Has anyone here managed to have sex? What's it like? How do find someone willing to try it with you?

>Has anyone here managed to have sex?
Yes
>What's it like?
Bags of sand
>How do find someone willing to try it with you?
I searched the internet and paid 200€ for some girl

eh different strokes for different niggas, don't stress my guy stay strong

Are guys less confusing? Women make no sense. I'm not into dudes though, so I guess I'm stuck with women's craziness.

I can't read social signals, so I have no idea if anyone finds me attractive or not. I have nice conversations with people, and they seem to enjoy it. Do they then expect me to make a move, or if I try something am I just a potential rapist? I have no clue.

probably fucking definitely but I hate dick so yuh

not op but.. i haven't fucked anyone, not kissless though at least.. i did have a brief moment with a girl but she was desperate. could of made something of it but at that time i was broke financially and just.. not in a good place to waste anyone's time. so i ignored her.

i think it's best to work on yourself, have something to offer yourself and others, whether it be a job or a car so it's easier to tie down a relationship. not saying it can't happen without these things but they are definitely important.

You probably don't want to hear this, but sex actually kinda sucks unless you're with a person you care about. Try to find a girlfriend / boyfriend first

or you give a damn how you act and just getting an escort every now and then. it'll save you a lot of hassle and time. i may have the advantage that i'm not unattractive, but as for the rest, just fuck it and get a nice lady booked

Dude wtf just ask every chick you see.. Wanna fuck? Ask enough one will say yes.. Especially married chicks.

>but sex actually kinda sucks

sex feels great if you don't have a mutilated jewdick

Try online dating. You know for a fact that the women there are looking for someone. Take some good pics, not just selfies but have some with friends and family. As long as you're reasonably attractive, you can at least find some girls to date here and there and may even fuck some. Just dress decent and keep yourself reasonably groomed.

>job or car
Is this really all people expect out of a partner? I've got a good job, nice car, nice house. None of it seems to matter. I'm tired of people saying to just focus on career. It's all bullshit.

>reasonably attractive
You see, my face is my LEAST attractive feature and no matter how much I try to make up for it with cool pics and bio, no girl wants anything to do with me based off initial appearances. I look worse than Casey Neistat. I feel like connecting with people in person is much easier and my personality can outshine my looks but online it’ll never happen. Been trying for years.

personality does matter, if you can make her laugh and smile regularly then a car and a job is probably in 3rd place

I'd much prefer to find a gf to have sex with. But apparently finding a relationship is much harder than just finding sex, at least in modern society. That said, I'm not in any position to choose, so I'll take what I can get.
That sounds like a great way to get labeled as a sexual deviant and ostracized from society. Best case scenario, I'd just get slapped.

No. Ali girls hate me. I havent even had a conversation with a girl in years. Some of us have been dealt a shitty hand in life and we are better off not even playing

>implying I have friends who will take pictures with me
Is online dating even an option for an average looking guy? Seems like women are only looking for the best of the best in online dating.
Isn't a car and a job pretty much the bare minimum to be considered a functioning adult? I can joke around and have fun, but only in a purely platonic sense. How do you get from that to the next step?

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Nigga, EIGHTEEN!! If your in your 30's, 17 can give you 10 years of guaranteed buttsecks with Tyrone.

Honestly, if you can't find someone in your personal life, try online dating.

You realize that men outnumber women 10:1 on dating sites? Just google it if you do not believe me.

How often do you get matches there? How often does that actually lead to a date? Is it all based on looks, or does your profile actually matter?

I did it for a year. Depending on the site, you can find cool people. Dont take the incel approach and think that you need to literally be Thor Hemsworth to get laid. Women are people too. Just talk to girls, get good at conversation. Try to be interesting, or at least fake it. There are going to be girls who dont respond, move on to the next. You'll evenrually hit someone who you jive with.

All based on looks.

I've been on a more than a few tinder dates but i've fucked them all up by being an alcoholic.

All the chicks I've slept with have been from my personal life.

So what? It doesn't mean you wont find anyone. It's how I dated before I found my fiance.

In my hometown are areas that are famous for their prostitutes. Those girls have always pimps/brothels. They even pay income tax. You are nothing more than a paying customer to them. They will treat you with the same politeness like a hairdresser would. So if you're getting a prostitute to fuck, try to treat it as professional as they will.
Seriously, who gives a fuck what a literal whore thinks?
Fuck her and pay her.

Do not listen to this shilling faggot.
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What site do you recommend? I don't know how to pretend to be interesting, so it's hard to appear interesting to new people.
Well if it's all based on looks, then I'm pretty much out of luck. How did you fuck up your dates? Did you show up drunk or something?

Essentially yes.

I'd been with the same girl for 10 years and tinder was the first thing I tried when it came to being single again. I'm also a pretty heavy drinker, and when heavy drinkers go into a situation where it's socially acceptable to be a bit buzzed, they show up fucking sloshed.

Also(i'm the alcoholic) but to answer your other question: OK Cupid.
I met a really nice girl there who wasn't in it for the looks and ended up dating her for 2 years before the alcoholism ruined that too.

>I don't know how to pretend to be interesting
I would suggest going out more, taking up more hobbies, maybe volunteering. spend as little time as you possibly can in your house. You'd be surprised how quickly you can become interesting

I'd say looks are a little important. Keep yourself groomed and dress well. If you're out of shape it's going to be a bit harder whether you're skinnier or more on the heavy side. If you don't want to change your lifestyle, you have to accept that it will be harder, but can find people. As long as you look like you take care of yourself and come off as a genuine person you still have a good shot

>Best case scenario, I'd just get slapped.
that's best case because then you can sue them if you film it

Tinder is 100% looks, I'd say if you're looking for someone, don't use Tinder. I've had a lot of success with Bumble and PoF before my fiance.

Thankfully, my alcoholic tendencies didn't ruin my relationship like user's above, I've gotten better but when I get a night out with the guys, I tend to do some coke as well.

What do normal people talk about on dates? I go biking in the summer and skiing in the winder, but there isn't a huge amount to talk about there.
Genuine how so? I'm me, even though being me hasn't gotten me much success. Is that genuine?

Yes lmao
Good, nigger; why the fuck do you think the human race continues to exist?
>what's it like
dumb nigger
actually talk to other people and don't be repulsive
if you are repulsive, try to find a fetish site and
well idfk I'm not repulsive, never had to try for some kind of fucked up pity sex

>but there isn't a huge amount to talk about there

you're overthinking it. you can talk about anything, just don't be overbearing. feel the room

This.

The human race continues to exist because normal people have sex. We're on a board full of weirdos and outcasts. I'm not sure how much these demographics line up with normal society.

"Genuine" in this context I have found to mean being 100% invested in the girls interests and being excited about asking her questions and learning more about whatever it is that she's passionate about. OR being 100% passionate about whatever it is that you bring up. If you say "I go skiing but it's no big deal" vs. a detailed breathless explanation of your most recent trip down a hill, the latter will always get the better response.

Preferably you'd want to mix in a bit of both.

So, you talk for a while, and then
???
and then sex?

you're a lost cause. hang yourself

Jesus, are you autistic? (legit question)

You form a bond based on shared interests or life events and this bond, combined with mutual attraction forms intimate desire.

So do you think people are actually interested in hearing about that sort of thing? Even if nothing particularly eventful happened during the trip?
Dunno, never diagnosed, but I wouldn't be terribly surprised. I've never formed a bond like that, so I don't know how it works. So after you talk for a while, what's the next step?

DAMNIT JIM WE'RE TRYNA GET A BOII LAID HERE MORALES ISN'T IN THE PICTURE ;)

Depends on the site/app. Tinder, bumble, badoo, Hinge, those sorta swipe apps are entirely based on looks. If you're not Chad, good luck buddy.

OkCupid, match.com, Chemistry.com, Plenty of Fish, etc. the girls there aren't as hot but they're desperate and usually have better personalities. They'll respond to guys who are average to slightly below average. The hottest girls are usually single moms, if that's your thing.

Take your pick my man.

Turned 18 on the 11th, lost my virginity on the 12th to my girlfriend of 6 months.

Later virgins!

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I'm both of the anons you replied too:

YES they find that shit interesting as long as you MAKE IT INTERESTING! Don't just describe putting your snowboard on and strapping it to your feet and then choosing which hill to go down. Describe how it made you FEEL describe the excitement you get when just about to descend, describe the feeling of adrenaline as you shoot down the hill, tell her about how accomplished you felt after moving to black diamond or whatever. The trick isn't to talk about cut and dry shit that guys would want to know(where and when did you go, what gear did you use, how much did it cost ect...) but to talk about your feelings. Women respond to passion.

As for your second question: you have formed a bond like this unless you have 0 friends. Your goal is to make a woman feel like you are her freind(yes I know there are exceptions and freaky girls out there but I'm just trying to give him the basics). Does not matter if you give 0 shits about early childhood education, what matters is that it SEEMS like you do.

Honestly, I'd be pretty happy with a single mom. I'm an uncle and I enjoy being around kids. The biggest concern there is that she's just looking for someone to pay child support and doesn't actually want to be with me.

I know it's ''redpilled' to hate single moms, but in the experience of myself and my best friend, they're the best. If you show that you're willing to make sacrifices for their kid and aren't a cheapskate, they'll basically do anything to make you happy, in and out of bed. They're not golddiggers, they just want someone who will offer to buy diapers or take them out to dinner and hire a babysitter.

I wish I still had passion. That would make things more interesting. I had passion in my early 20s, but now it seems like I'm just along for the ride.
As of right now, I do in fact have 0 friends. I've had lots of friends in the past, but we all went our separate ways. So I guess I've met some of the requirements, but the "mutual attraction" has never happened.

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So you think they're still looking for a sexual relationship? They didn't just burn out with their ex ad give up?

Who knows, maybe a few more years and I'll follow her. She seems nice.

Yo, I gotta go walk my dog now, but let me leave you with this:

Don't get bitter. When you become bitter, you have lost any hope of being with a woman. And I mean being with. You could still fuck one, but if what you want is a true relationship, then you have to work on yourself first. It's not easy and a lot of the trolls here will tell you to fucking kill yourself(which will always be an option after you try) but just give it a shot. I'm a hopeless alcoholic garbage human straight white dude, but because I give a fuck about myself and the things I love, I have women that I have to turn away. Love your fucked up garbage self first, and the rest will come in time my nigger.

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The ones I've been with were still young enough that they were definitely looking for something sexual. 20-26 usually.

That sounds great on paper. I wish I weren't bitter, but its easy to grow bitter after decades without ever experiencing the most basic human interaction. I don't know how to love myself. I'm not that great.
Hmm, dunno if people like that are looking for someone my age. They haven't hit the wall yet and can probably do better.

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Will have sex with anyone
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Still being a piece of shit and not walking my dog:

Look. I hate myself too. We all do on Yea Forums and will forever. But I also think "fuck everyone else" because it's goddamn true. Just because you're not great does not mean you are even approaching anything resembling close to the worst. I almost shot up my highschool. I stole money from my broke ass parents. And I'm still not even close to the bottom. And neither are you. EVERYONE FUCKING SUCKS.

Realize that women are PEOPLE and they most likely suck in their own fucked up ways as well. Treat them as equals. (For all you fucked up anons, yes I know they are not equals but if you treat them as such then it greatly increases the possibility of the desired results).

Also: Fuck you. Don't listen to me. I'm fucked up. Imma walk my pup now you degenerate putrid farthole stuffer.

People their age usually don't have the stable income or the maturity to be worth their time. It's single moms more than anyone who pull the "I'm looking for an older man who doesn't play games" card. Believe me, no 21 year old girl with a toddler wants to deal with a 21 year old guy who himself acts like a toddler and is likely to leave as soon as someone hotter comes along.

It’s pretty good. You should try it sometime.

it can be cool but i'm depressed and find it awkward now.

Go walk your dog then. Don't you dare reply to this. Doggo needs you!
Do you mean to say she's not also likely to leave as soon as someone hotter comes along?
I don't play games because I don't know what game I'm playing, but that's probably also why I'm losing.
How'd you find someone to do it with? Is it not awkward when you're not depressed? I've always assumed the first time at least will be awkward.

I haven't experienced this, because I was always the one to leave first, but I know in my friend's case, who isn't the hottest guy by any means, it depends on whether you make yourself indispensible. If you really try to bond with their kid and do things show that you're willing to be a potential father figure rather than just the guy who comes in, fucks Mommy and then leaves, she'll stick with you even if someone hotter comes along because she realizes she's got a good thing going here and it's unlikely to come around again.

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That's good to hear. I'm pretty good with kids. Hopefully if I find someone like that it will matter.

My first time was with a fat chick I met on FB years ago, probably closer to 2009. Fat chicks are fucking nymphos, not like I was complaining at the time, pussy is pussy. We ended up dating for a few years before I called it quits because she was giving ultimatums over me hanging out with friends. Fuck that.

Damn, what sort of ultimatums was she giving? That sounds pretty fucked up.
Are fat chicks more likely/willing to have sex with you? In my experience, they reject me just as quickly.

college, mostly. it's a playground of horny young people of the same age group. just going to parties meant it'd happen eventually. learned some basic social skills that got me a laid a few times post college from bars. idk though, getting naked and exchanging bodily fluids with a stranger started feeling odd. i think i grew out of the novelty of casual sex and want to actually connect with somebody first.

Man, I remember college parties. Everyone would get fucked up, and then everyone else would pair up and fuck. Literally everybody but me. I'd sit alone in the kitchen drinking while everyone else was busy fucking. Good times.

that was me at first. i had zero game and used completely embarrassing cliche pickup lines because i didnt know any better. i finally said fuck it and started saying whatever was on my mind. you realize that women will at respect honesty over contrived talk even if they're not interested. being genuine can be disarming and being rejected is hard at first, but you get numb to it. i was a completed different person by graduation.

yep
its overrated
you’re better off just jerking off

>I'm 33.

It's over user. You are a wizard now.

200e wtf?

Back then I would tell women I'm interested. Tell them I find them attractive. It never worked. Nowadays I'm scared to try that with anyone new. There's a good chance I'll accidentally cross some invisible line and get #metoo'd.
What sort of genuine things did you say that worked?
Easy to say if you get plenty of sex. Jerking off just doesn't cut it anymore after decades of no sex.
People my age still have sex, right? I'm not in the nursing home yet. How can I use my wizard powers to attract a partner?

I have kids. Sex is fantastic, just make sure you give your cosmonaut a space suit. Turns out birth control doesn't work if she's on certain medications.
As for how to find someone, let me outline a few steps.
1. Wash your self. Just because bitches like horses doesn't mean you should smell like one.
2. Work out. Look, she isn't expecting you to look like the rock, but she is expecting you to be able to clear a flight of stairs without getting winded.
3. This one might be the hardest, you have to actually talk to girls. Then you have to make a move.
4. Be comfortable with being rejected. If she says no, be cool about it. Behave in a way where it seems like it's her loss, espcially when it isn't. This will make you seem less creepy, and give you confidence.
5. Wake up every day and force yourself to feel like you just personally cured cancer. Women like confidence and optimism.

I shower twice a day. I go biking, hiking, and skiing. I may not win any body building competitions, but I'm not bad in that regard.
The hardest part is "making a move", whatever that means. I talk to people, and we have a grand old platonic time. But beyond that, I have no idea what to do. I don't know how to flirt, or even how to tell if someone is flirting. Why the fuck is this so complicated? And why does it seem so easy for everyone else?

i'd act like "i never go out" because they also want to feel unique and not just another face in the crowd. gently mock somebody trying too hard around you. act like there's no romantic intentions because they're used to being creep'd on by guys with ulterior motives. if they reciprocate conversation, suddenly you act like you just caught feelings. basically act like you never intended to do anything but talk because that'll put them at ease. and you'll end up actually enjoying casual conversation with girls when you see them enjoying themselves with you in a room full of other people.

I'm married, but it certainly wasn't easy for me. I've always been the chubby awkward guy, no matter what I did. My one saving grace has always been that I'm kinda funny. But don't try to pull funny if you can't, bad comedy is worse than silence. Sometimes you've got to stop thinking, and just leap. You don't need to be Casanova, you just need to be happy to be you. Once You learn to like you, everything gets better. Do whatever it takes to like you. I had to take up Boxing and fight regularly. But you gotta do you. You got any hobbies where you might interact with people?

no man

Yes. One girl I pressured into it and kind of feel bad about it, but she was very impressionable. I will say this, the best thing you can do is learn how to make a girl feel good. Spend a LOT of time on her., and don't immediately go for the vag. Focus on her neck, legs, sides, parts that will drive her nuts. If you've done your job she won't be able to resist and it will be her idea. This is of course assuming you've been able to engage in a relationship first.

maybe i'm coming across as sociopathic but this has worked for me

I do genuinely enjoy conversations with women. I never have an ulterior motive because I'd never have a shot if I did. I just go in for the sake of having the conversation. It's fun, but in the end she goes home to fuck Chad and I go home to masturbate.
I go hiking pretty regularly, and often with a group of women. Again, absolutely nothing even remotely resembling flirting goes on here. This is 120% platonic.

okay first things first. smell good be clean try to be attractive. have confidence and do some push ups. then find the courage to either meet a chick somewhere social thru friends or work. then try online. dont wanna bang the first day man that shit could be nasty. take your time and its worth it. super delicious wet warm tight and amazing to cover in cum

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That's like 10 steps beyond where I am right now. I haven't even managed to get a woman to go on a date with me. The only women who have been in my house are blood relatives. fml

Underwhelming tbh. Its just a slick meaty hole that is warm. don't get me wrong, it feels great. But it can be underwhelming depending on who you are fucking.

How fit and attractive do you need to be for this to work? My pushup game isn't very strong right now.

Yo! Back from walking my dog.

I'm sorry to ask but I HAVE to know what the fuck we are dealing with so take a pic and blur your face. I would normally never ask but since your life has been so goddamn depressing, I have to know if I'm trying to give regular human advice or if I'm trying to advise a goddamn golem on how to get laid.

You talk about sex as if it's some unattainable goal.... Seriously how much of an incel are you? How pathetic can you be? You think sex is something people may manage to stumble into once ever in their life? Man I could walk in the other room and fuck my GF right now or call one of my multiple side pieces..... I'm not even attractive... I'm poor fat and ugly to boot.... yet I have fucked over 100 women. What's your excuse incel? Holding out for some non-existent perfect virgin waifu? Too good to fuck a chubby chick or single mom? Too afraid of being ridiculed by a woman who knows how a good dicking is supposed to feel? Of course you are. You incels are the saddest most pitiful pieces of subhuman garbage I have seen. You are actually worse than Trump supporters.

Alcoholic, dog owning user here:

This is the kind of troll I was telling you about.

Ignore him.

This is absolute bullshit. I don't have to give a single fuck about a bitch to get off inside of her. Sex without hangups and emotional bullshit is the best. Casual meaningless absolutely physical sex is the best.

This. It's a numbers game.

Here you go. I'm rocking the dad bod.
It's not hard to get for most people, but for me, yes it is practically unattainable. At least so far. And I'd happily have sex with chubby chicks and single moms if they wanted to. That's never happened.

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> I've never been in a relationship and have no idea what actually satisfying my partner feels like.

With that attitude you definitely won't get laid. Go for ugly and/or fat chicks. Also older chicks. Lower your standards.

you have a defeatist attitude. also, to be honest, you have the "nice guy" act on lock. you asked how to get laid. then you say you just wanna talk to them and resent the guys who fuck them. i'm telling you they see through that. just being honest so you change that line of thinking and have sex.

Fuck you. Ignore me trying to help this dad sack of subhuman shit? Go fuck yourself cocksmith. Seriously this dude needs to man the fuck up and stop being such a beta cowardly faggot. If he keeps living in his own head like that he is going to end up shooting up a school. No one wants that. He needs to stop being a bitch and get his dick wet. It's not hard. Sure the rejection will suck as he plays the numbers game but when he finally gets to nut in some single mom fat girl pussy he will thank me.

I know if I tried to push things further I'd probably lose the existing friendly relationship I have. Plus she'd tell all her friends how much of a creep I am. Trying to advance to relationship is so terrifying and has so many possible negative outcomes, I don't know how normal people even try.

Do you find any of the women you hike with attractive?

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Homie. Here is what you do. Get meetme and POF. On MeetMe hit up every single chick in your area and ask if they want to hook up. Target ages like 25 to 55. Don't rule out older sluts. On POF set search filters for casual dating/no commitment and wants to date but nothing serious. Then hit up every single female from 18-55. You will find at least one chick in that effort who will be down to fuck you and likely one who will even be ok with you hitting it raw and cumming inside of her.

Yes I have but I also love a casual no strings attached flat out lust based fuck. Also I'm into BDSM so I am used to having several subs.

Yes. I don't know what to do with this information though.

are you traditionally attractive? if we're being real, that's usually the difference between creepy and charming, unfortunately.

Well...and I'm just going out on a limb here....you could try asking her out. Look, maybe she says no. If she does, don't sweat it. Take it from me, rejection is nothing. I know it well. It won't kill you. Expect the worst, hope for the best. If you never try, you'll never succeed.

As in just straight up ask them for sex right off the bat? Do people actually respond positively to that sort of thing?

Dude.... Chilll, we are on the same goddamn team Get Op Laid here. If you're not a troll then I am sorry for labeling you as such.

Yes OP could get laid using asshole tactics such as those that you employee. But my goal is to get him to have actual meaningful sex with a woman that isn't a thot or a "side piece" Deep down you know that such encounters are just a way to polish your ego staff to a point where you can ignore the crushing existential dread, and say " I have 10 kids" that you don't take care of and steal their benefits while you claim them on your tax forms. You are literally the worst kind of person and if i knew who you were or where you lived I would come and beat you to death with your own severed penis. Faggot.

Sorry if that got a little off track OP.....

No.

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No. I'm average on a good day. Which is exactly the problem. I can do precisely what Chad does to sweep her off her feet, and when I do it it's creepy and borderline rapey.
Problem is, I see this group pretty regularly. If she says no, it will be permanently awkward both for the two of us, and for the rest of the group.

jesus, dude. have you been diagnosed? just be nice to them and feel out the situation. i have a feeling you're jittery around girls, which makes them uneasy. you're forgetting how dangerous it can be for woman to be around men. oftentimes they're just scared when you think they're being rude.

DUDE!!!!!!!!!!!!

AVERAGE IS FUCKING GOOD.

IT MEANS YOU BEAT 50% OF THE COMPETITION!

Fuck you SJW

>guaranteed buttsecks with Tyrone.
just as planned

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It actually works for me. If sex is your objective be honest about it. Women want dick. It's is known senpai.

yeah, that's a bummer. life is flawed. don't believe television or movies.

75% of the population is average, 5% are stunning and 20% are dog ugly.

Stop thinking of girls as a goal or something to be gained, get rid of the high horse you put them on, you will get any puh you want by treating girls like people. They suddenly want to fuck you

lol i'm not. i'm talking about navigating SJW culture to get what you want.

that's not how math works but maybe we're discussing a paradox.

Making a lot of assumptions there microdick. Firstly I have no children. I've fucked 144 women and no kids. And yes I've cum in most of them. Newsflash: A lot of adult women are on birth control or have had their tubes tied. And you are on some moral high horse when you have no idea what in the blue fuck you are talking about. This sadsack fuck OP is asking about sex not some philosophical viewpoints on relationships and love. So fuck off with your pedestrian moralfaggotry and let me tell this guy how to actually get his dick wet for a change.

Not diagnosed, but I'm sure I'm somewhere on the beautiful spectrum.
I get jittery if I try to make something happen. Which is why usually I don't try to make anything happen. Then I can just be calm and have a good time. But if I just be nice to them and do nothing else, then I continue down the same path I've been following for 33 years.
Maybe so, but 80% of the women fuck the top 20% of the men, so being in the top 50% isn't very helpful.
Sex is one of my objectives. I also want a relationship. Perhaps even more than sex.

so what you mean is, get the pussy off the pedestal?

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Some do yes. It's worth it to be honest and straight up. Not a whole lot of women are that upfront but sometimes you do catch one at the right time and she will be down to fuck. I've fucked 144 women.... Just saying.

i meant diagnosed with aspergers. not intended to be mean.

Trust me bro. You need to get some sex under your belt before you go for the relationship. You don't want to disappoint your waifu princess manic pixie dream girl when you finally find her right? Because of you virgin out and nut in three seconds followed by shitting spaghetti all over her she is gonna dump you and never speak to you again.

I treat everyone like people. I barely even see gender when it comes to talking to people on a day to day basis. I just behave the same towards everyone. That's probably why women want to fuck me exactly as much as men want to fuck me (zero).

Stop. Being. Autistic.

how violently do you project your fedora downward

Right. That's why I'm asking specifically about sex here, even if the ultimate goal is a relationship which includes sex. I know I'll probably make a fool of myself the first time, so I don't want to ruin a potential relationship over that.
Gee, thanks for the advice. I'll get right on that.

I don't even own a fedora. I can't remember the last time I've worn a hat of any sort.

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it's a state of mind and if you can't remember playing little league then you're a true neckbeard.

It’s great. Especially if you’re both into it. Just ask someone and eventually you’ll get a yes.

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I know, so I'm just weighing the odds. If I ask one of them out on a date, there's maybe a 5% chance they say yes. To a date. Then there's maybe another 5% chance that the date then leads to a sexual relationship. If any of those fail, I've just completely ruined the existing relationship for nothing (a 99.75% chance of failure).

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If your focus is more on getting experience with sex before tackling a relationship, you should try to go for older, average looking single moms. Or young slags in bars who will do anyone if you buy them drinks.

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Okay, do what you're doing, but to single women at a bar. If you don't look like a total cave troll, someone will bite eventually. If they don't, find women with lower standards until they do.

Yes. Shit is SO cash.

Where do you find older single moms? Aren't they busy taking care of their kids?
It's been a while since I've been out to bars, but seems like they're usually pretty loud and crowded. How do you get someone's attention in an atmosphere like that, especially considering that the place is crawling with attractive men in their early 20s?

>Become a fag
>Sucess

Online dating doesn't work if you have a fucked up face, sure. I'm samefagging here, but get dressed well, shave, get a haircut, and go to a bar. Buy a couple drinks for yourself and a lady that looks in your league, and strike up conversation.

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Sigma Male here:

Condoms suck
Cum inside everytime

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Do women at bars respond well to men who are there alone? I don't really have anyone to go to bars with anymore. The friends I used to go to bars with are married now, and don't do that sort of thing anymore.
But so lets say I'm there with someone, we talk for a bit and things seem to be going reasonably well. What's the next step? Ask for her number? Go in for a kiss? Ask her back to my place? I have no clue.
Oh man I wish it were that easy. I know a few gay men who I'm certain would go for a one night stand if I expressed interest. Unfortunately I've been cursed with a strong case of heterosexuality.

They're on shitty dating sites like eHarmony or OkCupid. Just take some good photos for a profile pic, if you have money get a real photographer to do it, if not just have a friend help you out. Filter the search for women with children who want to date casually. You should get responses pretty quickly.

So you think a professional portrait is the way to go? Something like this?

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Lmao, no quite not like that. If you go to a photographer or friend, they'll know what to do if you say you want pictures for a dating profile. Beyond that, have people take pictures of you when you're hiking or skiing or whatever. Women eat that shit up if you look like you're an active, fun guy.

Don't forget MeetMe, PoF, and FetLife. Especially FetLife.

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set your tinder to 40+. or find out your local swingers/cougar bars. or search fet life.

Problem is when I'm hiking or skiing I'm usually a bit sweaty and my hair is messed up. Dunno, maybe some women might like it anyway, but attractive people seem to be able to do outdoor activities and still look like they just got out of the makeup room.

join any religion or outside organization
you'll met someone there

Fucked a couple highschool gfs but got into the fetish community in college. Went to orgies pretty regular up until last year. Fucked girls and guys. It's fun but at this point has lost all of its excitement. I've done pretty much everything and now aside from the occasional quicky with my boy friend or his female friend who comes over regularly I'd rather just masturbate.

Quick, save yourself before its too late. Don't believe the lies. Wizardry doesn't live up to the hype.

Those photos are usually staged, which is what I'm talking about here. They just pose before they actually do any physical exertion to look cool. Bring a friend along to take your picture as you just set out on a hike, or on a ski lift or whatever. Just make sure it's clear what you're doing and chicks will love it.

You don't need to "try to make a move" until its blatantly obvious. She will get close to you, put her hand on your leg, give you a hug, or put her head on your shoulder. Don't try anything before something like this happens.

All you need to do is be around women more, talk to them normally, have a sense of humor, and ask them questions. They love being asked questions about themselves, or even random shit like whats your favorite food blah blah. Dont actively try to "have game" because girls pick up on that shit and if you arent a nigger or a model chad who they expect to act like that it will work against you.

I'm not religious, so that probably wouldn't work out well. What other sorts of organizations would you recommend?
Curious, what's the orgy etiquette like? Do you all just strip and get in a pile, or do you pick your favorites and fuck them first, or what?
Well I guess that feels a bit better if those pics are always staged. Otherwise I'd feel like a fraud taking a pic like that.

We almost always had noobies so the beginning of the night had a lot of asking if someone or a group of someones wanted to fuck then gradually dissolves into essentially a breeding pit where everyone fucked everyone. My favorite thing to do was take molly and turn into a cock demon. It kills your boner unless someone brings cialis but Bottoming is way more fun so I didnt mind.

>don't try anything before something like this happens
Whelp, guess I should never try then. Nothing like this has ever come close to happening to me. Do women really make those sorts of advances? It just seems hard to believe, never having experienced anything like it.

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>Im 33
travel and go to a brothel, or get an escort. something, obviously whatever you're doing isn't working

Do you think either of these would help in my quest to get "real" sex? Brothels and escorts are both completely fake.
Ok, tell me, how are things, really?

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Have you tried tinder? You should do fine there if you’re not hideously ugly

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Join a fetish community.

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I'm not terrible. Do you think people on tinder will respond well to a 33 year old virgin?
My fetish is to have consensual sex in the missionary position, possibly followed by some other position. I'm not sure how well that aligns with the expectations of fetish communities.

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You dont have to be into it. Plenty of guys go just to get laid. The difference is people join with the expectation of sex so you skip all that normie bullshit of trying to puzzle your way into someones pants. Tie some.people up use a flogger get laid. It's not for you it's just a means to an end. More then likely you will get into it just by being a part of it

Not to mention virgins are prime real estate in the fetish community. Male or female.

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I have no idea what has been said here. Humans are a bell curve, infinite preferences and permutations of those preferences. Some people like this thing some don't, apply that to every aspect of life. Do not change your core characteristics and beliefs for sex, never. I did and slightly hate myself for it.

Whatever, it's honestly not worth it. I wish I would have stayed a kissless virgin and learned about hands free orgasm and prostate shit. They're basically as good as sex on their own without the extra drama. I've been married (both of us are /fit/), she took my v card, for 2 years, I honestly do love her. I'm gonna sound horrible but seriously I could do without her. The sex is good feels good, she cums I cum inside, cool n shit but now that I know what I learned it ain't worth all the extra bullshit.

Nah man give me life back. I secretly want her to cheat on me so I can be done with this. I thought I needed somebody but I really don't, it isn't for everybody.

I'm pretty drunk, ignore me.

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Alright, gonna share some valuable information with you.
You gotta make them "feel" something. The best way inside someones pants is their heart.
Take them on a mental journey, make them picture beautiful scenery in their own minds, let them feel something.
Once you've done that, try to get a bit physical. Soft touches to their hands, as if it were by accident.
Escalate from that point on.
Also, most important: Don't fucking seem desperate. Whatever you do, just pretend like you don't think the world will end if they deny you.
If you do that, one in 10-100 will be a hit.

Super late reply but it was something along the lines of "Would you really ditch me for you friends?!" or "Go ahead and hang out with your buddies, but don't expect any sexy time tonight". Shit was fucked. And no, fat chicks aren't that in to me anymore, probably because I was super skinny back then and now I got a beer belly. Plus god damn, they ALWAYS fucking want the most expensive thing on the menu at a restaurant. I hated that.

Most of her customers are old and/or ugly. At 33, you'd be pretty young for her, so if you're not super ugly, there are chances that she might have fun.

I'm 38 and had sex with about 30 prostitutes and most of them seemed to have a good time. A few of them even came, but that's quite unusual. They'll all fake but they don't make a great effort in being convincing.

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i've been drinking so i don't feel like reading the whole thread to check, so someone's probably already said this but, it's overrated, the promise of sex is just a trap to make you spend money on women that aren't worth it, just focus on your man to hand relationship, it's honestly better anyway in a few ways, edging with good porn always beats trying to satisfy someone else.

It's like having your dick submerged in a bit warmer than lukewarm soup, but the soup has the pressure as though you were 30-50 meters below the soupsurface, swimming feels good and make syou cum but if you cum you drown so you sweat and make groan soup make moan you drown in soup eventually

> But apparently finding a relationship is much harder than just finding sex

This isn't true at all. Just try online dating, work on your game, don't bring up sex and romance immediately, try to be friends with them first. Go slow and develop a relationship. Sex will happen eventually. Be open, honest, and reckognize that you're going to embaress yourself a few times before you figure out how to talk to people, and thats okay. Just be willing to apologize when you need to and don't harras anyone

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Its like fucking your hand but its a lot wetter, your hand will be tighter, tits bouncing, ass slamming, sexy look. Dont fuck a big fat chick. Nut it a sluts mouth.

Have had sex a bunch.
It landed me a kid.
Sex is pretty cool.
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why the fuck would you fuck a fucking married chick

I want to in that poos hole

Married pussy is the best. It's fucking cheap af if you do it right. No dinner, no movies, no flowers, just fucking. I used to bang down a married chick on the regular (her husband was military, so always gone). It only ever cost me the gas to get to her house. She'd even cook for me sometimes. Free sex and a home cooked meal for a single guy in his early 20's is pretty much the best thing ever.

I fucked all three of my wife's holes for 4 hours yesterday. Did the same a week prior.

you might get some pussy if you would go outside every once in a while OP

This guy gets it.

have children

Stop lurking, stop watching porn everyday, exercise and maybe go outside and enjoy some night life

Whered you find the photo of this lady op

op i think you either are on the spectrum (autism or aspergers or some shit) or you have an anxiety disorder. go to a therapist. honestly most of this advice is pretty good (be fit, have hobbies, try to be a good person, etc) but you said some stuff about getting fidgety and awkward when you think it's time to make a move. i've got the exact same problem. blew it with countless hotties because i clammed up when it was time to make a move. every now and again i would be caught off guard and didn't have time to get nervous and would get laid or get a gf.
seriously look into anxiety disorders, behavioral cognitive therapy, and look into seeing a professional.
hope this helps op get laid. and become able to form healthy relationships.