Why is communism bad?

Why is communism bad?

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because it is stealing

It's not
It's the corrupt people in charge that make it bad

Wage slavery is theft from the worker. You're taking their time and rewarding them with money significantly less than the value than they produced for you.

Venezuela and North Korea aren't communist lol.

Eeeh? What? So you're fine with people who do nothing for society taking your hard earned money?

Because garbage men shouldn't be on the same level as a learned doctor

nah maaaan.
you gotta realize. he wants to be the guy who takes your hard earned stuff

Comunism doesnt work like that

Because you don't understand it and someone told you it was bad and you're too stupid to learn about things you don't understand.

What you fail to understand is that people in numbers are more powerful than the sum of each of the people alone.
If two people work together, they get more done than if they both worked individually. Therefore, they both can reap from their efforts more than they would have if they gave it their all on their own. Can you explain to me why this situation is slavery, and not freedom?

why is it not bad?

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Capitalism isn't perfect you're still a wage slave for less and less now that time goes on but it's far better than communism

>Capitalism isn't perfect you're still a wage slave for less and less
I fail to see how a problem in the economy is a problem of capitalism. Insofar as I understand, they are related, but work on different levels.
It may be reasonable in extreme situations to talk like that, but I don't think the current situation is one of them. It's like saying "A republic form of government isn't perfect. Crime rates are getting higher and higher, but it's certainly better than a monarchy."

>Therefore, they both can reap from their efforts more than they would have if they gave it their all on their own.
Right, multiple people working together produce more value, but only the person on the top reaps that value. That's theft from the others who produce that value, far more so than taxes (which pay for things that are necessary for the capitalist to extract value, and that he disproportionately benefits from).
The "slavery" part of wage slavery is term separate from this issue, that describes the condition where the working class has no real ability to choose his standards of employment on the free market, because the free market has been intentionally destroyed by those with disproportionate power (the wealthy) in order to keep this lopsided situation where they profit more off of the labor of others than does the laborer. If you effectively have no choice in the conditions of your work (pay or benefits), you are effectively a slave.

>taking your hard earned money?
Terrible fucking reason. What are taxes faggot? Can't have a government without one

It's not because it is bad, it's because it's different.

The difference will eventually murder the functionality of other monetary based systems. This is why they don't like each others.

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because humans are shit, and giving government more control means giving people more control which means you're going to get shit on more

25% tax
80%tax
hmmmmmmmmmmm

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hmmmmmm

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As a communist, North Korea is communist

>25% tax
I don't know where the hell you live, but the concept is EXACTLY the same regardless of the number. Don't like taxes? Go live in the fucking arctic where your life is moot and unprotected.

HA! no it's fucking not.

>I fail to see how a problem in the economy is a problem of capitalism. Insofar as I understand, they are related, but work on different levels.

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>government more control
That's not communism

Capitalist Clowns

Where are its communes, comrade? How are they elected?

That's retarded. Do you know how fucked up everything would be without garbage men? You can be fine for years without seeing a doctor but everything would collapse in a minute without garbage men.

You guys are retarded

As a Communist, it is NOT.
It is an hereditary autocratic military state.

Capitalism certainly is!

Strawman. In every communist society, even the failed ones, just as many people contributed to society as in capitalist societies. Even in progressive "socialist" experiments like ubi, people remain employed with the exception of new mothers and students, who are already contributing to society (education is the biggest contributor to economic growth behind energy prices)
Sure, there are always some outliers, but if the thought of one person getting something they might not deserve with an action that improves the lives of hundreds of deserving people makes you angry, you're a bitter and hateful person that misses the point of the social contract.

Taxes?

Communism would be the best form of government if it weren't for greed and laziness. Humans have a great deal of both so in reality it will never work.

Communism as a state policy and communism as an economic system are two different things. North Korea is a socialist state that intends on achieving world communism as per the Marxist-Leninist/Juche system it has implemented. Don't be intellectually dishonest if you're talking about two different things.

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>taxes and the government do nothing for society
wew lad

So no communes in communism, comrade? Cool trick. Next you'll want us to believe there's no capital in capitalism.

Being autocratic doesn't make it not communist. you can acknowledge that it is a shitty socialist state with many human rights violations, but as long as big boy Kim technically wants to institute communism it's a communist state

>It's the corrupt people in charge that make it bad
This has some truth to it. The common argument that communism is bad because they lead to genocide is null and void. Those were faults of the people in charge. The U.S has had genocidal maniacs in charge too, doesn't make our constitutional republican government a bad idea.

Kim regime is NOT Marxist-Leninist!
Autocratic hereditary despotism is a vile anti-marxist concept.

A red star doesn't make you a Communist.

WRONG

It's utter hypocrisy.

How about we change for a ressource based economy instead?

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I'd want to note here that socialism is an extension of democratic ideals, which NK fundamentally lacks. It's a sham democracy, which effectively makes it sham socialism.

Wew, dickhead

>i want to create a communist state
>but in the mean time I'm going to do the complete opposite of that
herp a derp di doo

I love watching arguements with weird comparisons get shot down by replies like yours

I'm an anarchist lmao I don't exactly like them either

Again, it's a socialist state. It's not communist by government, nor by economy, nor by (current) political philosophy.

It's communist in that it hopes to achieve communism.

Goon ass bitch ass

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I mean, there's some merit to the comparison, after all, without sanitation workers there'd be a whole lot more need for doctors.
One might even say that they're providing preventative care.

Socialism requires democracy, so even calling it a "socialist" state should require airquotes.

I was only pointing out how stupid it is to say that a doctor is more important than a garbage man. I get that a doctor should be compensated more because it takes a particular type of person and much much more training, but on a whole, there jobs are equally important.

Haha haha haha capitalism has failed

Oh my sides

But even then, that wouldn't work in socialism. Socialism explicitly doesn't focus on the value of the work. It focuses on the amount of it. Look up labor theory of value.

this

Also, amerifats can't posts on these threads, too much brainwash and very little reading/researching.

Communism is not bad. It keeps the poor richer. I feel like America needs to implement communism. China is successful with it after all.

>Oh my sides
Sir. You have no sides. The bank took them as payment.

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>justifying Iran
>justifying Iraq
>Justifying Zimbabwe
>justifying Russia

Why is democracy bad?

You fucking derpy cunt

China is currently set to overtake the US economy by 2025, and has lifted more individuals out of poverty than any system of human governance in the history of mankind.

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There are more examples of failed capitalist democracies than failed communist socialism.

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I agree. I think you and I are much more on the same page then it looks.

There’s good people on both sides

This same principle is applied in capitalist democracies ....paying farmers not to grow crops etc in case they flood the market so that the price can be kept at an artificial level.

There’s nothing fundamentally wrong with either system , other than how they’ve been badly implemented

No, there are fundamental issues with capitalism. Read Marx. Profit inherently fucks over anyone without a business.

True.

Communism appear to work in theory but not in practice.

Capitalism is fundamentally flawed in theory, but seems to work in practice. (Well, if you think having 5 individuals owning more capital than half the population of the earth is “working” - with more assets than they can physically spend in a lifetime)

Most people can more easily envision themselves in a Mad Max style post societal apocalypse hellscape, than imagine themselves living under a ‘slightly different’ economic model that more equally distributes wealth.

I think the rich want to keep it that way too

>Capitalism starves
>northkorea.gif
Where are you on the spectrum user?

The worker willingly signs a contract, they own their work.

It's also noteworthy that the communist societies people like to cite as failed (which they have to some degree imho) came about in times the people were seriously under attack. In Cuba Batista was ready to sell the country to the mafia of America, the ussr was fighting off a war against the remnants of the aristocracy. I think in some sense they were doomed to fail and fall into autocracy. But I think in the future we will get there by democratic means

North Korea has been sanctioned the fuck out of by the US.
Their poverty is a direct result of aggressive protectionism from the US

The US has aggressively interfered in the economies and politics of every communist government that has ever taken power - it’s known as “the threat of a working example” and it is the thing that your Oligarch Capitalist Overlords fear the most.

>willingly signs a contract
Or they become homeless and starve.

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Because it opposes capitalist interests.
Pretty much it.
Inb4 'hurr it doesn't work'. It took the Soviet Union from an agrarian society to major world power capable of total global destruction in mere decades. It's a very powerful form of government. They lost the cold war. That's why it all broke down. If we had lost there'd be threads in Russia titled "daily reminder capitalism has never worked once in history".
Also inb4 commie, I love capitalism and wouldn't enjoy communism myself. But it has worked. And well, ya mongrels.

>North Korea has been sanctioned the fuck out of by the US
And literally every other country aside from china. We sanction them for good reason. Then when they come to us in "good graces" they ask for aid and give it to them.

Look you and I are probably on the same side of the spectrum, here but this is insanely oversimplified and leaves out a billion variables.
The communist axis has also done it's fair share of dabbling, control, protectionism, and economy interference. There was an entire episode of this in history known as the "cold war".

>We sanction them for good reason
Citation needed

The “Cold War”;
Ask Americans :
It was this period of high tension nuclear brinkmanship that nearly ended the world!!!

Ask a Russian and they’ll say “what Cold War?”

The Cold War was very much more of an American propaganda exercise

Go to google earth and look at their work camps yourself.

This

It was also an excuse for America to start wars in places like Korea and Vietnam where communist ideology was spreading.

And if a poor country could improve itself through communist ideology , then every poor country might do the same - and stop working for pennies for the betterment of the American consumer

>Guantanamo

Nope. You don’t get to speak

Nowhere near the “work camps” prison labour that America employs to make all its license plates , military helmets, vests, cargo netting etc etc

Go Fuck yourself

This is entirely false. I don't even know how to begin with this.

The Korean war was against Russian influence. Russian generals coordinated n Korean attacks. The vietnam war was against Russian influence. They funded and armed the north Vietnamese.
The moon race, the arms race, all cold war. Russia's invasion of Afghanistan was cold war related. Securing alliances, vital trade routes and resources as well as installing a muslim dictator to quell the liberalising revolution in Afghanistan which might make them sympathetic to the US.
The US and Russia never engaged directly, but both were fighting wars all over the globe in the name of capitalism vs. communism. We still have proxy wars with Russia. The Syrian missile strikes was part of a proxy war with Russia.

less freedom

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i'm not ignorant of America's blunders, i'm just telling you why they do it. Also, nearly everyone does too so shut your whore mouth

North and South Korea were already divided. North commie, south capitalist. North Korea made the first invasion into South Korea. They were actually winning until the US succeeded in a beach landing in North Korea behind enemy lines which was poorly defended. Russian strategists were executed over that shit. We'd have taken all of it if the Chinese didn't show up. Starting a full scale war with China was a fear for the US so that's when they backed down and headed back south and reestablished the dmz as the border.

We were protecting our all and our interests. Vietnam was the same, we couldn't let Russia have it. The entire cold war was maintaining balance of power. If we hadnt protected our interests wed live in a very different timeline right now, and it wouldn't be so great.

“The moon race”

Was a one man race.

Russia had a peaceful space program.
They pioneered all the techniques still currently used in manning and maintaining the international space station.
They had First object in space, first organism in space, first man in space, first space walk, first orbit, rust geostationary orbit....
America - angry and frustrated that it was “losing” declared that “the moon” was the finish line, went to the moon - and then stopped.

When you stop drinking the American Coolade for 5 minutes, you see pretty clearly that far from being “the good guys” America are the antagonists on the world stage, and still are

What’s America doing in Indonesia?
What business have you there?

North Korea is not communist, son. Your brain has been rotted by propaganda.

Or they can start a business and get a 20k line of business credit from literally any bank.

>If we hadnt protected our interests wed live in a very different timeline right now, and it wouldn't be so great.

Similar to your justification of nuking a civilian populace...you considered it “necessary” (for your own benefit).
The world just remembers that America is the only country to have actually used Nukes on a civilian populace - twice.

That doesn’t make you the good guys , no matter what justification you tell yourself to sleep soundly at night

>We sanction them for good reason.
No, you do not. The only reason that the United Snakes has is empire.

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So debt / bankruptcy (to be paid back with interest), sleep in the street, or give us your labour at under market value so your capitalist overlord can sell it on for their own profit and not yours.

Sure

The Great Satan

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We. are. not. alone. Don't use this excuse for calling America bad. Also, good and evil isn't black and white. Are you fucking 5? Is China conversely the only good country on earth for not doing it? Shut the fuck up, you're making us dumber just listening to you

Too much black-vs-white here. Learning your history from graphic novels?
China backed both Korea and Vietnam. China still backs North Korea.

I really wish people would fucking read Marx, even if you don't agree with him politically

Yes, of course, the process of production has been socialised under capitalism, Marx literally was one of the first economists to recognise this, the trouble is that the product of that socialised production is privatised, that is why wage labour is effectively a form of slavery

A system that fails everytime is simply a crappy system

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Play “Twilight Struggle” the board game.

Just about every war since WW2 has been a war between the US and Russia, through various proxies.

You know, that trick didn't even work when Ben taught it to you.

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China is set to overtake the US economy by 2025.
And without China buying US debt in 2008 crash, The US would currently be a failed economy.

Cope more

A board game now!
Well, that will work. And more entertaining than a graphic novel.
I should just forget everything I learned when I lived through the Vietnam War.
Yeah, great idea. Thanks, kid.

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>as a communist

he says,while enjoying life in his capitalist 1st world country

>Right, multiple people working together produce more value, but only the person on the top reaps that value.

The person or people doing the labor now have money they didn't before because the person a the top who "reaps that value" has taken a risk to be able to pay them.

Are you aware what an “analogy” is you boomer faggot retard?

You criticise society and yet you participate in it.
I’m very smart

>It's the corrupt people in charge that make it bad

The problem is, Marx fully admits there is corruption in the system. It is unavoidable.

>I really wish people would fucking read Marx, even if you don't agree with him politically

That's why in his day Marx was considered a kook.

Becomes that's regressing back to bartering.

Hey, I recognize that gay blowjob!

But are they fairly compensated for their work? Or are they under compensated

Is the capitalist owner fairly compensated for their risk? Or are they over compensated

In a functioning tax system, you wouldn’t have the status quo of wealth inequality.

I'm not American. I'm a poli sci bachelor, and by we I mean western civilisation.
Yeah, the nuclear weapons were a war crime. Guess why the US was never charged sanctioned or officially denounced? Because Japan would have to bring the charges, which would result in them having to answer for their own war crimes.
What people remember isn't an accurate reflection of history. And no one is the good guys in terms of governments. They're essentially gangs that behave like paranoid schizophrenics. Does not change the quality of life enjoyed in Western nations for the civilian populace is very, very much because of global campaigns during the cold war.
My point here isn't to justify, nor is it to say you should be thankful or not be mad.
It's more at "understand the history" because everyone juet likes to throw out opinions with zero understand of what happened or why or how it affected us or how it would have affected us if our government didn't act as they did.
Balance of power is extremely important to global security.
In fact were in the most peaceful time in all of human history. It's entirely because of a stable balance of power and globalisation.

"My slave is an abolitionist, and yet he accepts my plow and farmhouse!"

>bankruptcy (to be paid back...

I see you don't know what bankruptcy is. Hard to have a serious conversation with someone that doesn't understand that court ordered debt forgiveness for the purpose of creating a clean slate doesn't demand interest.

>But are they fairly compensated for their work? Or are they under compensated

Some are, some aren't. Some get paid more than what they are worth, some don't.

>In a functioning tax system, you wouldn’t have the status quo of wealth inequality.

Wealth has never been determined by earnings. It has always been determined by spending. Spend more on things that don't retain or gain value than you earn and you'll go broke. Spend less than you earn and you'll have access money.

And don't start on the lie about it costing more for poor people. Not when they smoke, do drugs, drink alcohol, drink soda, buy junk food, buy expensive gadgets.

Unless you are going to not only control what they earn but what they buy, most poor people will stay poor by their own choices.

And lets not forget that more people died in the fire bombings of Tokyo than in either Hiroshima or Nagasaki, plus how many lives on both sides would have been lost in an invasion.

The issue is that a capitalist system will always be inherently corrupt. The state under a capitalist economic system will always serve in the interests of the ruling class, which would be the capitalists.

Shut up faggot.
This is a board for calling people faggots, not for “building bridges of understanding between opposing sides”

I’m well aware of history, and humanities gray morality.
My opinion is in opposition to the American centric “we’re the good guys . And any time we’ve been evil (which was constantly and non-stop) was justified as a means to an end”

that's not a rebuttal and it's because you don't have one

I wish you had to prove your IQ to post.

>The issue is that a capitalist system will always be inherently corrupt.

No, the issue is that Marx fully admitted that his socialist paradise was always going to be corrupt. They had to steal from those who created to survive.

>The state under a capitalist economic system will always serve in the interests of the ruling class, which would be the capitalists.

And yet it doesn't keep the other poor. Even low skilled workers can move up in economic classes in a Capitalist society.

>And don't start on the lie about it costing more for poor people. Not when they smoke, do drugs, drink alcohol, drink soda, buy junk food, buy expensive gadgets

You’re unaware of this study of sugarcane farmers.
Sugarcane farmers typically pull in 1 harvest a year .
So for most of the year they are poor, but when the harvest comes in they are rich.
Their IQ tests from before and after the harvest differed by 20points (20 points higher after harvest)

Being poor literally makes you stupid

>My opinion is in opposition to the American centric “we’re the good guys . And any time we’ve been evil (which was constantly and non-stop) was justified as a means to an end”

No, your opinion is that because America isn't perfect, it is therefore evil - while disregarding the fact that no country is perfect, many countries are almost exclusively evil, and the US has done more to help the world than any other country.

But, since it isn't perfect....

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America has some of the worst social mobility in the developed world.

Just saying

What in the literal fuck are you talking about
>Marx said socialism is corrupt, therefore he wasn't even an advocate for it

What do you mean steal from who created??? What the fuck does that mean??? The workers are the ones that create everything!

>even low skilled workers can move up

Who cares, that's not an argument

The economy is within capitalism. To say problem with economy is a problem with capitalism is to say that a circumstantial issue is the same as a design issue. Do you see what I mean? It's like saying that computers in general should have their design completely changed because yours gave you issues once.

>Being poor literally makes you stupid

No, being stupid and making stupid decisions makes you stupid. Believing that the government can and should provide for you makes you stupid.

It isn't that difficult to get out of poverty. Finish high school. Get a job. Further your education/skills. Obey the law. Don't have children until you are financially stable. Don't spend more than you earn.

>US has done more to help the world than any other country

Except China

China is currently building Africa’s infrastructure, while America has just been pillaging it’s mineral wealth.

I’m my saying America is wholey evil...but it isn’t wholey good either .

Just look at Guantanamo - some innocent people have been kidnapped, tortured and held without trial or charge for 17 years and counting, and despite being cleared for release by the internal military parole hearings, Donald Trump has declared that no one is going to be released, because it plays to his base.

Don’t wonder why America is known as “the Great Satan”,
...it’s obvious once you remove the blinkers

Nope. Quite wrong. Obama ate crickets and dogs and became POTUS. And he's just one example.

men in power fuck it up usually.

Oh, okay, so 48% of Americans not having 1000$ in savings for an emergency fund isn't systemic, got it, we're just retarded!

>What in the literal fuck are you talking about
>Marx said socialism is corrupt, therefore he wasn't even an advocate for it

Misquoting me to show how stupid you are? Wow!

>What do you mean steal from who created???

That means when someone comes up with a way to build a better mouse trap, the socialist government has to come in and take it so they can "provide" jobs for the masses.

>Who cares, that's not an argument

Shit. I forgot this is /b and people like you are the reason there are instructions on the back of shampoo bottles.

>baseless assertion on no evidence
I do not give a single solitary fuck what your opinion is.

Faggot, read about the study for yourself.

Or would that be too mentally taxing for you?

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>Except China

So, the 10 years of China building infrastructure into a new market for themselves somehow outweighs the 200+ years of what the US has done?

SMH

>anecdotal
Social mobility is taken as a population average, not by singular examples.

If all the doctors dissapeared at the same time as all garbage men disappeared, which occupation would be longest in rebuilding?

>200+ years of what the US has done
Let’s see, the rape and pillage of Africa .

The annexation of Peurto Rico and Hawaii.

The funding of Nazi germany.

The “cold wars”

Iraq .
Afghanistan.
Korea
Vietnam

Sure, when your only sources are your own propaganda outlets , America can do no wrong.

The reality is something different

>1000$

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The filth in the streets would have an immediate affect on the Health of the individual .

With the doctors , sick people would die.

Garbage men are probably more important to the functioning of society

Are we supposed to draw the curtains, pour a brandy, ask you to take a seat and then have an adult conversation in response to that?

No, we call you a faggot retard and tell you to GTFO.

Like begats like

Everyone thinks they're the good guys. Humans are like this. Its a massive part of why were so fucked up.
And I do understand your sentiment and what you're saying and agree more than you realise.
I just don't like when people make their own history, which is constant. Acting like the us and only the us has been pushing an agenda through blood globally. This is not the case at all. Especially that dude who suggested Korea was some kind of excuse for the US when North Korea (led by Russian strategists) was the aggressor in that war, and it was the same shit, they wanted control, and they were willing to commit atrocities to attain that control. This is the behaviour if nations. It's not good. You are right. But it's what happens.
That's what political science is interested in. Finding patterns and understanding how nations behave and why. By understanding is how we stop it.

We stopped the European world wars this way. The European Union started with tying france and Germany's economies together so symbiotically that war was impossible. It ended centuries of bitter feuds between them. (Autocorrect wanted to say butter feuds. Mentioning for lols).
The same way globalisation is responsible for the extreme all time low in war related deaths in all of human history. This is being done on purpose to stop the horseshit.

But to come back to your point, again, the US itself is pretty resistant to global accords and alliances, so yeah, they're a problem.

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The problem is we have a global economy , but no global government.

I’m all for the creation of one and the annexing of all national borders.
With no borders, there’s no “us and then”. There’s no enemy to fight. And all that money we spend on weapons could be spent on feeding clothing and educating the poor , while building giant infrastructure projects to solve global needs and explore space as a single global society.

It’s whats needed to tackle the “serious problems”
And no one from any country wants to die in a nuclear fireball - and yet, this is the political system we all find ourselves in.

Ain’t gonna happen though - the rich dudes might lose a small % of their money.
And we can’t allow that to happen!
It’s a Mad World

You’re alright /bro

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This is basically Marxism lol

Ask the Polish and Finnish people how peaceful Russia (U.S.S.R.) is. Pro tip: they aren't, not even fucking close.

The American (Wealthy Elites) Oligarchy is trash, Communist (Peasant Brute Strong Men) Oligarchy is trash. We all need to move towards having an Intelligentsia Oligarchy with members who earn their station by merit alone, not wealth or connection, and not by sucking the political party cock.

Nice reddit spacing fag. Go back there and learn proper punctuation you fucking knob.

noice

That's what a carbon tax is.

Back in the 80's everyone said the Japanese where gonna take over all of American Business. I'll believe it when it happens.

>And don't start on the lie about it costing more for poor people. Not when they smoke, do drugs, drink alcohol, drink soda, buy junk food, buy expensive gadgets.
I'm torn between mocking you for the "poor people are poor because they're buying too many iphones" argument, which has repeatedly been demonstrated to be false (never mind that poor people often only have time/energy for things like junk food after working two jobs, and are forced to live in "food deserts" where that's the only option, not to mention the cheapest one-which is the opposite of your argument) and mocking you for arguing that things aren't more expensive for poor people by providing a list of mostly things that wealthy people are known for buying in excess.

Oh I dunno, the more than one hundred million dead people?

This is the global warming/CO2 hoax right here, except it has nothing to do with capitalism.

The only good commie is a dead commie!

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>Their poverty is a direct result of aggressive protectionism from the US
What have they been sanctioned? It it because they want to nuke the West?
What about S. Korea? Why aren't they sanctioned?

You managed to prove that you have no idea what a carbon tax is.

Japanese who committed multiple crimes against humanity aren't good guys either.
British weren't good guys either, they massacred the French Navy on the chance that they would side with the Fascists.
French also weren't good guys, half of them were Fascists.
U.S.S.R. defiantly aren't good guys as they had an agreement in regards to the invasion of Poland and conquered Finland unprovoked.
Hell not even a country who was neutral like Switzerland are the good guys, they hide Nazis gold and stolen artifacts for profit.

Basically there are no good guys and no bad guys, when it comes to countries everyone has dark history. Anyone who thinks in terms of good guys and bad buys is a child and should excuse themselves from the conversation.

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It baffles me that whitespace, which people who actually want their writing to be legible have been using on the internet since before your parents broke a condom to make you, somehow got branded as "reddit spacing" by the people on here too inbred to have ever used a different part of the internet.

Watch it happen in real time

usdebtclock.org/world-debt-clock.html

One exaulted leader has everything while the masses toil and die in literal shit with nothing. And if they ever speak up, or say anything against the leader; public execution.

Seems like a great idea to me.

Seriously, comunism has never worked because it can't. No country can actually thrive without industry and free market. Hell, look what happened to the soviet union. A former global superpower. Now makes teens go "the what!?" When you mention it. It's legasy nothing more than political talking points by retards and revisionists on both ends of the political spectrum.
Russia still exists, sure, but it 's a gigantic shithole full of morons and poor people. Their current claim to fame is the russian bots meme. A failed society and government in all ways.

If you subscribe to communism for even a moment, you are a moron. Unless you are the exaulted leader. In which case, you are a manipulitive liar and probable sociopath.

For your edification newfriend

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Dunning–Kruger effect in. fucking. action people

I always get that retarded “reddit spacing” faggotry thrown at me.

I have literally never been to reddit, so wouldn’t have the first incling what their syntax is.

The faggots saying “reddit spacing” though, clearly know it....very very well, and can recognising it on site....having obviously spent FAR to long on Reddit.

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I’m not expanding that image faggot.
Use your words

fuck you gay nigger

there's some words

China is moving away from what made them great which was having an Engineer Oligarchy back to a dictator (Winne the Fucking Pooh). I'm looking forward to enjoying their nation go up in flames.

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I know right?

Takes literally the most retarded brainlet understanding of communism/socialism/Marxism (having obviously never read about what they are or what they mean) and regurgitates the US Cold War era propaganda line of the “Reds Under The Bed” scares.

But , if anything, it shows the strength of capitalism, that it can absorb abject retards like them and integrate them into society.

I would prefer it if they were removed until re-education

>wishful thinking

China has a policy of reviewing their policy every 10 years, and keeping what works, and changing what doesn’t.

I hope everyone, regardless who they are or where they come from, has a successful happy productive life free from pain sickness and hardship.

But then again, I’m not an irredeemable cunt

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In principle it's not bad at all...but in practice it tends to lead to a bunch of dead cossacks and gulags

Why do you think they are investing so much in Africa’s infrastructure building..,it’s to keep their infrastructure industry afloat

At least I didn't sellout to shitty hipster beer.

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That is decisions that the oligarchy made that are solid but now that they've made Mao 2.0 "president for life" shit seems to be going backwards for them.

i dont think you know what bankruptcy means

I've been here since 06 and been on the internet since you still shit yourself. I know reddit uses whitespace, but if you'll read what I fucking said, you'll realize that it existed way before reddit.
No whitespace was fine when we had tiny monitors, but it's not fucking 2006 anymore.

>I've been here since '06
post the oldest picture in your Yea Forums folder
>inb4 I don't save pictures from Yea Forums and other lies that newfags tell

Until people in general stop thinging they are holier than though, growling at every threat, and stop being megalomaniacs, communism will never work.
....that said
Capitalism is not a perfect system, there will always be winners and losers, think of credit and money like scores. You can be on hardmode (born poor) or easy mode (born rich). It is no longer about working hard in this day and age, its about working smarter and exploiting those around you. Crush the competition to reach the leaderboards, and you may eventually become a mod/admin.

I really wish one day that theere is a person who can lead us to the perfect Marxist society, but due to human nature, the best we got is Capitalism or classical Fascism (not the hitler shit, an economy thats driven to be in preparation for war at all times, look up the definition of fascism). I am a classical liberal, but what the media is portraying as liberalism is actually mental illness. read up on what being classical liberal means.

TL;DR: Until humans aren't shit, Capitalism will have to work for now.

not that fag, but...

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You wanna see ugly fat man penis?

You're gonna need the government to enforce the communism as soon as people start declining to partake in the sharing game.

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I actually don't save pictures to a "b folder", for the record, and I'm pretty sure my original b folder got destroyed at some point (I sure as hell don't still have my hard drive from 2006), but here's what I found on an old external drive

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Meant to say I don't save them to a folder anymore. There's no point nowadays, it really is just porn.
Man, there's some old fucking screenshots in here though.

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I remember that Haley Williams lookalike. Good faps.

Yea Forums was always shit though
By the way,
are me and
is some other fag.

forgot the image

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youtu.be/l3TvORNCMfw