Conservatives are hypocrites and here's why

Conservatives are hypocrites and here's why.
There was no protest by conservatives when Daniel Shaver was gunned down in a hotel corridor by trigger happy cops. They were responding to a call saying that a man was carrying a rifle into a hotel room - this is allowed in Arizona and covered under the 2nd Amendment. It wasn't even a real rifle but if it was, there would have been nothing illegal.

So Where's the NRA pressuring the police department to get the trigger happy cop fired or charged? They're always yelling about the 2nd amendment but when the time comes to actually step up and defend it, they're nowhere to be seen. This was an actual case of the tyrannical state coming to take people's guns and we hear nothing from them.

Fuck the NRA and fuck republicans, they don't even know what they support, they just vote for whoever says the most outrageous shit while the corporations and the police erode our actual freedoms every day.

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except....he reached....tard...

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bump

Are too busy sucking Trump's dick so they don't get them primary'd.

Yes yes be distracted fight each other this is what they want user.

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Sounds like you don't know what you support too.

You fall for cherrypicked news stories designed to generate ad revenue and viewership at the expense of demonizing police.

It's supposedly the NRA's job to protect the 2nd amendment isn't it?

He reached for the waistband of his pants to pull them up. He was blackout drunk. The police were playing a fucked up game of Simon Says and waiting for a chance to shoot him. Are we not allowed to get drunk now, in case some coward cop decides to start barking orders at us under penalty of execution?

Why are you so obsessed? You're gonna have to let go. I know 2016 was a devastating year for you but there'll be more elections. You people keep embarrassing yourselves year after year. Stop being a sore loser, learn and move the fuck on

Your cunt lost, get the fuck over it already. Holy shit.

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Then they are pussies who shouldn't be cops. Our troops in Iraq and Afghanistan have tighter rules of engagement than cops at home. They're not allowed to just shoot people who touch their waistbands. Why should the Durka Durks be better protected than our own citizens

Face it, you're pissed off because there's a Republican sitting in the oval office that doesn't give a shit about your shrill little feelings

Kind of like when the democrats run the government.

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The shooting was 100% legit. The stupid drunk fuck kept reaching for 4 o'clock. He was doing it to pull his pants back up, but oh well. Darwin gets another dim soul.

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>rate their own health

Oh I'm sorry I thought this was America. I guess it's closer to Columbia or Brazil where there are paramilitary cops who will execute you if you piss them off.

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>>hurr durr every single thing that ever happens isn't worth discussing because Hillary lost

Hillary was just one piece of corn on the outside of the huge piece of shit the liberals keep trying to feed to the rest of us and are shocked when we don't chow down with them.

Why did they force him to crawl towards them? What kind of sick perversion is that?
Have him lay on his stomach with his hands on the back of his head.

fuck off

You're an idiot. The cop was playing Simon Says with conflicting commands instead of telling the guy to lie down with his hands on his head. Nothing about that shooting was legit. They weren't even there for a legitimate reason.

See this is where conservatives show their true colors. They claim to be in favor of the 2nd amendment, they claim to own guns so they can fight the government if it ever becomes tyrannical. But in reality they actually fully support the police taking their guns and killing them for no reason.

That's not really hypocritical though. Conservatives tend to five cops the benifit of the doubt in every shooting case (unless it can be leverage political which all sides do whenever possible these days)
And since that shooting couldn't be leveraged politically it ended up largely ignored by everyone (other than people who generally don't like cops for whatever reason)

Do you have any explanation as to why he was forced to crawl?
"In the official police report of the incident, Brailsford defended his actions, saying that Shaver crawling towards the officers was Shaver "trying to gain a position of advantage in order to gain a better firing position on us". Shaver had indeed crawled towards the officers after one of them instructed him to."
Also
"internal investigation report revealed that Brailsford had violated department weapon policy by engraving his patrol rifle with the phrases "You're fucked" and "Molon labe" (a Greek expression meaning "come and take them")"
And excessive force against an unarmed teenager. Yeah he sounds like a great guy. He shouldve been the pig to get killed.

>conservatives tend to five cops the benifit of the doubt in every shooting case

But that flies in the face of the entire reason they claim to have guns in the first place. They claim they have them so they can rise up against a tyrannical government. IRL they'd be the ones supporting said tyrannical government. They actually don't give a shit about freedom or rights, they just care about pissing off the liberals. All this tyrannical government would have to do is pay lip service to pissing off liberals and they'd all fall in obediently behind it.

Also a year later was reinstated and a month later retires with pension because of PTSD from KILLING AN INNOCENT CIVILIAN AFTER MAKING HIM GIVING HIM COMMANDS THAT MADE NO SENSE WHATSOEVER.
I like the police and appreciate what they do, but this guy is scum and should be behind bars.

>department weapon policy by engraving his patrol rifle with the phrases "You're fucked" and "Molon labe"
Engravings give you no tactical advantage whatsoever.

>job is to protect civs
>engraves weapon with "you're fucked"
Yeah ok buddy

As if the engraving doesnt show the true nature of the corrupt pig

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Donald Trump is a criminal.

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Well?

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It's a bot you fucking newfag

We need to get Trump out even if it's Joe Biden.

The problem with that reasoning is that the police began the altercation.
Are citizens permitted to shoot at police if they think the police may pull their guns? It is inarguably true that sometimes the police DO in fact murder people.
The officer had zero visual of any weapon. You don't get to kill people on their knees, crying, begging for their life, because you're a little freaked out by the situation you created and are in absolute control of, and you think they MIGHT pull a weapon.
OP is right. This was 100% murder.

The left is even more hated now, than in 2016. You will get four more years of Trump. And if they don't completely change their traitorous tune, you will get a literal Hitler in 2024. That is, if a civil war doesn't break out in the mean time, so we can physically put an end to your treachery.

These faggots just want to argue. Any sane individual could watch that video once and understand what happened. As soon as I saw the reaching and the shot, I was like, "Yep, that'll do it..." The best defense against this sort of thing, is to not be a drunken retard that gets the cops attention.

So you admit you don't give a fuck about freedom and you're happy to be stomped underneath the cops' boots if you get their "attention"? Oh no, don't get the cops attention, don't do anything to attract the attention of our benevolent glorious police force, just keep your head down and obey. If you do anything they arbitrarily deem to be even slightly threatening you deserve to be executed.

What the fuck happened to American conservatives? How did you all end up as such snivelling bootlicking pussies?

It blows my mind that someone could be pro-America, and say that cops are clear to shoot people for being drunk.

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This thread just shows that the majority of conservatives are every bbit as hypocritical as the leftist commie fucks.
You think of yourselves as pro-liberty and pro-American values, but you're really just as pro-government control as they are.

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Or maybe actually, i dont know, follow proper protocols and have the guy lay on his stomach with his hands on his head instead of having him crawl towards him? I dont know.
"In the official police report of the incident, Brailsford defended his actions, saying that Shaver crawling towards the officers was Shaver "trying to gain a position of advantage in order to gain a better firing position on us". Shaver had indeed crawled towards the officers after one of them instructed him to."
Brailsford felt threatened from a situation he created by ordering him to crawl towards him. Nothin but a pig.

The whole shooting was butterfly effect. It was literally Darwin in action. The chain of events started with the first sip of alcohol. Then, whatever he did to get such a dire call to be made, likely faking waving a gun at passers by. The fact they came out of the room, just as cops walked up and caught them off guard. The choice of pants that easily slid down as he crawled. His instinctual sense of shame and subconscious reflex to pull them up... FUCK OFF!

This case is the result of a lot of factors, some related, and some not.
The war on drugs changed the relationship of LE and the citizenry.
Andy Griffith is now Duke Nukem.
Trust has been completely destroyed by insane laws that have never worked and never will, but remain in standing because to abolish them would cost a lot of people a lot of money.(cops, drug companies, prisons, their staff, and their shareholders, lobbyists, etc)

Sure buddy.
Brailsford was having a bad day and looking to exercise his "power" on some civs. Hence the ridiculous order to crawl instead of laying on his stomach. No excuse, dude is a pig.

What's your salary?

No, the police turned what should have been a routine check into an ambush of screaming commands and terror-stricken officers, convinced they were about to be gunned down while they were armed to the teeth and had the drop on an unarmed man.
Add to that the fact that a random stranger's accusations aren't facts.
If I accused you of pulling a gun on me, does that mean the cops can roll up on you later with ARs aimed at your head?

We used to shoot in my backyard a lot.
One time the neighbors called the cops and said we were shooting at their house. It was absolutely untrue.
Two cops showed up and knocked on the door, no guns drawn, and asked us about it. We told them there was no way we would do such a thing.
They said okay and pretty much told us to be safe and left.
That's how cops are supposed to act.

Maybe you think that such a call requires an MRAP, flashbangs, and air cover, but sane people can see this as the murder it definitely was.

Wasn’t this the same nigger reaching im his pants (possibly for a gun and as a cop i’m not waiting to find out) when cops continually told him to keep his hands visible and on his head?

All i’m saying is I would have shot him and blown him into a completely fucking new dimension too. I don’t care if he is black. If I’m a cop and it’s reported you have a gun and keep fucking reaching in your ass crack (where almost all criminals exclusively hide a gun) then i’m dropping a whole magazine in you and laughing when I tell your mom about it later at the scene. Fuck that kid and everything about that kid. We all know you are a white cuck faggot OP. Go ahead and get the cops called to come to your place for something gun related and start reaching in your pants aggressively multiple times while denying a cop with his gun trained on you’s orders to keep your hands visible. You’ll get a free ride to the after life too. It has nothing to do with that nigger being black. Accept maybe that only a nigger could be THAT fucking stupid. But then again OP here you are upping the anti.

Kill yourself. Do a cop suicide faggot

Nope, you're ignorant and quite possibly retarded.
Brailsford told him to crawl towards him instead of doing the thing any other sane LEO would do which would be to have him lay down on his stomach with his hands on his head. Brailsford also engraved his rifle with "you're fucked", not exactly something that a cop serving the public should have. Kind of the thing that sets of a red flag towards him being a shitty human being with an attitude that did not belong in law enforcement at all.
Ignored the rest of your trash post.

Busybodies call the cops all the time saying shit that isn't true.
Probably some liberal cunt saw him carrying a rifle and called to say he was aiming it at people.
Those types LOVE to see gun-owners get hassled by the law.
Unfortunately, cops are only too happy to do their bidding.

Any time they use the "he was reaching!" excuse and it turns out the person was actually unarmed and thus didn't even have anything to be reaching for, the officer involved should be fired and banned from working in law enforcement or security anywhere else, and probably should have their right to bear arms revoked since they have proven that they lack the ability to correctly identify threats and are liable to blow their own kid away at 3 AM when they go downstairs for a glass of water.

Exceptions would be made for cases where the suspect was fake-reaching in a blatant attempt to make it look like he was armed.

>be me
>live in country with heavy gun control
>can't go out at 9pm

Yeah, about that, can I get two number 3s? And how fresh are the nuggies? Just out of the fryer or have they been sitting around? If they're fresh I'll take a 20 piece of those too. Thanks, buddy.

Whatever happened to the rules of engagement including visual confirmation of a weapon?
Even the military aren't allowed to just shoot up a civilian because he scratched his ass or reached for his lighter, but here in our own country, not being able to perfectly follow commands when drunk warrants a death-sentence.

I hate you lefty faggots and trump lovers are almost as insufferable.

Imagine being this retarded.

>The best defense against this sort of thing, is to not be a drunken retard that gets the cops attention.

how about you are a tourist in the USA with (almost) no understanding of English ? A cop yell order at you, and you don't understand them and can't comply You deserve to be shot ?

Or you get a delirium crisis as a side effect of a prescription drug your doctor gave you and can't comply to police order, you also deserve to be shot ?

so you think being fired is an appropriate sentence for killing someone ?

if you watch the video, he does seem to be reaching for something. he WAS only reaching down to pull up his pants but when you have cops in your face with rifles, you shouldn't worry about your fucking shorts falling down. it's not really important to be modest. if anything, you don't have anything they haven't seen and to see that you're not hiding anything and vulnerable is only going to relieve them. he could have asked "my shorts are falling down... what should i do?" he was an idiot.

>It blows my mind that someone could be pro-America, and say that cops are clear to shoot people for being drunk.
If you're unable to follow simple instructions in public and might be armed... You're a risk to everyone. That's why I don't feel to bad about this..

You don't have a right to kill people because they're drunk and might be armed.
Have you ever been drunk?
If someone thought you might have been armed at the time, does that give them the right to kill you?
The fact that this cop walked is evidence of just how worthless our justice system has become.

He was drinking in his hotel room. The instructions WERE NOT simple, they were conflicting and confusing. Having a weapon is not illegal.

Shaver did absolutely nothing wrong, he was drunk, scared and begging for his life when the coward pigs shot him. You're just a craven fascist bootlicker who will defend the authority figures you've been programmed to love no matter how blatantly evil and corrupt they are.

>Have you ever been drunk?
Actually, No.

I tend to exercise a bit more self-control than that.

I also have no pity for people busted DUI given their hazard to other people.

It should be the baseline response, in addition to anything that comes out of further investigation/prosecution. Even if they somehow determine that the officer didn't do anything criminal, the fact remains that they are still incompetent.

They were giving him conflicting confusing directions, and they had literally no reason to think he was a threat considering he was complying with the contradictory orders as best he could. Stop making excuses for police brutality you dipshit, you might be next.

>getting drunk in your hotel room in safe circumstances means you have no self control
get a load of this authoritarian faggot

He was fired though, and everyone agreed that cop was a fucking retard. What more do you want? You want people to break into stores and burn down where they live, like niggers do?

The problem is the perception that govt employees have more rights than citizens have.
The opposite is the truth. Cops are supposed to be protective servants, not overseers and oppressors.
If a citizen treated a cop this way, nobody would stand for it.
But since police can do no wrong, it's the citizen's fault every time something goes wrong.

'I don't do it, so I'm okay with cops killing people who do.'

That's the argument he's making, yeah

The shooting was not legit at all. It is perfectly legal in AZ to own guns and have them in public places. This ain't fucking Brazil where the police can kill anybody they please because they're not following your retarded and confusing orders.

Conservatives: We need a small, limited government which respects the life and liberty of the people!

Also conservatives: The government should be able to kill you with impunity

1) The NRA is more of a lobbying organization. As in their goals are national in nature, not individual
2) The NRA fucking sucks ass. They allow the chipping away at the 2nd amendment

You want a real organization that protects the 2nd Amendment and the people, check out Gun Owners of America. They don't give an inch on the 2nd.

Again, why do you keep blatantly ignoring the fact that it is legal to own that type of gun in AZ, it is legal to have said gun in public, AND no shots had been fired by anyone up to that point?

It literally is.
Implying that him being drunk was evidence of him displaying a lack of self-control, and therefore presenting a threat, justifying his killing by police.
That's exactly the argument he's making.

Bootlickers like that guy have been brainwashed to the point where they will make any excuse for their beloved authority figures

Yup. It's absolutely fucking disgusting what these bootlickers will say. I agree with you fully user

Exactly.
We laugh and ridicule 3rd world countries for putting up with this kind of draconian bullshit from their own police.
And then we turn around and defend it here like people are supposed to show their papers and salute everybody with a badge.

He didn't even have a gun. He surprised the cops in a hallway after an active shooter call. They frantically started barking orders at him and he started to crawl. As he crawled, his shorts started coming off. He then repeatedly reached for 4 o'clock, to pull them up. If you're a gun expert, you know what's usually concealed at 4 o'clock and so did they. One cop decided enough was enough with the reaching and popped his ass. Simple as that. Doesn't matter if the cop was an asshole. Doesn't matter if 20/20 hindsight could have made it a better outcome. It is what it is and it was a legit shooting. I had an acquaintance die in his 20s because of an unfortunate chain of events that played out over the course of several months. It all started with him fucking my ex and ended with him being hit by a car, fatally. Had he never met her, he would be alive today.

People like you are just as bad as the anti-police niggers. You find every fucking excuse in the book to defend the police even when they are CLEARLY in the wrong, like here.

Also
>likely faking waving a gun at passers by
There is absolutely NO evidence of that anywhere, even to this day

Then you consider how these people were drinking in their hotel room, which they paid for, and weren't even bothering anybody, it makes the whole thing even worse. It was a complete over-reaction.

>Bootlickers like that guy have been brainwashed to the point where they will make any excuse for their beloved authority figures
I know, he's not even making good arguments. He's just insane levels of mental gymnastics to defend this retarded shooting.

Conservatives are pretty fuckin' retarded

Whitey doesn't stand up for whitey.

He was executed for no reason.

I did law enforcement. I know the training and the standards. I see a lot of cases where the public is full of shit. But sometimes it's just murder by cops. This was one of those times.

we went to the moon using a blender and three bendy straws and you're still this stupid?

Again, the police can kill citizens if they're scared of what might happen, but citizens are not afforded the same right,
A tragic perversion of justice to call this a justified shooting.

Lets say he did in fact have a gun, even though we know he didn't. It is 1000% legal in the state of AZ to carry a gun in public places, even if it's concealed. Why was it even necessary for a fucking SWAT team to respond when shots weren't even fired? Then you throw in the fact the cops made the situation far more tense and dangerous than it needed to be, demanding people crawl on their fucking knees like animals. They made the whole thing worse through African-levels of incompetence. But people like you are why they act that way, because you make excuses and blame the victims.

The cops wanted to fucking murder him and they did, stop making excuses for fascism you lying sack of shit.

>"M-M-MUH SCARY CRYING UNARMED COOPERATIVE PRONE MAN"

Absolutely pathetic reaching. I hope the cops murder you next.

By the way I live in Phoenix for two years. Guns are fucking everywhere down there. It's not like it's out of the usual for people to carry guns in public places. It's not like the guy was standing outside of a school with an AR-15 in his hands. Stop making all of these bullshit excuses for this bad shooting. All of those cops involved should've been fired on the spot.

Conservatives are hypocrites? Stop the fucking presses, I need to reevaluate my entire life and perspective.

>no shit

I was one of the bootlickers until I drove a wrecker for the city in a major metro area.
I worked with cops all night every night.
It didn't take long for me to come to the realization that police are FAR more crooked and corrupt than any criminal they're after.
It reminded me of the guards and soldiers in Braveheart, harassing and bullying the people under the sanction of the state. They're the untouchable enforcement class, and they know it, and they constantly take advantage and even glee in flexing their power over the little people.
The good ones don't last long. They either fall in line, or get shut out of promotions, or harassed and bullied until they quit. It's fucking SCARY to have that kind of eye-opening experience, man.
To know that these people you expect to protect and serve are worse than some nigger limping down the street is a life-altering thing.

You really lost credibility there at the end of that rant.

Don't get me wrong, I understand where you're coming from, but cops are a necessary evil. If it weren't for them this country would look like El Salvador overnight. Which is what I'm starting to think is what some on the left want. The problem is that this type of work attracts some of the worse people. People who have never had any sort of power or control in their entire lives before, so when they get a gisp of it they abuse it.

LOLOL, nigger lover!

Fuck, you are hopelessly propagandized.

Calm down, I love your sister too.

Dems are hypocrites..

You get your panties all twisted when there is a school shooting but you care less when a child is aborted.

Why is that?

Just telling my experience.
A nig might rob, assault, or shoot you, but he isn't doing it with the knowledge that the he can just claim 'i thought he was reaching' will completely exonerate him, and he'll get paid for it all and have a nice retirement at the end of it.
(Come to think of it, these days he might)
Saw cops do all kind of illegal and flat-out immoral shit in the few years I ran that wrecker. Stealing, assaulting people, destroying property unnecessarily, lie, make up charges, arrange rides home for other cops who were driving drunk, etc.
And I heard them laugh and joke about it afterwards like it was no big deal.

How is that even REMOTELY the same thing? Are you retarded?

user. We get it. Your retarded.

You are just too fucking stupid to realize the correlation. Or you are a sandnigger or gook.

>Your retarded
You had one job....

75IQ detected

EXACTLY
And they are the vast majority of those in LE positions.
Corruption and abuse of power is not the exception; it is the rule.
Check out Baltimore PD and the Lords of Discipline in Jersey to see what police are really like.
It fucked my head up to see how wrong I was.

ITT: Trolls trolling trolls, that are larping as retards. The best way to spend a clear summer Saturday night.

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yes, if only we were all as smart as you, fag

user, are you depressed? Is it because evil orange man is in office or is it because you really are retarded?

>you really are retarded
Good, you spelled it right this time. You can fuck off now.

Twelve year old detected.

Somebody is ANGERY

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YUUUUUUUP

At least they didn't stampede over themselves to respond to your thread with passionate bootlicking

Oh, wait

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>carrying a rifle in a hotel room
He was sticking out the window fam

So you are saying your mom has low standards? Well she still earned that $20 I gave her.

No need to raise your voice at me young man

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You notice how nobody here is shilling for the NRA, right? We already know they don't give a shit about gun rights.

These two things are not even close to equal

Shhh. Don't redpill the goyim user

The last time someone gave me a red pill, I was told it goes in my bum. I’m not interested in that gay stuff. Keep your red pills.

All Republicans are virgins

>you cannot compare two things if it makes my argument fall apart
classic lib response. I'm suprised you didn't call him a snowflake

Well, you can’t compare them if it’s retarded...

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That’s the look he was giving me when he told me to take it now. Also, his hand was in his pocket.

Conservatives: If the gubment cums fur my guns imma blow them away
Also Conservatives: The police has the right to kill you if you carry a gun in public BUT only if you fail a game of Simon says. Yup that's how I rationalize my insane flipfloping.

So you’re THAT kind of person that makes fun of someone based on their occupation. I bet you make fun of people for living in certain geographic locations as well. The only people I’ve met that make those remarks are uneducated fuckboys. Usually some 20 year old child.

yes I would like fries with that

You are completely changing the premise and banking on the fact that nobody remembers because it was so long ago. This is why I don't trust liberals. This is why I voted/will vote for Trump. The dude was not just "carrying a rifle" he was pointing it out of his goddam hotel window. For all anyone knew at the time, this dude was a domestic terrorist, fully prepared to get himself killed if it meant he would be able to take a few people with him. An unfortunate situation, sure. Police brutality? Not even close. Try again schlomo

What?
The cops had a key yo the room and were going to storm it, but were so retarded they tried opening the wrong door, after that they called out and told them to leave the room
You clearly haven't seen the video

All political sides for the most part are hypocrites (or at least the "progressive" liberals and conservatives). Although the pro gun conservative crowd pisses me off probably the most in terms of hypocrisy.

The left is just fucking idiots so I can deal with half of the bullshit they say. Although how can a conservative find gun control to be evil yet they openly support the NRA (the organization that personally sold your gun rights out on three seperate fucking occasions now) and Trump the historical democrat at MOST a moderate who is anti gun? The dude said "bump stocks should be banned and the police should have a right to take your guns away without due process unless YOU can prove you have done nothing wrong."

I actually had a hard right winger coworker who told me "I mean he makes a good point." And I'm like... no, no he doesnt. If Obama said this shit you'd call him a terrorist and criminal, and honestly for good reason. Although when Trump does it, then it's okay?

And oh my god the reaction from both sides... wtf. Trump has done so much shit the left should cheer but now they are going pro 2A and pro-immigration just to bash him. Wtf? Did the sides switch overnight?

We don't call the law down south, we'll just leave your body in cave across the holler.

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Then why has not a single person or any shred of evidence come out to back this up?

>be me
>be white
>cops stop me for any reason
>keep hands visible, yes sir, no sir, move slowly and deliberately
>Thanks for the warning, y'all have a good one

>be you
>be nigger
>be the niggest
>man fuck da popo
>I pull a 187 on a muthafuckin cop
>move erratically
>suddenly reach for your waistband despite warnings to keep hands visible
>blam blam
Man fuck da popo dey raysis he a good boy he dindu nuffin wrong!

I'm confused on what that is supposed to mean. So political sides have nothing to do with health? Because the chart is fairly even minus a few conservative outliers possibly due to the fact that one of those states produces a majority of the country's coal and the conservative side alone has more datapoints than the liberal.

I'm not even picking sides, but I'm confused on what that chart is supposed to mean :/

I'm not even a liberal and I'm saying you are wrong and retarded. Please log off Yea Forums, you're done for the night.

When the fuck did this become reddit? Back in the day this whole dumbass thread would be saged to death

Daniel Shaver was white you stupid faggot, why do you subhuman retards even comment on this shit if you don't know anything about it

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>he was pointing it out of his goddam hotel window
Again, where's the evidence?

Yay the government is allowed to shoot someone who poses no threat but the cops want to kill just to be 100% sure.

Lol imagine if a citizen did that. Wouldn't even get manslaughter, just a straight up murder charge.

Ahhhh got to love the police state we live in now.

Since Yea Forums got full up with porn threads and nothing else. People are starved for proper threads so they'll contribute to anything as long as it's not another one of these retarded low quality "FB/IG" jerkfests

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>but were so retarded they tried opening the wrong door
This was the part that pissed me off the most. They shoot this poor guy to death and then kept trying to open the wrong door like retards.

You do know the guy that got shot was white, right? You didn't even watch the video did you

So, you're saying that cops aren't racist and that their actions are largely determined by the behavior of the 'victim'?
God, you libshits are easy

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Please see

reported for

There was the statement that the hotel windows did not open, and the fact that the window in question was not visible from the pool which us where the caller said they saw it

Cops are jumpy roided up cowards with guns, you're aware they shoot more white people than black people right? Are you seriously this unable to see the world unless it's through a lens of "maga vs libshits"? How fucking retarded are you?

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That person should be charged with filing a false police report. Rifles are legal in that state anyway.

>Cops are jumpy roided up cowards
>Are you seriously this unable to see the world unless it's through a lens of "maga vs libshits"
Well, when you make it so obvious, it's hard to not say something.
And considering you need therapy for the PTSD you got from people saying mean things to you on the internet, I don't really think you get to talk shit about people that get shot at for a living

Yeah I know, it was another liberal who sits his pants around guns. So anytime he sees a responsible gun owner he calls the cop so they can harass them for him.

>I don't really think you get to talk shit about people that get shot at for a living

They don't "get shot at for a living" you bootlicking homo, statistically you're more likely to get shot as a clerk or a bartender than as a cop. Christ it's cringy to read all this bullshit you snivelling faggots write about the cops you worship, maybe grow a dick and a set of testicles and you'll see the world clearer

>They don't "get shot at for a living"
I know some fellas from dfw who would disagree with you.
Also, you need to calm down son. I know it can be triggering, posting in a place where the EULA doesn't require everyone to agree with you.
Try this: take a deep breath, and say to yourself, "my feelings are not objective fact"
Feel better?

>and corporations erode our freedoms
funny that every major corporation agrees with the far left on every social issue and actively works against the right ((()))

republicans have no shame anymore

The reason that the 'reaching for possible weapon/didn't follow orders' argument doesn't fly is that no matter the circumstances, the cop can shoot you and you are in the wrong.
Let's say some fucking gamerfaggot swatted you while you're sitting at your comp, facing away from the door.
They storm in and scream orders at you. If you don't turn around, they shoot you and say you refused to follow orders.
If you do turn around, they shoot you and say it looked like you were turning to engage them.

Sorry, but the cops have to bear the responsibility when they create a situation like this on virtually zero evidence.
A random fgt calling in saying they saw somebody doing something dangerous isn't justification for a swat-style confrontation.
These cops escalated a safety check to absurd levels of violence and force, and are therefore responsible for this poor dude's murder.

A concerned citizen call isn't justification, because they are frequently incorrect, exagerrated, or flatout falsified.
It's why cops are required to get warrants before kicking doors in.
We can't have police just storm houses because some nosy neighbor wanted to make a false report.
That kind of thing is how cops and citizens get killed. It makes people hate cops, and cops hate people.
It's also why stop and frisk was outlawed.
If you don't have direct evidence of a crime being committed, you don't have the right to detain, search, and especially not order people to the ground at the barrel of an automatic rifle just because someone said they saw someone waving a gun around.

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Not American (canadian) but as soon you take the decision of drinking and intoxicating yourself, you should be ready to face the consequences of your acts, positives or negatives. I cannot speak about whatever happened, didn't see footage, but I think it is the main factor of such a story.

Also I believe most cops/polices can use the same kind of weapons as the person they are engaging. At least it is usually how it goes here. If they had any hints of seeing a gun... They were in a pretty legit situation to use some too. This is why airsoft guns are the worst imo. They look way too real and nobody should be carrying those outside of a proper place to use them. I can 100% get behind someone fearing for their safety if they see such a gun.

Statistically, LE isn't even that dangerous.
Repo men are more likely to be murdered, but we don't allow them to gun down anyone who 'might be reaching for a weapon', do we?

So first off, that's not what happened.

They responded to a man waving a weapon out his window at people and pointing it at them. Dumb fucking liberals trying to change the story.

>This is why airsoft guns are the worst imo. They look way too real
Here in the states, airsoft guns are required to be marked in a way that differentiates them from a real gun (minimum of neon orange tip). The incidents you see here where a cop shoots some dumbass waving an airsoft gun at them usually involve the gun being illegally modified to look like a real Glock

>Not American (canadian) but as soon you take the decision of drinking and intoxicating yourself, you should be ready to face the consequences of your acts, positives or negatives
As it's been stated now MULTIPLE times, they were drinking in the privacy of their own hotel room. This is not a third world country where the fucking police can just storm into people's homes and order them to do ridiculous shit because they may or may be committing a crime. Plus it's legal to carry guns in public places in Arizona, PERFECTLY LEGAL. Absolutely no reason at all to have a SWAT team level respond when no one is even shooting a gun.

>we don't allow them to gun down
repo men are allowed to defend themselves same as anyone else
>Statistically, LE isn't even that dangerous
When did this turn into a thread about statistics? This is a thread about generalizing an entire profession based on one event remember? So cops get shot at all the time.

You seemed to have calmed down a good deal. I'm glad that exercise I suggested worked for you

>repo men are allowed to defend themselves same as anyone else
Actually they aren't depending on the state. In NJ they're not even allowed to carry guns.

>implying anyone gives a shit about NJ
Tell snookie I said hi

Doesn't matter, I proved you wrong

The 'reaching'defense is something that applies exclusively to cops.
A citizen in this situation would almost certainly be charged with murder.
If the person they shot didn't have a gun, they would have no defense.
Only LEOs get to use that ridiculous excuse.

>Not allowed to get drunk in public to the point you can't follow simple instructions.
He went in public. The police bright him into public under threat of violence. He was in a private hotel room, where he is entitled to be as drunk as he pleases.

>doesn't matter
>NJ
I beg to differ. Even Haitians won't settle in that shithole

>ridiculous excuse
And just how hard is it to not quickly reach for your waistband when a guy who has a literal license to kill is pointing a gun at you?
Sounds like the problem isn't cops, but the retards that are allowed to travel without their wrangler

Alright show me where the fuck repos have the same self defense rights as cops

You're pretty blind if you think it's even. Most conservative States are lower than most liberal States. However as per fucking usual moderate States like moderate people are the best, proving once again how fucking stupid tribalism in politics is. The guy who posted it wanted it to be liberal propaganda bit it ended up proving he was a tribalist retard and moderation is king.

Stop voting for a see saw government. More people need to go independent.

A 3rd hand report, in a building with Windows that don't open, a window that couldn't be seen from the area it was reportedly seen from, and knowing the exact room number...
It's obvious that someone saw him carrying the case into his room and overreacted

>Where look at those goalposts move
Please take a deep breath, then reread what I said

Pretty difficult, I would imagine. Especially when you're drunk, , surprised, scared out of your mind, and trying to follow commands being screamed at you, while crawling and having your shorts tangling up and being dragged down on the floor.
Citizens are always expected to behave perfectly in every way, while a cop's screwup can be brushed away with a treasure chest of excuses and justifications.

Hiwbhard is it to not shoot someone 7 times for doing that?
There were 5 cops, only 1 thought the situation warranted shooting

>Traitorous
>Treachery
Babe something the left has advocated for that is in any way treachery? Try to actually go for things they themselves have said and not shit retarded right wing news misrepresents them as saying. For example:
>Le Righttards: zomg they want to abolish ICE!
>Reality: Democrats have never once said they want to outright Abolish ICE and stop immigration enforcement, but have instead suggested a very sensible, small government consolidation of duties and staff. Every time they mention 'abolishing' ICE, they mention giving its duties and staff to CBP to reduce crossed wires and consolidate the power structure to IMPROVE border control.

I'll wait. Make sure you actually read the things they are accused of saying, in whole and in context, because if you just parrot Fox & friends everyone will now know you're a retard.

>And just how hard is it to not quickly reach for your waistband when a guy who has a literal license to kill is pointing a gun at you?

How hard is it to not over react and sent a fucking swat team to a hotel when no shots have even been fired in a state where it is perfectly legal to own and carry guns in public places?

Wage cuck.

>Be me
>Live in country with nearly absolute gun control
>Can go out at night in the city safe in the knowledge that even if an alternative weapon is used I have a lower chance of dying than an American do the same

>be you
>get stabbed by Muhummaed
>lel fooking americans

Conservative hypocrisy:

They identify cherry picked sources against themselves. But when a source is fallacious about anything they disagree with, it MUST be true.

Oh. So they want peace? There's no peace or egalitarianism with these self righteous hypocrites.
"They not like me. They need to be treated like shit and blamed for it because me no approve".

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Comparing a person aborting a non sentient fetus prior to it developing the biology to feel physical pain let alone fear, to a squad of men ordering an innocent, sentient man out of his room, giving him conflicting orders, making him beg for his life in fear and then shooting him dead because his addled mind was incapable of keeping up with the situation they put him in without justification. Yeah sounds real comparable.

So are you

They're not even conservatives. Just look at the deficit they forced through Congress! They're just crooks.

>He was pointing out our his goddamn hotel window
The window that testimony shows was never open? That window?

They were planning to storm into a room they had no probable cause to enter, a violation of 4th amendment law. They did so in response to a man having a gun in a hotel room, which is not a crime due to 2nd amendment law. They fucked up trying to get to the room, elected to call him out, and then have nonprocedural orders which were conflicting, and when the drunk man who was visibly crying and trying to comply with their orders failed once, a man who was demonstrably trigger happy from his record shot him dead. A man who engraved his rifle with aggressive phrases, ironically including defense of 2A rights (molan labe - come and take them) which be just shot a man for exercising in privacy.

No, he did not point it out the goddamn hotel window. This was never in evidence.

I can confirm leak shit this works

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Who said I did? And no it isnt lopsided you obviously dont understqnd anything about outliers. One, political affiliation is incorrectly prescribed based off of voter numbers and years being red, blue, and swing states in the last 50 years.

Two, moderates can and are often just as fucking idiotic when they apply the same standards of government to different issues.

The issue here isnt what should be legal/illegal and more about the role of the government. Everyone is going to try and use the government to club the fuck out of anyone who disagrees and that is my main issue with the extremes.

Both extreme conservatives and liberals want a police state in the end. All I fucking want is my freedoms, more money because I work too fucking hard to lose 30+% of total income in taxes to support a broken welfare state, and to be left the fuck alone.

I'd at best advocate for local governments. Get rid of this federal and state bullshit. It makes zero sense to give so much power to a small subsection of people that rule over 300+ million individuals. Not everyone wants and needs the same thing.

There is no right answer and I think everyone trying to find it are the idiots. Some people want strong social nets, if people choose to

>reread what I said
Okay
>repo men are allowed to defend themselves same as anyone else
Except cops, as had been stated, and is a fact, which does not care about your feelings about how dangerous the job SEEMS.

>Memes about getting stabbed
>Ignores the fact that I'm still less likely to die, regardless of weapon used, in my city than in an American city, because of a number of factors (actual level of crime, killing power of available weapons, responsiveness of emergency services and healthcare quality)
*Laughs in statistics*
Keep memeing America. Facts don't care.

You said it yourself.

You wait it was pretty even.

You are incorrect, objectively.

Any average, any at all, mean, mode or median, will show that the moderates win that chart, and conservatives come dead last. There more than a 'few outliers' indicating not outlying but statistical significance. If I've or two states on the left of the chart were down the bottom you might have a point, but 9 out of 15 of the yellow dots is not 'a few outliers'.

You have no idea how statistics work.

im not American but god leftists in America are fucking nuts. RIP America

So you have nothing, just the points you read on a right biased site that misrepresented or hair quoted democrats to make them seem awful and stupid. Just like the best majority of Leftards listening to CNN and hearing only what their news source of choice tells them the 'enemy' said.

do you not work?

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There's no doctrine.
>It's just pointing and screaming.

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