I know this is not usual a /g/ post, but how has he effected stuff relevant to this board? >Has his immigration policies affected tech companies from getting new programmers? >Are you happy with him challenging Huawei? >What do you think his dislike of intelligence agencies means for surveillance and security?
did you read the op? it is related to his significant changes to the landscape of surveillance and intelligence agencies and his impact on American tech companies.
Justin Jackson
For better or for worse, he's a relic of the days of punchclocks and steel lunchboxes.
Kayden White
Do you think he will have a lasting impact on technology in the US? He has already been the bait that has drawn Google's bias out and exposed them to the light. If so, is this good or bad?
Dylan Robinson
Is he really cutting them down to size, or is it just a personal feud that could be ended if they do what he says? I'm not convinced he believes in anything on principle alone.
Michael Walker
>his dislike of intelligence agencies he has literally only said bad shit about the FBI, hasn't said/done a single thing about the NSA or CIA or the 5 Eyes apparatus itself either
Isaac Bell
Nice trips. this is what I am looking to find out with my thread. I think the feud is ideological on their part and probably his usual ego trip on his. But I think people have really become distrustin of big tech companies much more now. Probably take a long time to undo that. I don't think he cares, but he is going to keep on trucking and they will likely be right in his path.
James Williams
retarded and serverly demented conservacuck boomer without any understanding of how technology works
He has ruffled some feathers but yeah it is mostly the FBI.
Cameron Hernandez
>without any understanding of how technology works except Twitter obviously
Luke Cruz
Orange man bad because he brought a wave of newfag redditards to this site
Nathan Baker
>Has his immigration policies affected tech companies from getting new programmers? Probably made it more difficult. >Are you happy with him challenging Huawei? You probably already forgot that he never presented evidence, else you wouldn't need me to tell you that this was just bullshit. >What do you think his dislike of intelligence agencies means for surveillance and security? I don't think he dislikes the agencies, he just dislikes them occasionally being still loyal to some US laws and separation of power ideals rather than him personally.
[The laws are IMO too weak in terms of oversight and restrictions and procedures placed on these agencies, but even this much of course bothers Trump.]
Alexander Morris
Hard to say, really. He could cause the more footloose companies that deal with 5G to scatter. Then again, they could stay ad take refuge in the US, hoping to beat Huawei to the punch in a very lucrative market. That is why they call it protectionism. If it does turn out that Chinese industrial espionage is significant and will be effectively curtailed, then he'd have assured US dominance in tech for another few decades. But we don't really know if he's going to push for this, or if it's going to be effective if he does.
Aaron Stewart
>Probably made it more difficult. Is this a good thing
>You probably already forgot that he never presented evidence, else you wouldn't need me to tell you that this was just bullshit. It still impacted Huawei and normies are skeptical of their phones now (I know, I still hear about it).
>I don't think he dislikes the agencies, he just dislikes them occasionally being still loyal to some US laws and separation of power ideals rather than him personally. I agree, although their weird allegiance to Clinton and their soft approach to her email scandal was concerning.
Joshua Harris
>concerning it was fucking damaging, even normies couldn't fucking believe they didn't pursue it further
Wyatt Cook
>Is this a good thing If you're an American programmer, yes. If you're an American, no. It doesn't make an economy stronger if it pays less competent people the same salary to do the same job.
Benjamin Harris
Trump is a FTM freemartin tranny. Freemason Actor.
Juan Turner
Interesting take user, I assumed he went after Huawei out of some strange impulse to get the 5G debate going, like when he said climate change was a chink conspiracy. But, maybe both are shrewd ways to keep America in the lead.
>less competent Are American programmers really bad or something? I see plenty of pajeet hate here for what has been done to Windows 10. Surely protectionism means quality will rise?
Robert Brown
an actual hand to hand fight? Shinzo-san all the way.
Isaac Wright
Captain USA or course
Nicholas Cook
I'm inclined to reserve judgment on most things, but I'm 100% sure the Huawei thing was protectionism, no different than his tariff policy, but dressed up in a funny costume so that other aspects of Sino-American trade wouldn't be directly involved. Even though the Chinese knew what was up from the very beginning, it makes it difficult for them to come out and say it. Which is not to say that they weren't engaged in spying. It's just not clear they would use 5G technology to do this.
I didn't mean to imply that. Most pajeet-hate is for remote workers. Granted, some visa candidates are just rote memorizers who game the system, but there are some seriously bright people in there.
Ethan Diaz
fair enough, on both counts, I assumed that Silicone Valley was a hotbed of hiring people for muh diversity and not for skill, but if there are genuinely decent applicants that might psoe a problem.
Tyler White
>Is this a good thing Depends on who you are. I personally don't believe the USA is training enough good programmers. It is allowing a lot of trash tier institutions to issue diplomas and offer their own "certifications" which inflates numbers; but that's not sufficient at all.
I think the effects of this will be mixed. Some companies will actually try to train some people domestically, but there will probably also be just a lot of offices that get enlarged or created abroads. Software development isn't that hard to move, and even people that can choose probably won't mind relocating to the Netherlands more than to the USA.
> It still impacted Huawei and normies are skeptical of their phones now (I know, I still hear about it). Yes, and consumers will probably get less for their money, infrastructure deployment might suffer Cisco's rip-off pricing, and so on. It also non-trivially hurt the US reputation. Not a good deal overall, I imagine.
> I agree, although their weird allegiance to Clinton and their soft approach to her email scandal was concerning. I haven't followed that one in detail. But I wouldn't expect much to be just right. The reaction to Assange and Snowden wasn't that the USA fixed the actual issues and replaced people who tolerated them. It just went after the whistleblowers calling them the actual problem. Not a good sign.
it is literally tech relevant question if you can read the op. considering all the thoughtful discussion about surveillance and the state of Silicone Valley in this thread I would say this is going down quite well.
>Some companies will actually try to train some people domestically This is the core hope of all protectionism, that is becomes prohibitively expensive to import or outsource and, as such, they train domestically. Google isn't going to stop hiring engineers after all.
>Assange This is my biggest critcism of Trump, the way he snubbed Assange and said he never heard of the guy. I am British and the way he has been treated afte his seizure at the embassey has been a national embarrasment.
Cooper Martinez
> Google isn't going to stop hiring engineers after all I'm guessing they are among the entities that will probably just shift more to the other offices.
It was probably comfortable to get talented staff most concentrated in the main locations, but they can just as well make secondary locations more important now that it's too bothersome to do this in more instances.
Maybe you'll even only see smaller companies train significantly more local staff. Software/hardware design is fairly easy to move and Europe, Japan [and increasingly China] aren't actually THAT troublesome to work in and with either.
Other countries also are attractive to highly skilled people who can pick better employers, if it's possible to move people there without nearly impossible-to-deal-with delays or refusals they'll try to do that instead.
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OP here, absolute faggot jannissaries shifted the thread here and banned me from /g/. Do modds only ever listen to the fucking complainers? It's clearly a tech related fucking thread. gay ass shit.
Nicholas Howard
why expect any better from people who are obligated to use discord?