Are there any married Yea Forumsros here? How much should I pay for an engagement ring...

Vro that's fuckin cheap and you can't really get shit at that price

Rings are a scam perpetuated by the Jewelry Industry. Diamonds are extremely common and not really worth what people think they are. They can make them in labs for fuck's sake.

I straight up told me fiance I wasn't getting her a 3000 dollar rock and she was fine with it.

If she insists on one though you better spend at least 800-900 dollars absolute bare minimum.

Really OP? My wife's ring was $19,000.

if she looks like that pay more, like 300

3 months gross salary or more/less?

$100-$200 should be fine. Save your money for a house and experiences like traveling.

19,000 on a mineral that can't do anything that cost

Just over a month's gross salary.

>is 100 enough
really you want at least 120. make sure its -sterling- silver and not stainless steel

>$100
Jesus, I bought my wife a $3500 ring and her mother still calls me a cheapfuck to this day

Marriage is supposed to be about love but damn. If $100 is all you can afford then maybe you shouldn't be getting married.

Hey random question, is there any way someone would know a diamond was lab created and not just ultra super high end natural?

I mean, a pro could tell with a loupe but would a mom and cousins ever know if I just kept my mouth shut?

Spend about a grand on a decent ring.

It shows you took the time and effort to save the money and that it really means something to you.

Even if she is a frugal person, a 100 dollar ring would strike a bit of salt from any woman.

I spent about $20,000 on the stone alone, not counting all the other jewelry she got in the last six years.

OP, the answer lies somewhere between what you want to spend and what I spent. The way you figure that out is you tell us both of your ages and occupations and plans for the future.

If you are 28 and have an engineering job, $100 is just cruel to her. If you are both 19 and work at starbucks and going back to college in a month, it might be a nice placeholder.

I spent almost nothing on the rings, like maybe $100. the entire wedding was only like $1000. it isn't about money.

are you marrying your picture related?

To add: a bit more money spent on a ring will also come with warranties and guarantees.

Most are lifetime.

Nobody could tell with a loupe, almost nobody could tell with a high-powered microscope. At the minimum you need super high-end lab gear to test conclusively.

You dont want to lie to her about it tho, if you send it for appraisal and insurance documentation, they will note it on the certificate and then your divorce will cost more than the real diamond would.

Source:
Im a former diamond grader working in an appraisal laboratory.

Good luck with that

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It depends on your financial situation. If you're dirt poor and she doesnt care about it that much, make sure your proposal is a good one and that'll be enough (for now, upgrade when you have the money). But if you have a decent stable job, you spend more. Its about showing her what shes worth, through the proposal or the ring. People who are cheap fucks will always tell you bot to spend too much, but when her friends get engaged and have a 10,000 dollar ring, she'll start to wonder. So, it's entirely dependent on your economic status and her views. Personally, spent 12k. Well with it in the reactions from her, Her friends, her family. Do your research on clarity, brightness, types of bands, etc. Getting married is a big deal, dont half ass it.

ITT: Cucked by De Beers.

Just make sure it'll last and learn the designs she likes. For future reference, don't fuck up and get a different hardness on the engagement ring and wedding ring or that shit will wear down.

You would know, and that would be enough

3 months salary

Your MIL is a retard who fell for an industry scam Diamonds are worthless. It's like paying 3500 for a jar of air.

Who divorces someone because they got a synthetic diamond?

Or buying an iPhone, am I right?

>150
did you got it from a gumball machine? lol

It's still worth it money, just because diamonds were selected and mined a certain amount every year to inflate the price doesnt mean if he tried to sell it tomorrow they'd give him 5 bucks

i would give literally 0 shits.

i'd just get it insured for the real value as basic property, not a special 'diamond ring' insurance. same as a camera or tv.

Expect this reaction if you buy a 100 dollar ring. You can argue the moral route that it's not about the money but you'll still get this reaction

Buy a ring with a moissanite stone. No one can tell the difference. Spend less than a grand and look like a baller

Exactly. I mean at least an iPhone can stream porn. Android for life though.

A diamond could...cut something?

Most insurance places just do it as an addition to your personal property insurance. And yeah, youd still know you bought a fake diamond

He would get around 700 dollars if he sold it. You typically get 20% of the cost back.

Then the jeweler will have it reset or just put it on display for 3000.

Exactly. Still worth money

im not sure what youre getting at. if i bought it, obviously i know its a lab created. and if i dont care, then what?

actually i'm now thinking about starting a business that makes lab created diamonds with slight defects to better simulate ground-grown diamonds.

It's a complete scam. You'd have to drive a new car for probably decades to depreciate it 80%. These diamonds are not worth remotely close to what the industry charges. He could have bought the stone and sold it the next day and he'd get 20% value. That is not a wise way to spend your money.

This. It's almost identical to diamond, so close the difference is meaningless. It gives off a great glare in the right light.

What matters is getting the right style, a ring you know she'll like, not the specific figure you spent on it.

One i bought was 15k

I'm saying you'll have to lie if asked and you'll feel bad that you bought costume jewelry for a significant life event

mfw wife’s ring is a family heirloom I paid $0 for

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Best scenario right here

>diamonds are worthless
>that’s why they’re free everywhere

If she thinks your a dirty liar who lies... what else have you lied to her about?

The only way they insure diamonds is with an appraisal, not the number you tell them

Do you not believe their worthless lol cause they are

They will require an appraisal, they dont just insure it for what you say. At the absolute minimum, they will ask for the receipt.

Have you ever shopped for insurance?

No shit retard

spent $1,000 on the one I gave my wife

They’re*

One month salary.

I say that because if you're not willing or able to save that money up front, the marrige won't last when far more costly things come up while you're married.

>economics 101

If yall are young, it wont last. Dont spend to much money

Obviously they're not actually completely worthless. Diamonds have uses in industry. I mean old gum wrappers are worth something to someone.

But you're paying so much for them because De Beers convinced women that they were expensive by saying they were over and over again for decades. There is no reason for a diamond to cost more 3500 or 10,000 dollars or even 1000 dollars. They cost a fraction of that to mine clean and cut. People were just convinced a long time ago that they're worth that much.

If your wife leaves you because you told her her ring was natural and she discovered it was synthetic she clearly didn't care about you very much.

Congrats. I might not have lots of money to blow, but at least I'm not a retard

Too cheap I paid 4200 for my wife’s then another 2000 for the wedding band

Three months salary.

>attempting to guilt me into giving kay or debeers my money
get real

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this

If she really loves you 100$ is enough, just make it unique/personal.

If shes gold digger 100$ x 100 sounds more right.

this

Something is worth what somebody is willing to pay for it

There's no right answer. Spend enough so that it's "a lot" to you both, but not so much that it effects your financial future. (i.e. - don't ring up a bunch of debt.)

Imagine being wrong and having nothing to refute so you correct his grammar. We get it you overpaid on your ring it's cool.

Show her the truth about the diamond industry scam, and just get her a more expensive wedding ring. There is a reason the diamond trade is run by jews.

>>attempting to guilt me into giving kay or debeers my money

Pretending anyone is ever going to marry you.

YES BUT YOU CANNOT GET YOUR MONEY BACK BECAUSE IT'S NOT ACTUALLY WORTH THAT MUCH. WHAT ARE YOU NOT UNDERSTANDING. You will NOT get the 3500, or 19,000 or whatever you spent back it is GONE. You didn't pay for the cost of processing and setting the diamond you paid for the jeweler's vacation and his daughter's iPhone.

5k is minimum

this
heirloom >> the best today's average wage can afford

its a piece of metal, and the good ones only need a few bucks for professional cleaning and last for whatever many generations of offspring that wish to keep using it. ask your momma/grandma, there might be a timeless masterpiece laying around in the attic somewhere.

Christ my dude. If I buy a diamond for $1,000, could I not turn around and sell it for some price above $0? Diamonds are not worthless. Bringing in the cost of services is irrelevant.

autismo is on a tear.

The point he made was that you are certainly loosing money when buying an diamond ring, you cunt.

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If you bought a ring for $1,000 and sold it for $300 you didn't make $300 dollars you lost $700. The diamond didn't do anything for you so you didn't make any money off of it. It was a $1,000 investment that netted you -700.

Were not talking about making money or appreciation. He said diamonds are worthless. They aren’t. People pay for them everyday.

Tough concept I know

>How much should I pay for an engagement ring?
as little as possible, and never tell anyone what you actually spent. When I got engaged I bought the ring for $35 off a wholesaler. Saw the same ring being sold in a store for $600.

get out of here, debeers shill.

If you bought a ring for $1,000 and sold it for $300 you didn't make $300 dollars you lost $700.

I dropped around $12000 total. Had the band custom designed and hand picked the center diamond.
Worth it to be able to fuck this ass anytime i want.

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THIS. You can get a ring custom designed by a local whitesmith for a few hundred bucks and you're guaranteed to have something unique and personalized. Or you can go to some jew in the mall and spend thousands on an ugly rock and $100 of gold that 30 other people in the city have.

And diamonds are the biggest scam of all; they look like shit, they're common as shit, and the only people who like them are shit.

cool story bro

>ITT: Cucked by De Beers.
echo that red leader

gotta say thanks to all the retards in here trapping themselves with stupid bitches who only care about shiny rocks though, get those whores off the street

So your wife wouldn't have married you if you had gotten a $500 ring?

>you'll have to lie if asked and you'll feel bad
LOL

Buddy. If you sell it for anything at all, it has worth. It’s not about making money on top of your initial investment. That’s a different subject altogether. You won’t make money on your car either, would you also call that worthless? Assuming you don’t drive a POS

I believe you. Want some of my paint chips? they're delicious!
/imports water direct from flint, MI

Your car is actually doing something. It is a machine with form AND function. The ring does nothing but look pretty. It has no moving parts and is not going through any wear and tear through normal use. Comparing the two is like comparing apple and hand grenades. If you want to be on the same level, you need to compare it to something similarly useless but assigned value by retards, like pokemon cards.

based.

You're taking my use of the word "worthless" as literal when we both know what I meant. I was referring to the relative disparity of buying something, walking out of a store, walking back into the store, and selling it back for 20% of what you paid for it. That is a scam. If you can't see that good luck to you Buddy.

> You won’t make money on your car either, would you also call that worthless?

The car has a legitimate reason for depreciating in value. And the car is actually useful after you buy it.

3 Month's salary is = to $100 for many for the Yea Forumstards and neckbeards here.

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I paid 3000$.
Every time she looks at it, she thinks of you.
She shows her friends proudly.
She gives it to her granddaughter someday to wear.

Women use this as a gauge to determine their value.

Nothing less than 1 karat.

If you can’t afford it now, wait until you can

nice try big diamond

Ask her. My wife and I had a limited budget and realized if we skipped the engagement ring completely and got local custom artisan wedding rings, we could use the stupid "diamond money" to have a great honeymoon. So we did (she was dubious on the idea of wearing one all the time anyway). It's nice when the rings you actually wear are the interesting ones.

She’s not even wearing it, you clown.

Some perceived notion of intrinsic value based on work is irrelevant. It doesn’t matter why somebody wants to pay for something. For that matter, I assure you there are plenty of people that pay up the ass for things that you would likewise deem pretty but without function. That doesn’t make them worthless. A painting doesn’t do anything. You know how much those can be worth.

Oh my God are you serious. A painting can appreciate in value. A diamond will only, ever, depreciate.

That's because it's a random image he got online.

How much is acceptable to spend on a ring if I want to propose to my bf?
We both work min wage jobs but I have more disposable cash. He has told me before that he wants to marry me.
I am more conservative than him and dont want to emasculate him but I really love him. He can hardly support himself and I know that if he could he would get me a ring. I'm willing to support him financially but be submissive in every other way.
Is it a bad idea to propose to him? Are men's rings expected to he cheaper?

>can

Pawn shops or something meaningful.

If she is willing to take a $100 ring and not bat an eye about it, get a better one. Nothing wrong with a $100 one, my wife wanted a pandora ring... seriously, not what she ended up with though

>Implying that's not the reason most wealthy people purchase art

They're tax havens.

Wow. Just wow. Why waste money on something that will never be worth what you paid for it again?

No don't listen to us user they're great things to buy you should make a business buying diamonds from wholesalers and reselling them you'll make bank just ask Drew Brees.

Don't listen to all these stupid incels saying don’t buy an expensive ring or the diamond industry is a sham. Women like shiny fucking rocks. Simple as that. Buy her a fucking expensive diamond ring or you’re going to be chucked and she’ll fuck someone who isn’t a cheap bitch like yourself. 3-5k will get you a nice engagement and wedding band

That's not so much grammer but spelling.

bought my wife a $140 ring with her birth stone on it and she absolutely loves it
but she's not the materialistic type so

t. single faggot

Dont do it, he will feel bad. Better to wait for him

Took my girl to the jewelry store, said your budget is X get what you want. The store and my wife both appreciated they understood what they were working with, what my wife could afford, and my wife got to customize the ring to get exactly what she wanted. Then I bought it, and gave it to her a few weeks later after a date. Worked out well.

500 USD is what I went for. I got something more personal and custom from a designer on Etsy rather than giving some greedy jewelry company 2K USD for an equivalent. Also, fuck diamonds and the diamond industry. Go with synthetic or another stone. Don't give DeBeers your money if you can avoid it.

Nigga 100 fucking $ man?
What are you a fucking minimum wage worker at mcdonald's?

Get lost you fucking nigger

moar of her user

I was talking about women.

I spent about 4K

>Is 100 bucks enough

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I spent about $1k total engagement and wedding ring.
Dont overpay.

Don't fall for all that DeBeers marketing bs. Watch YouTube debeers and learn about the monopoly that they created to artificially control the supply and price of crystallized carbon that's no where near as rare as they want u to believe.

I got my wife a moissanite in a platinum setting and she loves it. Just under 4k total
And yes she feels the same as me regarding diamonds.

Don’t spend a lot.... My wife lost her $900 wedding band. What a waste of money....

idiot lol , all those USA assholes spend tons of money on crap, rings, weddings and shit cars, worst is , most even loan the money for it or use their credit cards

Lol, where’s the ring? Up her ass?

3 weeks you mean!

Worth and cost aren't the same.

The diamond industry forced diamond manufacturers to embed a photo sensitive product in their diamonds. The artificial ones glow under ultraviolet light

You have about 50% chance of divorce so wedding band and engagement should be $3k or less total. Also have a $1,000 wedding and spend wedding and honeymoon money on a house.

I made a ring out of some old washers. She's very country and she loved it.

This won't help him unless he buys the house before getting married, and gets her to sign off on a prenup.