Just got diagnosed with ASPD at 23. This is what used to be known as sociopathy...

I had behavioral counseling as a kid and people have called me a sociopath before, but I didnt think anything of it until recently. My coworker said something to me and it suprised me because I thought I had been conducting myself really well at work.

Thats ok, I live in california, so I cant really carry a gun anyway.

Go live in your mothers basement, grow a neck beard and leach off the welfare system you whiny whimp. Nevermind, I'm sure you already do. Shave off the beard, and as long as your skin isnt as white as Edward Cullen from Twilight, go collect some natural vitamin D from the sun, then get a job and get laid.

Shut up faggot

Shut up faggot

Also if you're ever investigated for a serious crime police will find out about this making you more suspicious and if you really have ASPD it's not too unlikely that you'll commit a serious crime someday.

So you kinda fucked up

Did you have to fill out a questionnaire? If so, why the hell were you honest? It's painfully obvious which answers let you seem dangerous... did you want to feel special and different?

When I was in medical school and near the beginning of residency, I spent a few months working in psychiatry. I can always tell which patients have ASPD and/or BPD because having a conversation with them inevitably pisses me off. One of my attendings told me that you can often tell what personality disorder a patient might have by how they make you feel, and it's very true.

No, I took a couple law classes in college and character evidence is rarely allowed in courts. You arent even allowed to bring up criminal history a lot of the time.

Its not what you do, but rather what you don't do. What you don't do is show empathy. You'd be great in the military where you have to make quick calm decisions so long as you're committed to your job.

I didnt fill out a questionaire I just just talked with her. I was honest because I wanted to know the truth. I dont think its going to limit me in many ways because there is no real way for people to find out unless I tell them. There is no national mental illness archive or something where they collect this information. Only me and my psychiatrist know.

What pisses you off about them?

depends on your country i guess

Since you were stupid enough to be honest with her about your antisocial tendencies atleast don't be honest with her if you feel the urge to or are already planning a crime. It's also not too unlikely she will drop you as many shrinks don't want to work with ASPD as it's untreatable and may possibly endanger them.

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Hard to explain. I have seen many more patients with BPD than with ASPD, but when I talk to them they tend to distrust me and behave as if I know nothing and they know everything. BPD patients often act very dramatically and erratically, and often split against me where they essentially believe I am an evil person and treat me as such. They are incredibly irrational and speaking to them is like speaking to a brick wall; it gets nowhere.

ASPD (and BPD a lot of the time) patients are very manipulative and will try to use you to get what they want. In medicine, patients try to manipulate their healthcare workers all the time, so it's very easy to see through it, but they don't give up. They lie and lie and lie, and nothing you say or do will ever suffice unless you give into what they want.

This is all for people I've seen in a hospital, and their behaviors often are part of what landed them there. There are people who live out their daily lives regularly with these conditions and don't cause as much trouble. Just because you have ASPD doesn't mean you're going to commit crimes or kill someone.

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You sound like a psychopath

lol ok

They think they know everything better than you since ASPD and NPD are very close to each other (and correlate very often). They are basically just diferent intensity's on the same spectrum starting with narcissistic tendencies and ending with psychopathy.

Yes I know, that's why they are grouped together as cluster B personality disorders along with BPD and HPD.

Welcome to the Anti-Social Social Club, I've been here since I was a kid, and now you'll be here forever too.

Yeah, I dont have any intention of being a criminal or a killer. I just dont know what to do with this info. It was kind of a waste of time to get diagnosed.

>People with aspd can live completely normal lives.

They will use this as a legal excuse for denying you opportunities and taking away your rights for the rest of your life. Enjoy citizen of clown world. May the honk be with you

Yeah it definitely was. The only thing you got going for you is that you now have an answer to "whats wrong with me?".

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This latter part worked for me!

ASPD is separated into two parts. Psychopathy and sociopathy. You feel no emotion if you have the former, and apparently a bit with the latter. Also, they can both still feel rage, even though it's an emotion as well

That's overly simplified to a point of incorrecness. "Psychopathy" and "Sociopathy" don't get used anymore in the DSM-V.

Inofficially some experts basically described something along the lines of "Narcissistic-Antisocial.Spectrum" which looks like thath:

Narcisstic tendencies ---> NPD ---> ASPD -> "Sociopathy" ---> Malignant Narcissism (ASPD + NPD + Sadism) ---> Psychopathy

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Apathetic sad pathetic dickhead.

nigger fuck off

Stuff it up your ass
Being dumb, egocentric and malicious doesn't pass as a good combo

go to psychforums.com/antisocial-personality/ to see if you really have ASPD or have been misdiagnosed.

>What am I supposed to do with this information?

I think that's a question for the doctor who diagnosed you.

Was this a real doctor, by the way? A doctor that other people can see and converse with?

Join the club, fag. Doesn't really change anything. However I'd recommend that you don't tell anyone because it will cause those closest to you to see you differently and act differently around you. I scored in the mid 30s on the checklist as well.

solid advice, doesn't matter how long you've been friends with them, they'll google it, read through some of the witchhunt articles written by victims and never trust you again

Hollywood hasn't done us any favors. Always portraying people with ASPD as insane, maniacal serial killers.

Personally i blame that on the similarity of the words "psychopathy" and psychotic/psychosis" and a lack of interest from the general population which leads to them always mixing these two things up

Likely another reason. That's why I don't tell people about it. Haven't told any of the girlfriends I've had, haven't even told my siblings. I suspect if I told them, they'd stop associating with me and I enjoy having people around me too much to let that happen.

It's funny how people who've known you for ages and already know of all your individual negative qualities suddenly see you as someone completly different once they've given your behaviour a name and pathologize you as ASPD/Sociopath

I do find it funny when nurses or other medical workers who see your medical record treat you once they read it though. I kind of enjoy that.

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I'm not diagnosed and now that you tell me that even nurses will be aware of that once you're diagnosed im really glad I'm not. Have you ever noticed that they took some extra-precautions because of that diagnose? I imagine psychiatries would maybe treat you differently... Have you ever been in one?

Never been in a psychiatric hospital. I've noticed that nurses try to spend as little time alone with me as possible until I initiate a mini conversation. If I get the same nurse as I did the last time (which happens almost every time now, so they know me. I'm not a criminal and even if I was, they'd never be in any danger.) They're uncomfortable until they start talking to me. Being charismatic and approachable helps.

Forget to finish off the sentence: If I get the same nurse as I did last time, they're okay after the first initial visit. They all know me now.

ASPD is not sociopathy as commonly understood. Its just a medical sounding label for douchebag and gives ((them)) yet another excuse to dose up yet another group of people.

user. Before you do or say anything just ask yourself if someone did or said this to me would it piss me off? If yes don't do it. Simple. I just saved you thousands In drug costs.

You can use it as an excuse to die down communist sympathizers to a train track with a cross planted right next to their skull. Or just become a lawyer for injury cases.

Yeah, I dont have any intention of seeking therapy or taking medication. I had therapy as a kid for behavioral problems but was never diagnosed with anything. I dont think you can eve diagnose kids with ASPD

Correct, they don't diagnose children with ASPD. I was diagnosed at 20.

A common predecessor for ASPD is something called "Conduct Disorder" they diagnose violent kids with.

People with ASPD don't lack "cold empathy", they know how people think and what hurts them, they know wrong from right. What they lack is "warm empathy", which means they just don't care if what they do is wrong, or hurts you. Actually because people with ASPD don't have that "gut feeling" of whats wrong and right they tend to develop more cold empathy early on, meaning they probably can determine whats morally right and what you shouldn't say to a person better than "normal people" do.

This is why I do go to get diagnosed. I’d like to keep my foid. Fuck that bs

This user is spot on, I was diagnosed with Oppositional Defiant disorder as a teenager.

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If you're only diagnosed with ASPD and nothing else you won't get any medication. Many people with ASPD/NPD seek a psychiatrist for depression though and if they're (too) honest get later diagnosed with ASPD/NPD by talking to them. So the only drugs I can imagine being issued are SSRI's, but only for the depression which correlates with their personality disorder.

Whats so bad about that? Why would you want to get diagnosed?

is it possible to get disability aid/free money with aspd? Or social security benefits?

No, it also doesn't help you in court if you wonder, quite the opposite actually. There are literally no benefits to being diagnosed with a cluster-B personality disorder.

Suck it up and drive on

Have any of you ever dealt with someone who shows narcissistic tendencies?

I'm in a relationship with someone who rewrites history and I'm not sure how to cope with it, any advice?

I've never really been intereated in psychology, so I dont really know what that means. If they are "rewriting history" they are lying. Demand honesty and be ready to leave them if they wont be honest with you.

If you're not cold enough to not actually care about them just leave, cause they will use that weakness. Some narcissists don't even do so on purpose. As a narcissists you need some serious emotional intelligence to be able to reflect on yourself enough to realize what you doing and what you are. Relationships with narcissists usually only work with partners who have a personality disorder themselves. You should also know that they won't change, no matter what they say, because they simply can not change. The only thing you might achieve is that they'll pretends for some time.

So if you would consider yourself as normative, average person you should just leave her. Depending on how severe her personality disorder is (how dangerous she is) i'd advise you to just be really insufferable until they break up with you so you don't have to deal with the usual narcissist-relationship-shenanigans.

That advice is coming from a narcissist myself btw

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this is true. its the little things and its often you get a sense of unease not that they'll kill you, they're just fucking weird in some unknowable way.

nobody ever changes

get outta there - too much effort and they never change and they'll fuck you down the road.

Thanks for the advice.

I have some issues too, which makes me drawn to narcissists, they are basically the opposite of me. There is no physical danger, its just hurtful words and then the later the refusal to admit those words were even said.

Also as a narcissist can you tell me why narcissist can't change?

You probably encountered mostly ones who don't have much cold empathy/social intelligence and are not able to mimic normal facial expressions. Or they simply don't care how you feel and see them.
What makes people uneasy when interacting with people with ASPD/NPD (who are not skilled enough to mimic it properly) usually is that you notice (consciously or not) that the microexpressions their eyes make dont match with the expression the rest of their face tries to portray. If they have a high social intelligence/cold empathy though you won't ever be able to tell the difference between them and your average person.

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Codependents or people with DPD (Dependent personality disorder) are usually drawn to narcissists. There is much literature and many articles on the web about how a relationship between a someone with NPD and someone with DPD looks like, since it's so common. So I'd advise you inform yourself a bit on that, theres also tons of advise from people who were in the exact same position as you are now to be found on forums and such.

Narcissists don't change because they don't think that there is anything that could be changed about them that should be changed. They are essentially as perfect as could possibly be, so they won't change. Of course they can accept the fact that they would be even more perfect if they for example had a better work ethic, but that's something that can't be changed. The Ego of a narcissist can only exist in a mind where they are perfect and everything imperfect is a unchangable outer circumstance. The wish to truly change the own personality can't exist with a narcissists "super-ego" and a narcissist is just his "super-ego", there is nothing else. So changing basically means death for a narcissist.

It's probably really hard to understand in just a few sentences if you can't relate, maybe got a bit too in-depth there