For all of US history, conservatives have been on the wrong side

For all of US history, conservatives have been on the wrong side.

Conservatives in 1776 were on the side of the Crown.

They were the Confederacy.

They were the KKK.

They were on the side of the Robber Barons.

They were anti-suffragists.

They were anti-civil rights.

They were anti-LGBTQ rights.

They're anti-healthcare, anti-education, anti-environment right now.

With their failure to address Russia's attacks on our elections and their refusal to hold Trump accountable for his crimes, they're also now anti-democracy.

They have always been the bad guys in US history. Every single generation we've had has had to fight them tooth and nail to make progress. We win, and we leap forwards with policies like the abolition of slavery, or the vote for women, or child labor laws, or civil rights, or abortion, or gay marriage, but their wealthy owners sit back and regroup and launch another attack on civilization after a few years.

And it works. Specifically because conservatives are tribalist cavemen who will do whatever their Big Chief tells them to do. They're authoritarians by nature who believe that right and wrong don't come from structured moral philosophies, but from whatever their chieftain tells them is right or wrong. What's true or false.

They're weak-minded children at heart, who yearn for an all-powerful father figure to provide easy structure to their world. Because they cannot handle the complexities of real life. Because the burden of free thought is too much for them to handle. And because they are fundamentally terrified of change. Change, above all, is beyond their understanding, and they know it.

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Cool. Thanks

Conservative here. All I have to say is k thanks. Now stop making noise please.

> stop saying things I don't like!

get lost snowflake

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Identifying yourself as conservative or liberal is idiotic. Are you saying that there isn’t one position the other side has that you can agree with? Are you so fucking self centered that you are unwilling to consider another point of view?

I can't believe a Blacked thread died for this post. fuck you OP

Stop lusting after black cock

not a liberal, way to jump to conclusion with no evidence, you fucking moron...

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If you really believe all of these things you say, then you need to read up on conservatism because you completely missed the point. Conservatism is a pretty broad brush to paint someone with.

you're wrong you ginger cunt.
(totally down to gangbang you btw)
lincoln was the first republican
the confederacy was democrats
kkk also democrats (ask that racist pat sajak)

trump administration has done more against russia than any administration since Regan.

do you think someone who illegally sold russia uranium would do a better job addressing Russian attacks on joke of an election?

No I do all the time when the conversation is reasonable. Happy to in fact but when it's some little 12 year old insulting me on the Internet my position becomes hard and binary. A more accurate description of me is libertarian but that doesn't work in the scope of what op is trying to do. So for the sake of his attempts to insult I'm a Conservative.

Lincoln was a Republican but he was also a liberal

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damn i cant wait for school to start again all these kids are giving me a headache with their constant repeating of the shit the know nothing about. they're just repeating it

>he actually thinks it's democrats under those hoods

0/10

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Even the term libertarian has lost all meaning. There are supposed libertarians supporting the building of a wall which is anti libertarian on many levels
-government spending
-taking private land
-closing borders

>They're weak-minded children at heart, who yearn for an all-powerful father figure to provide easy structure to their world.
Bold claim for a big government shill

and the liberals back then were far more conservative than modern conservatives

>conservative
>kkk
Sure is summer in here.

Great bait filled with historical inaccuracies.
It'll be a funny day when Trump wins 2020

Translation: I don’t like Conservatives! Conservatives did all the bad things!

Depends on your definition. Democrats were for small weak government. Republicans were for strong federal government. Republicans wanted to increase wages and raise taxes. The democrats were closer to libertarian so yes they were liberal in the classical sense. The republicans were liberal in the modern sense.

>US
>history
Stopped reading there, also contributing to the YLYL

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It is. Filthy racist democrats.

Lol true

Picking a side in our two party system doesn't mean you agree with everything that side is for, though with Republicans these days, its starting to become an all or nothing deal.
For example, there's a growing number of "liberals" who support firearms, especially because the NRA has become nothing but a racist joke.

Btw fun fact nazis were socialists. Good work to every antifa member creaming himself by being yet another jew killer

I am a “liberal” who:
-owns guns and doesn’t want to have them taken
-thinks the welfare system is broken and needs to be fixed so that less money is spent and people work instead of getting checks
-doesn’t support universal healthcare
-supports free trade(when did the republicans stop supporting that?)
-thinks that if you should be allowed to deny service to anyone for any reason if you own a private business

Nazis were socialist but they also were conservatives who were ultra nationalist. They hated outsiders and didn’t believe in a free ride for anyone. Can’t really put everything in a neat little box. They were unlike either side in American politics

Shut up slavery sympathizer you'll never trick me into letting my black brothers and sisters follow you to your plantations. Fucking dems.

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That's not true they were authoritarian socialists, it's JUST like the current state of the left. Easy compare

it's refreshing to banter with you; somone who knows their shit.

what's your take on Roosevelt's progressive bullmoose party platform?

ask pat sajak
proud kkk member

The current left isn’t nationalist.

The current left isn’t authoritarian (despite what you think)

The current left is inclusive

The current left is trying to let more people into the country not kick them out

The current left doesn’t support the death penalty for criminals

wow. wrong much?

I personally believe he was the last great president and his split with the Republicans started a trend in the Republican Party that continues to this day of support of big money and lack of individual rights

Now I know that people on the right will say the democrats are controlled by big money and I don’t argue that. Both sides are. I am a free market capitalist and that means politics out of money but also money out of politics. And both sides think their rights are getting taken away because they are only concerned about there own rights not universal individual rights.

So yes the Democratic Party sucks and always has. But you asked about Roosevelt and his split with the Republicans. I wish he had more support and would have been able to keep Republicans on track instead of the way Taft took it

OmG shut the fuck up

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Hard to hear things that you disagree with? Neither side is like the Nazis and saying they are is just ignorant

losing side, not wrong side

>>OmG, stop showing that I have no idea what the fuck I'm talking about

It's not inclusive if I can't give my opinion because of trivial things like my race/gender.

Been a white male since I was born, and I've literally never heard a leftie tell me to STFU because of that. Generally, they just seem to want to hear people who actually know what they're talking about, instead of ignorant opinions.

liberals lose a lot it's just more changes when they win so it's more noticeable

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you're a fuckin idiot.
the modern fascist lobbies for soy feelings and chicks with dicks. they call themselves socialist but the truth is they're just neets who are incapable of organizing themselves let alone aligning their goals/demands.

like the occupy movement. they had the chance to make their demands and they didn't even know wtf they wanted. but hey thanks for fucking up the park instead of actually sticking it to the banksters with congestion. applying for frivolous loans (i need a billion dollars for an ant farm) which the bank is legally obligated to process and vet because if they don't you could sue the bastards for discrimination.

those antifa twats don't have what it takes to kill a cockroach or a jew.
apologies for being redundant
the pansies cant even take down a pudgy mouth breathing maga dork without their comrades jumping in.
whereas the nazis were straight up educated killing machines selflessly loyal to a cause for the benefit of the state.
these Marxists have no value beyond their own wants and desires which include the masturbatory self gratification of the pissing contest virtue signaling has become.

all those children ought to have been left behind and stripped of their participation trophys.

It should be said that Democrats are nothing but marginally preferable in the short term. They people who gave up all this ground to right wing extremism are not your saviors and should be the first brands in the chopping block the moment the right has been adequately suppressed. Right wing thought is incapable of coexistence in a society with freedom. It is too obsessed with its own brand of identity and respectability politics to collaborate with any group or society that does not meet it narrow requirements. They are every bit as reclusive and inbred as the extreme Islamic societies they claim to hate but seem to make every effort to emulate. There is no escaping the fact that Whether you’re wearing a grey tailored suit or an Arabian robe, religious authoritarianism and targeted ethnic discrimination have definition that do not change.

Lyndon B. Johnson, 36th President of the United States: “i’ll have those niggers voting Democratic for 200 years.”

I was at occupy Wall Street and was shouted down because I was a white male, even though what I was proposing would've been a whole hell of a lot more effective than smoking weed and camping in a park

Well I have the opposite view, been to plenty of events where I'm trying to side FOR abortion and I get people screaming at me before I can even agree with them because I'm a male. Done with that bigotry. I want sexism gone, I don't want to bring it back.

Omg you're right

oh this post again

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Wtf..you beat me to it, but that was exactly the plan I was shouted down at occupy for proposing, the only way it got heard by a bunch of people is I talked to a bunch of comedians about it and somehow Doug Stanhope ended up saying it on a special he recorded

The fact that you blatantly condemn and vilify the party that half of America voted for shows how brainwashed you are.

Not op, but that half of Americans deserves a bullet and a ditch.

Very wrong bitch google it. Democrats founded the KKK and have attempted to block every civil rights initiative being passed through congress.

*13% and a ditch seems extravagant

When the Democrats ere the kkk guess who voted for them almost unanimously.

Fair enough.

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let's shake hands

i would like to see the bullmoose party revived. with help from people like you it can happen.

bullet's extravagant when a shovel to the back of the head'll do

i applied for a million dollar loan to take pictures at national parks...
it was approved. (thanks predators)

so i have a lot of hand written and over priced work orders and a bankruptcy lmfao

best part is btc was shit value back then and safe on cold storage so i can trump my way back up utilizing the crooked laws corporate America installed. even with the perspective bear market crypto is I'm still sitting pretty.

and that's how being drug addled misguided anarchist trolling a bank and accepting horrible debt then filling bankruptcy turned me into a tax dodging billionaire by accident.

no ones buying your lies shill.
what you're doing is pointless and makes you look retarded.
we all know you're a shill.
average Americans don't think like you.

OH FUCK I BET THIS IS ILHAN OHMAR

hur dur MUH BOTH SIDES R DUH SAME

That wasn't real conservatism tho. This time it's significant.

The Republicans were the liberals back then.
The parties flipped after they abolished slavery, and Lincoln ran as a democrat his second term.

Nazis were not actually socialists.
The facists hi-jacked the socialist party in germany and kept the name, but they sent all the socialists to concentration camps before the jews.

Night of long knives.

The nazis proceded to call themselves socialist but there was nothing socialist about them. Much like how Democratic Republic of North Korea is NOT an actual democratic republic.

Great job falling for that bullshit when history books have been around for decades.

You must feel so smart.

Capitalism sent all the jobs to China.

Capitalism gave all the countries wealth to only three people (from China)

Democratic Socialism is the future.

conservative doesnt mean status quo. It mean the belief that people should succeed o9r fail on their own. Businesses should be left alone and trusted to do the right thing. That underpaid or mistreated employees quit.

Its never been about keeping things the same. Sadly the liberals do have a point as safeguards and safety nets for both people and employees are needed

Corporations historically in the early industrial era treated employees like cattle.

That's why we had to revolt and create regulations and labor unions in the first place.

USA is already a socialist country.

Why anyone would want to go back to the great depression makes no sense to me.

This is all Trump supporters have to debate with is logical fallacies.

Ad hominem

No true scotsman

Hell, have you walked through a mall recently? dam place is a ghost town. we almost are in the next great depression.

Shitty quality bait op you fag

Good bait my dude.