We need open borders for labor

since I'm such an idiot, wanna explain?

Actions speak louder than words. A very recent example was the dem debates, where all candidates said they would be in favor of giving free healthcare to illegal aliens.
Free healthcare for illegals, and our juicy welfare system, give these people a very big incentive to come here illegally.

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Are you talking about Cali? Because that's the only news I'm seeing on that front. Nothing about national dem debates, which you seem to imply.

And yeah, even with some of the proposed restrictions like only under 26, I don't get that either. We don't do that in Canada either. You don't have your medical card? You pay like any tourist.

youtube.com/watch?v=O-QP5TBTVhY
The 2019 democratic debates. Why are you posting about this stuff if you are so uninformed?

You mean why was I asking for information instead of stating absolute facts?

Thanks for the link, interesting. Not something that would surprise me in Cali but on a national level I did not expect that (assuming it is accurately represented).

Fuck off paddy

>assuming it is accurately represented
it's an unedited clip starting with the question being asked by the moderator.
>Not something that would surprise me in Cali but on a national level I did not expect that
That's why the caption on the pic of my first post says what it says.

Ah yes I should have just 100% believed what you wrote without any questions or anything. Of course. Speaking of, I'm the King of Australia. I have AUS$100M to give you.

Geesus fuck dude, I interact reasonably with you and you just go full dickhead. WTF is wrong with you?

All I did was respond to what you said. Try reading it without projecting malice.

You mean like how Obama deported more people than any president in recent history because he was trying to establish that Dems were upholding the laws, but wanted reforms to those laws? The economics are clear: with the lull in US birth rates, our GDP will suffer unless we increase the number of immigrants we accept.

Trump/GOP supporters have a distorted view of reality. Turn off you AM radio and read a fucking newspaper.

The GDP is irrelevant. Less people would mean less scarcity of resources, more available jobs, cheaper housing / property, better / less expensive education, etc.
The population crisis is only a crisis in that the government will make less money.

>more available jobs,
>better / less expensive education
Now I ain't no edumuhcated economist or anything but those 2 items don't make any sense. Less people also means less demand, so the increase if job availability ought to be roughly a net zero change. As to education, economies of scale suggest it would get worse, especially in the rural areas that are likely to lose the greater % of population.

So I'm guessing that's a no?

that bun seems too glossy
is this mcdonalds?

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Less people would lead to less demand, but it would be offset by the shrunken labor pool. We could possibly even get back to a single laborer household, where a mother or father could stay home and instill a moral compass in their children.
Schools are overcrowded, less people less kids in the schools. Also, as you pointed out, demand for teachers would drop and only the best ones would get hired. So more attention to each individual child, from a better teacher.

I think they are more concerned with refugees than whether or not the borders are open.

With that said, Open borders are essential for a free market and neither political party really wants that.

Don't bother. Republicans can't handle being confronted with logic. Or, for that matter, being confronted at all.
Source: numerous investigations on Trump.

I don’t know if you remember but in the 2016 second presidential debate Hillary said she didn’t believe open borders but the man presiding over the debate brought up an e-mail that was leaked that she had to some Brazilian politician or something about open borders, and a lot of dems support abolishing or defunding ICE (example AOC)

>open borders for trade
yes
>open borders for people to flood into your country and diminish the value of your labor.
no

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Fuck off. Any job that is to be done should pay a living wage, and if it doesn't then just let technology take over, replace all your fucking construction jobs too, and get a UBI.

Money in the hands of people IS WHAT MAKES THE ECONOMY WORK!

If people don't have money to spend; businesses go out of business and no new businesses can form or thrive. Think about it, donkey.

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Those come from machines.

Post results of the investigations.

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>i deserve $15 an hour
expecting top tier work for shit tier pay. you ain't too smart, is you.

>My pay leaves me in poverty and doesn't allow me to save or go to school.
>I Am motivated to do a good job.

Pick only one, it's pretty straight forward.

Retard. I'm stating that repubs were sperging out BECAUSE of the confrontation. L2Read

How would you define sperging out?
> Crying about Russian collusion
> Trump is racist
> Trump is a facist
> Trump is a misogynist
or
> people getting upset about the obviously false accusations directed at our country's President. .

false accusations? you're trying too hard now.

spics just want it all, and the democrats are dumb enough to give it to them

>people getting upset
>getting upset
>upset
>over politics
Case closed. Feefees demolished.

Its possible to create high demand (and thus raised wages) for unskilled workers. The ones who dont want that are companies, because it leads to worker deficiencies and difficulty recruiting... which lowers federal income. So politicians dont want that either.

a fish filet? are you fuckin srs. that shit is beyond gross. you should be deported where the other mermaids live and eat fish. you nigger

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This is why America is going down the shitter. Fucking incels barely able to hold a simple mindless job.

>I deserve $150 an hour.

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They found no collusion. So yes, false. When I say Obviously false it's because it's the same excuse the dems used when their emails were LEAKED. An insider from the dems leaked the emails, they were not hacked. Forensic investigators showed via the metadata from the files showed they were copied locally, and it couldn't have been done at that speed remotely.
They lied about Russians hacking them, they lied about Russian collusion from the President.

If you have ever tried to hire entry level service workers you would know that they are hard to find so paying more or opening up a new stream of labor makes sense

>pic
Cringed honestly. Weak reddit tier joke tbh.

Not politics per se, the president is the face of the country, and these people are smearing shit on that face.

Agreed, ban sex work outright, including porn of every kind.
>including porn
only talking about the production and distribution. Access to porn should still be legal.

no, you don't
you missed the point you were trying to make, and that pisses me off because it's immoral

Not finding "collusion" is not proof there was no "collusion".

Though collusion isnt a crime, so the investigation never looked for that specifically. They did try to figure out if Trump et all asked, and offered payment, for Russia to interfere in the election.

Muellers team didnt find evidence for that either. What they did find evidence for was that:

*Russia did hack the Dems and got their secret documents, and

*Trumps team knew the hacked documents would be released in advance,

*Trump publically asked Russia for help releasing the hacked documents, and

*Russia released those files, to help Trump win the election.

Hmmm, people born in murica are muricans, we can't deny muricans they freedom

So?

>proof there was no "collusion"
you can't prove a negative.
>Russia did hack the Dems and got their secret documents
all their "proof" is redacted so I can't verify it's legitimacy, just have to take their word.
documentcloud.org/documents/5955379-Redacted-Mueller-Report.html#document/
>Trump publically asked Russia for help releasing the hacked documents
Asking anyone, including foreigners to come forward with evidence of a crime isn't as bad as they make it sound.

If you make a face of pure shit other countries are only going to recognize your citizens as at least partly sane if they point the face's shittiness out.

Just pointing out that it wasn't necessarily politics based. Other than that I suppose they take offense to that, which ultimately doesn't matter.

biden says that a few days ago
youtube.com/watch?v=lmKUF0DihxU

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>you can't prove a negative.
Correct but it still means claiming the lack of evidence proves that the accusations were false is incorrect.

>all their "proof" is redacted so I can't verify it's legitimacy, just have to take their word.
documentcloud.org/documents/5955379-Redacted-Mueller-Report.html#document/
Fair point, but given that the attorney general and president are from the same party that information would have been much more likely to be released if it had vindicated Trump. Heck, Im sure the attorney general wouldve mentioned a major win for Trump like that. He did what he could to emphasize the parts of the report that were goid for Trump.

>Asking anyone, including foreigners to come forward with evidence of a crime isn't as bad as they make it sound.
Indeed not and on its own I might even have supported the move. The reason it matters is that conspiracy with a foreign power requires many things to be true, and requesting a foreign power to do something that benefits you is one of several such steps. Thats why I listed the four steps I think were shown to happen. No proof of a formal request for help was proven though, nor was any payment shown to have been offered, nor shown to have been paid.

And what makes him so "shit" exactly? Broadly he seems to be doing great work except in the socialist utopia known as the E.U. And mostly they are just mad that the US isn't going to be their free world police force anymore.
President Trump has, despite their best efforts, kept us out of more middle eastern conflicts and is getting results in the Bush-Obama wars we are still engaged in.
The economy is doing well.
He hasn't gone insane, like the slanderers said he would.
The list goes on and on, but the opinion merchants paint him as the worst thing since Hitler.

This post is very reasonable, I wish we had more discourse like this.