New land discoveries, possible other lifeforms that have better advancements in technology.
If the earth is a sphere, theres nowhere else to bother exploring. It also creates a one-world religion of scientific explanation.
Considering the earth is flat, it raises a lot of uncomfortable questions, not just about lies but the reality of what we exist on.
What if instead of planets, there were just islands to be discovered? There would be new plants, new fungi, new minerals, new food, new creatures, NEW EVERYTHING!!!
Everyone always dismisses it out of hand and acts like its ridiculous, but just take a moment, humor me, and seriously consider the idea. It isn't as far fetched as you think.
>isn’t as far fetched as you think Sure it is, and then some.
Nolan Johnson
I'm not a scientist but I trust the millions of scientists who already agreed on what the earth looks like. So shut the fuck up with your nonsense fantasies.
Aiden Jones
Why? I think if you try to articulate why you think so, you'll find that you don't really know, and you're just repeating what you've been told and "know".
Nathan Price
And that's different from you how?
Kayden Sanders
How many scientists study the topic of the Earth's shape? Very few, most in the employee of the arms of power like NASA or large corporations that mingle with governments. A brain surgeon or geologist isn't an expert on anything but their field, their "agreement" is mostly just peer pressure and social programming, same as yours.
Actually think about it, don't just wave it away. What proof is there for a curvature that NOBODY can see? Why are you not supposed to trust what your own eyes can easily tell you, not to mention math?
Brayden Cox
Instead of just accepting "conventional wisdom" without question, I actually sought out proof, and found nothing but hostility and hollow answers. I found the flat or disc earth arguments more rational and convincing than certain bad actors would have you believe they are, and I made up my own mind.
That's a world of difference. Give it a try sometime.
Jackson Robinson
Meteorites, gps, weather, summer/winter solstice and photographs from orbit
Elijah Parker
Lots of people can and have seen the curvature, they’re called astronauts, cosmonauts and people who aren’t blind.
Levi Jackson
>How many For starters (but not exclusively) every single astronomer that has lived in the last couple dozen centuries. Most of which have no affiliation with NASA, organization which flerfers seem to have some kind of fixation with, even though in no way do they have the monopoly on scientific knowledge about Earth.
David Richardson
Whatever helps you sleep at night, moron.
Cameron Cooper
Now try adding a wall around that infinite plane X miles away, you could see the wall even from the other wall
Jordan Jones
>Meteorites The existence of a meteor has nothing to say about the shape or anything, this is absurd
>GPS Owned by who? Run by who?
>Weather, summer/winter solstice Also senseless. It can rain on a disc, what does that have to do with the shape of the Earth?
>photographs from orbit Have you ever been in orbit? Do you know anyone who has? Or is it all from a select group? And who do they work for?
The supposed "proof" is nonsense. How come nothing at great distance ever appears to be leaning away from us? It's on a curve....right?
Julian Bell
>The Emperor's New Clothes syndrome Ah, how typical.
Christian Adams
That isn't an argument, and isn't proof. You accept a rounded Earth without proof or reason, even when it flies in the face of every verifiable fact about the environment that we have.
Hurricanes can’t exist on a plane. The swirling pressure zones caused by earths rotation generate hurricanes, but on the flat earth model all hurricanes would have to originate from the North Pole
Kevin Baker
Try educating yourself, and thinking critically, instead of hurling insults at people who were smart enough to try that already.
>How many scientists study the topic of the Earth's shape? All of the ones in the field of geomorphology, and then some.
>What proof is there for a curvature that NOBODY can see? Aside from all of the aforementioned proof, including the parallax method (shadow angle at widely separated locations), you could consider something like The Bedford Level Experiment. It's something that is low cost enough and simple enough that practically anyone could do it with the help of a few other people.
Benjamin Butler
Ever been to the beach? The line of horizon should be at eye level when you're sitting at the level of the sea, yet it's always below.
Ian Torres
>owned by who run by who Irrelevant, what they do and where they are is enough to debunk flat theory, solstice has nothing to do with weather AND yes I do know someone who has been to orbit.
Austin Garcia
That is not how that works, the equator receives more sunlight for longer, in the winter the north receives no sun thus cooling extremely then slowly thawing in the summer thus still staying cold, and Vica Versa for the south pole
Jace Gomez
Hurricanes can exist on a plane, and in fact - they do. Why wouldn't they? This is crazy.
Samuel Flores
Guess in the flat tard model the sun is like a bird and goes south for the winter.
I just explained why not. The hurricanes are generated by opposite flow pressure zones generated by earths rotation. Explain how a hurricane could generate on a plane
Julian Gonzalez
It's not an argument, but it's an explanation for why idiots like you (assuming you're not just baiting) exist. "If you don't buy into my wackjob conspiracy then you're deluded and incapable of thinking by yourself", all the whole everyone with a modicum of common sense will see the Emperor is prancing around completely naked.
Jose Richardson
Tons of kek. How about you just use the fucking phone in your hand to google what companies own and manage gps satelites. Frankly, if you people want to devolve, who am i to stop you. It just makes getting jobs and being successful easier for the rest of us.
Ian Harris
If earth is flat, like portrayed in OPs map, then how is there a south pole? How are there even magnetic poles to begin with?
Or is every voyage anyone has ever taken to antarctica been a hoax?
Parker Richardson
Dude... just, don't take the bait. Those trolls love to soak up as much of your time as possible with that stupid notion that the earth is a fucking frisbee, even when the rest of the objects are spheroids. Just sage his ass
I enjoy doing this It’s fun to watch trolls logic their way out
Landon Bell
Simple. Call a person on the other side of the world, or watch a random live broadcast from any asian country., and ask where the sun is. If you are on a plane with then, the sun should be in the same place, more or less. How can it be night here and day there?
Dylan Sanchez
Lol was just looking at the clearly round moon the other night and wondered how the fuck it took ppl so long to realize the earth is round. Top kek. Thx OP.
Jeremiah Wright
Yes and a ocean current curving for no reason makes more sense
Liam Kelly
So you're telling me than even the last Chinese sweatshop that makes mobile phone components, and even the last guy who's ever written code, even open source code for a GPS application are also in? Or that there's entire corporations of people working to make and maintain a system that's indistinguishable from a real GPS system, yet no one of them has dropped any clues that their in? Because the second sounds just a little bit less ridiculous than the later.
Jason Powell
yep - no sign of rounding in sight, looks clearly flat
No shit you can’t see curvature there’s not enough on that scale
Hunter Reed
No, that would be stupid.
The people that make mobile phone components don't develop GPS, they simply build a spec - received from government, btw - to receive certain signals. The software devs write code to show those signals on a screen.
At no point does either party have any real way to verify that the signals are coming from a constellation of chunks of metal, just randomly hovering around a big ball.
You don't need a "vast conspiracy" to lie about the nature of a signal.
Jack Gonzalez
How come eclipses happen in a flat Earth, and how come they don't happen every month on the same place?
Isaac Mitchell
I..I was talking to OP dude.
Matthew Morris
Differences in temperature don't require an Earth ball.
Seasons, climate, the mechanics of ocean currents, storms, whatever you want to try - it literally ALL makes sense when plugged into a flat earth, but is incomprehensibly broken in a rounded earth.
>randomly hovering in space Kek OP doesn’t believe in gravity cause he doesn’t know what gravity is. Let me guess you also believe blackholes suck you like a vacuum cleaner
Christian Reyes
Cool. Please explain all of that in facts and we'll all make popcorn in the meantime. Go.
Carter Moore
Ever wonder why they push time zones, even when they don't make sense, it's all just revolving around the earth ball, right?
Everything "clicks" in a flat earth model, in ways you wouldn't even think of.
Bitch I have done all the calculations myself. It makes much more sense then a flat model, in fact the flat model would not have the rotating pressure zones as you persist they have, they just blow outwards
Matthew Sanchez
>Oh boy he actually thinks the seasons are explained because of the eccentricity of Earth's orbit
Aside from the fact that flat earth is just a troll, the fact the position of all continents is roughly known doesn't mean there isn't more to explore; While people have mapped the coastlines and such, there are still many species of animals, plants, and such that haven't been identified because you can't see stuff that small from space satellites, and explorers who did venture to those places only saw a fraction of a percent of all visual information preset on that continent. Seriously, think about how many illegal operations continue to exist because simply knowing the coastlines of the world isn't enough to recognize and eliminate objects on a human scale, let alone anything that's under tree-cover or underground.
Xavier Ramirez
If there was a wall why wouldn't we just climb up it? Also what is supposedly on the rest of the plane?
>lightbulb Turn on a lightbulb and light up the wall a little, now back away. YOU CAN STILL SEE ITS LIGHT??? WHAT BUT ITS LOCALIZED.
David Price
>clicks I love these buzzwords, keep em comin.
Logan Martinez
Move a flashlight around a tennis ball.. Then go outside, yes, outside...logout of WoW, walk upstairs from the basement, tell your caretaker you'll be back in 5.. And actually look at the moon, and then come tell this bitch is flat after that.
>Have you ever been in orbit? Well, techically you are in orbit every time you leave the ground, it's just usually an extremely unstable orbit that decays instantly. >Do you know anyone who has? Yes actually, my uncle worked on the Canberra reconnaissance craft for a few years, and got to ride in it once. Even have a patch from it somewhere. >Or is it all from a select group? No. >And who do they work for? So many different groups that covering them all would be functionally impossible.
Julian Garcia
BTW, to those who think "but scientists!" is an argument, and apparently can't trust their own eyes, why not listen to pilots? They're high enough to see the curvature...and yet, they never can. Why is that?
That's hard to answer if you're programmed to ignore the obvious. Social programming is so overwhelming that it can make a person doubt his own senses.
Only a necessary simplification to remove data that would be negligible anyways. Same way in which you can simplify light as traveling at an infinite speed, or ignore relativistic effects when working on a very small scale.
Also, flat-earthers, please incorporate NASA's livestream of the earth that matches with all local weather into your conspiracy theories, I'd love to see how faking something like this is reasonable.
Carter Ross
physics. a flat disc this vast could not sustain disc form. all large masses aka planets are sphere like. retard
Nathaniel Jenkins
These sorts of handwaves are disheartening if I'm being honest. People always clamor for "proof", "source", and so on when you start talking flat earth. NASA itself admits that the earth is NOT a ridiculous floating space ball...but then the skeptics come back "oh no, I didn't mean THAT proof".
It isn't enough to just show the facts, or ask people to trust their own eyes, literal YEARS of programming and brainwashing has to be overcome. It makes me scared about what I "know", the way you just "know" the earth is round, and what kind of falsehoods I've been convinced of and hold onto as doggedly as you hold to this.
Public education is the greatest evil in the modern world.
Aiden Collins
>all large masses aka planets are sphere like says who?
"this source is true, because it says it's true!"
There is literally no reason to believe that all large masses must form into spheres, rather than flattening under their own gravity
Julian Jackson
Ehh flattards at it again. Try harder it will work next time for sure. Pic related is flattards.
God dammit. This is called epistemic contextualism and the reason we don’t use it is because we couldn’t treat anyone because there’s a TINY chance that they have this disease, so we shouldn’t treat them. In skepticalism nothing is a hard proof making any tiny chance a 100%
Christopher Bennett
Allow me to demonstrate, the earth is a donut. Prove me wrong
Grayson Cruz
Do you need to account for the shape of Earth when fixing your car, or choosing a pair of shoes? No. Then the same can be done in some aeronautic research document ina situation where the effect of Earth's shape would be negligible for the model being worked with. Yet your bring that cherrypicked page as evidence just because it happens to use the words "on a flat Earth" when referring to such simplification. Probably something the guy that found this ran into after searching for the term "Flat Earth" on every publicly available NASA document he could put his hands on.
Thomas Clark
(((((YOU)))) absolute fucking retard. Have you ever seen photos Hubble telescope took? You absolute waste of space.
Henry Gomez
I want my question answered about the wall. It's the only thing I don't know about this version of flat earth and I'm actually curious.
I wouldn't mention the shape of the Earth when picking a shoe, because it isn't relevant.
They specifically mentioned the disc shape of the Earth, because it was relevant, and planes will fall out of the sky if designed on the premise of a lie.
Kayden Parker
I think it's highly likely that we've sent expeditions over, or tried, and this is CLEARLY the real purpose of Amundsen-Scott.
But without clear information on what things are like, it's difficult to say more. The environment is almost certainly brutal and inhospitable, maybe impossible traverse with current limitations.
But that's all baseless speculation, the real answer is we just don't know what's up and beyond the wall, if anything.
I'm fairly certain it's just "troll science" reborn. Making people explain shit like earth is equidistant from the sun at every point in it's orbit and why that is, and why seasons are, etc.
The airplane was never going to take off without lift. This happens all the time in biology whenever we lazily use the phrase "designed to" in reference to anything when we mean evolved to, nothing was designed for anything without a designer to design it. A banana wasn't "designed" to fit in the human hand, the human hand evolved to grasp bananas because butterfingers who drop their bananas don't eat good and thus get swole and thus get the pussy.
also don't rely on any others' work, knowledge, or technology
Jackson Russell
> not an argument
Daniel Hall
How in the world does your version of gravity result in discs instead of spheres? The reason why masses result in spheres is because every spot on the surface is equidistant to the center, thus the shape is balanced. If there is no reason to believe all masses must form into spheres, then why in the world should we believe they form discs?
Chase Young
That’s been proven countless times Besides, unironically, what would they get out of “hiding” that the earth is “flat”? I can get behind alot of conspiracy theories that haven’t been “proven” yet because of all the information provided and dots connected But this? Not only everything about it contradicts logic, truth and science but it has nothing of value Like why the fuck would the officials hide from us that the earth is “flat” even tho it’s been theorized for centuries The common me that people back then believed the earth was flat was complete bullshit and the Mesopotamians(Sumerians) already knew that Greeks also already knew that Copernicus proved it to us
I won’t go on but what is it about it that make flat earthers’ dicks tingle about it?
Colton Hall
But the night king melted the wall?
Angel Edwards
I won’t all my work
Levi Peterson
Gravity pulls things down, making it senseless for matter to "ball up", and far more likely to flatten. Pour some water on your desk, do you get a water ball, or a puddle?
Again, don't think about what you "know", trust your senses, use critical thinking.
Adrian Taylor
>down good thread I'm out
Michael Bailey
So much keks Def not a real flat earther Would have said gravity doesn’t exist
Easton Myers
What would you say the height of the wall is? Also, being ice, does it calve? At the height on that map, which looks to be on the order of tens if not hundreds of kilometers, a single calving event would produce a worldwide tsunami.
There's no way (for me, not the powers that be) to know what it's composed of, but I've heard some convincing theories that such events are responsible for the death of the dinosaurs, or Noah's flood.
I tend to believe a lot of the hysteria about "global warming" is really about this, though. If one day there's a lot more water than there used to be, they can just say "oh gee, ice caps melted" and people will just believe it.
Logan Sullivan
My mother is incapable of eating that quantity of dirt
No one is stupid enough to actually think the Earth is flat. This is larping. All the "flat earthers" are larpers.
Wyatt Lewis
Real flat earthers are not smart enough to access Yea Forums
Wyatt Sullivan
Still pisses me off to no end. Just because there are people who take flat earth seriously and it's seriously poisonous in the era of internet shit like this just won't die.
Ian Martinez
I know where you're going - just consider that what you're seeing, and what you understand as a "planet", might not be correct.
If someone had never seen a bird before, and he saw one, and you convinced him it was a dog, and then I came along trying to convince him that dog's couldn't fly, he'd think I was a moron.
You can't prove much with "knowledge" when the fountain is corrupt.
Camden Nguyen
You're a moron. You're not even fucking trying. Many different industries need precision geodesy (look it up dipshit). There's a dedicated international organization for keeping track of the Earth's position, rotation, etc. See: iers.org
Ian Taylor
aww, i kinda like this idea that it's all infinitely explorable... that aside, if "Earth" is just a little melted puddle, why is the "north pole", i.e. the middle of the puddle, still frozen?
Adam Nguyen
>Implying you can actually see galaxies and planets through space and time. Implying that anything outside of our atmosphere wouldn't look distorted by gasses and the reflection of hydrocarbons. Implying you can trust anything you actually see.
Have you ever seen the shadow of the haze rising up from the ground on a hot summer night. What causes a shadow that we can't see?
the north pole and south poles as we understand them don't really exist, they're just expressions for the border. You see it in the center of the image because someone just took the fanfic art from the earth ball and flattened it out, it isn't an accurate image.
Grayson Morgan
>>GPS >Owned by who? Run by who?
So the fact that it fucking works perfectly is just irrelevant, huh?
Also, the motion and position of every celestial body can predicted with high precision years in advance. Stop being so willfully ignorant and open your fucking eyes (and mind).
Ryder Phillips
I love how you get all.these semi-smart asses triggered. Good for you.
Gabriel Cooper
lol so is there an accurate image to take into account the "south pole ice wall border" and where the ice at the "north pole" would be?
Xavier Ross
The ignorance on display is staggering. You assume that because technology is a mysterious black box to you it must be the same for everyone else. Learn how things work. Stop thinking that knowledge is something that someone else tells you.
Jayden Edwards
Show some equations.
Ian Phillips
Funny how most of the Flat Earth thinking comes precisely from some of the most ignorant, backwater areas of the country with one of the worst public education systems in the world. Also funny how it's always the flerfers who go around showing their buzzword-filled images and videos badly cobbled together in MS Paint as if they had the same validity than a well researched, peer reviewer paper, the likes of which they are incapable to produce.
Christopher James
Thanks. I usually like to play a black and ask Yea Forums for reparations, but I figured I'd try something different tonight. I think it went pretty well, I had some great laughs.
I have to get some sleep now though.
Tyler Price
Someone picks a convenient coordinate system, therefore the Earth is flat. See ECEF you fucking moron: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ECEF
Mason Bell
I think it's an interesting mental exercise, even if most of it is likely just trolling, and if not won't change anyone's mind anyways. I've actually learned a few things about Earth that I didn't know before by trying and refuting flat earth arguments.
Look if you're too retarded to do even the simple experiments the ancient Greeks did to prove the Earth is round then I guess it's a good thing you spend all your time indoors.
Ryder Taylor
I work with pilots every day, probably almost a thousand a year. Pilots are fucking stupid, you don't need more than a slightly above average attention span to be a pilot.
Liam Howard
Honestly my biggest hang up on flat earth theory isn't even the ridiculousness of the earth being flat. My biggest hand up is that the world powers can barely handle simple cover-ups or even coordinate with each other period. How the fuck would they manage to hide something that massive? Somebody would have leaked something, spilled the beans, went on record, SOMETHING. There is literally NO real or even somewhat convincing evidence that the Earth is flat. While we have overwhelming evidence that it's round.
Jaxson Jones
You haven't posted anything which comes close to proof. It seems you don't know what the word means. You've literally exhibited everything you criticise in others. You are a sheep, believing the lie
Brody Richardson
Says the poor, incel basement dweller, critical of well paid people who have zero issues getting sex
lmao that's one of the most retarded pictures I've even seen. It's actually hilarious how fucking crazy some people are these days.
Alexander Gonzalez
This conspiracy is nothing more than a pyramid scheme. Many flat earth freaks have been tutored in these idiotic arguments. It's a business, nothing more. If any of them were attractive they'd just be cam girls/boys. However they have nothing, no good looks, no evidence and no skills, just belligerent ignorance and being too stupid to care
I totally agree, bro. Like check this out. If the Earth is round, why is the floor flat? Check and mate, niggers
Lincoln Jackson
>source?
Says the clown posting a LARP with no evidence or source cited. Sage and AIDS
Nathaniel Martin
What's the focal length of each camera?
Jack Brooks
There are enough ways to easily mathematicaly proof the earth is round.
Don't choose to ignore evidence to hold onto your ideas.
Jace Cox
the same
David Flores
Intresting ideqa for sure and i think its also a better model then the flat plane in a dome in the middle of space.
but
1. How does the sun move around this ice wall
2. What whould every scientist ever gain trying to hide this
3) Why are there no pics of this ice wall yet
Whould make for an intresting movie idea tho , ill give you that
Brayden Cox
>Bedford Level Experiment
The Bedford Level experiment is a series of observations carried out along a six-mile (9.7 km) length of the Old Bedford River on the Bedford Level of the Cambridgeshire Fens in the United Kingdom, during the 19th and early 20th centuries, to measure the curvature of the Earth. Samuel Birley Rowbotham, who conducted the first observations starting in 1838, claimed he had proven the Earth to be flat. However, in 1870, after adjusting Rowbotham's method to avoid the effects of atmospheric refraction, Alfred Russel Wallace found a curvature consistent with a spherical Earth.
Tyler Morgan
Its either atmosheric refraction or just that the curvature isnt supposed to happen there due to the camera being so high
Also FUCKING 53%er measuring ffs
Ethan Lee
You forgot that seasons and gravity wouldnt work on a flat earth.
Mason James
isn't the way our ancestors uncounted millennia ago figured out the earth was round, besides the tip of the moon and rest of what they saw was round? any ship that sails out of a harbor and keep heading away from shore starts to fade from the bottom up. this is only possible on a round object.
now i have a hook in my mouth, nice. btw green is really blue. the government is using flat earth to distract from this actual very real fact.
Evan Hall
Hey flat earth fag, where does magma/lava come from on your flat earth
Jaxson Collins
NO the government is covering up Agarthas donut earth model!
Gavin Flores
You do realize nasa isn't the only space program in the world right?
Jose Nelson
1. Dont know. But let's be honest neither do you. 2. They dont actively hide it. It's a self supporting lie 3. There are pictures of it but pictures are not proof
Cooper Bennett
Pictures aren't proof, but the Bedford level experiment is? You're contradicting yourself
Brayden Butler
See
Christopher Long
Ok.
You've done it.
I'm convinced.
Now what? The earth is flat. Do we win?do I get a raise? My mortgage is paid? Do I get a little 19 year old to bounce around my place and polish my nob whenever I want?
This would be really interesting idea in video game universum. So what do you have in mind, how is the universe structured or is it just plain, why do we see stars and can we travel up from the infinite plain?
Dominic Nguyen
Keep up the good fight mate, it's like breeders can't even imagine a flat plane of existance. I guess only us Queens can see Tokyo from Los Angeles because we know the world is flat.
Jacob Carter
You can see it in plane so no need to be astronaut
Jeremiah Wood
Well, you're gay now so you can act all entitled and vote Democrat so there's that
