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Real talk
How exactly has Trump failed the American people (if he has at all)
And how has he benefited us?

I want straight facts because I don't want cnn or fox to circle jerk inside of my head (biases)

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theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/apr/23/gina-haspels-cia-appointment-will-delight-torturers-trump
humanrightsfirst.org/resource/background-guantanamo-bay-prison
medium.com/@matthewgallaherheim/trump-colluded-with-saudi-arabia-to-continue-their-genocide-in-yemen-but-who-cares-e81379f1dcda
reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-finance/trump-says-wont-divest-from-his-business-while-president-idUSKBN14V21I
vanityfair.com/news/2018/12/trump-hotel-saudi-arabia
cnbc.com/2018/12/06/saudi-lobbyists-reportedly-booked-500-rooms-at-trumps-dc-hotel.html
independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/donald-trump-international-hotel-saudi-arabia-washington-dc-investment-270000-a7775471.html
time.com/3672066/guantanamo-bay-history/
huffpost.com/entry/nancy-pelosi-has-lost-control_n_5d2cb605e4b032ea741220ad
twitter.com/SFWRedditVideos

Beau of the fifth

In not really one to watch the news much (blissful ignorance feels great) but I do know that Trump is the first person to step into North Korean territory and set peaceful conversation with Kim Jong Un since the Korean war. TWICE.

He appointed someone who had a pregnant woman illegally tortured (who later turned out to be innocent) to be CIA Director. And has kept Gitmo open. He's violated international law by financially backing the genocide in Yemen.

theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/apr/23/gina-haspels-cia-appointment-will-delight-torturers-trump

humanrightsfirst.org/resource/background-guantanamo-bay-prison

medium.com/@matthewgallaherheim/trump-colluded-with-saudi-arabia-to-continue-their-genocide-in-yemen-but-who-cares-e81379f1dcda

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No one really know, atleast not many, we all grew up in our bubbles and generaly take the side that our parents are on. In the end both sides are screaming at eachother so loudly nether can make out what the other is actaly saying. All you can do is look into what each beleves in and build your own philosophy on what ideas work and what dont, dont be afraid to to have views from both sides, you dont have to be just left or just right, both sides have good ideas if we just stop and listen to eachother.

cus drumpf is evil and has orange skin duh

Some, who care to do their research really do know. He's violated the Geneva conventions. And broken the emoluments clause. Unless you want to delve into his support of torture aka "enhanced interrogation."

the hardest choices require the strongest wills

He's getting our trade agreements straightened out, no one talks about that. We've been taking it in the ass for far too long as far as that is concerned.

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When did he break the Geneva convention rules?

Pretty sure your countries job rates and economy are going up and he seems to be doing a pretty good job as president, especially as someone who had no history in politics. But fuck he’s an obnoxious cunt

No one gives a fuck about some mudslime shit

The United States is drunk. Our liquor is debt. Debt is our #1 export. Soon, the rest of the world will begin to realize that we have no choice but to default on our massive national debt. Already, other countries are openly discussing plans to ditch the inflating US dollar as a reserve currency. Once this begins, it's game over...

Pouring the "drunk" another drink is not the solution. Massive amounts of deficit-financed spending does not make a "strong" economy. Continuous rounds of quantitative easing (money printing) by the Federal Reserve is causing massive asset inflation and does not create wealth. A rising stock and real estate market are the result of a large asset-inflation bubble, not any type of economic recovery as the government would have you believe. The Federal Reserve interest rate control mechanism is effectively broken and the interest rate has been stuck at or near zero since 2009. Without printing money to do so, United States can hardly afford to pay the interest alone on the increasing national debt.

A real solution requires that we all endure a painful hangover. A recession is actually needed to allow the economy to cure itself of its inefficiencies and reallocate resources to productive sectors. The Federal Reserve must concede that it is impossible to prevent the coming recession indefinitely. Trying to to do so by continuously printing money is fatal to our economy, and our country.

Stop quantitative easing, stop asset inflation, and allow interest rates to rise. Higher interest rates will discourage borrowing and spending, and encourage personal savings. We must restart non-debt financed capital investment in this country - the true engine of a productive, sustainable economy.

“The United States can pay any debt it has because we can always print money to do that. So there is zero probability of default.” -- Alan Greenspan

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Lmao. If he had any strong will he'd be standing up to the Saudis, not sucking their dick. I thought he said he'd drain the swamp??

reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-finance/trump-says-wont-divest-from-his-business-while-president-idUSKBN14V21I

vanityfair.com/news/2018/12/trump-hotel-saudi-arabia

cnbc.com/2018/12/06/saudi-lobbyists-reportedly-booked-500-rooms-at-trumps-dc-hotel.html

independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/donald-trump-international-hotel-saudi-arabia-washington-dc-investment-270000-a7775471.html

Whose he really working for?

we can't BORROW and SPEND our way to prosperity:

The Fed under Greenspan became quite proficient at pushing buttons and pulling levers - manipulating the money supply to an unprecedented extent - successfully preventing the short-term pain of a recession (see the vertical grey bars on the chart). This manipulation of the natural business cycle has effectively avoided short-term pain (business closures, loss of jobs, etc) in exchange for future long-term pain (increased severity of a correction in the future). Combined with misguided attempts to "rescue" failing banks, automakers, etc. we have essentially propped up unproductive businesses, preventing that capital and labor from being freed up and employed elsewhere in the economy.

what we need is a STABLE currency with minimal inflation. the more the government tries to manipulate the economy, the more it keeps distorting it ... with costs rising soon $15/hour won't be enough, then $20/hour won't be enough, etc... we should be aiming to keep the prices of things as STABLE as possible. that's the best way to stimulate growth, just by keeping things stable and predictable.

rather than trying to prevent inflation and prevent an inevitable recession, the government needs to allow this recession (part of the natural economic cycle) to occur. interest rates need to be allowed to naturally rise, this will trigger a painful recession in the short-term - nonproductive businesses will close, jobs will be lost, but capital and labor will be freed up for use in other productive areas of the economy, but prevent even worse long-term pain.

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He broke the Geneva conventions when he's supported, and has allowed to have Gitmo open. Gitmo has a long history of treating detainees illegally. The US actually doesn't even own the land its built on. humanrightsfirst.org/resource/background-guantanamo-bay-prison

So let's be clear you don't care when an innocent pregnant woman is tortured, you'd rather promote criminal members of the elite than hold accountable. Got it bootlicker.

Too many kikes in his circle, Hillary isn't in prison and the wall ain't finished and we can't own Mexican slaves. That's all I got.

He absolutely destroyed the checks and balances of our democracy. That will be his longest lasting legacy and by far his most damaging one, except maybe denying climate change.

Illegal Mexican slaves*

Gitmo is a legal disaster time.com/3672066/guantanamo-bay-history/

Bailing out failed banks SEEMED like the right thing to do at the time... but it's becoming apparent that nothing was "saved" and nothing was "solved"... we just kicked the can further down the road. yes we postponed a crisis and what surely would have followed - a large correction and recession. but we added a massive amount of long-term debt to bail out failing banks, all in a misguided effort to avoid short-term pain. we should have never done that...

Capitalism means private profits and private losses, not private profits and socialized losses. The banks should have been left to do their own risk taking without assurances of a government bailout. Capitalism risk/reward controls DO WORK when these controls are not distorted by "good political intentions"...

As time passes the distortions created by a centrally planned economy become more apparent, as assets continuously inflate and the country becomes mired in debt, it also becomes less and less competitive with the rest of the world. Additionally, the increased risk from our massively increased national debt calls into question the overall solvency of the currency, and we are already seeing other countries (our lenders) begin to move away from the US dollar as the world's reserve currency.

Once the crisis of confidence peaks, and the dollar loses its international reserve currency status...

...it's game over.

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Those are all left wing media outlets you fucking dipshit. The user said NO BIAS

There are no outlets with no bias. If you think there are, enjoy your echo chamber.

He's failed us by promising a border and to kick out all the spics but instead just moved the embassy in Israel, shills constantly for the jews and wants even more "legal" immigration. He's done nothing for the whites that build and founded the US.

>biases
Do your own research instead of asking to be spoonfed then. Not trying to be a dick but that's how you'll gain an objective pair of eyeglasses with which to see the world. Trump isn't that bad, he's a different president and speaks his mind a lot but even when faced with damnation for his views, it ends up benefiting him in various ways. He's not bound by the left/right dog & pony show that we've become accustomed to dealing with and openly mocks it, a great deal of people like that. The ones that don't were the same old reactionaries already present in the shitshow, they're the ones who voted to build treachery in our nation, while inviting foreign powers into controlling our democratic-republic. If you really want to learn any sort of truth, you need to get out there and read bills, it's okay to note what MSM talking points are but they have to be verified in the relevant bills or presidential actions. Trump hasn't done squat but attempt to rip America back from the cliff it was striding off of, now it has the gall to bitch because it bumped its head while being saved.

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Brainlet detected.

Contributing just as much as you would in a capitalist society. No wonder you want socialism.

I don't. Kikes hate limelight and they're getting too much for comfort with this president.

Yet you still constantly hear most trumptards tell you that they're our greatest ally. I got banned from t_d within 3 minutes of even mentioning the kike problem, so the mainstream is still clueless.

Maybe answer the question yourself instead of asking for a circle jerk while claiming to not want one.

>t_d
There's your problem, even /ptg/ on /pol/ is anti-Israel. So "most" means you're listening to bluepilled normies, I recommend you stop that.

Can't win without the normies tho. We need their support in the end. I don't listen to them, I want them to listen. How do you think we can redpill the masses?

That's what I'm getting at. People for some reason don't see how Trump is setting a glorious stage using Rand and others to pressure kikes. They should be paying closer attention because when Trump "discovers" Israel did 9/11 (he already knows), it'll seem like the biggest betrayal of faith in mankind's history. Posted similar in another thread but it's dying, many already know Israel was behind 9/11 and Trump hasn't said who. Since we aren't going to war with Iran and/or Saudi Arabia that leaves few things to chance as to who he means, he just can't say it outright without becoming "literal Hitler".

MMT? We supply all our own food and fuel, so we can just print money without much repercussion?

Meh, I don't have any faith in that whatsoever. If that turns out to be true I'll be happy. But so far it just seems he does everything for Israel and it doesn't seem like it's changing anytime soon.

Venezuela and Zimbabwe can also print as much currency as they want. Once the US dollar loses its reserve currency status, how does having a mountain of devalued currency solve the problem?

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The dude does nothing but talk shit. I can't go a day without hearing about politics.
>Trump wants to go to war this week
Oh shit he does?
>Oh no he changed his mind
Thank fuck
>Trump said some stupid shit this week. We're going to talk about it for weeks even though nobody is surprised or cares
Then fuckin stop
>Trump supporter hit somebody with a car
Oh fuck, jesus
>Some lefty also hurt somebody
Just make it all stop. It's all so tiring

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What has he actually done for Israel besides move a building and approve funds penned under the Obama administration? Condemning antisemitism actually helps the white nationalist crowd because it means less focus on racial slurs and more focus on punishing the crimes kikes are guilty of. The kike's sole power lies in being able to cry antisemitism, without it he has no protection.

Dude you sound like some lib Russiagater. There's no 4d chess.

How does the left keep getting destroyed then?

He's pushing they're agenda of more immigration. He's still letting illegals come into the US and he hasn't built a wall even though he could have just done it without congress on day one. He also let a jew marry his daughter and live in the white house. And he's threatened Iran, possibly gonna attack Iran. He's attacked Assad even though everyone knows it's a Jewish false flag and there was no nerve gas.

What? You're talking about some weird "guys, Trump is actually *playing* the Jews" conspiracy. That's crazy.
And as far as I'm concerned, the Democrats are just fuckin incompetent. They'd probably actually win if they fully embraced AOC and her girlfriends. But that'd upset their wallstreet donors so they don't and won't.

While making it infinitely harder to migrate? Nice hot take, you got quite a few talking points in there. The wall gets built on daily, minus some places where activist judges have stalled construction pointlessly. He got quite a bit of money out of congress by tricking them on the omnibus spending bill, you know the one that overshadowed Bush's 9/11 "war on terror" funding? He repurposed funds that congress had already been abusing for their own ends, hoping and prying for a war with Iran that won't happen.

He forced Pelosi to embrace them when they were hopelessly marginalized, now they have no hope of reelection.

>He forced Pelosi to embrace them when they were hopelessly marginalized, now they have no hope of reelection.
He really didn't. The Dems aren't going to adopt their policies. There's gonna be another bullshit bill asking people to condemn Trump's comments, it'll fail, and everybody will move on.
I know it's Huffpost, but there's a pretty great article about how corrupt new York machine politics are so intertwined with the Dems now, and explains why they're spent so much energy trying to shut AOC et Al up.

huffpost.com/entry/nancy-pelosi-has-lost-control_n_5d2cb605e4b032ea741220ad

SDNY is corrupt, who do you think helped facilitate 9/11? Anyways I gotta crash out. Have to work in the morning like a good little wagie.

You're right, he did fuck us over on that too.

Since he initiated trade war with Chine all electronics I buy has gone up in price alot since they used to be free from import tax.

Trump hasn't benefitted anybody but himself at the expense of the taxpayer. That's it. Nobody can list anything about how he has benefited anybody because he has only benefited his rich friends. Some bootlicking retard talking about the stock market or low unemployment fails to realize that that shit is meaningless when wages are low and people have to work multiple jobs just to be able to survive, half of America makes less than 15 dollars an hour, half of America has less than 500 dollars in savings, three fourths of Americans live paycheck to paycheck, 40 million Americans live in poverty and hunger (most of them live in red states by the way), 30 million Americans are uninsured, half a million Americans are homeless, there is crippling debt, healthcare is unaffordable, education is unaffordable, and housing is unaffordable. Trump didn't cause this, of course. Trump is just symptom. There is nothing great about what he's doing either. Republicans hate the poor. You have more in common with a homeless person in Skid Row than you'll ever have with Trump.