an extremely satisfying sensation throughout our entire bodies I felt it and she felt it at the same time and since we didnt stop with eye contact we both noticed it on each other and that intensified it even further..
you just have to get into it and pay attention to her and dont be scared confidence in the sack goes a long fucking way.

also if i am trying to just have a quickie i would still rather fuck my girl than beat my dick lol..
From my experience girls like to get their guys off anyway and would rather do it for them than have them jack off...
plus even with quickies or sex in general its hard for me to bust a nut unless i get into it and I require that she perform a certain type of way before i can actually get off..
I need to see the enjoyment in her body language her moans and her eyes before i can even really get off right..
sometimes my girl can fucking make me cum by looking at me while im fucking her in a certain type of position. its kind of fun actually.
this being said a general rule of thumb here is almost all girls like men to take charge, make eye contact and talk dirty..
do all 3 and shes yours..
its never been wrong for me and my experience with virtually every girl i have been with.
I have been with girls who are completely uncomfortable to begin with but once we get into it i get them to get so into it they are saying and doing shit they initially were uncomfortable with and they are fucking loving every second of it.

So I guess what you’re saying is you eat bullshit exclusively, cuz you’re full of it.

OP, have you 110% established that you are, in fact, dating a real human. because anything with ≥20IQ points and shitty vision would be begging to touch you, let alone fuck you, 25/8/366
on a real note, there is someone out there that wants you. i mean everything, someone that wants your love, affection, flaws, imperfections, sex, cuddling, etc etc. you have someone now that may be that person, but just isn't expressing it correctly. my advice would be to really plant your feet, say "this is going to happen this way, and you're gonna like it, or you're gonna lose me" and see what he does, don't make him your slave (or do idk i'd be your slave tbh) but there is someone that will do that for you, and you'll be content reciprocating, because you guys really love each other, don't lose hope just yet, but keep an open mind : )

Tits or gtfo.

Great job boys we cucked op’s bf

man he was cuck before it even started

Wow, great tits.
Telling you right now, if your bf don't wanna fuck you when you offer there's something wrong with him. Find someone who would absolutely wreck you every day like everyone here or also any normal fucking person.
If you really want to try and save the relationship, be honest. Tell him you have these concerns. Express how serious it is. If it doesn't get better move on. Girl's got needs.

It"s not a question of "why he does it".
The question is why do you stay with him ?
You may have a good reason.
But "why stay" ?

Captain, we have spotted a cringe betawhale seeking for leftovers!!

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Sexual happiness is essential to any healthy relationship. Biggest causes of divorce are finances and fidelity. If one of the 2 are not satisfied in the sack, cheating will become a reasonable option regardless of how much you love them.

op gone

OP, you still here? one last tits b4 we go asleep?

WTF??? r u TayTay?