Celeb thread for user’s who think we should turn off the internet to Canada

Sounds like you may be projecting. Are you sure you don't want to go to return to reddit and get back pats for "ORANGE MAN BAD"?
>report >hide thread Problem solved. Now tell me how to get quota hire SJWs to fuck off with the agendas in vidya.
These people don't differentiate between speculative politics - where political viewpoints are presented and explored but not necessarily endorsed (Deux Ex, New Vegas, etc) - and directed politics, where a political viewepoint is openly encouraged, almost lecturing the player. No one likes to be lectured. Lectures aren't fun.
That's a strawman and this thread is filled with strawman arguments too.
>This is exactly why I wasn't bothering. Because you didn't understand the question and you couldn't handle being told you're an idiot? Better to not try at all than risk failing, huh?
being free speech doesn't prevent you from being a hugbox. It depends on the people in said box.
what the fuck are you typing? schizo poster
>What are the IRL applications/implications of Xenoblade Chronicles X, a game about a fictional race destroying the earth, and humanity embarking on a seed ship to start life on a new planet, all the while being hunted by the aliens mentioned earlier? I dunno I haven't played it But it sounds like it's saying racial persecution is bad maybe
Yea Forums was always conservative and racially aware
(Mission begins in 60 seconds)
Protesting against another country's laws in your own country is retarded. It's like protesting against China when you live in the US for example.
See Present a rebuttal to those posts you so direly needed or stop projecting and fuck off.
>also kept and spreads diseases within the species Heteros and homos are just as likely to contract diseases, and neither is more promiscuous than the other. Your worldview isn't built on facts.
Nah it never was. Even when Yea Forums was more left leaning it was even edgier than it is now. Nothing but faggot, tits or g

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Yeah as a theme, a theme for the enemy. Now list all the AAA games that have gays and women as enemies. That's why OP and OP's twitter is full of shit. >political as theme does NOT equal political as forced propaganda on the player
NV unashamedly has an objectivist agenda. And it's not the only Obsidian game to do so.
But fictional geopolitics have always been interesting.
>Being gay is not a big thing! It is for the people in countries where being a homosexual is illegal and punished by death. Incidentally, the pride parades are a protest against those countries, not really a celebration of western homosexuality.
It's always been free speech. That doesn't make it a hugbox, you projecting buffoon. If all you've got left is strawmanning, you might as well just admit you've lost the argument and save some face.
>REEEEE STOP TRIGGERING ME REEEEEEEEEE This applies to both groups, I don't make reality I just observe it.
>Things I like automatically good >Things other people like no one cares about Maybe you should just accept that video games aren't all targeting the same demographic and that's okay
- anti-white
The difference is: >top Is universally portrayed as bad, as the antagonist, as evil. They show you something/someone without relation to you as bad, that you have to fight against. >bottom Womyn are so much better than you fucking males, women are taking over YASSSSSSS QUEEN SLAY! See how perfect she is? Because she's a woman! And why is she so oppressed? Because of (You) fucking males! Try to differentiate between politics and identity politics.
>Other people that you don't like existing is a political agenda Yup, insufferable snowflakes, the lot of you.
Yeah, post CP or break the rules of course you get banned. But it's not reddit where wrong think is purged or shadowbanned or brigaded into oblivion. You're really reaching, and the fact you have that pic on hand is very telling that Yea Forums not being a left w

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Deserved for that title tbh

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Not political >depiction of fascism Political >hey kids you really should do fascism The problem is that these people see the former as a gateway to the latter, due to the idea that any depiction leads to normalization or positive association
>deviancy, perversion >I DON'T LIKE COCK SO NO OTHER MAN SHOULD EVER LIKE IT EITHER. Christ, fuck off back to /pol/.
>I'm going to force American politics on the rest of the world and you're going to like it!
Where's your argument? Didn't your Women's Studies degree teach you how to talk to people without quoting a tumblr tranny?
This nobody is undeniably right. We've been playing political shit forever but now there's a black and it's politics. Such an incredibly stupid arguing clming out from Yea Forums I'm ashamed. But that's whst happens when you parrot these 60 IQ youtubers that you stupid fucks eat up
>Political themes are different from propaganda /thread
Read the thread, it's been laid out quite clearly multiple times. And "mmmm stinky lesbian jew make druckmann pp hard" is a bit worse than what you presented it as.
I'm a bigot for not supporting deviancy, perversion and pedophilia? Fucking hell. It wouldn't shock me if you had a Twitter account with a pizza emoji.
the drama doesn't have to revolve around you you know? way to out yourself as someone with no friends
This right here. They're mad because every game they push like that flops hard. I'm looking forward to the resurgence of titty games in

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>Being gay is not a big thing! It is for the people in countries where being a homosexual is illegal and punished by death. Incidentally, the pride parades are a protest against those countries, not really a celebration of western homosexuality.
The top is when one of the driving factors of the game is political commentary(MGS)OR a setting for the game(all the WW2 shooters out there) The bottom is just virtue signaling and is not a driving factor for the game, but rather something that is intended to push the agenda of a developer or publisher. This cab sometimes be political commentary, but is twitter-tier compared to above which is on the tier of literature.
not that person you're replying to but are you aware of how much of a stereotype you're coming off as right now with all these needlessly long insults when a simple 'fuck you' would have sufficed?
I did. It's nothing but >well, you just hate [whatever]! Strawmen over and over again.
>dullard There you go again with that fag talk we talked about.
>Instituted socialist health care. First proposed by Ronald Reagan and then watered down by Obama do appease the Republicans of his day who had moved significantly further right still.
>women and homosexuals are getting killed on sight in Asia and the middle-east >But lets keep focusing our rage towards the first world and white society, the only civilization that ever managed not to be homophobic and racist, instead of helping said countries. Care to explain?
>Functionally, it's a hugbox, even if mechanically it doesn't align with what you narrowly define as such >That is indeed a hugbox Guess what, faggots - you saying these things here makes Yea Forums LITERALLY not a hugbox. You don't get banned from disagreeing with certain opinions, you don't get "downvoted", you don't get shadowbanned. You can post, and people can post something in reply. No matter how you niggers spin the site (b-but the prevalent opinions, but muh

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>0 reading comprehension Nice rebuttal, faggot. It sure is good that Yea Forums is a hugbox and you cannot disagree with me without facing severe consequences.
Real political issues: -military-industrial complex -colonialism -militarization of the police -social engineering -digital information control -surveillance -fascism -institutional oppression -proxy wars Modern day retards whining: -I have a vagina, give me special treatment ok??! -I am a man who sucks cocks, respect me ok??!
It was a theoretical situation, dude. There's no such thing as magic land. Africa is the most resource rich continent in the world. On paper, they should economically surpass everyone else. Hell, South Africa was giving the US a run for it's money, per capita, before outside forces made South Africa end apartheid before the building of the black middle class was complete. Now there's a genocide against farmers based on skin color and literal race quotas in all jobs, and they are a shit hole.
First off, can you not spell like a total spaz? Second: >if you're not with me YOU'RE AGAINST ME Isn't this the sort of SJW faggotry Yea Forums was rallying against since, I dunno, half a decade ago?
But no game is stressing the point, the characters being a woman, gay or trans is never a huge part of the game, they're always just there.
I guess Super Mario Bros. also presents giving up and committing suicide by jumping into the first pit you see as a legitimate choice equal to all others.
Obtain literacy and then read the thread.
dilate and kill yourself faggot
These people don't differentiate between speculative politics - where political viewpoints are presented and explored but not necessarily endorsed (Deux Ex, New Vegas, etc) - and directed politics, where a political viewepoint is openly encouraged, almost lecturing the player. No one likes to be lectured. Lectures aren't fun.
I never made that argument. But I might buy games in the top part, and

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>Yea Forums was always conservative It wasn't.
it doesn't though, because in deus ex you can side with any of them and there are positives and negatives to all of them, while every other choice is in a better light the illuminatti is still pretty solid. overpopulation and useless people draggin humanity down is a solid thing to consider. It's the same in New Vegas baring the legion becausse they were never finished, there's basically no bad guys besides that, they all have positives and negatives some less so then others. For example I always go for house, but plenty of peopel think he's shit and go yes man or ncr and will defend it to teh death. That's proper political framing, not literal propaganda these commie fucks in california want to feed you.
And why the fuck is this shitty thread in /pol/?
LMAO, also >2012 >IE u wot m8?
>presenting it as a reasonable viewpoint Gee, I wonder why video games haven't done this. Hint: fascism isn't a reasonable viewpoint.
And I got called a homophobe for not liking the fact that it was essentially a walking simulator that could be beaten in under 2 minutes if you knew what to do. Not once did I bring up the sexuality of the characters in my criticisms, yet I was attacked as though I did.
since we're going with strawmans these are the people saying you just hate gays and women
>above: real world politics >below: "let me tell you how much I like shoving dicks up my ass." Gee, I wonder why people don't like political video games anymore.
>It's blatant double standards when other normal human beings are automatically portrayed as good while fascism is at best neutral No, its not. Oh, right, you don't see them as other human beings, because you're an inbred /pol/flake who is triggered endlessly and eternally by anything that doesn't fit your extremely narrow worldview, which is basically everything beyond fervent, self-destructive nationalism and PBR.
The problem is that writ

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Where did it do that? By depicting the capitalist democrats as incompetent bumbling idiots, and the literal fascist bigots as a well oiled machine, and giving you the choice between them or neither?
First is worldbuilding. Second is politics aimed to divide people from the real world. There you go.
being free speech doesn't prevent you from being a hugbox. It depends on the people in said box.
>let's all forget the reason for colonialism and pretend it's all because colonialist are saints that came to save those savage animals Only in this god forsaken site that you'll see such thoughts
dilate and kill yourself faggot
Are "men's" rights (just basic human rights that should apply to everybody who's unambiguously human) an unambiguous good?
Real political issues: -military-industrial complex -colonialism -militarization of the police -social engineering -digital information control -surveillance -fascism -institutional oppression -proxy wars Modern day retards whining: -I have a vagina, give me special treatment ok??! -I am a man who sucks cocks, respect me ok??!
>politics that affect me are the good politics and interesting >politics that affect people who aren't me are the bad politics and boring
Most games use the first list as an interesting backdrop/framework to build their world and story around. Shoving women, minorities and homosexuals into main roles just to be progressive isn't the same thing. If it's used realistically and in service of the story it's okay.
>Not political Stuff not actually pertaining to our current political climate and its issues. >Political Stuff far too closely pertaining to our current political climate and its issues. Hell, that was easy.
Not Pol, true gamers in general
have sex
Idpol is politics, you just don't like it cause you're sexist/racist/homophobic/etc
>centre-right >Instituted socialist health care. Not in the US, he wasn't. The left has just gone nuts since 2012, and isn'

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>HuR CaAn u SPEEELl!?1? fuck off and die resetera tranny
But fictional geopolitics have always been interesting.
Look, I get youre from reddit, so let me clue you in: No one outside of your echochamber hugbox that buries wrongthink buys that for even a second. You can advocate violence all day as long as you're a lefty. Just look at Chapo whatever the fuck it is.
LAST ONE ALIVE LOCK THE DOOR
>anime avatar >is a tranny every single time, why do trannies love anime?
>basic human rights applying to everyone is "domestic politics" Shit, sounds like every game should address this if think not being a retarded bigot cowering in fear of non-whites and female (males) every waking moment is just "domestic politics"
>I never made that argument. Then you're not even talking about the thread's topic >But I might buy games in the top part, and will specifically avoid games in the bottom. If you want to know why, the answer is simple: I am not interested in those concepts. That is not a "why" it's essentially just a rephrasing of the first part Fuck, why are you such an incredible dullard
You people really are the easiest to bait
Then Obama happened and all the /new/tards couldn't handle it and lost their shit like the special little snowflakes that they are
When people say they are "tired of politics in video games" they actually mean they don't like flat, unprovoking writing. Deus Ex is good because although there are very political viewpoints, none is presented as right and you are left to make your own decision about the future.
All of those subjects are political. But the last two are trite enough due to flooding over every form of media except video games that there's no way I'm going to spend money on those subjects. In fact, when I see games focus on those subjects, I typically see them as red flags, as they are virtue signaling to try and get praise from reviewers, despite the gameplay being some of the most boring you

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terrific, didn't even remember being able to see her tits from the side

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turn off net to canada, turn cocks towards her pussy

Prime Jen remains unbeaten

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ayy the faggots here

Where did it do that? By depicting the capitalist democrats as incompetent bumbling idiots, and the literal fascist bigots as a well oiled machine, and giving you the choice between them or neither?
>deviancy, perversion >I DON'T LIKE COCK SO NO OTHER MAN SHOULD EVER LIKE IT EITHER. Christ, fuck off back to /pol/.
People have given rebuttals. We want well written, nuanced politics not shit that just gets dropped into a game for no reason.
that's literally all games talk about you faggot
That implies shit like TLOU can even hold a crumb of wax to GTASA. Are you not aware pirating exists?
>also kept and spreads diseases within the species Heteros and homos are just as likely to contract diseases, and neither is more promiscuous than the other. Your worldview isn't built on facts.
These people don't differentiate between speculative politics - where political viewpoints are presented and explored but not necessarily endorsed (Deux Ex, New Vegas, etc) - and directed politics, where a political viewepoint is openly encouraged, almost lecturing the player. No one likes to be lectured. Lectures aren't fun.
I see, but can you explain to me how a facist sate chooses it's leader? Is it by the leader himself choosing a successor? And it sounds very similar to monarchism but without a ruling family to me
Yea Forums loves San Andreas because it came out when white sub-urban kids thought gangsta-rap was the shit
I guess Super Mario Bros. also presents giving up and committing suicide by jumping into the first pit you see as a legitimate choice equal to all others.
No, I'm not. I'm talking to a person asking why I spend money on some subjects, but not on others. The answer, as always, is that I spend my money on shit I'm interested in, and withhold it from shit I'm not interested in. I don't give a shit about woman issues or gay rights. Both groups have legal parity to men/straight, and the politics of both is over. To pretend otherwi

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You people really are the easiest to bait
>They apply to everyone anyway. Not really.
>We want well written, nuanced politics And when you get them and those politics don't agree with your own, you proclaim them badly written and shoehorned.
>report >hide thread Problem solved. Now tell me how to get quota hire SJWs to fuck off with the agendas in vidya.
PROTIP: Games have shitty writing in general.
kys, newfag
niggers faggot incels who can't get laid
How can you twist nothing into what you just wrote? Can you point out to me where I said fascist government good or anything like it? Please? Do it? Your victim complex runs DEEP. You are more paranoid than a random /pol/ack in Jerusalem.
Not sure what is wrong with this. They are entirely right. Only womans and gAy? are political. Everything else is just good fun.
It happened gradually. During Bush it was quite liberal.
Ah, shit I missed that you're a faggot too. I thought you were talking about LGBT in general, not just the Pride bullshit. We agree then. Pride doesn't go to Saudi/China/Congo/whatever because Pride knows it would be hard. Pride wants an easy life in the West protesting minimal bullshit, not making -actually oppressed- gay's life better.
How many games have the status of women and gays and minorities as the actual premise and goal of the game, as opposed to just featuring them and saying "they're here and they're great, deal with it"? Is there a single game where instating egalitarianism is the goal, where you fight for someone's rights, where the player character itself is impacted by them? Seems to me like people don't mind political conflicts, but they do mind political statements.
>I voted for Obama twice >I held my nose to vote for Trump over Clinton, >he's been a pretty awesome president >And then everyone got up and clapped. Excellent tale user
>story written by white males about white males depicts some of the white males as good and some as b

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>Prime Jen remains unbeaten
That implies shit like TLOU can even hold a crumb of wax to GTASA. Are you not aware pirating exists?
Top can typically be expanded upon in a meaningful way in the sense you can learn more about the setting, story, and struggle of the setting. Bottom usually can't, isn't well written, and is often shoehorned in a short moment. Bottom is also SJW tripe that tries to appeal to you emotionally while suggesting its significance in a societal context.
>thinks i'm a tranny legitimate schizo, get that checked out
Are you really so young that seems incredulous to you? I voted for Obama his first term, and I voted for Trump, too.
And I got called a homophobe for not liking the fact that it was essentially a walking simulator that could be beaten in under 2 minutes if you knew what to do. Not once did I bring up the sexuality of the characters in my criticisms, yet I was attacked as though I did.
because they aren't the ones censoring video games or trying to get devs fired from their jobs for not putting black people in their games and defending giant corporations just because they are WOKE
How about when they start forcing agendas onto your board? You can move the goalposts all you like but the fact is we used to mock conservatives for the exact same thing Yea Forums now does on a daily basis and it had nothing to do with how likely we thought they were to affect any actual change. We just thought it was fucking retarded. Hey, it's not me you need to convince, it's the people in charge of making those changes. Maybe if you cry hard enough they'll think preserving white purity in video games is important too.
the drama doesn't have to revolve around you you know? way to out yourself as someone with no friends
No, women aren't. You figured that one out. Woman=easy mode in 99.999% of the cases.
>presenting it as a reasonable viewpoint Gee, I wonder why video games haven't done this. Hint: fascism isn't a reasonable viewpoint.

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yes miss Attention whore?

Fictional idpol agitprop.
No shit. Go to twitter and search "Yea Forums pol", it's all mentally ill sjws posting there all the time.
Yea Forums loves San Andreas because it came out when white sub-urban kids thought gangsta-rap was the shit
I think most people just don't care. Even Yea Forums will bitch about it here but then still buy the game.
absolutely not
Politics in games is perfectly fine in all its forms until /pol/tards get triggered, then its >REEEEEEEEE GET POLITICS OUT OF MY GAMES REEEEEEEEEEE >NON-WHITES AND WOMEN NOOOOOOOOOOOOO /pol/flakes are beyond fragile, all it takes is to remind them of the mere notion that a non-white, non-straight, non-male exists somewhere in the world and isn't subservient to white males to make their heads instantly explode.
Most games that uses the themes stated above do so for the sake of setting things in motion and what's usually a manichaeistic plot against a Big Bad that can do this because that shows powers. No one ever pretended any games won oscars for their stories for this very reason.
>Functionally, it's a hugbox, even if mechanically it doesn't align with what you narrowly define as such >That is indeed a hugbox Guess what, faggots - you saying these things here makes Yea Forums LITERALLY not a hugbox. You don't get banned from disagreeing with certain opinions, you don't get "downvoted", you don't get shadowbanned. You can post, and people can post something in reply. No matter how you niggers spin the site (b-but the prevalent opinions, but muh libtard threads) doesn't change the literal fucking meaning of the word "hugbox".
It's not like this conversation was going anywhere anyways. You have maybe 30 people making valid points but the opposition will only see the 3-4 retarded post and argue with them so they can feel justified.
This.
Different people will tell you different things. But generic fascism in the opinion of roger griffin is defined as a form of palingenetic populist ultra

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name one reason why games have to be political, especially modern day politics and how it makes the game good?
>my wee wee got hard looking at princess peach and now I don't know what to do
Top: Actual issues Bottom: First world problems
One is sending a political message that the developer wants the other is just a story.
>Being gay is not a big thing! It is for the people in countries where being a homosexual is illegal and punished by death. Incidentally, the pride parades are a protest against those countries, not really a celebration of western homosexuality.
I don't go to /pol/, but you seem more triggered that I'm not interested in the kind of "political games" that you are interested in.
>Not treating women, gays and non-whites as if they're worth less than white men is hypocritical go get triggered elsewhere, /pol/flake
I explicitly pointed out the lack of actual examples, and I provided an example of my own that showed the inconsistency of their reasoning. Your only response is to maintain in spite of all the evidence that they have already given me what I asked for, and when I asked you to point me out, you pointed me at posts that didn't.
The top is when one of the driving factors of the game is political commentary(MGS)OR a setting for the game(all the WW2 shooters out there) The bottom is just virtue signaling and is not a driving factor for the game, but rather something that is intended to push the agenda of a developer or publisher. This cab sometimes be political commentary, but is twitter-tier compared to above which is on the tier of literature.
Because talking about politics in video games apparently belongs here for some reason.
>Deus Ex still says "hey maybe a cabal of ultra-rich people calling the shots for everyone is a bad way to do things and true democracy is better" Don't project your impressions of the plot as the things the game said or implied as the only good outcomes of the prese

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Big talk coming from a bunch of actual pedophiles who got kicked off Gaf. It's fucking weird how much Neogaf has changed since this cancer was purged from their ranks. It's exactly like the forums of old, Nugaf despises all this lefty political wankery and just wants good games.
Good post
It's almost as if the first list is made of up of interesting concepts to explore in a fictional universe and/or narrative, while the second list has little to no place in them at all and are not comparable...
I'm a bigot for not supporting deviancy, perversion and pedophilia? Fucking hell. It wouldn't shock me if you had a Twitter account with a pizza emoji.
>politics that affect me are the good politics and interesting >politics that affect people who aren't me are the bad politics and boring
>MGS has always had a very on the nose anti-war message which results in a boss fight that has you confront the lives you took or killing too much causing guilt-induced flashbacks or covering you in blood and making you look more like an actual demon. >if you kill you feel bad Wow, what a message, I can't believe you got it. You must have an IQ. >MGS is not ambiguous on war at all Except it is. The message never was "We must stop the war", and neither was it ever the stated goal in any metal gear ever. The message has always been about personal development, nearly absent of any political message unless you are mentally ill and think everything is political. The message of the games is always related to manipulation and ego.
Games having female and fag characters isn't an SJW agenda. Its just games having female and fag characters. Sounds like you're just a triggered snowflake who needs to grow a pair of balls.
That's not what you were saying and not what the person you replied to was saying. The connotation was "X GOOD". And such a blanket statement is retarded and hypocritical when combined with opposition to stuff like "WHITE GOOD", "M

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>GAYS, BLACKS, WOMEN, TRANSEX >*exist* >/pol/ reaction: >REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE STOP WITH THE POLITICS IN MUH GAAEYMS
realpolitik vs identity politics
I was called a homophobe because I said it was a boring walking simulator that could be beaten in a minute or two if you knew what to do. They said I was inventing reasons to hate the game because I secretly hate the gays.
>I'm triggered so you can't talk about thing that triggers me
fuck off vegan bitch eat shit vegan cunt so what, you vegan retard? fuck off with your identity politics, it's uninteresting why don' you care about starving african niglets? >basic human rights what does that have to do with video games, you s o y vegan cunt? this is exactly how it has to be, otherwise it's just a developer pushing his ideology on you, making the game a shit show for political correctness points gay emotional dramas are for faggots female emotional dramas are for females you vegan cunt you're a vegan have you always been a vegan bitch? you're vegan
Because fucking discord retards infiltrated Yea Forums and its "staff"
ive never seen a sjw game with a plot more intelligent than "womans" and "gAy?" though
>Things I like automatically good >Things other people like no one cares about Maybe you should just accept that video games aren't all targeting the same demographic and that's okay
being free speech doesn't prevent you from being a hugbox. It depends on the people in said box.
>I never made that argument. Then you're not even talking about the thread's topic >But I might buy games in the top part, and will specifically avoid games in the bottom. If you want to know why, the answer is simple: I am not interested in those concepts. That is not a "why" it's essentially just a rephrasing of the first part Fuck, why are you such an incredible dullard
I'm so tired of these arguments Its being had by two groups of retards who etch through social media find to find the abso

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>Politics that make interesting subjects to base games around: Physical Conflict >Politics that would entertain a prepubescent child and/or women who watch soaps/"reality" tv shows: Emotional Conflict I feel like if I had to overthrow the [insert totalitarian government here] in order to fight for gay women's rights, I wouldn't mind "politics" in games. Literally doesn't even matter what I'm fighting for as long as I get to kill (somewhat) indiscriminately.
Right, all those posts are exactly what I said. Assertions with no evidence. One is good, the other is bad, but no reason why. Except when the reason is "well I just don't like women or LGBT issues" but then those are beyond help, aren't they? So, once again, I am talking about the people who assert that the problem is NOT that they dislike women or gays but that it's a matter of how the topic is handled. MGS is incredibly hamfisted, to speak with one of the guys you quoted, and yet it doesn't draw any ire from Yea Forums, contrary to some others which are not at all hamfisted but just happen to touch upon a verboten subject.
>screams /pol/ at reasonable and well thought out opinions long held by Yea Forums >has /pol/ meme flag set and the mask falls off
Good post
When people say they are "tired of politics in video games" they actually mean they don't like flat, unprovoking writing. Deus Ex is good because although there are very political viewpoints, none is presented as right and you are left to make your own decision about the future.
>High politics >Low politics jejejejej
You are so dense, uranium would be jealous of you. Where have I said anything you mention? I pointed out that the idea of GROUP X GOOD, GROUP Y NEUTRAL is hypocritical, which, by any measure of reason, it is. What you are doing is constructing fantasies over and over an over again, reading things into stuff never said to fuel your victim complex and push your agenda. You are beyond saving, your brain

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name one reason why games have to be political, especially modern day politics and how it makes the game good?
Forgot to mention that I want old game design back, where sexy women and sexy men kick ass (like Ninja Gaiden and DoA). I want to burn the fucker who thought making vidya characters ugly was a good idea.
Not sure why you newfags think anyone who disagrees with you is /pol/. Yea Forums has hated sjw agenda in vidya ever since it reared its annoying head through channels such as hamburger helper at bioware.
She's right. Political isn't bad, in fact it's great. What's bad is these things being here to make you like them, as opposed to make you think about them.
>Forcing you to play as a tranny is my HUMAN RIGHT amerilard logic
Because talking about politics in video games apparently belongs here for some reason.
>But the bigger problem with it is that it isn't actually a game and there is absolutely no way it would ever be fun or engaging. You just lack creativity.
How many times any of those topics were pushed on us as unambiguous good? Yeah, just as I thought.
>GAYS, BLACKS, WOMEN, TRANSEX >*exist* >/pol/ reaction: >REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE STOP WITH THE POLITICS IN MUH GAAEYMS
>go to third world >colonize land >bring technology, infrastructure and welfare >locals bitch about being oppressed >colonists leave and gib land back >let everything that was brought and built by the colonists rot >fall back into 3rd-world tier state >bitch to former colonists for reparashuns
Nigga, you cannot point out one post in this thread that provides the explanation I asked for. Not one. I dare you to point it out. Saying "read the thread" is not an answer. How about you read the thread because I have and I'm right which means you're bullshitting.
Nah it never was. Even when Yea Forums was more left leaning it was even edgier than it is now. Nothing but faggot, tits or gtfo and stick sharpie in pooper. Perpetually offended fags would

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That implies shit like TLOU can even hold a crumb of wax to GTASA. Are you not aware pirating exists?
Top can typically be expanded upon in a meaningful way in the sense you can learn more about the setting, story, and struggle of the setting. Bottom usually can't, isn't well written, and is often shoehorned in a short moment. Bottom is also SJW tripe that tries to appeal to you emotionally while suggesting its significance in a societal context

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That implies shit like TLOU can even hold a crumb of wax to GTASA. Are you not aware pirating exists?
Top can typically be expanded upon in a meaningful way in the sense you can learn more about the setting, story, and struggle of the setting. Bottom usually can't, isn't well written, and is often shoehorned in a short moment.Bottom is also SJW tripe that tries to appeal to you emotionally while suggesting its significance in a societal context

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weeeeeeeeeew

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I don't like dis

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Where's your argument? Didn't your Women's Studies degree teach you how to talk to people without quoting a tumblr tranny?
She's right. Political isn't bad, in fact it's great. What's bad is these things being here to make you like them, as opposed to make you think about them.
BOW DOWN TO US JAPANESE DEVS
Not Pol, true gamers in general
>GAYS, BLACKS, WOMEN, TRANSEX >*exist* >/pol/ reaction: >REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE STOP WITH THE POLITICS IN MUH GAAEYMS
dilate and kill yourself faggot
Top can typically be expanded upon in a meaningful way in the sense you can learn more about the setting, story, and struggle of the setting. Bottom usually can't, isn't well written, and is often shoehorned in a short moment. Bottom is also SJW tripe that tries to appeal to you emotionally while suggesting its significance in a societal context.
>politics worth discussing >random pandering to literally noone who even bought the game
However you spin it, sjw whinging is always annoying. Push your faggoty agenda elsewhere.
The problem is that writers who push women and gays are usually shit fucking writers who wouldn't know subtlety if it hit them over the head, they see other writers using political themes and go "OH GUESS POLITICAL THEMES ARE OKAY IN VIDEOGAMES TIME TO PUSH MY WORLDVIEW ONTO EVERYONE ELSE" and in missing the techniques normal writers use, their work sticks out like a sore thumb. When good writers push women and gays, no one even notices.
>I said they're doing it just to be progressive, which is literally why they do it. It's simple virtue signalling. And you automatically jump to this because you cannot fathom the idea that these people might genuinely believe in the shit they make and WANT to do it, that they MUST instead be doing it because tokenism and virtue signaling. Because that's all your narrow /pol/flake worldview allows you to see, any game involving women, gays or other minorities is automatically j

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That implies shit like TLOU can even hold a crumb of wax to GTASA. Are you not aware pirating exists?
Top can typically be expanded upon in a meaningful way in the sense you can learn more about the setting, story, and struggle of the setting. Bottom usually can't, isn't well written, and is often shoehorned in a short moment. Bottom is also SJW tripe that tries to appeal to you emotionally while suggesting its significance in a societal context....

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Good thing I only play RTS games on PC, japanese games and old games or the odd ñew game that appeals to me like RE2 remake, oh WAIT that's also japanese. I don't eat garbage like modern AAA western tash where literally every character must be a pozzed faggot tranny nigger. I hope all these pozzed faggots get AIDS and die and these publishers go bankrupt when their slot machine games that feature gay nigger pride parades go bankrupt once lootboxes get banned.
>SJW cuckazoids start with the "what i don't like shouldn't be allowed" shit >get punched back >now whine There's nothing to defend. Suck it.
When was the last time feminism and LGBT issues were ever well-written and naturally fit in a game? I literally cannot think of one example.
>Not treating women, gays and non-whites as if they're worth less than white men is hypocritical go get triggered elsewhere, /pol/flake
yes, hamfisted politics is the same as politcal themes in games. Fucking retard
history isn't politics.
>colonialism >institutional oppression oh you mean the leftie version of it that nobody likes? Peopel tolerate the rest because it shows how dangerous those thing scan be but doens't outright label it as bad, for fucks sake the whole patriots thin in metal gear was showing it was bad but was it really THAT bad compared to the alternative. It was more or less unbaiased, jsut like politics in witcher 3. Nobody likes shit with clear cut biased agendas that finger wag when you don't do the "right" thing based on some cuck in commifornia's sensibilities. I hope China nukes those faggots.
Top can typically be expanded upon in a meaningful way in the sense you can learn more about the setting, story, and struggle of the setting. Bottom usually can't, isn't well written, and is often shoehorned in a short moment. Bottom is also SJW tripe that tries to appeal to you emotionally while suggesting its significance in a societal context.
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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human rights is a buzzword the usa invented to justify invading the middle east, do not use it
first of all >twitter screenshot the guys who make this type of threads should get shoot, and mods are trannies/cücks who don't delete this types of threads, second, this thread is going to reach 500 posts and 200 images, click here to replay? Third, games don't need politic bullshit down people throats you fucking niggers. And my last point, the people who want politics bullshit in video games and not fun/gameplay, are like pic related.
I have no doubt there were actual racists here. But the atmosphere was irreverent and the discourse wasn't dominated by literal Nazi talking points. It was just the casual racism of a bunch of white teenagers, which is real, yes, but comparatively harmless. On the rare times that the discussion turned to actual policy, the consensus tended to the left.
Why are you illiterate?
name one reason why games have to be political, especially modern day politics and how it makes the game good?
find love.
How many times any of those topics were pushed on us as unambiguous good? Yeah, just as I thought.
I wish those bottom topics would not affect me, but they try their best/worst to do.
You misrepresented what I said. Politics INSIDE THE GAME ITSELF is different from politics IRL. Feel free to keep straw manning me, and I'll keep correctign you.
Reagan wasn't a Republican. He was a Jack Kennedy Democrat.
because you're pushing it and you don't actually believe it, or are doing so for praise from others. Otherwise it wouldn't need to be said, it would just be.
>They just want this specific thing that triggers them to go away forever Sounds like a fucking snowflake to me
top list doesn't suck dick like bottom list
By that same token, a privately owned messageboard deleting comments as they like isn't infringing on your freedom of speech, either.
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Where have I screamed /pol/ anywhere anyway You just pointed out two random posts by different people who didn't mention /pol/ at all And you know you can set the flag in the reply window right
First is worldbuilding. Second is politics aimed to divide people from the real world. There you go.
Where's your argument? Didn't your Women's Studies degree teach you how to talk to people without quoting a tumblr tranny?
Not political >depiction of fascism Political >hey kids you really should do fascism The problem is that these people see the former as a gateway to the latter, due to the idea that any depiction leads to normalization or positive association
>Forcing you to play as a tranny is my HUMAN RIGHT amerilard logic
>So now the games have to have good writing, and not just present these issues and characters in an organic way? That's what you claimed those games are (which you haven't named yet) so yeah now you get to show us (you won't, because there aren't.)
People don't care about politics really. They care if a game is hamfisted and preachy.
I play games to entertain myself, not to listen to lessons on how to tolerate narcissistic and attention whoring tendencies of feminist and LGBT retards. Don't know what's so hard to understand about this shit.
Politics in games is perfectly fine in all its forms until /pol/tards get triggered, then its >REEEEEEEEE GET POLITICS OUT OF MY GAMES REEEEEEEEEEE >NON-WHITES AND WOMEN NOOOOOOOOOOOOO /pol/flakes are beyond fragile, all it takes is to remind them of the mere notion that a non-white, non-straight, non-male exists somewhere in the world and isn't subservient to white males to make their heads instantly explode.
83 replies and not a single rebuttal. Pathetic. Gays and women (in particular) have been in video games in the past. And like the 1st list gamers have not had an issue with them. That is because they've been used/written to provide context or commentary W

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That implies shit like TLOU can even hold a crumb of wax to GTASA. Are you not aware pirating exists?
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Kill yourself faggot

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>gays, women, and black people existing is an agenda
Good shit my dude, I forgot to mention slav games but I haven't played any slav game recently. I've been playing DB Fighterz recenty, picked it up after a hiatus, really good stuff. Also having a comfy time with my 3DS. Picked up Vanquish on the sale, it's a blast. I guess the only western game I've played recently is Rising Storm: Vietnam.
Daily reminder that every single Resetera tranny invading Yea Forums right now are exactly like Dayton Hypernova - a man that literally abuses his own parents and has psychotic breakdowns on his Youtube channel. youtube.com/watch?v=rmgnO8Q4x6M
I wish those bottom topics would not affect me, but they try their best/worst to do.
Check on EA right now, they got so rich before pandering to leftists they can afford failures like Battlefield V or Anthem.
Generally the 'bad' part happens after the colonialist leave (see Africa) - while they're there it's all good, the moment they decide to fuck off they leave behind a burned wasteland.
>No arguments, only namecalling and emotional estrogen induced outbursts Sad. >Yes, MGS is unambiguously anti-war Prove it >all the pro-war characters are presented as misguided at best Prove it You are a retard that can't tell the premise from the conclusion. Yes, MGS works under the premise that war is horrible, and anyone sane knows it is, yet it stops short from concluding that war is necessary every single time. There's not one instance of any MGS ending with an anti-war message. Not. One.
stop pulling shit out of your ass you disingenuous tranny faggot, 48% yourself already.
>asscancer man is still spreading butthurt based
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That implies shit like TLOU can even hold a crumb of wax to GTASA. Are you not aware pirating exists?
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>Read the thread, it's been laid out quite clearly multiple times. It hasn't. That's why I asked, retard. You're all asserting things but you're not explaining anything. You can say "oh ya this is good but this is bad" but when I point out an actual example of the truth being opposite to what you claim you can't deal with it. MGS is real fucking on the nose but it is praised by Yea Forums whilst background characters who are casually revealed to be gay draw complaints about "muh forced politics" every time.
The problem is that writers who push women and gays are usually shit fucking writers who wouldn't know subtlety if it hit them over the head, they see other writers using political themes and go "OH GUESS POLITICAL THEMES ARE OKAY IN VIDEOGAMES TIME TO PUSH MY WORLDVIEW ONTO EVERYONE ELSE" and in missing the techniques normal writers use, their work sticks out like a sore thumb. When good writers push women and gays, no one even notices.
>HuR CaAn u SPEEELl!?1? fuck off and die resetera tranny
sometimes violence is necessary, your side has no problems with antifa right?
Unironically this.
And you're a retard that can't tell conclusions from themes. You really think there aren't games out there that downplay the horrible aspects of war, that present war as a spectacle with the good guys prevailing over the nasty bad guys in the end? Have you heard of this series called Call of Duty? It's pretty underground, you should check it out.
>dullard There you go again with that fag talk we talked about.
it doesn't though, because in deus ex you can side with any of them and there are positives and negatives to all of them, while every other choice is in a better light the illuminatti is still pretty solid. overpopulation and useless people draggin humanity down is a solid thing to consider. It's the same in New Vegas baring the legion becausse they were never finished, there's basically no bad guys besides that, they all have p

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The difference is: >top Is universally portrayed as bad, as the antagonist, as evil. They show you something/someone without relation to you as bad, that you have to fight against. >bottom Womyn are so much better than you fucking males, women are taking over YASSSSSSS QUEEN SLAY! See how perfect she is? Because she's a woman! And why is she so oppressed? Because of (You) fucking males! Try to differentiate between politics and identity politics.
>Stop being a bigot >I get to define what a bigot is or change the meaning whenever it's convenient You don't want people to stop being bigots, you want everyone to think exactly like you. Anyone who disagrees with you is a bigot after all.
>moving the goalposts >strawman Again, its all fine until its something that triggers /pol/flakes, then its >REEEEEEEEE PROPAGANDA >NOOOOOOOO POLITICAL AGENDA
can you point me to change being forced from them crying? they just get dismissed now, this isnt the 90s. sjws dominate socially and are at the forefront of all censorship and cultural outrages
>Deus Ex still says "hey maybe a cabal of ultra-rich people calling the shots for everyone is a bad way to do things and true democracy is better" Don't project your impressions of the plot as the things the game said or implied as the only good outcomes of the presented situation. What fucking "true democracy" if the endings have an absolute AI ruler or you literally letting the Illuminati stay in charge? Have you even played the game?
We asked him 4 times to name some games in which idpol shit is well-written and he didn't answer once. Just give up, user.
>Not being able to openly be a bigot without consequence means MUH FREES PEACH DUN GITTIN STEP'D ON
this It's only really a problem in mutt gaming communities and mutt servers. Also stop buying EA shit and other AAA cancer you absolute fucking retards.
>The companies are literally pointing out how they have more women/poc characters.

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That implies shit like TLOU can even hold a crumb of wax to GTASA. Are you not aware pirating exists?
Because talking about politics in video games apparently belongs here for some reason.
This is the saddest example of "rent free" I have ever seen.
I don't even know what to say about this
fuck off vegan bitch eat shit vegan cunt so what, you vegan retard? fuck off with your identity politics, it's uninteresting why don' you care about starving african niglets? >basic human rights what does that have to do with video games, you s o y vegan cunt? this is exactly how it has to be, otherwise it's just a developer pushing his ideology on you, making the game a shit show for political correctness points gay emotional dramas are for faggots female emotional dramas are for females you vegan cunt you're a vegan have you always been a vegan bitch? you're vegan
>>womans GOOD AND IF YOU DISAGREE YOU'RE A LITERAL NAZI >gAy? GOOD AND IF YOU DISAGREE YOU'RE A LITERAL NAZI Yes, judging and hating other people based solely on their sex, race etc. is the definition of bigotry. Fuck, you /pol/tards are fucking stupid. If you don't want people calling you a bigot, stop being a bigot. Pretty simple.
Deus Ex still says "hey maybe a cabal of ultra-rich people calling the shots for everyone is a bad way to do things and true democracy is better" Sure you can side with the bad guys but that doesn't mean you didn't fuck up
Name a game people actually played, you fuck. Walking simulator shit doesn't count.
I explicitly pointed out the lack of actual examples, and I provided an example of my own that showed the inconsistency of their reasoning. Your only response is to maintain in spite of all the evidence that they have already given me what I asked for, and when I asked you to point me out, you pointed me at posts that didn't.
>Yea Forums was always conservative It wasn't.
Gone Home.
Have you tried not being a bigot
Real political issues

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All I need to know about fascism in videogames is whether I can shoot fascists or not
>But it's not reddit where wrong think is purged or shadowbanned or brigaded into oblivion. "Wrong think" isn't purged from Reddit either, and it's pretty easy to find subreddits where likeminded people gather. Where Reddit draws the line is advocating for violence, like the_Donald and Frenworld.
>built a story based on western memes about ussr >"why ruskies no like" i wonder
>screams /pol/ at reasonable and well thought out opinions long held by Yea Forums >has /pol/ meme flag set and the mask falls off
I don't even know what to say about this
not him, but in that case the entire "game" is obviously made with the intent of virtue signalling. But the bigger problem with it is that it isn't actually a game and there is absolutely no way it would ever be fun or engaging.
Daily reminder that anybody who expresses left-wing or right-wing politics outside of /pol/ deserves a permanent rangeban and the ban page should redirect to /pol/ for redditers and resetera for trannies.
>People doing things I don't like is "deviancy" and "perversion" Another triggered /pol/flake
I don't go to /pol/, but you seem more triggered that I'm not interested in the kind of "political games" that you are interested in.
Protesting against another country's laws in your own country is retarded. It's like protesting against China when you live in the US for example.
How many times any of those topics were pushed on us as unambiguous good? Yeah, just as I thought.
Not Pol, true gamers in general
>Your board didn't exist before I started visiting it. Really, you came to Yea Forums in 2003?
And why the fuck is this shitty thread in /pol/?
Yes, great example of the characters just being incidentally gay in a game that is primarily a faux ghost story about unravelling the mystery of an empty house in a detailed period-accurate setting with a hidden subplot told through environ

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>The problem is that writers who push women and gays are usually shit fucking writers who wouldn't know subtlety if it hit them over the head, they see other writers using political themes and go "OH GUESS POLITICAL THEMES ARE OKAY IN VIDEOGAMES TIME TO PUSH MY WORLDVIEW ONTO EVERYONE ELSE" and in missing the techniques normal writers use, their work sticks out like a sore thumb. When good writers push women and gays, no one even notices.

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Notice how it starts with the racist kid assuming it's a terrible game and he'll probably hate it. He probably only played it because it's the new GTA and he's only allowed to buy so many games in a year. Now imagine that kid being a grown manchild, posting in this thread about how he won't buy any games he's not interested in. That final panel will never come to pass. He will always remain the person in the first panel, forever bitching about having to play as fucking niggers.
What's wrong with that? When people don't want politics in video games, they don't want idpol garbage.
>but was it really THAT bad Yes, it really was, seeing as how the Patriots ushered in an age of perpetual war where literally everybody was the loser.
Going around almost naked in public when there's kids around isn't deviancy and perversion to you? Have some manners.
ebig :^) This was my board way before you people started shitting it up
>godforsaken site Well, have you considered going back?
>And when you get them and those politics don't agree with your own, you proclaim them badly written and shoehorned. Name one then.
Are you going to name a well written game that uses these politics?
>basic human rights applying to everyone is "domestic politics" Shit, sounds like every game should address this if think not being a retarded bigot cowering in fear of non-whites and female (males) every waking moment is just "domestic politics"
The never did my dude
We should have a system in place that any social media posts instantly get deleted and get the OP banned for 2 weeks
Because I can kill literally anyone in NV. So proselytizing characters get nutted on.
Your brain on leftism
>If you didn't care about politics you won't notice and it wouldn't affect you don't you think? No you dumb nigger, I only got into this shit BECAUSE it was in everything. It took me thinking "man this don't seem right something's wrong" for a few years and before I rea

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The problem is that writers who push women and gays are usually shit fucking writers who wouldn't know subtlety if it hit them over the head, they see other writers using political themes and go "OH GUESS POLITICAL THEMES ARE OKAY IN VIDEOGAMES TIME TO PUSH MY WORLDVIEW ONTO EVERYONE ELSE" and in missing the techniques normal writers use, their work sticks out like a sore thumb. When good writers push women and gays, no one even notices......

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I guess Super Mario Bros. also presents giving up and committing suicide by jumping into the first pit you see as a legitimate choice equal to all others.
I'm so tired of these arguments Its being had by two groups of retards who etch through social media find to find the absolute bottom of the barrel argument written by the biggest mouth breather the world has to offer just so that they can dismiss any argument that even remotely shares a sentiment with it. If that fails, they do what the OP image does and just creates the argument themselves. Demonstrating their mental prowess by outwitting a strawman
One is sending a political message that the developer wants the other is just a story.
it doesn't though, because in deus ex you can side with any of them and there are positives and negatives to all of them, while every other choice is in a better light the illuminatti is still pretty solid. overpopulation and useless people draggin humanity down is a solid thing to consider. It's the same in New Vegas baring the legion becausse they were never finished, there's basically no bad guys besides that, they all have positives and negatives some less so then others. For example I always go for house, but plenty of peopel think he's shit and go yes man or ncr and will defend it to teh death. That's proper political framing, not literal propaganda these commie fucks in california want to feed you.
yep
> Have you heard of this series called Call of Duty? It's pretty underground, you should check it out. You mean the series that literally hits you over the head with anti-war quotes every time you die? Have you? Of course you haven't, you are a retarded sjw who sees politics everywhere. You don't play videogames.
The game industry and game journalism industry doesn't close ranks and defend shitty games in the "non-political" games, but they do on the "political" games you list. This makes the so-called "political" games act

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The never did my dude
>deviancy, perversion >I DON'T LIKE COCK SO NO OTHER MAN SHOULD EVER LIKE IT EITHER. Christ, fuck off back to /pol/.
The top is philosophical the bottom is agenda pushing (politics)
This is the saddest example of "rent free" I have ever seen.
>Present a rebuttal to those posts Read the thread :^)
No, women aren't. You figured that one out. Woman=easy mode in 99.999% of the cases.
That's literally feminisms strategy. They want to "portray women" as all the things women aren't and they think by subtly changing the public consciousness, women will start to be the things they aren't. They think the only reason things are certain ways is because people think of them that way. It is a philosophy of solipsism, that completely turns away from objective and pragmatic truth.
please dont put women in the same category of sodomite degenerates.
How are women's and homosexuals' rights not an unambiguous good?
Not him but if you think pushing progressive agendas in a VIDEO GAME, a medium where the latest releases are enjoy almost exclusively by the first world, will have ANY impact what so ever in developing nations you're a fucking imbecile. This shit is as facile as the feminists claiming about video games being sexist while in part of Asia, the middle-east and Africa women are still property.
>So now the games have to have good writing, and not just present these issues and characters in an organic way? That's what you claimed those games are (which you haven't named yet) so yeah now you get to show us (you won't, because there aren't.)
>but was it really THAT bad Yes, it really was, seeing as how the Patriots ushered in an age of perpetual war where literally everybody was the loser.
>my side is the only good one. Thanks for proving his point muh fox news.
No, I'm not. I'm talking to a person asking why I spend money on some subjects, but not on others. The answer, as always, is that I spend my money on

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OPEN ANOTHER THREAD OR TWO. I'LL KEEP THE SHITCUNT OCCUPIED HERE. FOR THE SPORT.

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since we're going with strawmans these are the people saying you just hate gays and women
I see, but can you explain to me how a facist sate chooses it's leader? Is it by the leader himself choosing a successor? And it sounds very similar to monarchism but without a ruling family to me
I don't have to defend what I want to spend my money on. Companies need to cater to my needs if they want my money, not the other way around.
>I'm triggered so you can't talk about thing that triggers me
Why are women and gays in your video games stopping you from having fun?
That's optimistic, but I do hope most people will just get bored with the internet eventually. Would really do everyone a favor to get on it less and talk to people face to face.
Yeah as a theme, a theme for the enemy. Now list all the AAA games that have gays and women as enemies. That's why OP and OP's twitter is full of shit. >political as theme does NOT equal political as forced propaganda on the player
Because I can kill literally anyone in NV. So proselytizing characters get nutted on.
It happened gradually. During Bush it was quite liberal.
>male character: can you help me find my husband? >wow why dont players like that? They're /pol/flakes, normal people don't give a shit
Yea Forums was always conservative and racially aware
All of those subjects are political. But the last two are trite enough due to flooding over every form of media except video games that there's no way I'm going to spend money on those subjects. In fact, when I see games focus on those subjects, I typically see them as red flags, as they are virtue signaling to try and get praise from reviewers, despite the gameplay being some of the most boring you will ever experience.
>exclusively American internal issues >women and homosexuals aren't getting killed on sight in Asia and the middle-east
By that same token, a privately owned messageboard deleting comments as they like isn't infringing

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How are women's and homosexuals' rights not an unambiguous good?
Not him but if you think pushing progressive agendas in a VIDEO GAME, a medium where the latest releases are enjoy almost exclusively by the first world, will have ANY impact what so ever in developing nations you're a fucking imbecile. This shit is as facile as the feminists claiming about video games being sexist while in part of Asia, the middle-east and Africa women are still property....

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How are women's and homosexuals' rights not an unambiguous good?
Not him but if you think pushing progressive agendas in a VIDEO GAME, a medium where the latest releases are enjoy almost exclusively by the first world, will have ANY impact what so ever in developing nations you're a fucking imbecile.

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>Present a rebuttal to those posts Read the thread :^)
>Stop being a bigot >I get to define what a bigot is or change the meaning whenever it's convenient You don't want people to stop being bigots, you want everyone to think exactly like you. Anyone who disagrees with you is a bigot after all.
You're way worse, though. Dilate and leave.
And you're a retard that can't tell conclusions from themes. You really think there aren't games out there that downplay the horrible aspects of war, that present war as a spectacle with the good guys prevailing over the nasty bad guys in the end? Have you heard of this series called Call of Duty? It's pretty underground, you should check it out.
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Daily reminder that game design and marketing are done by entirely separate teams. A marketing team hired by the publisher highlighting a gay or black character doesn't mean the game itself is propaganda.
Why are you illiterate?
Women are biologically physically inferior and gays can't reproduce or have sex without the help of external tools, in a way they are inferior and also kept and spreads diseases within the species. But I bet no developers would want to entertain these dilemma or else they'll be branded a bigot by retards like you.
I guess Super Mario Bros. also presents giving up and committing suicide by jumping into the first pit you see as a legitimate choice equal to all others.
Nah it never was. Even when Yea Forums was more left leaning it was even edgier than it is now. Nothing but faggot, tits or gtfo and stick sharpie in pooper. Perpetually offended fags would never stay here 10 years ago. I think that's largely in part to shifting party lines. Somehow in the last decade the left has become offended by all words while the right is edgy just as a way to flex their freedom of speech.
How is it vague, user? For fuck's sake, the question is why gays are "political" but actual politics aren't, and you'

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How are women's and homosexuals' rights not an unambiguous good?
Not him but if you think pushing progressive agendas in a VIDEO GAME, a medium where the latest releases are enjoy almost exclusively by the first world, will have ANY impact what so ever in developing nations you're a fucking imbecile.

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YOU ARE MISSING THE OTHER THREADS , MEHMED! WHERE IS YOUR BACKUP... THE YELLOW ... OH WAIT IT DIED ALREADY....

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who ever the original poster is, is a moron I hope he gets fucked by a big fat hairy mandingo

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dilate/seethe/cope/have sex
All I need to know about fascism in videogames is whether I can shoot fascists or not
>Above Interesting shit >Below Not interesting shit
>built a story based on western memes about ussr >"why ruskies no like" i wonder
Yeah yeah, I buy it, you were here since it was known as 3chan. Now, dilate and go back to your discord.
These people don't differentiate between speculative politics - where political viewpoints are presented and explored but not necessarily endorsed (Deux Ex, New Vegas, etc) - and directed politics, where a political viewepoint is openly encouraged, almost lecturing the player. No one likes to be lectured. Lectures aren't fun.
All the top stuff are interesting, and not just attention seeking.
It's always been free speech. That doesn't make it a hugbox, you projecting buffoon. If all you've got left is strawmanning, you might as well just admit you've lost the argument and save some face.
>asscancer man is still spreading butthurt based
If Africa wanted to trade continents with the US and Canada, with the people from both continents swapping locations, I'm pretty sure that the US and Canada would jump on that deal in a New York minute. Africa is still the most resource rich continent in the world.
I thought /leftypol/ was just /pol/ liberals, but after going there I'm starting to believe loud lefty people on Yea Forums are literally from some discord cult trying to destroy the website
Don't play dumb and stop with the strawman. Then again, I can never tell if it's willfully ignorance or genuine stupidity. I don't have a problem with gays or blacks or whatever. I do have a problem with the digital equivalent of a pride parade taking center stage in vidya. I don't care, so fuck of with your agenda. If anything it makes me want to dislike those groups.
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Women are biologically physically inferior and gays can't reproduce or have sex without the help of external tools, in a way they are inferior and also kept and spreads diseases within the species. But I bet no developers would want to entertain these dilemma or else they'll be branded a bigot by retards like you....

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that's the worst thing I've ever read this year.

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If Africa wanted to trade continents with the US and Canada, with the people from both continents swapping locations, I'm pretty sure that the US and Canada would jump on that deal in a New York minute. Africa is still the most resource rich continent in the world.BMBNB

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>If Africa wanted to trade continents with the US and Canada, with the people from both continents swapping locations, I'm pretty sure that the US and Canada would jump on that deal in a New York minute. Africa is still the most resource rich continent in the world.BMBNB

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Can't believe someone is reading shitcunt's posts. I copy paste them combined with nude celebs without even reading...

>Can't believe someone is reading shitcunt's posts. I copy paste them combined with nude celebs without even reading...

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Don't play dumb and stop with the strawman. Then again, I can never tell if it's willfully ignorance or genuine stupidity. I don't have a problem with gays or blacks or whatever. I do have a problem with the digital equivalent of a pride parade taking center stage in vidya. I don't care, so fuck of with your agenda. If anything it makes me want to dislike those groups.
user, you don't get to enjoy things unless I get a say in them. If your hypersexualized games don't appeal to my specific set of gbbb

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Only 1 or 2 everything else is complete word salad.

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>Forgot pic

>Don't play dumb and stop with the strawman. Then again, I can never tell if it's willfully ignorance or genuine stupidity. I don't have a problem with gays or blacks or whatever. I do have a problem with the digital equivalent of a pride parade taking center stage in vidya. I don't care, so fuck of with your agenda. If anything it makes me want to dislike those groups.
>user, you don't get to enjoy things unless I get a say in them. If your hypersexualized games don't appeal to my specific set of gbbb

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Don't play dumb and stop with the strawman. Then again, I can never tell if it's willfully ignorance or genuine stupidity. I don't have a problem with gays or blacks or whatever. I do have a problem with the digital equivalent of a pride parade taking center stage in vidya. I don't care, so fuck of with your agenda. If anything it makes me want to dislike those groups.
Anonet

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out of words already?

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bigger or gtfo

Based and redpilled, the only games I even play nowadays are old shit, Slav (Witcher, Darkwood) and Japanese games. Fuck the pozzed Bay Area industry.
I never made that argument. But I might buy games in the top part, and will specifically avoid games in the bottom. If you want to know why, the answer is simple: I am not interested in those concepts. I play games to escape the cloying mundanity of the shit that gets shoved down my throat in all other mediums, not to get more of it.
The top is philosophical the bottom is agenda pushing (politics)
*don't care if a game has political themes
>I'm not going to spoon-feed a retard Translation: I can't, but if I pretend it's just beneath me I won't have to do shit and can still pretend I won. You don't even understand what I'm asking, do you? It's not that I disagree, it's that none of you have even given me anything to disagree with. You've made assertions without backing them up, and ignored actual evidence to the contrary that I provided. You maintain that the top is all right and the bottom is wrong because of "reasons" but if we look at how those reasons are actually manifested in video games the distinction melts away. Your "reasons" are a bullshit rationalisation.
Not sure why you newfags think anyone who disagrees with you is /pol/. Yea Forums has hated sjw agenda in vidya ever since it reared its annoying head through channels such as hamburger helper at bioware.
stop pulling shit out of your ass you disingenuous tranny faggot, 48% yourself already.
>godforsaken site Well, have you considered going back?
I did. It's nothing but >well, you just hate [whatever]! Strawmen over and over again.
>I was only pretending to be retarded! You got outted. Stay in your containment board next time.
That is, unfortunately, the solemn truth. Democracy is great for mantaining the status quo, but garbage for reform of any kind (always takes >30 years). Despotism is quick and efficent, bu

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>I don't like it so it doesn't count because I say so but I of course am right by cosmic law This is exactly why I wasn't bothering. Chances are you didn't even read them. You're not actually looking to engage in debate, you just want some gotcha moment. Reddit does this same shit every fucking time. Just fuck off, and take your strawman with you.
Gone Home.
Thanks
Kek, the flags say it all. Not just the choice, but the fact that the faggots that scream /pol/ at everything they don't like are culture warriors from /pol/.
Yeah, post CP or break the rules of course you get banned. But it's not reddit where wrong think is purged or shadowbanned or brigaded into oblivion. You're really reaching, and the fact you have that pic on hand is very telling that Yea Forums not being a left wing hugbox ravages your rectum beyond belief.
Yeah, that too. My point stands.
>Politics that make interesting subjects to base games around: Physical Conflict >Politics that would entertain a prepubescent child and/or women who watch soaps/"reality" tv shows: Emotional Conflict I feel like if I had to overthrow the [insert totalitarian government here] in order to fight for gay women's rights, I wouldn't mind "politics" in games. Literally doesn't even matter what I'm fighting for as long as I get to kill (somewhat) indiscriminately.
Nigga, you cannot point out one post in this thread that provides the explanation I asked for. Not one. I dare you to point it out. Saying "read the thread" is not an answer. How about you read the thread because I have and I'm right which means you're bullshitting.
yes, hamfisted politics is the same as politcal themes in games. Fucking retard
Obtain literacy and then read the thread.
>Instituted socialist health care. First proposed by Ronald Reagan and then watered down by Obama do appease the Republicans of his day who had moved significantly further right still.
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That was what ACTUAL FEMINISM was for. Third wave feminism does not give a single fuck about anything that actually matters, especially not in some place thousands of miles away from their chair.
>I pointed out that the idea of GROUP X GOOD, GROUP Y NEUTRAL is hypocritical When GROUP X is "normal human beings who happen to be different from a heterosexual male" and GROUP Y is "fascist government regimes out to oppress everyone who's not a heterosexual male", it really isn't.
>male character: can you help me find my husband? >wow why dont players like that? They're /pol/flakes, normal people don't give a shit
Kek, the flags say it all. Not just the choice, but the fact that the faggots that scream /pol/ at everything they don't like are culture warriors from /pol/.
That's a bit of a stretch, especially considering the alien genociders weren't a single race. Furthermore, even if I was to grant you that point, I would point out the the entire game's story (includin all boss battles) can be watched in about 8 hours. I spent 40 hours on the game before even touching the story, and constantly got side tracked with what the game actually wanted me to do: explore. Any politics that the game had was tangential at best, mostly to give you a reason to just go out into the world and have fun. Gone Home, on the other hand, is "message first, gameplay second," although it was closer to "not at all." When people pointed out how Gone Home was a walking simulator, the devs, the reviewers, and the people who don't normally play games started sperging out and calling everyone homophobes and women haters. What's the reaction from the industry if people didn't like the gameplay or story of Xenoblade Chronicles X (despite the fact that both protagonists were women)? Nothing. They don't care, because Xenoblade X wasn't shilling some stupid progressive message that literally floods all other forms of media. And that's the difference be

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Based and redpilled, the only games I even play nowadays are old shit, Slav (Witcher, Darkwood) and Japanese games. Fuck the pozzed Bay Area industry.
I never made that argument. But I might buy games in the top part, and will specifically avoid games in the bottom. If you want to know why, the answer is simple: I am not interested in those concepts. I play games...

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Based and redpilled, the only games I even play nowadays are old shit, Slav (Witcher, Darkwood) and Japanese games. Fuck the pozzed Bay Area industry.
I never made that argument. But I might buy games in the top part, and will specifically avoid games in the bottom. If you want to know why, the answer is simple: I am not interested in those concepts. I play games,,,,

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Based and redpilled, the only games I even play nowadays are old shit, Slav (Witcher, Darkwood) and Japanese games. Fuck the pozzed Bay Area industry.
I never made that argument. But I might buy games in the top part, and will specifically avoid games in the bottom. If you want to know why, the answer is simple: I am not interested in those concepts. I play gamesss

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I'm so tired of these arguments Its being had by two groups of retards who etch through social media find to find the absolute bottom of the barrel argument written by the biggest mouth breather the world has to offer just so that they can dismiss any argument that even remotely shares a sentiment with it. If that fails, they do what the OP image does and just creates the argument themselves. Demonstrating their mental prowess by outwitting a strawman
LAST ONE ALIVE LOCK THE DOOR
Because I can kill literally anyone in NV. So proselytizing characters get nutted on.
Yeah yeah, I buy it, you were here since it was known as 3chan. Now, dilate and go back to your discord.
>emotional dramas are for children >adults prefer go shoot the bad guys pew pew really nigga
>Read the thread, it's been laid out quite clearly multiple times. It hasn't. That's why I asked, retard. You're all asserting things but you're not explaining anything. You can say "oh ya this is good but this is bad" but when I point out an actual example of the truth being opposite to what you claim you can't deal with it. MGS is real fucking on the nose but it is praised by Yea Forums whilst background characters who are casually revealed to be gay draw complaints about "muh forced politics" every time.
Women shouldn't think about things they cannot understand
>The only people I see doing that ITT Oh, I'm sorry, were you linked to this thread directly from reddit? You should see the rest of the board sometimes. >can you point me to change being forced from them crying? Irrelevant. Fox News didn't get Bioware to change anything either. It's almost as if it's not about the crying, but about whether or not people actually think you're crying for a good reason. Fact remains you're crying all the time, and it's not even accomplishing anything. Now that's just false, Yea Forums explicitly targeted that woman from Nintendo Treehouse for example because they wrongly blamed her

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perfect position for breeding

Based and redpilled, the only games I even play nowadays are old shit, Slav (Witcher, Darkwood) and Japanese games. Fuck the pozzed Bay Area industry.
I never made that argument. But I might buy games in the top part, and will specifically avoid games in the bottom. If you want to know why, the answer is simple

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What's wrong with games simply pointing out that women, gays and minorities being equal to heterosexual men is and should be the norm?
>empty pandering >made up controversies >gaslighting >but muh /pol/boogeyman! Oh, the irony >No one cared that Samus was a girl or Lara Croft was the star of her own series No one cared because /pol/flakes like you weren't around to get triggered yet. >New sci-fi exploration game comes out >Badass protagonist with an alien space suit >Great gameplay >Protagonist revealed to be female >WOOOOOOW FUCKING AGENDA-PUSHING NONSENSE >FUCKING SJW PANDERING >SHES NOT FEMALE IN THE GAME ORGANICLY This is 100% what would fucking happen if Metroid were made today. And you fucking know it, because its exactly how you'd react.
So women and gays should be included in a list of things video games often portray as tools of the enemy?
>SJW cuckazoids start with the "what i don't like shouldn't be allowed" shit >get punched back >now whine There's nothing to defend. Suck it.
They never do. It's always some feminist fanwank.
Top can typically be expanded upon in a meaningful way in the sense you can learn more about the setting, story, and struggle of the setting. Bottom usually can't, isn't well written, and is often shoehorned in a short moment. Bottom is also SJW tripe that tries to appeal to you emotionally while suggesting its significance in a societal context.
This right here. They're mad because every game they push like that flops hard. I'm looking forward to the resurgence of titty games in

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Daily reminder that every single Resetera tranny invading Yea Forums right now are exactly like Dayton Hypernova - a man that literally abuses his own parents and has psychotic breakdowns on his Youtube channel. youtube.com/watch?v=rmgnO8Q4x6M
You mean citizen rights. They apply to everyone anyway. Thanks to men that gave them away. It turned out to be a mistake. Sorry.
- anti-white
user, you don't get to enjoy things unless I get a say in them. If your hypersexualized games don't appeal to my specific set of guidelines then they are problematic and need to be removed. I don't care if your series has been going on for 20+ years and I'm not your target demographic. Even though I'm not buying the game, it doesn't mean my opinion should mean less.
>Politics that make interesting subjects to base games around: Physical Conflict >Politics that would entertain a prepubescent child and/or women who watch soaps/"reality" tv shows: Emotional Conflict I feel like if I had to overthrow the [insert totalitarian government here] in order to fight for gay women's rights, I wouldn't mind "politics" in games. Literally doesn't even matter what I'm fighting for as long as I get to kill (somewhat) indiscriminately.
No, fuck you.
>It was more or less unbaiased, jsut like politics in witcher 3. Nobody likes shit with clear cut biased agendas that finger wag when you don't do the "right" thing based on some cuck in commifornia's sensibilities This. Political themes are different from propaganda. Deus Ex gives you an opportunity to think about its political subjects and ask the hard questions that have no easy answers, while games these California fags prop up straight up tell you what you're supposed to be thinking. People don't like being talked down to as if they're children, simple as that.
Wow, it's almost as if I'm not the perpetually offended fag you need me to be, just someone who's incredibly fed up with /pol/kiddies mak

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Based and redpilled, the only games I even play nowadays are old shit, Slav (Witcher, Darkwood) and Japanese games. Fuck the pozzed Bay Area industry.
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No, fuck you.
>How many games have the status of women and gays and minorities as the actual premise and goal of the game, as opposed to just featuring them and saying "they're here and they're great, deal with it"? They're not great you fucking cunt, they're people, women especially are fucking terrible people and fronting this bullshit women of power stance does nothing for anybody in the long run, but further alienate the peopel who play games. Did Wolfenstein need to shit on Blazkowitz as much as they did? Did TLOU need a lesbian plot? Does every gay person and woman need to be powerful and positive? No it's shitty writing, and it's ideologically charged, for fucks sake marvel figured this out in the 80s and forgot it forever by the 90s just so retarded "liberals" could continue to fuck it up in the future. Every fucking game I play or program I watch has the president as a woman, with white males as bad guys and some shitty hamfisted marxsist oppression olympics message. The last game I played, "The Sinking City" had a fucking scripted event where I called the rich monkey man a bigot, my pc that I'm suppossed to control basically told this monkey man "you know, not all fishmen you should really check your privledge" to which the guy responds "they killed me son are you calling me a bigot?" and your answers are "yes" and "YES YOU FUCKING ASSHOLE". Either way he reconsiders his "prejudice" in teh msot poorly written out of place dialogue I've seen in recent memory. These are not well written conflicts or rights, these are "here is my ideology and if you disagree with it you are wrong and evil and a bigot".
That was what ACTUAL FEMINISM was for. Third wave feminism does not give a single fuck about anything that actually matters, especially not in some place thousands of miles away from their chair.
dilate and kill yourself faggot
You are willfully missing the point. Again. It's blatant double standards when o

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Based and redpilled, the only games I even play nowadays are old shit, Slav (Witcher, Darkwood) and Japanese games. Fuck the pozzed Bay Area industry.
I never made that argument. But I might buy games in the top part, and will specifically avoid games in the bottom. If you want to know why, the answer is simple: I am not interested in those concepts. I play gamesv

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>real problems worth talking about >whiny bullshit
Different people will tell you different things. But generic fascism in the opinion of roger griffin is defined as a form of palingenetic populist ultra nationalism. Palingenesis being a concept of rebirth or re-creation. In his view, Fascism is presented as a "third way" option separate from traditional left v right politics. It promotes worship and reverance of the state and national culture, and often positions the fascist leader as some sort of father figure, with the nation being the mother (motherland). Its separate from monarchy in that monarchism is based on hereditary lines and often the divine right of kings [to rule]. There is also usually more of a focus on religion in monarchies, and they often still have political leanings to the left or right. Fascism is supposed to be both anti left and anti right, in line with its positioning as a radical third path.
It's the same with arguments about how the civil war wasn't about slavery for the South when it absolutely, unambiguously was.
How can you twist nothing into what you just wrote? Can you point out to me where I said fascist government good or anything like it? Please? Do it? Your victim complex runs DEEP. You are more paranoid than a random /pol/ack in Jerusalem.
I was called a homophobe because I said it was a boring walking simulator that could be beaten in a minute or two if you knew what to do. They said I was inventing reasons to hate the game because I secretly hate the gays.
Where did it do that? By depicting the capitalist democrats as incompetent bumbling idiots, and the literal fascist bigots as a well oiled machine, and giving you the choice between them or neither?
I think most people just don't care. Even Yea Forums will bitch about it here but then still buy the game.
I guess Super Mario Bros. also presents giving up and committing suicide by jumping into the first pit you see as a legitimate c

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Based and redpilled, the only games I even play nowadays are old shit, Slav (Witcher, Darkwood) and Japanese games. Fuck the pozzed Bay Area industry.
I never made that argument. But I might buy games in the top part, and will specifically avoid games in the bottom. If you want to know why, the answer is simple: I am not interested in those concepts. I play games,,,,,,,

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go dilate, tranny.
>The only people I see doing that ITT Oh, I'm sorry, were you linked to this thread directly from reddit? You should see the rest of the board sometimes. >can you point me to change being forced from them crying? Irrelevant. Fox News didn't get Bioware to change anything either. It's almost as if it's not about the crying, but about whether or not people actually think you're crying for a good reason. Fact remains you're crying all the time, and it's not even accomplishing anything. Now that's just false, Yea Forums explicitly targeted that woman from Nintendo Treehouse for example because they wrongly blamed her for getting rid of their animu tiddies.
even one boob is too much
That's optimistic, but I do hope most people will just get bored with the internet eventually. Would really do everyone a favor to get on it less and talk to people face to face.
BOW DOWN TO US JAPANESE DEVS
Do you enjoy making up fantasies that never happened in order to prove yourself right?
This. But this is a bait thread your words are wasted here.
I wouldn't leave a cake shop in the responsibility of women and gays, let alone the West.
>Being gay is not a big thing! It is for the people in countries where being a homosexual is illegal and punished by death. Incidentally, the pride parades are a protest against those countries, not really a celebration of western homosexuality.
>I'm going to force American politics on the rest of the world and you're going to like it!
He means 'talking about' in the sense of 'presenting it as a reasonable viewpoint' - plenty of games have talked about fascism.
>moved to /pol/
Yeah, if you stick women into historical situations they would never be in, or portray them as having the same physical strength as men, people will have a problem. I don't think the gay thing has ever mattered to anyone unless they randomly make some person gay who wasn't really implied to be gay. Or unless they show

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Based and redpilled, the only games I even play nowadays are old shit, Slav (Witcher, Darkwood) and Japanese games. Fuck the pozzed Bay Area industry.
I never made that argument. But I might buy games in the top part, and will specifically avoid games in the bottom. If you want to know why, the answer is simple: I am not interested in those concepts. I

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>moving the goalposts >strawman Again, its all fine until its something that triggers /pol/flakes, then its >REEEEEEEEE PROPAGANDA >NOOOOOOOO POLITICAL AGENDA
So now the games have to have good writing, and not just present these issues and characters in an organic way? Why aren't games with shit writing that address any of the other "political" issues not getting just as much shit? Because there are tons of those, too. Oh, right, because /pol/tards aren't endlessly triggered by any of those other political subjects or issues, so they aren't political!
>0 reading comprehension Nice rebuttal, faggot. It sure is good that Yea Forums is a hugbox and you cannot disagree with me without facing severe consequences.
>totalbiscuit=hitler
When the developers explicitly state on the record that they want their game to have in impact on X, Y and Z political issues in real life then yes it is propaganda you faggot.
You are so dense, uranium would be jealous of you. Where have I said anything you mention? I pointed out that the idea of GROUP X GOOD, GROUP Y NEUTRAL is hypocritical, which, by any measure of reason, it is. What you are doing is constructing fantasies over and over an over again, reading things into stuff never said to fuel your victim complex and push your agenda. You are beyond saving, your brain is fried.
has Yea Forums always been a right wing hugbox or did this happen during the last election?
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This must be the biggest strawman I've seen in ages. Yea lets just pretend that basic elements of or for the sake of story telling and world building are the same as hamfisting women or LGBT shit into games because "muh representation". When people complain about politics they dont complain about the parts a game's setting is made of, but the politics that led to including them. People like to forget that there's literally nothing wrong with female characters or faggots when done properly. What people complain about a

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>dullard There you go again with that fag talk we talked about.
>They just want this specific thing that triggers them to go away forever Sounds like a fucking snowflake to me
name one reason why games have to be political, especially modern day politics and how it makes the game good?
Ah, shit I missed that you're a faggot too. I thought you were talking about LGBT in general, not just the Pride bullshit. We agree then. Pride doesn't go to Saudi/China/Congo/whatever because Pride knows it would be hard. Pride wants an easy life in the West protesting minimal bullshit, not making -actually oppressed- gay's life better.
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I feel like there is an extreme disconnect nowadays between game creators and game consumers (I deliberately avoid "gamer" here), and I often wonder why and how is it possible that is has come to this. But can it really be a disconnect if despite all this, companies who infuse their games with leftist ideas still remain to be successful? Could it be that the majority of the game consumers actually agree with those ideas, and only a vocal minority like Yea Forums is crying about "political" stuff?
>I was only pretending to be retarded! You got outted. Stay in your containment board next time.
the difference between top and bottom is that the top can be argued to be politically neutral since every single thing on the top has political consensus and continuity.
Right, all those posts are exactly what I said. Assertions with no evidence. One is good, the other is bad, but no reason why. Except when the reason is "well I just don't like women or LGBT issues" but then those are beyond help, aren't they? So, once again, I am talking about the people who assert that the problem is NOT that they dislike women or gays but that it's a matter of how the topic is handled. MGS is incredibly hamfisted, to speak with one of the guys you quoted, and yet it doesn't draw any ire from Yea Forums, contrary to some others which

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Based and redpilled, the only games I even play nowadays are old shit, Slav (Witcher, Darkwood) and Japanese games. Fuck the pozzed Bay Area industry.
I never made that argument. But I might buy games in the top part, and will specifically avoid games in the bottom. If you want to know why, the answer is simple: I am

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That is, unfortunately, the solemn truth. Democracy is great for mantaining the status quo, but garbage for reform of any kind (always takes >30 years). Despotism is quick and efficent, but unstable.
can you point me to change being forced from them crying? they just get dismissed now, this isnt the 90s. sjws dominate socially and are at the forefront of all censorship and cultural outrages
How does complaining about women representation in video games stop muslims and chinks from being muslims and chinks
I'd like to but the mods moved us here
Only thing Yea Forums always was, was contrarian, because it is, anonymous, anarchic, so people say what they otherwise wouldn´t. The political ideas that get attracted and spread here are contrary to the mainstream opinion just like everything else.
>gays, women, and black people existing is an agenda
NV unashamedly has an objectivist agenda. And it's not the only Obsidian game to do so.
>Deus Ex still says "hey maybe a cabal of ultra-rich people calling the shots for everyone is a bad way to do things and true democracy is better" Don't project your impressions of the plot as the things the game said or implied as the only good outcomes of the presented situation. What fucking "true democracy" if the endings have an absolute AI ruler or you literally letting the Illuminati stay in charge? Have you even played the game?
>So now the games have to have good writing, and not just present these issues and characters in an organic way? Yes, that's what most people in this thread have been mentioned as why the first group of politics is better than the latter. >Why aren't games with shit writing that address any of the other "political" issues not getting just as much shit? They have been for years you fucking dolt, COD was always criticized for it's representation of war as being overly simplistic. Meanwhile most people on Yea Forums praised Spec Ops: The Line when that came out. Again name

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Based and redpilled, the only games I even play nowadays are old shit, Slav (Witcher, Darkwood) and Japanese games. Fuck the pozzed Bay Area industry.
I never made that argument. But I might buy games in the top part, and will specifically avoid games in the bottom. If you want to know why, the answer is

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dilate and kill yourself faggot
please dont put women in the same category of sodomite degenerates.
Daily reminder that game design and marketing are done by entirely separate teams. A marketing team hired by the publisher highlighting a gay or black character doesn't mean the game itself is propaganda.
>Instituted socialist health care. First proposed by Ronald Reagan and then watered down by Obama do appease the Republicans of his day who had moved significantly further right still.
Yes, games presenting women and gays as not inferior is good, because not being a close-minded bigot that pisses itself in fear of non-whites and fags is good. If this triggers you, you're probably a /pol/flake and should proceed to hang yourself.
First is worldbuilding. Second is politics aimed to divide people from the real world. There you go.
Not Pol, true gamers in general
It's what you claimed, isn't it? Yea Forums didn't exist before you got here. Are you moot?
You are willfully missing the point. Again. It's blatant double standards when one group is automatically portrayed as good while another at best neutral. I know logic has no bearing on people like you but try to wrap your head around it, even a little.
This must be the biggest strawman I've seen in ages. Yea lets just pretend that basic elements of or for the sake of story telling and world building are the same as hamfisting women or LGBT shit into games because "muh representation". When people complain about politics they dont complain about the parts a game's setting is made of, but the politics that led to including them. People like to forget that there's literally nothing wrong with female characters or faggots when done properly. What people complain about are people like @SleepyHussy, who can only make dishonest statements.
yes, hamfisted politics is the same as politcal themes in games. Fucking retard
No I didn't consider going back to your moms house, since s

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This, Have all the politics you want but I'm not going to waste money on blatant propaganda.
What people really mean is gay shit. They don't like gay shit in their video games
>I voted for Obama twice. I still loathe the left wing as it is today. No surprise there, Obama was a centre-right Republican on the wrong side of the aisle.
Also incidentally just because an opinion is long-held by Yea Forums that doesn't mean it's reasonable or well thought-out. Probably the opposite, I'd say. I pointed out exactly why it was unreasonable without resorting to calling anyone /pol/ and then you say I did the opposite. Curious.
So women and gays should be included in a list of things video games often portray as tools of the enemy?
Because they literally weren't equal in any historical context and it should be shown as such instead of white washed. And also because it doesn't even make sense half the time. It's not like they make most straight characters go on and on about being straight. Here's how you make a good gay character, show them doing the same shit as everyone else instead of focusing on the gay shit.
That's literally feminisms strategy. They want to "portray women" as all the things women aren't and they think by subtly changing the public consciousness, women will start to be the things they aren't. They think the only reason things are certain ways is because people think of them that way. It is a philosophy of solipsism, that completely turns away from objective and pragmatic truth.
>basic human rights applying to everyone is "domestic politics" Shit, sounds like every game should address this if think not being a retarded bigot cowering in fear of non-whites and female (males) every waking moment is just "domestic politics"
Yeah yeah, I buy it, you were here since it was known as 3chan. Now, dilate and go back to your discord.
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Top: Actual issues Bottom: First world problems
they even see nursery rhymes as racis

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Based and redpilled, the only games I even play nowadays are old shit, Slav (Witcher, Darkwood) and Japanese games. Fuck the pozzed Bay Area industry.
I never made that argument. But I might buy games in the top part, and will specifically avoid games in the bottom. If you want to know why, the answer

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ill leave that to u, transnigger. U already have practice

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Based and redpilled, the only games I even play nowadays are old shit, Slav (Witcher, Darkwood) and Japanese games. Fuck the pozzed Bay Area industry.
I never made that argument. But I might buy games in the top part, and will specifically avoid games in the bottom

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You're missing out.
>SJW cuckazoids start with the "what i don't like shouldn't be allowed" shit >get punched back >now whine There's nothing to defend. Suck it.
I AM a faggot, I even stated it in my first post you damn ESLnigger. But I wouldn't support a group that normalizes perversion and deviancy. Then do it over there where it's illegal instead. Oh wait, you'd get shot. Good job, Pride! You really outdid yourself this time!
He means 'talking about' in the sense of 'presenting it as a reasonable viewpoint' - plenty of games have talked about fascism.
What are the IRL applications/implications of Xenoblade Chronicles X, a game about a fictional race destroying the earth, and humanity embarking on a seed ship to start life on a new planet, all the while being hunted by the aliens mentioned earlier? Despite the fact that preserving humanity and its culture is a political act, there are no implicit or applicable relation IRL. It's a fantasy game, designed to allow you to escape reality. Feel free to prove me wrong, and tell me how that plot is applicable in the modern day, in a very real and tangible way.
>Not political Stuff not actually pertaining to our current political climate and its issues. >Political Stuff far too closely pertaining to our current political climate and its issues. Hell, that was easy.
>Which is a fair question. It's a rather stupid question, given the fact that the answer is literally always the same when discussing vague concepts, rather than specific games.
I never made that argument. But I might buy games in the top part, and will specifically avoid games in the bottom. If you want to know why, the answer is simple: I am not interested in those concepts. I play games to escape the cloying mundanity of the shit that gets shoved down my throat in all other mediums, not to get more of it.
>built a story based on western memes about ussr >"why ruskies no like" i wonder
>Things I like automa

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Based and redpilled, the only games I even play nowadays are old shit, Slav (Witcher, Darkwood) and Japanese games. Fuck the pozzed Bay Area industry.
I never made that argument. But I might buy games in the top part, and will specifically avoid games in the bottom.s

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Right, all those posts are exactly what I said. Assertions with no evidence. One is good, the other is bad, but no reason why. Except when the reason is "well I just don't like women or LGBT issues" but then those are beyond help, aren't they? So, once again, I am talking about the people who assert that the problem is NOT that they dislike women or gays but that it's a matter of how the topic is handled. MGS is incredibly hamfisted, to speak with one of the guys you quoted, and yet it doesn't draw any ire from Yea Forums, contrary to some others which are not at all hamfisted but just happen to touch upon a verboten subject.
And why the fuck is this shitty thread in /pol/?
stop pulling shit out of your ass you disingenuous tranny faggot, 48% yourself already.
Noone likes some sanctimonious American writer yammering on about their domestic politics.
It's what you claimed, isn't it? Yea Forums didn't exist before you got here. Are you moot?
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Are you retarded? Should we just pretend that migration is a fun and fast easy thing or something? Not to mention those who have history and family in those lands wouldn't just agree to go to another fucking continent just for the lolz of it, and I doubt Africa being resource rich will convince anyone to moving there.
being free speech doesn't prevent you from being a hugbox. It depends on the people in said box.
Don't play dumb and stop with the strawman. Then again, I can never tell if it's willfully ignorance or genuine stupidity. I don't have a problem with gays or blacks or whatever. I do have a problem with the digital equivalent of a pride parade taking center stage in vidya. I don't care, so fuck of with your agenda. If anything it makes me want to dislike those groups.
I think what people dislike is how everything revolves around AMERICAN politics.
first of all >twitter screenshot the guys who make this type of threads should get shoot, and mods are trannies/cüc

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>I'm talking to a person asking why I spend money on some subjects, but not on others. Which is a fair question. >The answer, as always, is that I spend my money on shit I'm interested in, and withhold it from shit I'm not interested in. And that is not a real answer. In fact, it's a given. People buy things they want? No shit.
>I never made that argument. Then you're not even talking about the thread's topic >But I might buy games in the top part, and will specifically avoid games in the bottom. If you want to know why, the answer is simple: I am not interested in those concepts. That is not a "why" it's essentially just a rephrasing of the first part Fuck, why are you such an incredible dullard
That's optimistic, but I do hope most people will just get bored with the internet eventually. Would really do everyone a favor to get on it less and talk to people face to face.
However you spin it, sjw whinging is always annoying. Push your faggoty agenda elsewhere.
>asscancer man is still spreading butthurt based
But no game is stressing the point, the characters being a woman, gay or trans is never a huge part of the game, they're always just there.
>screams /pol/ at reasonable and well thought out opinions long held by Yea Forums >has /pol/ meme flag set and the mask falls off
>Calm down reddit, your spittle soaked schizoid word salad is unintelligible. irony. nice alliteration tho dude ur real cool
That's what first wave feminism is (was) for. Third wave is about having 50/50 gender ratio as CEOs and shit.
All I need to know about fascism in videogames is whether I can shoot fascists or not
A hugbox in general has nothing to do with censorship but the community. Just look at all the "destroy libtards" threads or just this one. That is indeed a hugbox. What you mean is a community with people in charge who regulate statements.
>empty pandering >made up controversies >gaslighting >but muh /pol/boogeyman! Oh, the irony >No one

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not that person you're replying to but are you aware of how much of a stereotype you're coming off as right now with all these needlessly long insults when a simple 'fuck you' would have sufficed?
Have you tried not being a bigot
Kek, the flags say it all. Not just the choice, but the fact that the faggots that scream /pol/ at everything they don't like are culture warriors from /pol/.
This isn't discord, if you didn't notice.
Company of Heroes 2 did, then Russians review bombed it
I AM a faggot, I even stated it in my first post you damn ESLnigger. But I wouldn't support a group that normalizes perversion and deviancy. Then do it over there where it's illegal instead. Oh wait, you'd get shot. Good job, Pride! You really outdid yourself this time!
>The companies are literally pointing out how they have more women/poc characters. This is not propaganda, and if there's an agenda being pushed, its >Don't be a shithead /pol/tard
that's what modern politics is though
Where did it do that? By depicting the capitalist democrats as incompetent bumbling idiots, and the literal fascist bigots as a well oiled machine, and giving you the choice between them or neither?
>screams /pol/ at reasonable and well thought out opinions long held by Yea Forums >has /pol/ meme flag set and the mask falls off
>Everything I don't like is political >Things that are inherently political are not political because I agree with them
The problem is that writers who push women and gays are usually shit fucking writers who wouldn't know subtlety if it hit them over the head, they see other writers using political themes and go "OH GUESS POLITICAL THEMES ARE OKAY IN VIDEOGAMES TIME TO PUSH MY WORLDVIEW ONTO EVERYONE ELSE" and in missing the techniques normal writers use, their work sticks out like a sore thumb. When good writers push women and gays, no one even notices.
Name a game people actually played, you fuck. Walking simulator shit doesn't count.

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Based and redpilled, the only games I even play nowadays are old shit, Slav (Witcher, Darkwood) and Japanese games. Fuck the pozzed Bay Area industry.
I never made that argument. But I might buy games in the top part, and will specifically avoid games in the bottom........

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cant hear u over your collection of gay porn, faggot

>built a story based on western memes about ussr >"why ruskies no like" i wonder
join us in the real world sometime, faggot
Generally the 'bad' part happens after the colonialist leave (see Africa) - while they're there it's all good, the moment they decide to fuck off they leave behind a burned wasteland.
He means 'talking about' in the sense of 'presenting it as a reasonable viewpoint' - plenty of games have talked about fascism.
Capitalism was shit, and only the colonists benefited massively, while the colonies were later fucked, both because of their incompetents and because their resources were assfucked
>Ask question >get called a lefty Why don't you just answer the question? otherwise just fuck off.
You can get rid of places like this but most people will still think what we do.
This must be the biggest strawman I've seen in ages. Yea lets just pretend that basic elements of or for the sake of story telling and world building are the same as hamfisting women or LGBT shit into games because "muh representation". When people complain about politics they dont complain about the parts a game's setting is made of, but the politics that led to including them. People like to forget that there's literally nothing wrong with female characters or faggots when done properly. What people complain about are people like @SleepyHussy, who can only make dishonest statements.
everything is political not everything has an agenda old videogames don't have an agenda
Yes, great example of the characters just being incidentally gay in a game that is primarily a faux ghost story about unravelling the mystery of an empty house in a detailed period-accurate setting with a hidden subplot told through environmental cues.
He would be regarded as one today in america sure, but not when he ran
no game has ever had the balls to talk about fascism and I mean as an ideology not just some shooter
>might genuinely believe in the shit the

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Based and redpilled, the only games I even play nowadays are old shit, Slav (Witcher, Darkwood) and Japanese games. Fuck the pozzed Bay Area industry.
I never made that argument. But I might buy games in the top part, and will specifically avoid games in the bottom. If you want to know why, the answer

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