PHILOSOPHY GENERAL THREAD

PHILOSOPHY GENERAL THREAD

Ask a philosopher anything.

Talk amongst yourselves.

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How do you prove that someone else's consciousness exists and isn't only a reflection of your own?

Why are you gay?

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tits or ass

Because unless you can unseparate them, for all intents and purposes theyre different.

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I don't think I can prove it but I think that consciousness is really just a set of properties and abilities that could be explicated by physical sciences. If that's the case, the fact that we have relatively similar physiology would be evidence that you're likely also conscious.
I really don't know.
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Is the Devil a man made construct?

yes

No other species was was around to make him up

In what sense are you a philospher?

are traps gay?

Finished graduate school.

yes

How does it feel to have wasted that much time and money?

He didn't even say which discipline, butthurt wagie

I don't consider it a waste of time. As far as money, I do think I'd be better off having done something else, even just never going to college. On the other hand, it's hard to say. I wouldn't be the same person I am now and I've also never really cared much about money.

There are doors that grad school opened for me but I still could have done it going into a more lucrative field.
It was for philosophy, though lol

>I wouldn't be the same person I am now
An alternative version of you who did something else would be able to make the same statement.

The thing about philosophy is that it does not actually require specialized knowledge.

>An alternative version of you who did something else would be able to make the same statement.
I know that but given that I can't see the future or into alternative timelines, it's hard for me to make a judgment about if I would have been better off. I generally like my life and I'm glad that I studied philosophy, though I can acknowledge the financial side of the equation.

>The thing about philosophy is that it does not actually require specialized knowledge
That's arguable but I don't really care about that.

Different philosopher here (PhD in Phil and JD on top);

You can't really prove it, but it's suggestive that since your own consciousness seems to supervene on activity in your brain, and everyone else who seems conscious has roughly similar brains, it's at least somewhat reasonable to think that what works for you works for them as well.

>That's arguable
To give an example, a layperson attempting to argue with an expert scientist in their field of study will not have the knowledge needed to meaningfully engage. On the other hand, anyone who understands logic can debate philosophy.

thats what the other guy said

Yeah, I pretty much agree with you but it's still arguable. Logic is a branch of philosophy so, that would be required specialized knowledge. I understand that some people like to have turf wars and claim logic for mathematics or something, if that's you, go ahead and claim it since, again, I don't really care about whether or not philosophy requires specialized knowledge.

Another point on which it's arguable is that history of philosophy is also considered philosophy. This clearly requires specialized knowledge. Again, someone could start turf war and claim that history of philosophy is REALLY a matter of specialized knowledge in history. Still, I fail to see what's at stake here.

He was right too.

>Ask a philosopher anything.

What's your specialty?

metaethics and pragmatism

Bro I have a philosophy test tomorrow and I need to study about the basic characteristics of the rennassaince. Modern philosophy, Rene descartes and the Cartesian method,Nietzche philosophy and the "mole philosopher". Any help op?

Hellow, I'm just a dude that really loves philosophy, about that guy that says that for philosophy isn't required specialized knowledge, I think I have an observation; for very long time, I'd say from de beginning of civilization humankind have strived for knowledge, because it was knowledge that kept us alive in the harsh world amongst us, as long as the etymological definition of philosophy, we, as species, have been philosophers since the daun of humankind as a sapient species, so, is in our nature to be philosophers, the only thing we do for philosophy is refining it by specializing in it; what I try to say is that we, as humans, don't need specialization in philosophy, but for philosophy's sake, we study on it, by specialicing on it. P.D. I'm sorry if I missed something wile writing, english isn't my first language

Why i always get dubs on non steam begging threads?

If I did something horrible in my past, like truly horrible, and I deeply regret it, should I forgive myself? I can't move on. I feel like I'm a different person now, but there's a shadow that looms over me.

God fuckin dammit

sometimes it be like it is but it isnt

I'm not Op, I'm the dude that loves philosophy, but I think that you should really forgive yourself, bc, I think, it has been a long time since you committed that horrible act, so you should think of yourself as another man,

Because you're a faggot and even if you got it on a steam thread you still wouldn't get a steam code. Are you that fucking retarded?

Why would all of that be on one test? Regardless, the resources your professor provided should be all you need. Do you have any specific questions?
Talk to a professional and they can help. I've struggled with the same thing. You need to forgive yourself but it can be a very long process. I'm talking years. An early step is to make sure you're not still doing whatever it is that makes you feel guilty. It's important to be totally honest with yourself and try not to be ashamed, as hard as it can be, of your darker impulses. Everyone has them. By recognizing them, you'll be better able to control yourself.

How do you contemplate the idea that a brain is contemplating how it functions while also contemplating and deciding which moral philosophy is for it?

Yeah, what do you think about Nietzsche and his teachings?
Yes i am

>contemplating and deciding which moral philosophy is for it
What do you mean?

I think he's interesting. As far as I understand his views on morality, I think I agree with him. However, I think it's an empirical question as to whether or not egalitarianism could produce the best kinds of people and I'm not sure if I agree with him that it can't.

do you think humans get to decide what they believe?

like when it comes to the metaphysical, a supreme being, life after death, etc., i think it would be a big comfort in life to have a firm belief in eternal life and a loving god. i was raised to believe it. maybe i'd be a happier person if i did. but i don't. it doesn't feel like a decision to me - i simply ask myself what i feel to be true, and whatever answer i get is what i believe, right? i don't mean to say i eschew outside sources, because i've familiarized myself with different religions and philosophies, but even after all i've read and discussed, i feel like my beliefs are still beyond my control. i can access them and tell you what i believe, but i can't alter them through conscious decisions. is that just me? is it like that for everyone?

when people talk about "having faith," are they talking about the ability to choose a belief? do they mean deciding to act as if they believe something is true, when in their true heart or hearts they don't honestly believe it?

Do you wish you had all that money back that you spent on your useless degree?

not opie. simply put. free will doesn't exist.

>do you think humans get to decide what they believe?
Not really but it depends on what we mean by "decision" and "choice." Ultimately, there is no ghost that sits outside causal chains and gets to freely enter in and out. On the other hand, when we take ourselves to make a decision, we usually don't assume anything that has such metaphysical baggage. We usually just mean something like, different voices, ideas, etc. were popping into my head and correcting each other before I acted or settled on one or more of them, as opposed to just acting as a matter of reflex.

Who wouldn't want free money?

OP here. I don't think it really matters in this case. user was asking me if I thought I'd better off had I done something else. All we need is imaginative ability in a case like that, not metaphysical possibility.

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he's probably referring to the idea that we can analyze what we thought about something, and then we can analyze the thinking we did about that thing, and so on and so on...

what is this type of contemplative thinking about thinking called?

Oooh what dimensions of metaethics? I wrote my diss on the nature of intrinsic value.

Dude, there are some things you can never get over; all you can do is learn to live with them.

Wow you're retarded.

sweet digits. i was actually addressing the first comment he made... about how maybe you would've/could've done something different. If you went through it again, you would make the same decision again, if you had knowledge that you had not had when prior to make that decision, then you would've been in a different state of existence... it's a moot question. "an alternative version of you" is a fruitless endeavor to entertain.

Why was Derrida such a ninny?

>Cartesian method

All about reason rather than empiricism. Empiricism can trick the mind, unless you can reason your way into relative certainty about your perceptions.

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You could call that a lot of things, especially depending on the content. In general, you could call it reflexive, I suppose.
Interested in how pragmatism and metaethics can intersect (that usually means debates about particularism and about non-cognitivism), though I also was/am interested in the practical consequences of metaethical relativism.
>intrinsic value
What was the gist of your dissertation?

Also curious, are you planning on leaving or staying in academia?

Hey my GF just finished her PHD and is looking for jobs. What's your guy's take on the situation?

>What's your guy's take on the situation?
Horrendous. Depending on many factors she could still get a job, though. If she ends up leaving academia for a different job, don't forget to remind her that there's more to life than success in academic philosophy. Most grad students forget that.

Post grad for Logic.
Any of you who believe yourself to be reasonable and logical are fooling yourselves without proper education on the foundations of truth and argumentation.
You would give a diagnosing doctor authority in the realm of his studies. Not understanding that this also transfers to the realm of thought, reason, and debate is equal is because you are not reasonable.
Just because we sound pretensions most the time doesn't mean we aren't clearly engaging in a higher form of debate than you have the tools for. It's why so many people are so easily suggestable and most people emote over argue.
Because you can't do it well.

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There are times when I get frustrated like you seem to be but I've found that people really do understand things if you can break it down into something digestible. We're used to talking to peers which can make it irritating to talk to "normals" but that's most people and it isn't their job to understand us. We have to make ourselves understood. You also might find yourself surprised from time to time if you give people the chance.

"proper education" and a university degree can be mutually exclusive.

"Logical reasoning is not limited to the study of philosophy as philosophy is the origin of all studies.*" Learn to be poignant, jesus christ.

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yes, but to what end? And to where when one was while each and then to whom for what?

I've got one: Why the hell are you on this board?

Because I'm bored and I've come here off and on for like 10+ years

This doesn't say anything about there being different consciousnesses. Only defines what a conscious is

Fair point

and from that definition, it's not much of a stretch to see why another person's consciousness wouldn't be a "reflection of my own."

what's ur stance on subjectivity of reality, vs an objective one. and the redundant argument that every "objective interpretation" is being made by a subjective interpretation of reality?

also, is solipsism a cop out for avoiding the inquiry of whether or not we really exist?

good talk.

Any favorite philosopher's?

opie went to bed. want to send each other dick pics in the mean time?

no

shame on you.

The question is... why are you?

Studying philosophy now, and I have three questions:
1: How did you get a job?
2: what are typical jobs overlooked by those who've studied philosophy?
3: at what point can you call yourself a philosopher? Published article?

I would really like an answer to the first two, I'm worried about employability