I have a solution to the incel problem, and to the problem of sexual frustration in general: legalize prostitution

I have a solution to the incel problem, and to the problem of sexual frustration in general: legalize prostitution.

I'd like to see a brothel on every street corner. Instead of making fun of men that can't get laid I want to see them give the world the middle finger and say "Fuck you, I can get laid".

It would also strip women of the power to withhold sex to get things they want. If any man can just to down the street and get his rocks off whenever he wants, why in the fuck would it put up with his wife/girlfriends bullshit in the hopes that he MIGHT get laid later on.

Women will fight this tooth and nail, however, because it will dispatch them from their "place" as sexual gatekeepers and remove their bargaining chip in order to get what they want.

We need to start the prostitution revolution. Remove the stigma from men who can't get laid by making it impossible for them NOT to get laid. We need to help these frustrated people instead of ridiculing them, that's why we see these outbreaks of violence.
These men feel like no women want them and nobody is on their side because all they get from society is ridicule and the implicit idea that "There's something wrong with you"

What you think Yea Forums?

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Um, the "incel problem" isn't that they can't get laid, so prostitution won't fix it. The problem is that they are people who hate women almost as much as they hate themselves. They're just projecting their depression outwards on women. People who are incels today could fuck every day from here until they die, and they'll still be "problems" for society, because they suck.

Prostitution is legal in most of Europe. Take germany fir example. Still people do not fuck prostitutes.

Don't you think this hatred of women is due to the fact that women have denied them sex?

Those people are called pussies. If you want to get laid, go out and fuck a hooker if that's your only option.

I'm sick of people who want to whine and cry that they can't get laid but won't take any steps to make that happen.

Prostitution offers a clear cut, easy, repeatable way to get laid each and every time, so how much more simple could it be.

Women use sex (and the denial of sex) in order to get what they want and to get ahead in life.

I want to strip this power away from "normal' women and make it impossible for them to get their way by withholding sex. I want men to be able to laugh in their faces and say "Ok, well I"ll just go down to the whore house and get my rocks off if you don't wanna put out."

If more men are willing to do this, women will be powerless.

Or you know, just maybe, most women, if not all, are subhuman manipulative skanks. Idk why people white knight women so hard when it's a blatant problem with them. There's always a reason for peoples actions and it isn't always because of themselves.

Yes I understand that, and I want to reduce women to their only valuable asset, their bodies, and put a set price on all of them.

Whores are better than regular women because a whore has acknowledged her worth and put a price on it. A regular woman is just a whore in denial with an inflated ego who thinks they are so special.

Prostitution is fully legal in Australia. There still incels here

It's deeper than that. They feel insecure and hurt from not only the occasional rejection from a female, but more importantly the expected rejection and self hate they have of themselves. Sex would only quell their pent up anger and confusion for a brief period. They want intimacy but aren't willing to change their social practice because they simply can't recognize or understand social norms and they feel hurt because of it

Bro. If you seriously think that, then yes, women have power over you lmao. If a women every manipulates me with denial of sex, I'm out haha.

The incel problem and most problems regarding coupling and dating in the modern world comes from a few discrete sources: porn for men, feminism for women, and the internet in general are the cause of these problems but it all stems from an underlying sense of entitlement. Too few bullies. Too few beatings. A generation soft in the head. Most of you here are no better in spite of humoursly unbelievable posts to the contrary.

I frankly think this whole social convention and mating rituals surrounding sex are bullshit. It's just going through the motions because "that's what you're supposed to do" and women think that that somehow makes them not a whore.

The only difference between dating and prostitution is direct payment (cash) vs indirect payment (time, effort, dates, etc.)

I don't understand this shit that people say about having a "sense of entitlement"

Let me put it this way, if I have money, and there's a women who wants to fuck for money, then aren't I "entitled" to sex at that point? I have the means to make it happen, then it should happen.

I think this whole "feeling entitled" thing is just a way for women to turn the blame around against men instead of acknowledging that the problem lies with women.

They have no motivation to change either, that's why I say legalize prostitution. Make it so every man can get his rocks off whenever he wants.

Prostitution is legal where I live and I'm still an incel. The problem isn't that I can't stick my dick in a pussy, it's that I can't have a relationship because I'm too ugly to be attractive.

Lol, I never said anything pro/con about prostitution. If you think mating is stupid and pointless, go ahead, buy your sex. Every country on this Earth has venues for this if you look hard enough.

Just don't be surprised when you want sex reciprocated because of your character and connection, rather than the money in your wallet, and get flatly denied, because you have no game.

Why do you even want a relationship if women are that shallow?

I've reduced women to exactly what I want to get out of them, no strings or bullshit attached, and no dishonesty on my part by pretending to be something I"m not.

I'm way more honest than a player who feeds women a line of shit in order to get into their pants. But women like the player douchebag more because women are stupid.

Hookers are everywhere and incels still exist. It is not about sex, it is about being wanted for sex.

I'd love to see brothels though. Not for the incels but for disabled people. They have their needs and many don't have a chance to go out and get an orgasm.

Yeah tell your wife your gonna cheat on her. I'm sure that'll go smoothly

Again, this whole notion of "game" is bullshit.

Sex is not a game to me, and it pisses me off that women try and make a game out of it. I don't have time to play games, try to say the right things and deal with a fickle womans bullshit.

I want to show up, hand her money, she lays down and lets me do as I please, and I leave to go live my own life the way I see fit, without wasting my time with "game" in the "hope" that I'll get laid.

Seems like a waste of time to me. If I put in that kind of effort, I want a for sure reward.

Damn, you lonely mother fuckers have obviously never been in love.

Feedback really impacts sex, bud, missing out, but what can you do. You work all day to pay a woman for an hour of her time. About as beta as it gets.

It's nothing more than a drug induced illusion, but you can't get your head around it so you think it is more than that. Just like all the other religious idiots.

It's better than wasting hours of my time dealing with a woman's bullshit all the time. And even then that's no guarantee that I'll get laid.

No thanks, I'll go with the for sure thing.

It's just dudes rejection so pent up their egos can no longer handle it. So now anything related to companionship/ love/ dating is seen as a waste since they pertain to an unreachable goal. Kinda funny to watch though

Im an incel and the idea of fucking a woman i just met scares the hell out of me. And where i live there are brothels everywhere.

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You're just a pussy

Sure, I get nervous when I go meet up with a new girl, but that's part of the thrill isn't it?

I think it's amazing to thing "Hey I just met this girl 5 minutes ago and now we're fucking" Best of all she doesn't know my name, doesn't know where I live, and isn't going to come and fuck up my life. I call her and agree to meet when I wanna fuck and that's it.

How much better could it get?

Incels were never meant to have sex. They are supposed to live out their lonely lives in the basement

I can't stand this attitude at all. Every man deserves to have sex, I want to put a system in place to where every man CAN have sex, despite women's best efforts to deny it to him.

Yeah that sounds shitty. I'd be upset if I didnt get my free routine head in the morning and fuck my routine free pussy throughout the day.
>inb4 it's not free
My wife makes 80k a year yet she still has to ask me when she wants to buy herself anything that isnt groceries. But yeah it sucks I'd rather pay to have sex.

Dude lmao. You wont take away women's "power" with sex by legalizing prostitution. Like the other user said, if you think like that. Then women will always have power over you. I learned by experience that not caring and not chasing sex like a simp takes that power away from women. Not letting women push you around is what takes their power away. You incels think to much of sex. I pity you incels. This is why women see through you so easily.

You already are paying for it, you're just in denial.

Every man pays for sex one way or another.

IF SEX WAS LEGALIZED I WOULD BE ABLE TO GET A GIRFLFRIEND THIS IS WHY GIRLS WILLL NOT HAVE SEX WITH ME BUT IF PROSTITUTION BECOMES LEGAL I CAN HAVE A GIRLFRIEND

Listen idiot, brothels exist right now. And you idiot incels don't go to them, because you don't even try finding them. And guess what else, you idiot incels don't even try talking to women, so stop fucking making these dumb posts about incel culture, and stop talking about it, it doesn't exist.

See this
maybe in the next life you'll have it better

FEMALES LIKE BEING TREATED LIKE SHIT I WORSHIP THEM AND GIVE THEM EVERYTHING AND THEY JUST TELL ME TO GO AWAY AND BLOCK MY NUMBER BECAUSE THEY ARE SHALLOW AND ONLY WANT ATTRACTIVE CHADS WHO TREAT THEM LIKE SHIT I KNOW THIS IVE HAD SO MUCH EXPERIENCE WITH THIS A GRIL CAN NOT LOVE AN UGLY GUY I HAVE LEARNED THIS AND I AM UGLY AND NO WOMEN HAVE EVER LIKED ME AND TELL ME TO GO AWAY I FUCKIN HATE HOW SHALLOW FEMALES ARE

That's another problem I have with this whole dating thing. Women cannot stand men that are direct. That's why every piece of advice on sex I've read says "Act like you don't care about sex and you'll get sex" Sounds like the dumbest shit I've ever heard.

These stupid mind games women like to play are not worth my time, and I don't have the patience to deal with that kinda shit.

If women want to make sex this nebulous thing that you can't go about getting directly, I'm not going to waste my time with them. I'll go to an honest women who doesn't play those kind of games.

WHATS WITH ALL OF THESE SLUTS THIS IS WHY Yea Forums SHOULD BAN WOMEN THEY CONTRIBUTE NOTHING TO THIS WEBSITE OR TO ME HOW THE FUCK AM I SUPPSOED TO FIND A GIRLFRIEND IF NOT OF THEM WILL DATE ME BECASE IM UGLY I HATE WOMEN SO MUCH WHY WONT THEY JUST GIVE ME A CHANCE
IM NOT AN INCEL IVE JUST NEVER HAD SEX BECAUSE WOMEN DONT GIVE ME A CHANCE I AM SO TIRED OF WOMEN WALKING OVER ME WHEN EVER I DO ANYTHING NICE FOR THEM THEY TREAT ME LIKE SHIT IM JUST GOING TO GIVE UP AND START TREATING THEM LIKE SHIT MAYBE THEYLL ACTUALLY LIKE ME BECAUSE THEY SEEM TO LIKE GUYS WHO TREAT THEM LIKE SHIT

Whats the illusion in genuinely liking someone to the point where you'd want to protect them?

ID GIVE ANYTHING FOR THE ATTENTION OF A LADY ANYTHING ALL THE MONEY IN THE WORLD I CRAVE WOMEN SO MUCH YET I HATE THEM EVEN MORE I JUST WISH I COULD CARASS A SPECIAL LADYS BREAST BUT I DONT THINK THAT DAY WILL COME I HATE MY LIFE WHY CANT I GET WOMEN SEX SHOULDNT BE DETERMINED BASED ON APPERANCE FUCK I WANNA SMASH
THEY SHOU;LLD VALUE HOW SMART I AM AND HOW NICE I AM TO THEM AND HOW FUNNY I AM AND HOW TALL I AM BUT THEY DONT CARE BECAUSE IM UGLY I HATE WOMEN THEY ARE SO STUPID THEY NEVER GIVE ME A CHANCE THEY ARE SO SHALLOW WHY CANT I GET A BEAUTIFUL WOMAN

IVE TRIED IMPROVING MY GROMMING BUT IT IS HARD AND TAKES A LOT OF TIME I DONT HAVE A PERSONALITY DEFECT AND I DO BRUSH MY TEETH YET OBVIOUSLY WOMAN CARE ABOUT MY UGLIENSS MORE THAN ME BRUSHING ME TEETH BECAUSE WOMEN ARE STUPID SHALLOW AND USLESS ONLY FOR FUCKING CHADS TO HAVE SEX WITH WOMAN DO NOT LIKE ME BECAUSE IM UGLY THEY FLNCH WHN THEY SEE ME BCAUSE THEY ARE SO SHALLOW WOMEN ARE SO HORRIBLE IM NICE TO THEM BUT THEN THEYLL TELL ME TO LEAVE THEM ALONE AND I KNOW ITS BECAUSSE THEY THINK IM UGLY

I dont agree with you on any of that.
but I dont see why prostitution is illigal.

I DO NOT WANT TO DIE A VIRGIN IDK HOW IM GOING TO GET PUSS BUT I HOPE SOMEDAY ILL FIND A BITCH STUPID ENOUGH TO FUCK I JUST WANT A BEAUTIFUL WOMANS VAGINA AND I DONT WANT SOME UGLY SKANK BECAUSE THAT DOESNT COUNT

I HAVENT SLEPT WITH ANY WOMEN AND I DONT WANT TO SLEEP WITH AN UGLY WOMAN I AM NOT GOING TO DOWNGRADE MYSLEF TO THAT I KNOW MY WORTH I DESERVE A BEAUTIFUL QUEEN WHO I CAN TAKE CARE OF AND WORHSHIP BUT ALL THE PRETTY GILS HATE ME SO I WILL PROBABLY NEVER HAVE SEX IM SO MAD

the solution to the incel problem is good fathers, good mothers, and great families

incels come from a lack of proper male role models and divorced mothers

I HAVE TRIED TO IMPROVE MY LIFE I STARTED GROOMING BY BRUSHING MY TEETH BUT WOMEN STILL IGNORE AND AVOID ME THEY THINK IM DISGUSTING EVENTHO I GROOM BECAUSE IM UGLY I HATE WOMEN THEY ARE ALL WRETCHED CREATURES AND HAVE RUINED MY LIFE. BECAUSE OF WOMEN I CAN NOT GET A JOB FUCK THEM

ITS NOT FAIR I DESERVE SEX FROM A BEAUTIFUL WOMN IM NICE AND SMART AND FUNNY WOMEN ARE SO SHALLOW THEY WONT FUCK ME CAUSE IM UGLY I HATE IT I HATE IT I HATE IT

Same fag.
If you found a chick that fucks you good, makes you laugh, can do cool activities with, etc, then Im sure you'd be in the same "illusion".

Nightly Yea Forums fap material

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BEACUSE I CANT HAVE SEX WITH WOMEN I NO LONGER HAVE A JOB THATS RIGHT I GOT FIRED BECAUSE OF A WOMAN BECAUSE WOMEN ARE SHALLOW AND WONT SLEEP WITH ME BECAUSE IM UGLY

are you an incel if you just dont want to talk to people?

You’re the fucking shallow one !

I MIGHT MOVE TO JAPAN MY LEGAL RECORD WOULDNT FOLLOW ME THERE AND I COULD GET A JOB WITH MY DEGREE AND WOMEN THERE LIKE MEN FOR MORE THEN THEIR LOOKS AND MONEY I COULD FIND REALLY CUTE JAPANESE FEMALE TO LOSE MY VIRGINITY TO THEY LIKE GUYS LIKE ME THEIR WHY DID I HAVE TO BE BORN IN AMERICA FUCK
IN JAPAN JAPANESE FEMALES ACTUALLY FIND WHITE MEN VERY ATTRACTIVE I WOULDNT BE COMPETEING WITH ANY STUPID CHADS I WOULD HAVE A CHANCE AND THEY LIKE ANIME SO THEY WOULD DEFINITELY WANT TO HAVE SX WITH ME

This man... has mastered the art of the blade...

NO I WILL NOT LOWER MY STANDARDS I KNOW MY WORTH AND WOMEN SHOULD KNOW MY WORTH TOO BUT THEY ARE TOO SHALLOW AND STUPID TO UNDERSTAND I DESERVE A BEAUTIFUL LADY NOT SOME DUMB SKANK ALSO I DO THINK WOMEN OWE ME SOMETHING AT LEAST THE ONES IVE BEEN NICE TO, BUT THEY JUST AVOID ME AND TELL ME TO GO AWAY I DONT TREAT THEM LIKE OBJECTS BUT I WILL STOP BEING NICE TO THEM SINCE IT GETS ME NO WHERE

I THINK ITS BECAUSE THEY DONT LIKE BEING TREATED NICE MOST BEAUTIFUL SKANKS LIKE BEING TREATED LIKE SHIT BY THEIR CHAD BOYFRIENDS IM NOT A FUCKING CREEP YOU SOUND JUST LIKE THE SHALLOW WOMEN I DEAL WITH EVERYDAY WHO CALL ME A CREEP BECAUSE IM UGLY AND ASKED THEM ON DATE

STFU you fucking loser

WHY DO I HAVE TO LOVE WOMEN WHY CANT I JUST BE GAY I HATE WOMEN SO MUCH THEY ARE THE REASON I LOST MY JOB BECAUSE THEY DIDNT LIKE ME ASKING THEM OUT BECAUSE IM UGLY FUCK YOU WLADIES OUT THERIR THEY OWE ME A JOB AND SOME SEX

IT REALLY IS THEIR FAULT I DONT HAVE A JOB THE WOMEN AT MY LAST JOB GOT ME FIRED BECAUSE I WAS TOO UGLY FOR THEM THEY WERE ALL FUCKING SKANKS ANYWAYS WHO HAD CHAD BOYFRIENDS I WAS JUST TRYING TO SHOW THEM SOMETHING BETTER SOMETHING NOT ABUSIVE BUT NO THEY ALL JUST LIKE BEING MISTREATED BY THEIR CHAD HUSBANDS

Shallow Hal detected. What a fucking loser.

I KNOW MY LEGUE AND I KNOW IM WORTH THE ATTENTION OF A BUEATIFUL FEMALE BUT FEMALES ARE SO FUCKING SHALLOW AT LEAST MOST OF THEM THEY SHOULD GIVE ME ATTENTION AT LEAST ITS NOT MY FAULT MOST WOMEN ARE SLUTS

Sounds like what an incel or someone with a lack of social skills would say.

Men and women who cant have platonic relationships with the opposite sex are complete human trash.

I like it

these are pretty great. this is what makes a guy pay for sex

I suppose there is a reason you have a legal history. Just from everything that you wrote you seem like a rapist

Don't see how I'm shallow. I'm being 100% honest.

Does the truth hurt too much for you?

You all must hang out with some of the most boring ass bitches. Maybe stop talking to white women. teehee

Who the fuck says not caring means playing games. I fully mean not giving a fuck. Meaning not giving a fuck about playing games. Not giving a fuck about chasing women means you're not going to waste time playing games to get in their pants either. I'm open to women about how I really dont give a fuck about where dating them leads to. I'm open about not giving a fuck about having a relationship or getting sex. There is no game to play when youre not giving a fuck, so I dont know where you get "playing games" from. Bullshit that women cant stand men who are direct. I've been direct ever since 2016 and its given me better results ironically than it did when I was a simp chasing women and chasing sex. And none of this is based off hatred for women either. Stop caring so much about sex and you'll see better results. I dont even have a Chad face either and I dont fare too bad.

Again, does the truth hurt too much for ya?

this fuckin thread

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I CANT JUST ASK A GIRL OUT BECAUSE I KEEP TRYING THAT ANDTHEY ALL JUST TELL ME TO LEAVE THEM ALONE WOMEN HATE ME BECAUSE IM UGLY HOW IS THAT MY PROBLEM

my g shit does not need to be legal to be accessible. ever bought drugs? or go to nevada its already legal in some cities

FUCK YOU ITS WOMENS FAULT I HAD TO GO TO JAIL FOR A YEAR 2 YEARS AGO FUCK THEM THEY DONT LIKE WHEN I MAKE THE SAME MOVES THEIR CHAD BOYFRIENDS MAKE WHY CANT WOMEN JUST GIVE ME A CHANCE IM NICE SMART TALL AND FUNNY

IM SMART AND NICE AND FUNNY SO THEREFORE IM WORTH THAT OF A BEAUTIFUL WOMAN BUT FEMALES ARE SO STUPID THEY JUST AVOID ME BECUASE IM UGLY BEFORE GETTING TO KNOW ME

EXPECTING SEX FROM A WOMAN BECAUSE IM NICE TO THEM IS NOT CREEPY AT ALL ITS HOW LIFE IS SUPPOSED TO WORK BUT BECAUSE OF FEMINISM AND PEOPLE LIKE HILLARY CLINTON THINGS GOT SCREWED UP AND NOW FEMALES ARE SHALLOW AND HATE ME I DESERVE A BEAUTIFUL WOMENS AFFECTON BECAUSE I AM VERY NICE TO THEM

why have you written yourself off as inable to attain a girl through normal means

WOMEN ARE MEANT TO BE WORSHIPPED AND TREATED LIKE GODDESS WHEN I CAN DO SO, FEMINISM CORRUPTED EVERTHING THOUGH

Goverment issued waifus!!!

HOW WAS I SUPPOSED TO KNOW THEY HAD NO INTEREST IN ME ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE IM ALSO NOT AN INCEL IM NOT ONE OF THOSE WHINEY BITCHES BUT HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO KNOW THEY WULDNT WANT ME IM PRETTY SURE MOSET OF THE WOMEN I WORKED WITH WERE FUCKING THOT SLUTS SO I DONT SEE APROBALEM WITH ASKING THOSE FEMALES FOR SEX AT WORK THEY SHOULDNT ACT LIKE THOTS IF THEY DONT WANT MY ATTENTION ITS THEIR FAULT I WAS FIRED FROM MY LAST JOB I HATE CHAD SUCKING FEMALES

> (You)
>Who the fuck says not caring means playing games. I fully mean not giving a fuck. Meaning not giving a fuck about playing games. Not giving a fuck about chasing women means you're not going to waste time playing games to get in their pants either. I'm open to women about how I really dont give a fuck about where dating them leads to. I'm open about not giving a fuck about having a relationship or getting sex. There is no game to play when youre not giving a fuck, so I dont know where you get "playing games" from. Bullshit that women cant stand men who are direct. I've been direct ever since 2016 and its given me better results ironically than it did when I was a simp chasing women and chasing sex. And none of this is based off hatred for women either. Stop caring so much about sex and you'll see better results. I dont even have a Chad face either and I dont fare too bad.

FEMALES GIVE SEX TO GUYS WHO LIKE HER ALL THE TIME AS ALONG AS THEY ARE NOT UGLY THAT WHY ALL FEMALES ARE THOTS I KNOW HOW TO RELATE TO WOMEN TOO I HAVE A SISTER SO FEMALES SHOULD BE NICER TO ME BECAUSE IM NICE TO THEM

you're not a pussy.

i don't fuck women i just met - ever. i court them for a few weeks. date them for like 4 years. fuck them daily in that duration. youre on the right path

IM NOT GOING TO LIMIT MYSELF TO SINGLE WOMEN WHO KNOWS I COULD HELP A LUCKY FEMALE LEAVE AN ABUSIVE RELATIONSHIP WOMEN CHEAT ON THEIR HUSBANDS ALL THE TIME BECAUSE FEMALES ARE THOTS ALL FEMALES ARE ON THE TABLE FOR ME I DONT DISCRIMINATE BASED ON MARITAL STATUS I DONT DESVER TO BE FIRED I WORKED HARDER THEN ALL THOSE FEMALES COMBINED BUT BECAUSE OF STUPID MODERN FEMINISM WOMEN HAD TO BE OFFENDED BY ME APPROACHING THEM AND REPORTED ME TO MY BOSS WHO FIRED ME I HATE FEMALES DONT COME CRYING TO ME WHEN THEY DO THE SAME THING TO YOU

FEMALES CAN CHOSE NOT TO FUCK ME AND STILL BE SLUTS AT THE SAME TIME THEY JUST FUCK ALL THE STUPID FUCKING CHAADS WHICH IS DISGUSTING AND WHY THEY ARE SLUTS

IM ACTUALLY REALLY SMART I HAVE A COLLEGE DEGREE

IT IS HOW LIFE WORKS WOMEN BEFORE FEMINISH ALWAYS SLEPT WITH THE NICE GUY LOOK AT SOME HITSORY BOOKS RETARD

Prostitution and drugs should be legal nation wide
Fuck you and your “G” shit

ITS NOT FUCKING STUPID MOST RELATIONSHIPS FORM BETWEEN COWORKERS AT WORK PLUS IM PRETTY SURE MY FEMALE COWORKERS SLEPT WITH ALL MY CHAD COWORKERS SO IT WASNT OUT OF THE QUESTION TO ASK THEM FOR SEX

I agree entirely, op.

I frequented brothels often when I was stationed overseas. Sometimes on a Friday or Saturday night I would just go to the whorehouse rather than the bar. Cut out all the bullshit and have a 3some for 100 euros.

They need that shit in the states. It would forever put women in their place to know that men can just go buy some action instead of having to jump though hoops for it.

THATS BECAUSE THE FEMALES I USED TO WORK WITH GOT ME FIRED SO NOW I KNOW NO WOMEN AND NOT EVEN MY SISTER WILL TALK TO ME ANYMORE I FUCKING HATE FEMALES THEY ARE SO DEVIEANT

IM ACTUALLY VERY LIBERAL THE ONLY THING I AGREE WITH TRUMP IS HIS VIEWS ON WOMEN I KIND OF ASPIRE TO BE LIKE HIM HE IS UGLY YEY GETS SO MANY WOMEN

HONESTLY I WISH PEOPLE HERE WOULD LISTEN TO ME AND JUST GIVE ME ADVICE I DONT KNOW WHAT IM DOING WRONG I DID EVERYTHING RIGHT WITH THESES LADIES BUT THEY JUST AVOID ME AND TELL ME TO LEAVE THEM ALONE HOW DO I STOP THESE FEMALES FROM LEAVING ME

Yes let's take this to Congress!

Because doing it through "normal means" requires some level of dishonesty and deception, and I"m an honest man.

I don't want to deal with a woman's bullshit and mind games, I just want to play with her body, touch her wherever I want, fuck her and leave.

No strings attached, no bullshit, no pretending to like them and listening to their innane stories. Just wham, bam, thank you ma'am.

SO WHEN DID Yea Forums FILL UP WITHREDDITNG LIBERALS FUCK YOU WHITE KNIGHTS DEFENDING FEMALES YOU HAVE ALL PROBABLY NEVER GOTTEN PUSSY AT LEAST I HAVE A SISTER SO I HAVE TALKED TO WOMEN BEFORE YOU ALL SUCK

Faggot

Incel detected.

4CAHN IS ALL FEMALES FUCKING FEMALE WEEBS FUCK YOU IM SO FUCKING ANGRY HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO FIND A JOB WITH BEING FIRED AND GOING TO JAIL ON MY RECORD ALL BECASE OF THESE STUPID FEMALES WHO CANT HANDLE MY ADANCES

IS ANYONE IN THIS THREAD ACTUALLY GOING TO DO SOMETHING USEFUL I CAME INTO THIS THREAD TO VENT BECAUSE THE OP WAS TALKING ABOUT HOW SHALOOW FEMALES ARE AND THEN EVERYONE JUST STARTED ATTACKING ME I DONT UNDERSTAND WHY ARE YOU IN THIS THREAD IF YOU HAVE THE OPPOISTE OPINION OF OP FUCK ME

How the fuck do you know? You are wrong

signed

ALL FEMALES ARE DISCUSTING CREATURES WHO ONLY CARE ABOUT LOOKS AND MONEY I WOUKLD HAVE MONEY TOO BUT STUPID WOMEN GOT ME FIRED AND ARRESTED I FUCKING HATE WOMEN THEY WANT MONEY BUT DONT WHEN IT COMES TO THEM

Finally we have a smart person in this thread.

LMAO gay

I DONT EVEN WANT TO GET MARRIED MOST MARRIAGES END UP WITH CHEATING I WANT TO JUST HAVE SEX AND GO ON WITH MY LIFE WANTING TO HAVE SEX HAS HAULTED MY LIFE SO MUCH WOMEN HAVE RUINED ME

Yep

NO I DO NOT WANT TO GET FUCKING AIDS ID RATHER SLEEP WITH A SWEET INNOCENT VIRGIN GIRL THE GIRL HAS TO BE A VIRGIN I WOULD SLEEO WUTH A FUCKING SLUT

I GOT FIRED BECAUSE THOSE DUMB SLUTS WENT AFTER STUPID CHADS AND WANTED NOTHING TO DO WITH ME SO TEHY FIRED ME BUT I REALLY KNOW THEY DID IT BECASE THEY THINGK IM UGLY

I WATCH ANIME AND IT SHOWS SILLLY GUYS GETTING CHICKS ALL THE TIME SO I KNOW GIRLS LIKE SILLY I AM A GENTLEMAN I HOLD DOORS OP FOR FEMALES AND ALWAYS PAY FOR THEIR DINNER AND INCSIST ON HOLDING THEIR HAND

I think that’s introversion

Another incel detected.

When some feminazi and/or one of their SJW white guilt numale closet faggot lapdogs calls you an "INCEL" or use their generic insult "have sex", because they can't form a coherent thought let alone a counter argument, it's because women are nothing more than three holes which is why even the ugliest, fattest, poorest amongst them can get laid whenever they like. Withholding sex from men is the only power they have. Without that they have nothing and are nothing but herpes riddled whores!

And the so-called "men" who use those words are even worse because they're virtue signaling numale cucks who think that they'll get some of that sweet college/university hipster chick pussy when those women will be fucking Chad Thundercock and only settle for them once they're looking to nest with a beta orbiter provider after they're done riding the cock carousel!

No one self-identifies as "involuntary celibate". It's something roasties project onto men who don't put up with women's shit. As if to say "oh, if you had sex you'd agree with me and give in to my demands". This is because women think they can get anything they want with sex and believe this because their white knight lapdogs betas would do anything for a pity fuck!!!FACT!!!

I'd vote for you if you were aiming for us president.

Man you guys are sad as fuck

I’m married and my wife never holds sex against me. Hell she has a higher sex drive than I and makes the move most of time

You say I have to deal with her bullshit... what bullshit? Oh poor me have to come home to a wife that has dinner made and wants to suck my cock at night.

You’re pathetic losers with no personality, how the fuck you going to make human connections with your shit personality anyway right?

You guys deserve to die off in the basement and never reproduce. Lazy Shit DNA

Prostitutes don't give a fuck for your looks. As long as you pay them and treat them respectfully they fuck the hell out you. If you are unable to treat a human being with respect the just kill your self. Money will never be a problem

We're going to read about this MFer on the news one day soon.

Retard that doesn't understand cause and effect

im not sure why you say that i've dated multiple girls for multiple years, up to four, and didn't have to lie or deceive them. i was just patient. i'm relatively attractive i guess but i've learned time nad time again that doesn't really mean much.

if you're full of self loathing it's likely going to come out in your interaction with women and they can smell that- take care of that and then pursue a girl and you will be fine - you do believe that there are normal girls out there who arent sheepish, have original thoughts, aren't irrational, make good partners etc. right?

I say de criminalize prostitution and make it a public health issue. Want to be a sex worker? Fine, you'll be licensed but you need to be subjected to mandatory testing every week and if you fail to comply your license is revoked and if you're caught without one you're going to prison.

You're NEVER going to stop men from wanting sex, so why fight it and try to find a sensible way of dealing with that rather than putting people in jail.

There. Done.

way to expensive

>thinking people won’t just get made fun of for having to pay for sex

I’m pretty sure everyone will still think you’re a loser if you need to pay a prostitute to get laid

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same guy

just wanted to say also if you're still young - like under 24, you have a decent amount of growing to do. your opinoins will change and i guarantee one day you will cringe at the thought of these posts.

i shouldnt say guarantee, i could be wrong. but its likely.

as you age you will gain confidence regardless of whether you want to or not - seek a sense of community (not toxic ones like incel forums and shit, maybe even get the fuck off Yea Forums, find people IRL in communities i dont care which one)

find purpose - find something in life you want to attain and work every day in small ways to attain it.

THEN find love. you will find it.

The problem isn’t with them being unable to get their dick wet, sex isn’t the end all be all OP. It obviously won’t work regardless of how much sex they have. They’ll still think that women are to blame for whatever issue is wrong with themselves.

My man. All these betas convincing themselves that paying for strange is somehow alpha af. I get to fuck my bestfriend whenever I want and she'll go make food afterwards while I browse Yea Forums. It's great.

Most males don’t need to pay females to have sex, you’re just a fucking loser. You incels don’t realize you’re a low percentage of the population

I don't have self-loathing, I have loathing of others.

And no, not really. Women want to "feel" that they're so special and so unique and so not like other women, but that's laughable at best.

People have been failing to get laid for millennia, they've only just started turning into incels.

This would create a bigger issue for any men that don’t have loads of $$$. Every woman would start charging every time

Poor men would be sexless. No women would give it out for free! I get free sex with my charm

Wives would want the next expensive thing in exchange and if her husband says no, she will go charge another man for sex

It's about time people take a stand against it.

People need to give society and women the middle finger and say "Fuck you, I can still get laid if I want to."

Yeah but your loathing of others is based off the social impact they've had on you. So yeah its still self hate on others. And yeah I guess a gal likes to feel special, but who doesnt.

Motherfucker, you don't go to a jail for a year for being creepy or sad. You did something that wasn't legal, and you went to jail for it. You'll also find that it will limit your future professional and romantic prospects. Don't blame anyone else for your fuckup.

well i mean they can be special in that they are the only girl you're courting

meaning, while yes you acknowledge there are other hot girls in the world youd fuck without question - youve chosen only to pursue the one you are

that in itself is really all they care about in terms of special

Both repliers totally btfo by the parent poster's rational argument

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I don't want all the bullshit that goes along with a relationship. I want sex whenever I want sex, and I will not be denied it.

Weak samefag troll

FUCK YOU I AM NOT SOME CRAZYE PERSON YOUR PROBABLY A CHD AND YOUR GF IS A SHALLOW SLUT STACY FUCK YOU IWAS NT TALKING TO YOU I WAS TALKING TO OP SO GO FUCK YOURSLEF
I ACTUALLY HAVE A SISTER SO I DO KNOW FUCK ABOUT WOMEN YOUVE PROBABLY NEVER TALKED TO A WOMAN IN YOUR LIFE

>Why do you even want a relationship if women are that shallow?

I can't fault people for wanting a partner who is physically attractive to them. I want that as well, it's an important part of a relationship, together with mental attraction and emotional compatibility. People settle for less all the time, but it leads to dead bedrooms and resentment down the line. It's better to stay alone than to have a relationship without mutual passion, which is something prostitutes can't offer you either.

I haven't given up yet personally but I wish people would stop assuming that incels are too dumb to realize they can pay for sex.

I meant that I want a romantic sexual relationship, not paid casual sex. I know that prostitutes would service me regardless of my looks.

Incels are retards that think a cute relationship will fix their shitty lives.

FUCK YOU ASSHOLE IT WASNT MY FAULT I WENT TO JAIL AGAINST MY WILL BECAUSE OF STUPID WOMEN SOMEDAY ILL BE ABLE TO TAKE LEGAL ACTION MY MOM DOESNT TALK TO ME SHE WONT TALK TO ME BECAUSE SHES A STUPID BITCH
FUCK YOU YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT MY RELATIONSHIP WITH MY MOM BITCH SHES TOO UGLY FOR ME ANYWAYS

>I'm pretty attractive and women desire me, but let me tell you why being unattractive is not your problem, based on my own experiences

Like fucking clockwork.

I have had sex with 9 different women in my life(nothing crazy). All hot. Never paid for it. Many guys have had more than me. We are all fucking while you frustratingly rant. You dream of sex yet it's part of our normal daily lives.

FUCK YOU WHY ARE YOU BEING MEAN TO ME THIS IS WHY I WANT PROSTITUTION ILLEGAL SO I CAN FINALLY GET A GIRLFRIEND

It's time you live your destiny. Become a fat tranny for bulls on grindr

The only reason women have this power is because you give it to them. You'd do exactly the same in their shoes if it worked. Hypocritical retard.

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>seething

FUCK YOU IM NOT GAY FUCK YOU

>I'd like to see a brothel on every street corner

zoning laws retard. also, i think you have posted this thread enough times already.

um .... no, he isnt. Its legal.

>legalize prostitution
its legal, idiot.
U gonna provide dotations for whore fund?

No, Jethro. YOU did something. Not once have you said, "I went to jail because I was accused of something I did NOT do". You keep blathering that you went to jail because of "stupid women". You were accused of doing something to a woman that wasn't legal, and you were found guilty of the crime of which you were accused. Nut up, shut up, and take some fucking responsibility and agency for your actions and their outcomes.

You're on the right path. But it won't eliminate incels, but it could help curb the most volatile of the group. As people have stated prostitution is legal in other places but incels still exist. The thing they are overlooking is that their incels aren't lashing out like the incels in other locations where prositution is illegal. Think of it like porn. Before porn sexual assault was high as fuck all over. As porn became more readily available sexual assault has gone down. It's still pretty damn high, but there's no denying it has had a pretty big impact.

Sex is a two-way street. Have you ever considered that it's your entitled, egoistical view on an intimate activity that doesn't get you the results you want?

I never understood you people that claim women can fuck any guy they want, and you can't fuck any woman you want, and that it's unfair. There is no scientific evidence to conclude that women are more promiscuous than men, or cheat more. Absolutely none. Most women choose a partner because of their personality and being able to take care of each other. There's way more men who want to just fuck a hole than women who just want to ride a dick. Even if the world were 20% men 80% women, you'd have more men trying to get laid with a complete stranger and no emotional connection than women. The idea that you wouldn't want to be with someone that makes you happy in and outside the bedroom, and discarding someone who makes it evident they're self-centered and only want to fuck you if you were in the woman's shoes is absolutely ridiculous. You're a hypocrite. You only want one thing. They know, they can see your character flaws and desperation. That is the single biggest reason you're not getting a girl. You're not entitled to put your dick into any other person unless there's a mutual agreement. In your case: money.

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Yup, give these men an outlet for their sexual frustrations.

The incels that refuse to go see hookers are just pussies.

What’s wrong? Still stuck in he friendzone?
She’s not gonna fuck you, dude. Stop wasting your time. The only way you’ve ever get in that hole is if she’s shitfaced.

Don’t idolize thots, user. Come with me. Be free.

Thank you. Paying for pussy is honestly whatever. I’ve nailed some prime snatch. Girls who normally wouldn’t look at me twice, but they take that dick when they’re on the clock.

THE WOMEN ARE LIARS THOUGH THEY MADE THE SITUATION WORESE THAN IT ACTUALLY WAS I FUCKING HATE STUPID FUCKING WOMEN

This. I don't want me or a fuckbuddy to get shot up from a public shooter. And honestly I'd fuck a prostitute if I was fucked up enough some weekends. Especially if I was on vacation/visiting

A gay in denial for sure

Germany does this. It works. Theirs might be monthly, though, I’m not sure.

>. No ur getting used up, loose pussy.
>You still dont know what proper pussy feels like
Kek. You don't either you fucking virgin. Sluts can have tight pussies and virgins loose ones

>Not trolling, I sincerely think you have something wrong with you and need therapy.

>Know you won't seek help however because it'd be admitting that hey, there might be something wrong with you.

>Your intense desire to get your carrot wet has clouded your mind so much you've actually gone and put a tremendous amount of thought into the notion of bringing women down to a level where you're standing above them.

>Your obsession seems to be more about power and that desire for sexual dominance can lead you down a dark path.

>Prostitution isn't legal everywhere, being a sugar daddy is, go on a site like seekingarrangement.com and go fishing.

Like I said before, if I have the money, them I AM entitled to sex and will not be denied it.

If a woman wants to play games and make sex this nebulous thing that you have to jump through the right hoops to achieve, no thanks.

I'll go to a hooker that knows her worth and puts a set price on it.

>telling the government to fuck off and stop mandating what I can and can't do is so gay
>let me proceed to throw out a loose pussy myth virgins repeat from high school
Self-hating incels are as cringy as gay Christians

Wow brainiac how did you come to this conclusion before everyone else?

Wealthy men already have prostitutes you dumbfuck

Great. That's your interpretation of what happened. That and a buck will get you a soda. Clearly, a prosecutor, judge, and possibly a jury felt differently.

It sounds to me like you sexually assaulted someone because you touched a woman in a manner she didn't want because you don't know how to read the social cues she was giving you. It doesn't matter whether you saw someone else touch her in the same manner, because you have no idea of whether or not she gave consent to that guy to touch her in that manner.

>Still people do not fuck prostitutes.
Yeah all those prostitutes are just sitting around jobless....

>poor men would be sexless.
As it should be. If you can’t afford to raise a baby you shouldn’t be out making them, Jamal.

I WISH I WAS GAY THEN I COULD GET TF AWAY FRO THEY STUPID FEMALES

FUCK YOU HER HUSBAND TREATS HER LIKE A SLUT SO IM SURE ANYONE CULD TREAT HER LIKE A SLUT SHE DIDNT LIKE ME BECSUSE O UGLY SHES SA FUCKING BITCH

>muh incels

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I get this is obvious b8 you don't need to go down to the street to
>get his rocks off
You can do that shit in your own home you fuckin retard
And I definitely think prostitution should be legal in US, just not for these dumb fucking reasons haha
Also how is noone mentioning all this fucking ledditspacing in OP/the rest of thread. Leave please, we really don't want you here

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Yeah, you pull that attitude with a hooker, and you're lucky if she doesn't shank you or have her pimp make you his bitch for the night. Buying sex is like exchanging money for any other good and service. If you have the money for a Chevy, you're not entitled to a BMW. You pay for a couple of hours, or more likely minutes in your case, with a hooker, you're entitled to exactly what you negotiate with her - a blowjob, a hand job, a titjob, PIV, or PIA. No more. No less.

1. I don't need a therapist to tell me that 99% of people in the world are fucking stupid.

2. There isn't anything wrong with me, the rest of the world is just stupid.

3. I am honest, I know what women have to offer me and seek out just that. Most other men and women are being deceitful.

4. It is about power. I want the power to have sex whenever I want sex. And I've found a way to make that happen, so I am not powerless.

5. I have no desire to be a sugar daddy anymore than I want to "date". Again, if I'm putting forth that kind of effort/money, I want a for sure thing.

>If a woman wants to play games and make sex this nebulous thing that you have to jump through the right hoops to achieve, no thanks.
They're not playing games, they're normal human beings. You and the other incel spastics are trying to make it all about sex.
> if I have the money, them I AM entitled to sex and will not be denied it.
You're also not entitled to shit. Just having money doesn't entitle you to sex. You're only entitled to sex if a woman agrees to have sex with you for money and took it. If there's no hookers to take your money, you're not entitled to absolutely anything.
>I'll go to a hooker that knows her worth and puts a set price on it.
Also, hookers aren't this amazing magical being that "knows their worth". In Germany, where prostitution is legal, they're mostly just imported women from neighbouring shit hole countries who are exploited and never have a life outside the brothel. Most of them aren't doing this by choice, and because it's legal, the police can't help these women who were lured into this life by promises and dreams from criminals. Go fuck yourself for being such a terrible human being.

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Your hand isn't even in the same fucking ballpark as the touch and feel of a woman's body, so anybody that says "Just jerk off" is a fucking idiot. Sounds like something a virgin would say honestly.

That's the same reason why I don't want a pocket pussy or sex doll. I want a living, breathing woman who'll let me do as I please.

She's married to that guy. Marital rape wasn't outlawed in all 50 states until 1993. Regardless of how other men treats her, or how she tolerates that treatment, it doesn't give YOU permission to do anything to her without her express consent. YOU fucked up. This had nothing to do with women. If you can't take responsibility for your own actions, I'm afraid you'll go off the rails like an ER.

wahhh he called me a virgin!
Move to a country where this shit is legal if it's that big a deal to you?
And has self betterment to the point of being able to pick up women easily crossed your mind? (on Yea Forums though, so probably not)

1. It's playing games. They know that the men want sex and they are making a game about whether they're going to get it or not.

2. Yes I am, I will find a girl that'll let me fuck her. Nobody is going to tell me "no".

3.I can't stand this notion that every hooker is some sexually exploited woman that's powerless to escape that life. Are there women like that? Of course.

But I think the vast majority of hookers are doing it because it's an easy way to make money and there's a demand for it. Or to fund their drug habits or whatever, but that's their choice.

That's not a direct, easily repeatable way to get laid. Every social interaction will be different, so there's no script or something you can repeat with every woman to get them to fuck you.

With hookers it's easy, call them up, agree to meet, give them money, fuck them, and go home. No strings or bullshit attached.

BTW you didn't refute what I said about your hand not even being comparable to a womans body because you know it's true.

> It's playing games. They know that the men want sex and they are making a game about whether they're going to get it or not.
You're speaking for all guys. I'm not you. Most people are not you. I'm not trying to get with a girl I like just for the sake of fucking her. Why is this so hard to grasp for you? The fact that you only want sex skews your entirely world view. You're desperate. You do not speak for all men.
>Yes I am, I will find a girl that'll let me fuck her. Nobody is going to tell me "no".
The ones that tell you no are all the ones that do not want you to fuck them. With your mindset, you will never find a woman that will want to have sex with you out of her own volition. With how depraved you are, even some hookers might reject. And as long as they don't say yes, you're not entitled. Period.
>I can't stand this notion that every hooker is some sexually exploited woman that's powerless to escape that life. Are there women like that? Of course.
Most of them are in countries with legalized prostitution. If you want women who are mostly doing it because they want to / get some cash on the side, you'll have to go to escorts.
>But I think the vast majority of hookers are doing it because it's an easy way to make money and there's a demand for it.
Not in the system you seek. The system you seek breeds corruption in the prostitution area. It inevitably leads to women being exploited.

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1. Because I don't see the point of a relationship if I'm not getting what I want.

2.Depraved? Isn't that a bit extreme? I don't see how I'm depraved.

3. I don't see a difference between hookers and escorts honestly. Except that maybe "hooker" gives images of some crack whore on the corner while "escort" seems more high class.

4. I don't see how. These women would be licensed, STD tested, etc.

Do people who grew up on reddit really not realize that isn't the formatting and what they learned is wrong?
Oh no you found me out I'm actually a nega virgin it means i am a wizard that ages backwards. You are trying to buy sex you fucking loser haha. Get on tinder fag

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EVERYONE BUYS SEX ONE WAY OR ANOTHER YOU DUMB FUCK!

Last I checked, dates cost money. Or do you just go out to eat for free? Probably go to the movies for free too.

And isn't your time worth something? It takes time and effort to seduce a girl.

You've paid for sex one way or another every single time you've had sex, you're just in denial.

Even with tinder, you've still gotta talk to the girl and spend time and effort getting them to agree to meet up.

DFUCKT THAT I WAS JUST TRYING TO SHOW HER A BETTER OPTION

> I don't see the point of a relationship if I'm not getting what I want.
Most men do not want what you want. Most women do not want what you want. You are so full of yourself that you think because you only want sex, every man only wants sex and thus, every woman knows every man wants sex. The start of this illogical reasoning is your skewed view. Women are not assholes for not wanting to fuck you. The reason women don't want you is because you want a hooker, not a girlfriend.
>Depraved? Isn't that a bit extreme? I don't see how I'm depraved.
The fact that you generalize half of the world based on your logical flaws? Only wanting sex? I'd say t hat makes you a depraved slut. The only difference to you and a hooker is, is that you're an unsuccessful slut.
>I don't see how. These women would be licensed, STD tested, etc.
Licensed and tested does not mean they're not forced to do what they do. It's a fact that in countries with legalized prostitution, there's a much larger amount of hookers that are exploited. You can't argue with this, we have proof from countries that adapted legal prostitution. Your personal opinion is irrelevant if reality proves otherwise.
>I don't see a difference between hookers and escorts honestly.
Escorts are mostly self-employed and have a smaller range of customers. They get more freedom in the sexual practises they do. If you're employed as an exploited hooker, you're doing absolutely everything that's on the menu with every guy coming in, 10+ guys a day. Without a say in the matter and without being able to get out of the situation. But you don't care. You only care about getting your dick wet. Don't pretend you're the good guy, or reasonable. You're emotional, illogical and self-centered, and i'm wasting my time with you.

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1. What do most men want then, since you seem to speak for all of them.

2. What should I want? Since you're so enlightend

3. Having to do a job that you don't like to pay the bills is not being exploited. Millions and millions of people do it every single day.

4. They do have a say in the matter, unless they are held at gunpoint. They can run away. Again, don't confuse not wanting to do something with being forced into it.

>What do most men want then, since you seem to speak for all of them.
I don't claim to speak for all men. But I also know the only guys who only want sex from women are fuckboys. What most humans want is love, they find a person they want to spend time with, be close to, be friends with, be intimate with. All of these things are attached to the person they're attracted to, it's not an objective "I want sex with basically anyone". That's depraved. That's what being a slut is. The emotional connection is completely irrelevant to you, which is also what women care about the most. It's no surprise you're exactly what they don't want. And naming a ridiculously small number of women who are promiscuous will not help your point. As much as you don't speak for the majority of guys, they don't represent the majority of women.
>What should I want? Since you're so enlightend
Explained above. But knowing what's normal to want is completely irrelevant for you. If you don't actually want any of those things by nature, then something's wrong with you. Go to therapy, you're either too far down the internet incel board safespace rabbit hole and can be helped, or you're a sociopath.
>They do have a say in the matter, unless they are held at gunpoint.
You be in a completely different country with no money (no, exploited hookers in germany don't get to keep theirs), don't even necessarily speak the language, and have your pimp's henchmen threaten you with violence on the daily. If you were in this exact same position you wouldn't do much better. The only reason you can't understand this is ignorance.

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Beaten pussy is visibly different. But yeah some bitches can be loose anyway. Either way you still have to pay for sex and its something you wouldnt want your mom, coworkers or friends to know because its pathetic. Yet you'll do all the mind gymnastics to convince yourself you're not pathetic. It's sad really.

1. Emotions are bullshit, just a way to justify irrational behavior.

2. So anybody who wants something that's not "mainstream" or has beliefs contrary to "accepted wisdom" has a mental issue. Wow. BTW I don't believe in normal, nor in labeling any human behavior contrary to what the majority do as a "disease". As I said, the vast majority of people are fucking stupid, and those that want what they want are just as stupid.

3. Boo Hoo. Maybe if women didn't make sex so complicated men wouldn't need to go to hookers.

Most men have it all wrong for a simple reason: they don't know - and will not ever know - what real sex is.
The reason is they are only intrested in get physical pleasure.

What really makes me feel good is to know the person I'm having sex with is enjoying it to the point she would only want me in bed with her, which is the reason why I could never even get with a hooker. She gets money for having sex for me. This means she actually could do it with a disabled person, with somebody really ugly, with a dog. (10% of american women had sex with a dog, btw.)

Real sex is only possible with a person which actually desires to have you inside or to stick it inside you. If you think you can solve the incel problem by legalizing prostitution this only means you never had true sex before. Sorry.

The anatomy of a vagina doesn't change with a lot of sex, whether the inside or outside. There is no scientific evidence for this, it's just bullshit thrown around by incels with absolutely no scientific basis.
The one thing that actually fucks a pussy up? Pregnancy. And maybe shoving a basketball in there. They are born with their labia, they are born with their tightness.

You're not even trying to be rational anymore. I can't help you if you're just going to flail your arms around and claim that everyone who wants different things than you is stupid and "making it complicated". You're an egomaniac, incapable of seeing things from a different view than your own. Keep hating women for the rest of your life if that makes you happy. Much easier to say everyone else is at fault rather than yourself.

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Go take some testosterone or a few birthcontrol pills and tell me you dont feel irritable.

Thank you. These b tards wouldnt relate.

There's a difference between cumming in your hand, cumming in a whore, and coming in someone you really love.

You're the one who keeps saying its about an emotional connection. Last I checked, emotions and being rational are incompatible with one another.

And I still can't shake the feeling that I'm being fake when trying to get a girl to fuck me. I feel like a dishonest player that's just telling women what they want to here to better my chances of getting them in bed.

I'd rather be honest with women than deceitful.

I had once thought like you did, but that isn't the real world, buddy. The real world isn't "The Notebook", the real world is BULLSHIT. Because that is what it will virtually always devolve into once the fire goes out, and it generally goes out very quick too.

Women may be whores for the most part early on and basically bounce from guy to guy early in their lives (not saying all, but MOST). But there is going to come a time those types will want to settle down and they surely won't be doing that with someone who can't fit their lifestyle, no matter how great you are in bed or how good you look on the outside. They want the guy that will be praised by their friends, and basically be "Mike Brady", regardless if he looks like a cavetroll. You can be Brad Pitt in his prime years, but if you aint got shit, you aint getting shit....not even with the younger college sluts, because even some of them know better too.

Anyway, I was with someone who I had though was "the one", knew her since HS, met up years later, and yeah , it felt like "The Notebook" at first, but it then devolved into a total nightmare, she turned out to be a heartless blackwidow, and though I wasn't perfect at times, she was the cunt of all cunts. Basically just used to me so she could fulfill needs for herself, and made my first time a very bad experience (it took me all the way to 39 to finally get it).

But now, I don't even care anymore. I basically went my whole life to get to that point and it wasn't even that great anyway, whether or not she turned on me in the way she did. Sex is overrated, gets old fast, and the drama/bs/headgames that comes with all the "situationship" bs isn't' worth it to me anymore.

You say humans inevitably always want this "love factor", but not everyone does actually. Some are happy being alone (not lonely, ALONE). And most have no idea wtf they want, they just want what everyone else does and convince themselves that they need it too.

>You're the one who keeps saying its about an emotional connection. Last I checked, emotions and being rational are incompatible with one another.
What does this have to do with anything i said? Nothing. You're grasping at straws. Just because humans are capable of loving another human being doesn't mean it's irrational to love. ????
>I'd rather be honest with women than deceitful.
That's commendable. This just tells you what you want a hooker, not a girlfriend. You want to fuck, not love. This does not make you wrong, and it does not make them wrong. The thing that's wrong is you hating women as a result. That's what makes you the asshole.

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1. My biggest problem with women is that they are emotionally driven and not logical and rational, because the two later are incompatible with the former.

2. When did I say I hate women? I understand women for what they are, emotion driven, irrational creatures who's only valuable thing to offer me is their bodies.

I have a saying that I came up with years ago. Women are only good for two things:

1. Fucking
2. Fucking up your life.

>I had once thought like you did
You did not. Don't project your shit personality onto me. I'm fundamentally different from you, and i always have been.
>Women may be whores for the most part early on and basically bounce from guy to guy early in their lives (not saying all, but MOST).
There is no statistical evidence to prove any of this. Women lose their virginity later and have less partners throughout their lives than men. You have no justification to assume that the majority of women bounce from dick to dick.
> she turned out to be a heartless blackwidow, and though I wasn't perfect at times, she was the cunt of all cunts.
Good for you. Stop projecting your single case onto every single other case of people finding "the one". You didn't find "the one". You and/or her simply pretended to be different in the get-to-know phase, when you weren't fully together yet. You ignored red flags because you clinged to her. You ignored reason. Stop pretending your case is "the one" case to prove them all wrong. You have made a shitty experience like billions of men before you. Your story doesn't prove anything wrong i stand for.
>You say humans inevitably always want this "love factor", but not everyone does actually.
I did not. Don't put words into my mouth. I said most humans want love. Whether they can find it, or get lost on the way and end up with a dead bedroom and a room mate as a partner is irrelevant to this statement.

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>it's more about the implication than anything.

If you have any game whatsoever your gf or wife knows you can just pick up another woman just as easy as you did her. I'm starting to sense that the problem lies with how you view sex.

>When did I say I hate women?
>emotion driven, irrational creatures who's only valuable thing to offer me is their bodies.
>Women are only good for two things:
>1. Fucking
>2. Fucking up your life.
???
You are not being rational and logic driven with absolutely any of your assumptions either. I don't understand how after this entire discussion with me, you don't even realize this simple point. You constructed a world view and came to wrong conclusions based on your emotions, not through rational thought and irrefutable evidence.

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Ok then what, in your opinion, is wrong with my view of sex?

There is no rationallity when dealing with women, so I can't be expected to respond to emotional BS with logic and reason, because it will fall on deaf ears.

What I'm saying might not make logical sense, but it is observable in the real world because women are not logical.

So, you are what you claim to hate? Tell me more. Right now i'm feeling like the one falling on deaf ears. Are you a woman perhaps?

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Having a low opinion of something is not the same as hating it.

This.

I don’t care about incels, but I agree we should legalize prostitution.

I'm merely stating how the observable world works from my viewpoint. You can disagree all you want.

Alright then. You are not a hater of women, you merely think of them as inferior beings. If they didn't like you before, they'll love you now!

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Right, and they wouldn't hate women if they could fuck them so problem solved.

If women want to act like inferior beings, they shouldn't be surprised when they get treated like it.

Imagine being this much of a simp over sex LMAO

Imagine caring about what pussy you get. Protip, they're all the same, user.

EXACTLY!

I think the biggest problem with incels is that they're unsuccessful with women and are told "It's not their fault, you're the one that needs to change." It's kicking a man while he's down, and it doesn't surprise me that some of these men have acted out violently in retaliation.

These men need an outlet for their sexual frustrations. No one who wants sex should have to go without it.

>I'm merely stating how the observable world works from my viewpoint. You can disagree all you want.
You are extrapolating that based on your viewpoint, this is how the world must work. Thus, i don't disagree with you, i think you're a lunatic. Entirely emotional. Jumping through hoops in your mental gymnastics to even formulate a reply to the corner i've driven you into. If you were rational in any way shape or form, you'd have seen why the things you say make no sense, or at least fled the thread.

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There is no connection between women's opinion of me and the validity of your statement. You might as well have called me a virgin as an argument.

True, pussy is pussy.

I've fucked over 12 hookers in my time visiting them, and of course some where better than others, but each encounter was a lot alike in a lot of ways.

Wew lads, sure smells like roastie damage control in here.

>There is no connection between women's opinion of me and the validity of your statement.
Semantics. That was the argument of my post. And it flew right over your head. I'm running out of bait pictures to reply to you clown.

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Hi, femanon. Show tits pls

No it's how the world does work. People blow up relationships to be this special thing when it's just a glorified mating ritual that we instinctively feel compelled to go through, because that somehow makes sex more honest, or less sleazy, or whatever. At least most people do, I have grown beyond that nonsense.

Just as our sexual desires are really an instinctual drive to reproduce, dating is a primitive mating ritual left over from our evolution that needs to be bred out of existence. We feel compelled to go thru the motions because "that's what you're supposed to do" not because it's logical to do so.

Wtf? You're one dodgy and hypocritical asshole and it's actually YOU doing the projecting. Yes, most women today (and most men) run around from person to person. I see it all the fucking time going on. What's with this "statistical" bs you keep bringing up, like everything needs to be peer reviewed or something? Get over yourself already. There's actually plenty of statistical data today though showing divorce rates being off the charts, less marriages than 50 years ago, and people going from cunt to cunt and dick to dick constantly. You live under a rock?

And yeah, you made it sound due to how you worded things that "everyone wants the love factor". Ffs, stop debating semantic bs. People base their life experiences and the experiences of others on certain trends they see going on all the time.

Lol@ women losing their virginity later in life and all of your other bs along with it. Uh...you're on Yea Forums, faggot. Ever see the swaths upon swaths of threads with hundreds/thousands of girls at 14 and upward being full-frontal sluts and hos as they possibly can be? The shit is rampant ALL OVER TODAY. Sorry, the days of The Waltons are long over, time to wake up.

THIS.

Well no that’s not quite how it works. “Mating rituals” aren’t a desire based on evolution. It’s that females have become genetically predisposed to become difficult to mate with. Males have always needed to jump through some sort of hoop. You’re never gonna breed that out of humanity. Most you can do is what our ancestors did, overcome resistance through force or submit to the rituals.

So women are sluts?

>You're one dodgy and hypocritical asshole and it's actually YOU doing the projecting.
"No you". Clever. Point out where, or are you just throwing things out there to feel better about yourself?
>Yes, most women today (and most men) run around from person to person. I see it all the fucking time going on.
"I see it all the time". Anecdotal, not scientific evidence. I have made completely different observations in my life that suggest otherwise. That's why you can't go around claiming shit like this without proof.
Also, this is not what you initially said. You said most women jump from dick to dick. And divorce rates being higher now than before have nothing to do with people being more promiscuous now than they used to be (also: people in the 1900s were more promiscuous than now, btw).
>you made it sound due to how you worded things
I didn't make anything sound like anything. I say what i say. How you interpret what i say is entirely up to you. I merely said that it's normal to want love, not that everyone wants it, or even a vast majority.
>Ever see the swaths upon swaths of threads with hundreds/thousands of girls at 14 and upward being full-frontal sluts and hos as they possibly can be?
What does this have to do with women being sluts? Or losing their virginity earlier? And this is Yea Forums, no CP allowed here, you're talking out of your ass with "swaths upon swaths". A girlfriend sending her boyfriend some nudes to fap to does not make that girl a slut. You can argue that them sending those pics around the internet is making them the asshole instead. The entire incel camp is a cave of man-sluts who want nothing but stick their dick in pussy, with the only exception of being unsuccessful in doing so. Nothing you say makes logical sense, all your arguments are "but look around you". I am. I don't see what you see. You see what you want to see, just like you interpreted my words how you wanted to.

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That's why I want to remove that ability to be difficult with sex by legalizing prostitution. Make sex easy and readily available to everyone.

Yo spergs, who cares? People fuck. That's the reason for our existence. Case closed. Its not rocket science.

Shut the fuck up. Why are you posting if you're not even gonna read what the discussion is about. You bring nothing of value. Be gone retard.

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So why don't you?

For those of us who aren't b/tards, it is easily and readily available.

Seeing women as inferior beings is simply not the same as hating them. Your argument was that it makes no difference, but it does. I'm also not the same person you were originally arguing with.

Replies to post about how to solve INVOLUNTARY CELIBATE by saying that these guys finally getting to fuck won't help. Go suck start a shotgun you stupid faggot

Let me guess, you're a libertarian, too?

Bro, your pseudo-intellectual, woman-hating, neo-autist rhetoric is as tired as ever. You're about two steps behind CAPTAIN ALL CAPS B/TARD up there in shooting up a school or yoga studio because you're an emotionally stunted man-child.

It makes no difference in the argument i made. You are arguing semantics instead of arguing with the point, which is valid whether you think women are inferior or hate them. If this is how you want to dismantle what i say, then have fun doing so. I won't bother with you and you can dance victoriour.

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FB/IG REQUEST GO

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Again, that's YOUR opinion. You know what that and a buck will get you. She clearly did not think that YOU were a better option than her husband, and she didn't want you to do whatever it was that you tried to do to her.

Women are autonomous creatures, just like you and me. I couldn't sit across from you and tap you on the fucking forehead until this lesson sunk in (despite that being exactly what you need). You don't get to speak for, or think for, or trying to show anyone a better alternative unless that person gives you permission to. Christ, we learned that lesson in kindergarten.

You say that now, but you'll change your mind quick when you see your daughter walk in for an application

I also don't get this bullshit when talking about strippers/hookers of "Oh that's somebody's daughter!" Ya, everybody has a father and mother, what's your point?

That women deserve some kind of special treatment just because their parents had her? Every man is somebody's son too, but nobody ever says that do they? You know why? Because it's fucking stupid.

BTW I never wanted children anyways, so your point falls flat.

>shut up and let me pointlessly argue semantics with another retard about the moralities of sex
Okay. Go ahead then.

Friendly reminder that no one cares whether you want children or not.

Wasn't the point of that post retard

>friendly reminder
Friendly reminder

agreed

I do both. I go on vacations and pay for sex.

Then when i come home, i will hit on everything i see, i just did this to a new whatsapp number

[4:43 PM, 7/21/2019] +1 (345) :
[4:43 PM, 7/21/2019] Groot: you said your shy, after we do that, you wont' be shy
[4:43 PM, 7/21/2019] +1 (345) : Where did that come from
[4:43 PM, 7/21/2019] Groot:
[4:44 PM, 7/21/2019] +1 (345) : Lol
[4:45 PM, 7/21/2019] Groot:
i don't judge
[4:47 PM, 7/21/2019] +1 (345) : Ok
[4:47 PM, 7/21/2019] Groot: and i am very discrete
[4:47 PM, 7/21/2019] +1 (345) : What am I getting out of it
[4:47 PM, 7/21/2019] Groot: no one will know
[4:47 PM, 7/21/2019] +1 (345): Ok
[4:47 PM, 7/21/2019] +1 (345) : Ok

if shes' down to fuck, great. if not...i DO NOT CARE. cause in another month, i will be another sex vacation. smashing girls like this

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opps, missed the opening line

do you wanna fuck tonight?

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> people talk about things i find stupid, let's tell them it's pointless.
Thank you for your input. Next time you don't read the discussion and decide for me what to talk about with others, i'll definitely hear you out.

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Please inform me on what's important about the morality of sex. I'm legitimately all ears.

based

Morality of sex was not the discussion.

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I've officially lost interest.

Think everyone else has too

>you didn't read the discussion
> - explain to me why morality of sex is important
>that was not the discussion
> - i've lost interest

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If women are having power over whether or not you have sex. You're a weak man and lack any ability to even approach one. You don't deserve to reproduce, go back to fucking your fleshlight and wanking to traps.

I don't want to reproduce, I just wanna fuck

You're right. I didn't read any of the rest of the argument you were having with the other guy. I just noticed your last post and decided to point out that you were calling someone a women hater based on things that don't constitute hate, and to be fair it's a big difference, but if your point was simply that fostering negative emotions towards women is bad, then it indeed doesn't make much of a difference.

That doesn’t force men to have to act like normal human beings.. How’s about this, grow the fuck up!! Act like a man and not a little crybaby bitch and learn how to fit in..

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All the social conventions surrounding sex are just evolution's bullshit put in place to make women picky with their mates. It's just a mating ritual and largely antiquated.

Why would I want to fit in with a bunch of dumb fucks? I'll take what I want from women (sex) and leave you guys to deal with the bullshit.

Kissles Virgin here. I dont think the problem is that they dont get laid, i think the problem is they dont get loved.

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Check out this. A lot of them are just hateful little cunts who are desperate and bully women out of some twisted sense of self-righteousness.

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What i was trying to say is, that they are frustrated because nobody loves them and not because nobody fucks them. The psysical stuff doesent matter, they can easily jerk off to let off some steam. Its the emotional aspect that matters.

Not having found someone that loves you yet is no justification to hate half the planet for being born the other gender.

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having sex with a prostitute does not remove your incel status

t. fucked about 30 prostitutes