Two dictators meeting each other

And youre looking for people who actually give a shit about your problems

>N. Korea & S. Korea announced this morning they will be working towards formally ending the Korean War by December & have begun emoving the thousands of mines lining the 2 nations border as they have begun allowing family members from the North visit their relatives in the South for the first time in 45 years
>Iran announced today that they want to have formal face to face meetings with Trump Admin officials to close their nuclear program in return for lifting sanctions & ending all hostilities.
>China announced this afternoon that they are willing to meet the US's trade requirements in return for tariffs to be lifted
>Trump has 71% approval in handling the economy, 70% approval in foreign policy, 61% approval in domestic policy

Of course OP's losing his shit & spamming endless threads crying about Trump. The last remaining left wingers are absolutely losing their shit.

people like this are literally just machines

Here’s a link to the definition of dictator:

dictionary.com/browse/dictator

Neither fits the definition faggot. Trump doesn’t wield any more or less power than any other president and Kim has a inherited his position.

Words still have meaning outside of clown world. Think before you use words that are bigger than your little brain can comprehend.

wow fag, type much?

Because I use a instead of an? You got me!!!

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You mad? You know he’s gonna win again, right?

libs btfoed

If this niggas actions ends the Korean War he’ll go down in history books. Imagine the chimpout

Like kamala’s wrecked puss lol

playing the two party system game where you think one is right and the other isn't when in reality that are both shit, you're a fucking idiot

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It’s all bullshit till something actually happens. All this administration does is talk, like a 5 year old.

One is obviously worse than the other. If you ignore that you’re a fucking idiot

Yeah they just talk about a thriving economy and historic jobs number. Have you ever had a job or people that rely on you?

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He is not to be trusted.

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Why?

Cause he lies about everything. Hes only looking out for the elite. Worst president ever.

nice trips but.
>Cause he lies about everything. Hes only looking out for the elite. EVERY president ever.
(You think Clinton wouldn't do the exact same thing? Only difference is, she is a better liar)

Who are you referring to?

I thought the point of that image was that Kim was lying, since he has the lying fingers.

You have been visited by Retardface Fuckhead the Shit-Eater of mediocre threads.

This thread is about to die. OP, hopefully you got what you desired out of it and that it wasn't a total loss.

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kek, what a bad bait

sage

so, peacefully ending wars, making the world peaceful, something that the left wabted for years, is now not important? Your brainwash is showing. Doublethink much?

How many US troops were KIA in Korea last year? How many Yemeni civilians has Trump allowed the Saudi mafia to slaughter, same time frame?

Left never wanted peace. They just act that way until there’s a chance of war. Then they become the biggest hawks in dc

Yemen is an issue he inherited from Obama you dumb fuck. Obama have Iran $100 billion knowing full well that they’d plow that cash into Yemen to defend the Shia minority from the ethnic tensions built up because of the fucking Arab Spring civil war that Obama fucking encouraged Saudi Arabia to bankroll! Saudi are doing what Saudi does, whatever the fuck they want. Trump can’t do much to stop them in Yemen, he hit them out of Syria because the Obama admin already had YS forced in country so he had some bargaining power to force the Saudi’s to tone it down in Syria, but Yemen has no direct US forces involved, so there’s not much he can do other than tell Saudi that it’s not appropriate.
Regarding North Korea, that’s another mess Obama let get worse: a soft touch, North Korea shelled a South Korean town in 2010, with no repercussions. The NK negotiations team played Obama and hit billions in aid on top of the freedom to develop nukes, which they did to upgrade from fissile bomb tech to the fucking H-bomb. Any troops killed last year are a direct result of Obama (and Bill Clinton before him), getting played and commuting to paying NK billions in aid dollars.
Trump is trying a different tack, and so far so good. They invited him to NK, a sign that they’re ready for peace talks. Peace with NK is much better than war with NK, not sure if you agree?

Yea.... Because he's done what exactly? Done exactly what he's said he was going to do during his campaign? I don't like him, but he's better than our other options

Just imagine if Trump ends up being responsible for peace with North Korea and Iran, along with favourable trade agreements with China, South Korea, Japan and the EU? Just imagine gong down in history as the US president who actually brought world peace and prosperity to America?!
The fucking media will lull themselves trying to spin that into a negative.

>just imagine
and that's all you and him are going to be able to do.

Trump has spent his entire administration getting cock-blocked by liberal federal judges with personal agendas, but yea he's a dictator

It’s amazing how angry that makes you

who said i was angry? i'm simply reminding you that you are imagining.

If only this was imagined:

if only, but that doesn't matter because im talking about your vast imagination.

Well no we are not. You’re again derailing the subject of the thread with a fantasy about my imagination because you cannot justify the facts stated in the post quoted in my last post.

>derailing the subject of the thread
where was exploring your imagination the subject of the thread?

When you brought it up. You’re very bad at this.

They would tell you the world is more dangerous. And dumb fucks from clown world will buy. What did Orwell call it? Reverse speak? Wrong speak? I forget

so if bring up that all you're going to be able to do is imagine trump doing stuff, it is the subject of the thread while also at the same time derailing the subject of the thread?

The money is there. Why do we have to work for it.

Nice trips, but stop being a leech and climb the ladder. Same tools for the rich exist for you.

Do you have any clue how many rega have been cut? How much easier it is to do business in the USA now? Markets are high, unemployment is low, manufacturing is returning, the middle class is expanding at a rate never seen. What the fuck are you guys complaining about? He hasn’t found a way to get you paid from shitposting from your grandma’s basement?

who is complaining?

Holy shiiiiit Kim is fibbing bois!

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The money is owned buy someone that earned it you leach. You’re a scummy little parasite. Why would I even give my hard earned money to a worthless piece of shit like you? I get nothing in return.

Seems like you’re complaining about the beautiful future that trump is helping us build

Newfag defected. One day you’ll figure out a troll post/sarcasm.
Hope 10th grade treats you better.

You'l be waiting for the rest of your life for all that shit. All Trump does is bullshit people and say everything is going to be the best ever and the most amazing thing (just read his speeches for how many times he does it). He promises and promises and NEVER DELIVERS. I'm not even talking about what he's doing as president - I'm talking about what he's done his entire life.

To begin:

Google Trump Shuttle

Google Trump Casino Atlantic City

Google Trump and the USFL

Literally just do some basic research and get your ass educated

I wish I knew who you were so I could talk you into thinking I'm raising money to help Trump build the Wall. It would be the easiest $200 I ever made.

lol I get a troll. Doesn’t mean I don’t like fucking around. Same as you

He told you he was going to give a massive tax cut to the rich during his campaign? I must have missed that shit.

seems like you're grasping at straws, user. i have yet to complain about him not being able to do exactly what he wants, more of the opposite i relish in the fact that he gets rustled when he gets told the constitution doesn't allow him to do something.

>starts with lol
>summer fag detected

Yes, that’s the sad reality. Front is back, up is down, happy is sad, war is peace, all that shit

LMAO

> Unemployment is low

How many people can pay their bills on time, save enough for a rainy day, and not go bankrupt if they get sick or want to earn a degree?
> Manufacturing is returning, the middle class is expanding at a rate never seen.

Trump could tell you that you could be a millionaire if you let him fuck your girl or your momma and you'd actually believe it

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He’s already delivered fresh meaningful peace talks with NK, Iran, an end to the Syria war, a booming economy, brand new trade talks with China. What the fuck else do you want the man to deliver?

My dad didn't give me multi-millions of dollars after I graduated like Trump's dad did, so I think not, faggot.

Unemployment is low. There’s a job. There no correlation to people fucking up their own expenses and not being able to pay. That can pay more now that they did 6 years ago.

As far as becoming a millionaire. That on you. Not trump

Well he never said he was going to deliver world peace during his campaign either, and what do you know, the guy is in the process of bringing in world peace. What an achievement!

So you agree that he is not a dictator?

I didn’t either. So what are you arguing? I think it’s ambition you argue, not the means

never claimed he was. though would you admit he wants more power than the constitution grants him?

I think it’s astonishing that such a derided president is the one who has a great chance of delivering world peace.

world peace wont happen, at most you would have a change of leadership, which i agree he is helping deliver.

>world peace
Kek, so there is peace in the entire world cause of a photo opt?

> He’s already delivered fresh meaningful peace talks
TALKS being the operative fucking word, not deals or agreements.
> with NK
They fooled Trump into thinking they were going to get rid of the nukes and then kicked it off again. Trump's thirsty self is reduced to kissing Kim's ass to get talks going, but Kim will string him along so he can be a big shot.
> Iran
he junked the agreement they had and is now pleading with Iran to stick to the agreement he said sucked. The Iranians won't do shit for him because they realize he's a retard.
>, an end to the Syria war,
Didn't realize people had stopped killing each other over there. You're probably one of the morons who thought the Vietnam war started in 1965.
> a booming economy,
Where's my fucking cash?
> brand new trade talks with China.
"TALKS"
> What the fuck else do you want the man to deliver?
I expect him to swindle chump change cash and talk young women who work for him into fucking him like he's done for the last 40 years.

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Capitalist dick tastes good I bet

Gotta say Trump has balls; could have been a huge PR disaster if Kim had not showed.

Of course, he will never get the Nobel Peace prize. He has done plenty to deserve one, just averting war with Iran last week alone...
Trump is winning.

>brand new talks with China
Wait you are you giving him credit for attempting to fix a problem him created? What was that awesome new super secret deal with Mexico to avoid tariffs that wasnt just them doing what they already promised?

Lmao Iran just broke the nuclear deal. Your move Trumptard

Iran called him retarded... like mot even joking. A foreign leader called our president retarded

>fly multi-million dollar drone in enemy airspace knowing they have anti-air missiles
>gets shot down
>doesn't retaliate
what a smart guy

>bitter waster wants free cash

You live in a capitalist country, you tell us if capitalist dick tastes good

Why would he retaliate?

that's a good question, a better one would be why would he deserve a nobel peace prize for doing stupid shit?

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So warmonger, if someone throws a rotten tomato at you, you'd retaliate by blasting them with a .45 or a sub-machine gun?

>Kim has a inherited his position.
He's not a monarch, though, is he? No. He's a dictator.

For ending 70 years of hostility with North Korea and 40 years of hostility with Iran. Those two alone seem like a decent set of achievements.
Honestly though, does anyone give the Nobel peace prize credence anymore? Obama got it and went on to start dozens of civil wars while also allowing Iran and NK to run amok. He ruined the peace prize by betraying everything it stands for.

He’d fucking nuke you.
(He’s never thrown a punch in his life, but he’s an expert on retaliation in international conflicts between world powers)

no i guess i should have stated it more clearly
>flying a drown into hostile territory and it getting shot down and you not retaliating isn't peace prize worthy, it's playing a stupid game and winning a stupid prize.

Inherited power makes you a monarch whether you like that terminology or not

Donald Trump will get blacked by Kamala Harris so badly you folks wont believe

reminds me of hitler and mussolini, trump is obviously mussolini

Iran just admitted that they are developing nuclear weapons as we speak. Some of you really lack brain cells.

Obama never retaliated when Iran shot down a drone on his watch. Why do you think Obama didn’t retaliate?

the worst part was that they were right

Exactly!

WHO?

It was her time

iran was less hostile 3 years ago, and north korea isn't any less hostile than ~3 years ago as well. furthermore i would guess that you still give it value as you try to claim that someone deserves it, while obama has it, but ya know.

haven't you ever heard of the three strike rule. trump allowed the SECOND drone to be shot down after oil tankers were attacked by Iran. the biggest pussy we have ever had as a president

oh did obama get a peace prize for not attacking iran?

Obama’s agreement allowed them to develop nuclear technology.

That foreign leader is correct!

what? they had nuclear technology before then. The north Koreans had Iranian scientists helping them

>wasn’t

Cite your source. I don’t believe you.

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energy and medical technology, and not trying to insinuate weapons, right?

I don’t claim anyone deserves it. I just said Obama ruined the entire institution by being a warmongering crook after accepting the Nobel peace prize.
If they choose to give it to Trump, that’s on them. As a mere symbol of a “peacemaker”, I think a symbol like that would be appropriate to give to the man that ends the 70 year Korean War, along with normalising relations with Iran after 40 years.
And lol at Iran being less hostile three years ago. Overtly, maybe. But you would be too if you just dickered $100 billion out of the US, wouldn’t you? Whereas covertly, they spent all that cash intensifying the civil wars in Syria and Yemen by arming and funding the Shia sides in those civil wars. Civil wars started in the first place by Obama, the peace maker.
Recent events don’t seem to be your strong suit, are you into politics in any way whatsoever apart from meme knowledge?

>saltmeme.jpg

What three stroke rule is that? Did you pull that out of your ass or is a three strike rule actually an American rule of engagement? And claiming a drone shot down 6 years ago as the first strike? That is quite a leap.

What did Obama get his peace prize for? For being a nigger president? Or did he do something to deserve receiving a prize he later desecrated?

And Obama turned a blind eye to all of that. NK developer the H-bomb under his watch. And Iran’s development of nuclear technology was endorsed by his agreement.

>cememtmilkshake.wkrpg ACTIVATE

We found the Iranian Sandnigger in the thread.

>>I don’t claim anyone deserves it.
>For ending 70 years of hostility with North Korea and 40 years of hostility with Iran.
makes me wonder if you're truthful to yourself.
>Civil wars started in the first place by Obama, the peace maker.
>Recent events don’t seem to be your strong suit
hmm so you're saying the 2nd wave of the arab spring was all obama's fault?

for reading a poem and saying he wasn't going to be the typical "bomb's away" president.

Yes, because Iran is a backwards country that could never figure out how to translate nuclear technologies from different fields into weaponisable tech. You’re not dealing with goat herders here you dunce, Iran has skilled engineers and scientists just like everyone else. Nuclear tech is nuclear tech, the act of refinement is the easy part, gaining experience dealing with nuclear tech is the hard part. Once you have the latter, refinement becomes a matter of when, not if. You’d understand that if you had any basic physics/engineering education whatsoever.

under his watch they already had nuclear bombs.... are you thinking of the 8-10 presidents before him after the korean war?

>"How many people can pay their bills on time, save enough for a rainy day, and not go bankrupt if they get sick or want to earn a degree?"

I can, $220 a paycheck you fucking troll. But yet, there is Gavin Newsome (Dem),Adultering, lying POS trying to stick his hand in my bank account fucking me over daily.

The subject never stops changing with you does it? No credible counter argument, deflect and change the subject, QUICK!
Go on, let’s see if you’re not completely full of shit, educate me, why wasn’t the 2nd wave of Arab Spring Obama’s daily?

>Obama kinda forgot saying he wasn't going to be the typical "bomb's away" president

>Nuclear tech is nuclear tech
bullshit, while some of it overlaps it isn't the same. figuring out a triggering mechanism is a fair amount different than figuring out controlled doses or how to keep the reaction controlled for energy.

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and reagan....

ooh still salty are we? bbbbut she should have won.......

Grow up or FUCK OFF

lets see, called you out for lying, and your own hypocrisy. you must first ask yourself why the arab spring happened in the first place, but first you are best figuring out which countries were the biggest targets.

North Korea only had fissile nukes (WWII-era nuke tech) until the Obama administration let them run amok, while also giving them billions in aid, all after they told him to go fuck himself. During that period they designed and built hydrogen bombs. The current-gen state of the art in nukes. Not sure if you understand the significance, I’ll try to break it down for you: Fissile nukes are bad, Hydrogen bombs are very very bad. Preventing NK from developing the H-bomb should have been too priority, instead, they embarked upon the quickest upgrade from fissile to H-bomb in nuclear weapons proliferation history.

They're not going to tell you this but things are getting better in Nork. I've been following it for a long time because it's a fascinating look into how any and all dictatorships eventually fall.
No doubt Jong-Un wants to enjoy the money and power, but he is different from his father and his grandfather in many ways.
North Korea will join the world as a democracy after Jong-Un's death.

that is... you are the most naive person ever

>clearly doesn’t understand what he’s talking about

you do know that fissile nukes are still used today as the ignition mechanism for hydrogen bombs right? fissile nukes are the key to all current nuclear bomb technology. You clearly don't know much about nuclear physics

Am I? Do you follow what happens in North Korea?

Have you been for 20+ years? Jong-Un is different enough that things are getting better in North Korea. Neither his father nor his grandfather would have EVER agreed to talks with the United States.

how many people does kim jong un have to assassinate for you to believe he likes to have his power?

How much money did Obama give to Iran again...?

a fat pig sees an equal in a fat pig. only reason why they are talking right now

yep, absolutely right. i know nothing at all about this.

that... that is random and has nothing to do with the breaking of the nuclear treaty

Stop for a second and assume that you are an otherwise decent person put in a position of supreme authority but you are surrounded by wolves who want to keep the status quo while you do eventually wish to improve the lot of your country--what do you do? If you start off too strongly with reform, it won't work. You also have those wolves to contend with and--being in a position of supreme authority over them--it puts you in a unique position to nip that right in the bud.
Give it time. North Korea is already improving under Jong-Un's leadership. He's far more diplomatically minded.

but he isn't an otherwise decent person...

he had his fucking brother assassinated you naive child

How do you know that though? You have only the state news from the west to inform you of North Korea.

WOAH Woah woah, there’s a lot of wishful thinking in that post. When did you call me out for lying? And when was I hypocritical? You’re making a lot of shit up, again.
If you can’t explain how Obama is not responsible for the 2nd wave if Arab Spring, then just say so. You’re the one that brought that concept into the conversation, so come on, do you have an explanation? Ignorance isn’t shameful, it’s an opportunity to learn.
You don’t have to aggressively lash out in the hopes that it’ll save face, you haven’t asserted any credible knowledge of these affairs at all in our conversation other than a bunch of quips that I’ve proved to be mere wishful thinking at best and totally fictitious at worst. .

you do know that we don't really have much "state news" in the west right? its private media corporations for the most part

Another wolf who wanted to keep the status quo.
You don't start out with massive reform. That gets you killed, because even if you are the "supreme" authority, you're still a human being who can still be assassinated.
You should stop pretending like you understand the politics in North Korea. It's very obvious you don't know how to read between the lines.

all approved by the state
next

you're the one saying i know nothing of recent history, yet you can't seem to figure out why arab spring was brought up in the first place relating to do with syria.

so you can justify any assassination, any atrocity against foreigners, any gulag as just keeping wolves at bay. I wish i lived in your world, where everything horrible is somehow justified

what? no that isn't how it works. You sound like a fucking russian or chinese

most of the shit our media talks about our government would rather they didn't talk about.

You should stop pretending like you understand the politics in North Korea.
It is not remotely comparable to the West.

Except that is exactly how it works.
Who's naive now?

no it isn't, you just sound like a paranoid conspiracy theorist. Look at the investigations into leaks at the white house

because atrocities aren't acceptable at all in the west LMAO

Leftist ideology is a fucking disease.

>war crimes and mass imprisonments are perfectly okay
> its just eastern politics
>just politics
LMAO

>the western media is completely unbiased and absolutely not controlled in any capacity

that's what you sound like.

Is it an atrocity if you kill someone who plans to kill you?

>the west has never committed war crimes
>presidents have never committed war crimes

Are you guys done with the misguided moralfaggotry?

well i wouldn't say unbiased, but mostly biased along political affiliations like fox is conservative and msnbc is liberal. Not controlled by the government LMAO

not a single one of his assassinations were people planning to kill him

Seriously, even if I agreed with Trump politically on everything I'd still think he's an embarrassing buffoon. The clothes, the hair, the creepy druncle image... Just LOOK at him!

the most recent war crimes have been widely condemned and the persecutors of the crimes were imprisoned.... we at least hold ourselfs to a high standard...

>not controlled by government

Keep telling yourself that.

youtube.com/watch?v=aGIYU2Xznb4

Totally not scripted. Totally not controlled.

Were you the one who called me naive?

I never said we didn't commit war crimes, they are just not acceptable and will be punished if they occur

>blah blah blah no true scotsman

Nice argument.

please don't cite some conspiracy bullshit for your own conspiracy bullshit

Yes. But you do know that just because you have fissile bombs, developing H-bombs is not an easy process? It’s not a simple skill tree. It’s not a given that once you have fissile bombs, H-bombs are easy. It takes years of experimentation and testing to even begin to be able to produce materials at the required purity levels, let alone the actual design of the bomb and all of its component parts. Yes fissile is needed, but it’s not as easy as you seem to think.
If Obama has cracked down I then as hard as Dubya did, they would never have developed an H-bomb during his term.
For example, Siuth Africa has fissile weapons fit a long time, whereas they never managed to develop a H-bomb.

what? you are going to have to google what that logical fallacy is, because i didn't use it LMAO

And you know that how?

spent the last 10 minutes googling that shit did you? what a fucking retard. go back to learning before you try to argue something you don't know shit about

because they kill dissenters before they even get to that stage lmao

See, when you started going off on a tangent about how the WEST is so much more morally superior and totally gets held accountable for war crimes (they don't lmao but whatever you gotta tell yourself)

Trump supporters are all like Salacious Crumb - or they would be if Jabba was a failed businessman

LMAO everybody assassinated were political opponents, including his own brother
All of whom very well could have been planning his assassination.
Basically what you're doing is acting like a morally superior faggot because he had a bunch of people killed who wanted to kill him and then saying "NUH UH THEY WEREN'T GOING TO KILL HIM" even though they probably totally were planning to overthrow him.

@_@

developing h-bombs is way way easier than developing how to enrich uranium to weapons grade, or how to develop a fissile bomb that uses a hollowed core with uranium/plutonium around a deuterium or tritium core

it is far far superior morally relative to north korea and its not even close

his own brother was not a political opponent, in fact he may have been a turncoat working with the CIA. The brother was actually a good person

No, it's really not. You're delusional as all fuck. The Norks kill each other. Americans kill everybody else (and each other)
Take your moralfaggotry (as undeserved as it is) and shove it squarely into your anal cavity.

>He was working for us!
>So he's good!
American naivety.

Oooh post the other one

wait... americans don't kill everybody else, in fact often times they are killing the worst and most atrocious enemies around the world like isis, sadam hussein while protecting people like the kurds from the turks

well he wasn't assassinating people, forcing women to be sex slaves, turning foreigners into coma patients that die days after being released, and mass murdering own citizens ....

Americans have a long history of engaging in war on flimsy pretexts and destabilizing the economies of other nations to plant a puppet leader who sends all of that nation's resources off to the United States for a fraction of the cost.

You really should drop the moral superiority act. America is filthy.

>Yep, $100 billion is totally random and irrelevant in this conversation that has touched upon Iran’s nuclear weapons development efforts. Iran promised not to develop them. And Obama trusted their word. And nuclear weapons experts don’t like money anyway, so that’s cool. That $100 billion is totally random.
Good logic there, Joey!

You don't actually know that either though. You heard that from a source that you trust that can and does easily misinform you to manipulate your feelings and opinions.

I'm not talking about all of history. You said they ARE not morally superior. ARE. thats present tense genius. At best you could only talk about korean war till now

it was iran's $100 billion lmao

Yeah you have no argument then. Fuck off. We're not going to pretend like the last 60+ years didn't happen so you can feel good about yourself faggot.

noooo we know that, we know that for a fact. from literally every single north korean defector. They all say it without influence

shooped

Again, that information is delivered to you via a 3rd, 4th and even 5th and 6th party.

How many Nork defectors have you spoken to personally?

>At best you could only talk about korean war till now
I am willing to say even with the last 69 years we are far far morally superior to one of the worst families of dictators in world history

no that is 1st hand experience with interviews being put out for public viewing. are you retarded or do you literally have no idea how media works in the west

You can say it, but you can't argue it with fact because it's not true.

Next.

Again, flipping it around onto me. I know a lot about how much the Arab Spring movement fucked yo the region. I’m curious about your knowledge. You brought it up. Go on.
As I said, you haven’t demonstrated any real knowledge in all of our previous posts, so this is your time to shine.

it is true, the worst war crimes that have been commited in the last 69 years for the u.s. was hill 192, use of white phosphorus in Iraq, agent orange use in vietnam, and abu grahib prison. All of these are either debated or directly led to imprisonments

those war crimes i listed don't touch even the median war crimes for north korea

Not that guy.
But, in fairness to him, if you had any knowledge of the internal politics of other developing countries, you’d be shocked at how American media portrays them. And how American media dies tend to tow the government line, or at least the Democratic establishment line.
Calling it state media is a bit cynical but he may be a foreigner with English as a second language.

And you know that's actually a defector and not an actor?
You know it's a defector from Jong-Un's leadership and not his father or grandfather (who absolutely were scumbags?)
Unlike his predecessors, Jong-Un spent time in the west. He wants to keep his authority while also improving the lot of North Koreans. He wants to be what his father dreamt of--an actual hero to the people.
Give it time. Things do not happen over night, or even over the span of a few years. This takes decades, even lifetimes to come to fruition.
Things will absolutely begin getting better for the people of North Korea--they already have. You can tell when people are being coerced into speaking something and when they're being genuine--life has gotten better in North Korea.

if you still can't understand, fuck man. im out have fun

quality post/10 . Shame there's so many anti-trump shills

I wish we'd just stop and let the world develop in a horrible way. I kind of want to see Europe become overwhelmed so we can activate Fortress America and go back to being the only people in the world who matter. We could exile leftists to whatever Europe becomes, we could just admit Humanism is over and focus on making it to the stars.

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well the democratic establishment line, yes. but often times the government is being the subject of media reports not the instructor or ruler of the media. We support our way of government but hold our government accountable

Neat, it's not true though. What you listed is what is publically known and barely scratches the surface.

They also barely scratch the surface of what has been committed by the United States.

yes, because we have the videos of them defecting too. we have access to their medical reports showing the mass use of human feces as compost led to parasites throughout the defectors body. no actor would ever go through that for a role lmao

you... you are either a north korean shill or the most naive person in history

His uncle was trying to build support for a coup to overthrow him. Got assassinated.
And his brother was building support to return and overthrow him. Got assassinated.
There’s two that we’re trying to kill him that he preemptively assassinated.

The same could be said for you. You are either an American shill or the most naive person in history.
>Stop saying things that I don't like

You're not very smart.

... we have investigative journalism that holds people accountable. the "barely scratches the surface" is just paranoid bullshit. sure there may be stuff we didn't find out about, but we did find out about the worst shit because the people involved leaked it on purpose out of disgust

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Diplomacy really isn’t your forte, is it?

nope, nope, you are literally listening to north korean explanations for their atrocities and actually believing it LMAO

>no actor would ever go through that for a role
pandorabox.com.my/2018/02/28/insane-celebrity-weight-transformations/

You should stop relying on logical fallacy.

>... we have investigative journalism that holds people accountable. the "barely scratches the surface" is just paranoid bullshit. sure there may be stuff we didn't find out about, but we did find out about the worst shit because the people involved leaked it on purpose out of disgust

No, it's not paranoid bullshit. You are extremely naive.

no that isn't work, i am not an american shill. Im willing to harshly critic our government and hold it to a higher standard thani t does today. America has huge issues with our bureaucracy, but those issues are nothing compared to north korea

I don't get it

you sound like a person that doesn't believe we landed on the moon, or believes the earth is flat.
Some crazy paranoid shit

those transformations are nothing compared to what i listed. nothing

Seems like an awful lot of people in here would rather get assassinated as soon as they assume supreme power than pre-emptively defend themselves and set a precedent that you will ruthlessly take down anybody who would do the same to you?

I have never heard of a model or an actor purposely infecting themselves with mass amounts of parasites for a role

Earth is a geoid, we definitely landed on the moon. America is filthy.
These three things are true, no?

seems like a lot of us don't believe in being dictators retard

Until you get the chance to be one, anyway.
Take your self-righteous faggotry and kill yourself with it

yes yes, and no nope nopity nope
close but your bias is showing

is 5'9 manlet height?
tupac=5'9
michael jackson=5'9
5'8

I think your bias may be what is showing, because it's no secret that America is filthy dirty.

Well i wouldn't be a fat retarded paranoid fuck that commits atrocities against my own citizens if i was one

have you ever been to america genius. We have so much fucking space, open nature, beautiful landscapes. I mean how is america filthy dirty

Lol Is this thread important to you? Sorry, I’ve been writing other replies to other people on this very thread and even looking at other threads. Try it, you might lighten up a bit more.
What do you know about nuclear weapons design then? How easy is it to move from fissile bombs to H-bombs? And lol st your accusation that I know nothing when you come out with basic bitch nuclear weapons for dummies shit like “duh did you know that the trigger fit a H-bomb is actually a fissile bomb”. I’m humouring you with a reply you dope. If you’re genuinely that ignorant, I hope you learned something, if you’re an expert that’s baiting, then gosh, you really wasted those college years.

wheres your proof that kim jong un commits atrocities? the media?

>Wikipedia:
>Korean war: ended by trump
>Trump: ended 50 year old war
>North Korea: saved by trump
It'll be majestic

Have I ever been to America? Lmfao I am American you dolt! My government is filthy fucking dirty. Corrupt to the core. The only difference between a dictatorship and America's "democracy" is an illusion of choice.

>america is beautiful
>never visited detroit
>gets worse then further south u get

I know an absolute shit ton about nuclear weapons design and have studied numerous design models. numerous materials used for nuclear tampers. The scientific process that went into the manhatten project and the evolution of the bomb over the years. obviously I don't have access to the classified data and bomb designs of many of the tests though

his own citizens, satellite imagery, first hand testimonies...

those pictures you see on tv are fake there is no american dream
>boom pow

someone in this thread is the posterchild for Dunning-Kruger

oh yes, our bureaucracy is corrupt and citizens united was a fucking joke. but idk if that qualifies as "filthy dirty" especially relative to north korea

It's you.

that is one city in a fucking huge country, and it actually doesn't get worse as it goes further south

We haven't done anything that North Korea hasn't done. From that it is basically IMPOSSIBLE to try to claim any sort of moral superiority without looking incredibly retarded, delusional or both.

his own citizens said that? did you see the fake tears on that guy who allegedley got taken over by officials? everything america says is a lie. i bet you think fidel castro was bad

the north korean shill?

uhhh what? we as in the people alive right now? as in me and you? orrrrr

yeah it does have u ever been to disney land or eaten mcdonalds in the south?

how much does Kim pay you to kiss his ass online?

As in country against country, both hands are filthy and bloody.

To pretend otherwise is pure disingenuity.

america has lost every war

no it doesn't and yes I have to both

I wish Mr. Kim paid me!

Or could afford to pay me

LOL

nah, that's just a shill. ill give you a hint though, they hate being called stupid.

so a country that has existed for over 200 years is held to the same morality standard as to one that has existed for about 70 years.
>North Korea is just front-loading their atrocities
LMAO

>Being the loser absolves you of war crimes

Cool story

>no true scotsman

good arguing bro

that isn't true in the slightest, the only war we haven't met the objectives in wasn't even a war for us. The american people didn't give two shits about vietnam and we still massacred them until we just got tired of it

And what do those factoids have to do with the discussion? Skilling up from fissile to thermonuclear is not a straightforward process. It’s not easy. That was the point I made.
Comparing the process to developing fissile bombs in the first place is redundant because that comparison doesn’t even matter for the point I was making. Hell, if the leap from fissile to thermonuclear is so easy, why didn’t South Africa do it?
The simple point I’m making in this nuclear weapons section of the thread discussion is: North Korea would never have made that leap without Obama funding then via billions in aid and also turning a blind eye. Bush’s sanctions damn halted their weapon development efforts during the 2000’s by bringing the UN in and forcing them to comply with inspections via sanctions.

Source for this quote, please?

seriously, i think you don't know what no true scotsman is. Please google it, you are making yourself look really stupid

Yeah America is so morally superior by sending fleets of drones to bomb civilians.

it is actually a very straightforward process lmao, you would know how straightforward it is if you studied designs of nuclear weapons.

I think it might be you who doesn't know what it is since you keep trying to say that America is "totally different" somehow and held to different standards and blah blah
A WAR CRIME IS A WAR CRIME IS A WAR CRIME

a) the missiles have cameras on the tips specifically so that casualties to civilians can be minimized by guiding the bombs AWAY from innocents like children if they are nearby
b) holy shit you know nothing about how the u.s. military operates

You're wasting your time. Most of my fellow Americans gladly drank the "US Fed is God" Koolaid.

not really, killing 1 child vs. killing a million children are not the same thing. war crimes can be compared and weighted

America is the one who has killed a million children btw

you do know the fed is the federal reserve right?as is independent of the government right? you sound stupid

when and where, cite your sources

>It's time to go to war
With Iran right?

Faggots fighting Bout political shit on an Japanese image board. Fuckin spergs.

STOP he thinks America is exceptional. He doesn’t understand he’s been seduced by propaganda. It’s like asking a retard if they’re retarded.

an american image board made in the japanese style....

the FEDERAL government is the Federal Reserve now?

I wish you knew how fucking stupid you sound.

I don't think america is exceptional, but compared to North Korea it is. Anyone with a brain could figure that out

>Anybody exposed to Western Media can figure that out
ftfy

You said the "U.S. FED", not a single american would ever refer to the American government that way since the FED actually refers to the federal reserve... I highly doubt you are an american. If you are, you should really really bone up on your government

no

yes as in shorthand for the US FEDERAL GOVERNMENT you fucking autist
You should feel embarrassed and ashamed.

anybody with a brain that treats any source of media with equal scrutiny could figure it out. I.e. a brain

imagine for a second trying to pull the
>ACKTSHUALLY
card and still being wrong LMAO

Which they used to stir up and intensify the wars in Yemen and Syria and develop nuclear arms. Good job honest America, let nobody accuse America of confiscating money untowardly. (However they can’t really avoid being accused of knowingly shovelling cash towards a regime primed to spend it on wars, unfortunately)

t. bias

>Trump
>Dictator
kek

what? no, that isn't shorthand for the U.S. Federal government.
go and google "The FED" right now. I guarantee you interests rates and the federal reserve will be the first results you moron

>equal scrutiny across all sources
>hurr durr i'm a retard
>guess that means bias

Yes, it is. I am telling you EXACTLY what I meant when I said the words and you're still trying desperately to cling to some notion of correctness.

You were wrong. Get over it lmao

I will be waiting for your retarded excuse for not knowing what the fed is

I don't care what you meant, I care that you are so stupid you fucked up. If you are talking about the government, at least know an ounce about the government

I wasn't wrong retard

I'm perfectly okay with intensifying wars in yemen and syria. Its like hitler and stalin fighting in ww2. Let them at each other

That is the most hilarious post I’ve ever seen on here.
>agent orange and the entire Vietnam war
>illegal invasion of Iraq
>instigating dozens of Arab Spribg civil wars
>turning a blind eye to NK and Iran developing nukes
>Grenada
>bay of pigs
>the shah of Iran
>spying on your own citizens as well as every foreign citizen to use an American website
>currency manipulation throughout the world
>stirring up trouble in every country that refuses to bend the knee
Yeah America has been so honest this past 69 years.

You were actually wrong though lmao
Denial is a hell of a drug dude. It's pretty obvious I wasn't talking about the Federal Reserve, you just autistically thought you had some kind of trump card and all you succeeded in doing was making yourself look fucking retarded.

a) bay of pigs, grenada, arab springs, the shah of iran, spying on own citizens, currency manipulation (which we don't do, we literally have a floating currency that we don't manipulate at all), stirring up trouble ARE ALL NOT WAR CRIMES. In fact some of those I fully agree with.
b) this is just shit you disagree with

tell me exactly how i was wrong you fucking moron

I mean i love the U.S. getting credit for shit like the Arab Sping but we aren't that amazing

I wasn't talking about the Federal Reserve. I was pretty clearly going on a tirade about the Federal Government of the United States. Anybody except an autist would have picked up on that. Instead, you, in all your autism, latched on to the Federal Reserve because "FED" is shorthand for Federal Reserve but again, nobody except you was thinking about the FR.
I'm sorry for your autism, have a nice life friend.

The FED, is how anyone in the united states refers to the Federal reserve, not the federal government. If you were an american with any knowledge of the workings of the government, you would know this

alright IVAN, maybe you should do some research before going on your tirade so you don't look so stupid

Hey, I was interested to hear your explanation for how you think Obama was bit responsible for the 2bd wave Arab spring. Don’t you dare blue ball me again bitch.

The only people who refer to the FR as the FED are people in finance though. Most people don't even know the Federal Reserve exists or what it does.

You know what EVERYBODY knows exists though? the US FEDeral Government.
When you're desperately latching on to a technicality and providing nothing else of substance but insults, you've lost.

Get over yourself lmao

he shouldn't but anti-americans blame america for anything they don't like regardless of facts

Ah so you admit you have no argument.
Shit debate, faggot!

nope, why would google bring back the federal reserve when i google the US FED then? is google strictly caring about the finance industry?

the gov. the federal gov. federalism, any of these would work

This is some incredibly concentrated autism.

America was never the only people who matter. At less than 5% of the global population. How do you think the entire world gives a crap about America? Other than praying they’ll stay out of our countries.

I admitted that you were so stupid and so wrong i couldn't argue with you and implied that the only people this wrong would be foreign propaganda idiots

>im wrong
>google says im wrong
>no evidence suggests i'm right
>must be HIS autism, not mine

You were arguing a technicality that didn't even counter my argument.

You are literally acting like an insufferable faggot autist lmao

No it is actually autism. How else do you explain focusing on a non-issue instead of attacking the actual argument?

literally nato and the u.n. rely on that 5% to do 1000% of the heavy lifting for military work around the world. Apparently its the u.s's fault for north korea and iran getting nukes when we are only 5% of the world LMAO. you can't blame us for everything and then say we don't matter

your argument was stupid and wrong, it wasn't even an argument
>hurr durr americans are drinking the kool aid
>american government couldn't have done anything good ever
>my anti-american bias clearly isn't dictating my thinking

100%* whoops

You're embarrassing.

Ah yes, that’s true. But that’s also got wiggle room. When asked, the media shills the government line hard. Invasion of Iraq springs to mind, the 45-minute dossier being hard fact! Along with the embed reporters shilling hard too. Other stuff like portraying Iran as pretty much akin to Disney villains with no redeeming qualities whatsoever. And totally ignoring or downplaying African issues.

because you literally don't have an actual argument. its like trying to play chess with a 3 year old that just wants to chew on the pieces. I have refuted every argument with actual facts that has been made in this thread. but for some reason I didn't need to do this with your "argument". wonder why

Saying someone doesn't have an argument isn't an argument in and of itself. You have to explain how it wasn't an argument and psst PROTIP: good luck arguing that the United States isn't filthy dirty.

I really just feel sorry for you because it is apparent that you are an idiot-savant.

>on the right, the man lies through his entire body, how he stiffly smiles while in desperate and tenacious engagement, as if approach and body language will compensate for what they both know, the man on the right is overwhelmed and scared because he cannot realize fast enough how ill equipped he is in his role as national leader, he will believe any lie as well, he needs them to buy time for himself

>on the left, the man plays along because it suits him, it suits him to have the man who leads the nation he threatened to destroy ask permision to step over a line, so that he may grant this leader the honor of visiting the country of the man on the left and speak for only seconds, he knows they will use each other, but only the man on the left has anything to gain.

War never ended. The US is oficially losing.

Capitulating to a foreign power they failed to disarm and has many times threatened the US, a foreign power that claims to have developed nuclear weapons with only the US in mind.

sure, before the invasion with the evidence that the media had they fully supported it. yet a ton of the negative criticism for it is completely unsupported. We prevented Iraq from getting nuclear weapons that they were trying to prevent. Just like we SHOULD have done with iran and north korea. Yet people bitch that we didn't find any actual working nuclear weapons. We finally acted before there was a huge problem and the media still bitches. I consider myself a moderate liberal, but i fully support the invasion of iraq

>War never ended. The US is oficially losing.
>Capitulating to a foreign power they failed to disarm and has many times threatened the US, a foreign power that claims to have developed nuclear weapons with only the US in mind.

The other side of the story is that we have bullied North Korea endlessly

Imagine what could have happened if we'd helped them and kept a close eye on the development of it instead of going straight into war
Imagine if we hadn't spent 60 years establishing ourselves as an enemy of North Korea, establishing a position in which we could not guarantee the welfare of its people. Imagine establishing an indefensible position.

exactly, good luck arguing that the united states isn't filthy dirty. SAYING ITS FILTHY DIRTY WITH NO FACTS OR EVIDENCE ISN'T AN ARGUMENT
This is why you ride the short bus carl

That’s a fair enough take but do you have any evidence that they’re lying? I mean supporting their take is the fact that they fight solar to have assassinated anybody else in the same way as is brother. And the reports about his uncle were very strong at the time, much stronger consistent reports from many different sources, moreso than for any other topic that’s been leaked out of NK.

>exactly, good luck arguing that the united states isn't filthy dirty. SAYING ITS FILTHY DIRTY WITH NO FACTS OR EVIDENCE ISN'T AN ARGUMENT
>This is why you ride the short bus carl

You've gone this entire thread without backing up any of your assertions. You have zero right to demand any sort of anything from anybody you disingenuous ham.

yes, every north korean defector ever

where haven't I backed up my assertions. how many different facts do i need to cite before I AM?

You haven't provided a single source for any claim you have made.

point me in the direction of the claim that I didn't back up, i will find the evidence and prove you to be wrong

Dude you can’t tell Americans that. They can’t see themselves from the outside. You’re just being mean now.

most of your arguments i can refute just off the top of my head with basic facts and logic, but if you want sources i will give you sources

Not my responsibility. It's your responsibility to point out your sources. I know you can't, we both know you can't. You were wrong. Now in a pathetic effort to save your fragile little ego you'll claim you were "just trolling."

Kill yourself.

You can't refute anything off the top of your head. You refute with citations.