Trap Thread

Trap Thread

>Suenami warning

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Other urls found in this thread:

youtube.com/watch?v=HudCIt-AuvE
baja-opcionez.com/category/shemales/
twitter.com/NSFWRedditVideo

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So is the sue bullshit some kind of organized shitpost effort or just a supreme autist? Hard to tell

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I think it was just a bunch of people jumping on to the joke to make fun of the first Sue, who was actually trying to be nice and genuine.

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best bunny

You underestimate my autism if you really wanna go there. My name is Sue.

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pls let there be a cutie locked up tonight posting OC

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I'm trying to...
being nice and genuine is how I do it.

signaturefagging a trap roleplay with no pics is definitely supreme autism, not nice and genuine

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pls let there be a cutie who will date me tonight

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okay, sue

I just can't compete it's all.

Um wow I'm sold. Any more? Hmu on kik at archive109

What a disappointing video

trips remove the blur

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Sue here. I thought I wanted to hear this and it was made 10 years ago. I love you Anonymous.
youtube.com/watch?v=HudCIt-AuvE

gonna post more or blue ball us?

Don't remove the blur.

Also Sue here.
Taftaj is the princess of traps. Discuss.

You can only play that game if you haven't already posted face

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f

asians make the best traps

cute face, jes

im not dating a qt trap until i get to my target weight loss, 6'0 180 to 170. which kills me because this year i've seen several traps near chicago that wanted to hookup just for a date and some sex...but i look so much better in my chastity cage and bed ties when im at 170 than 180 : p im pretty vain lol

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I understand and feel the exct same way. I will keep you company even though I cannot post pictures since it is against the new rules.

I’ll roll..but I wish you’d just post more I always miss the threads your in :)

thank you for understanding, sue.

This is the second time I feel like user's martyr taking up all those feels on myself so you'd feel better.
I want to get something out of it. I've suffered lots.

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trans girls are superior to cis, it is known

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RUN SUE!

Link?

I'm not that Sue I'm the other Sue.

yeah too bad I can't find any

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roll

GET AWAY FROM BALDI

The boy I like is not bald.

whoops I meant other sue haha.

I don't think she's in the thread. Today you get the sub-par Walker Sue.

...

More pics like this.

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bastard

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Unban Sue please.

>...Mods don't give a shit
Lies

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but that is me without the nosehook

you think someone would do that? just go on the internet and tell lies?
t. sue

nose hook is scary. can you do a ball gag sometime? i think that could be really cute

I'm going to kick Heinrich in the nuts for banning me. Right when everyone was shilling again I get banned.

rollin'

Need more of this cutie

I thought about too. I gotta buy a ballgag soon.

tasting my ass is really fun lol

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your perky penis is really cute. you look really hot tasting your ass like that. thanks for sharing, jes.

gape that hole

Nice dubs.

Also totally need your ass in my bed

>tfw you’ll never feed jes a creampie and piss cocktail

what does ass taste like?

probably how it smells

Gag would be perfect for you, would love to see you blush as you sissygasm

trap discord discord / hr25gu

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hands free cum video with audio when

Femenine buttholes
baja-opcionez.com/category/shemales/

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When i grow horns, i’ll melt antarctica and drown u all :)i’ll Aldo live in tha mariana trench and the moon.Enjoy seaworld.

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Sue Krapwynski

youre so cute, pls tell me you have a chastity kink

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I'm told I'm Sue Walker.

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Please, more!

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Sue here. Thread's dead. Bumping it for you.

Creepy head tilt schizo smirk. i approve

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My name's Sue and I'm here to tell you that you should clean your room first.

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Yes... moar... MOAR

Wow, that sucks, such a small dick. I guess you have to be a tranny if that's all you're packing.

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she's also 5'2
Destined to be a girl

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My name is Sue Walker and I wanna do more with my life than just porn.

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sexy barefoot slut with cute panties, it looks like youre wearing a chastity cage too

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Queen

WHO?!

hey Yea Forumsro's i think i have a problem
>known i was bi for a little over 6 years now
>been in a relationship just over 3
>currently engaged to a girl, buuuut
>past year/year and a half have been really longing to be more fem
>feel lost
>am 6'5" so not what i think of as "cute size"
>still have urges to turn fem
>don't know what to do, fml

pic is me with very little makeup, pretty sure I'm fugly

am i a lost cause?

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i love the story when kat feinted from an anxiety attack and ended up in the mental hospital for a week with her chastity cage still locked on and the key obviously was left at home

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Heyyy! what toys is everyone using tonight? heres my lineup

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sauce on pic? wanted forever

lmao that's great, never heard that one

Hmmmm, ass?

see they look more petite and cutesy than me

Roll

What does a "cum scented" lube smell like? That's not a substance I associate with a definite smell...

Why did I get banned for something I didn't even post? Lol

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if i was to pull it off it'd for sure take a serious workout routine

my ass is sad :(

pic is me with much more makeup and wig

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My name's Sue and I have a similar body.

You have nodded eyes don't put liner all the way to the top do your research sis you can be as pretty as you want as long as you put time, effort, and money into it

down like a clown charlie b-b-brown

If You had more ass, then def would hit
Idk, you're prolly good for head. If I was drink, then I might plow

because you're phoneposting with shared IPs

it def has a smell! a strong one tooo. this lube smells almost exactly like real cum with just a tiny hint of a chemicalness. right consistency too which makes it very funnn

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Right forgot about that lol but the reason for the ban is so stupid lol

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Well hello there, wanna snuggle? maybe rub our cocks together?

oats and squats, hrt wont gift you gains

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My name is Sue and considering your age I still see potential. What I don't see is make-up practice. This is why I wear none. Your shoulders might give you away though.

>6'5
stop honboxing, hon

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QT! I love you
*sigh* ok, who is you sue

probably my fave picture of myself, feel like my makeup was *almost* on point

oars and squats? or do you mean oats and i need more fiber in my diet lol

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im like 5'11, 6ish and like 200lbs, i can pull it off quite well. (though im pretty sure genetics had a lot to do with it)

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yes.
face is legit 10/10 qt tier

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Ass pics of her please
Who is she

Sorry, I squinted a little I suppose because I think if I can be passable then... hm...

Sue Walker.

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OC

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i feel bad about the depression and later panic got so intense her body shutdown and was obviously scary for her, but i love the chastity cage part. the nurses had to notice(if youre wearing tight clothing they usually undress you and put you in a gown to try and help your body relax) especially since ive actually had the same thing happen to me, except luckily i wasnt wearing my chastity, but i was in bed ties when i woke though because i was so scared when i woke up from the lithium coma they put me in and kept trying to leave

Any pics sue

you need a nice spanking

you are pure sex, caged?

Ass pics please

Do you have more ass pics like pic related? I need to beat it goth gf ya mean

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These amateurs itt are quite nice.

Perhaps. lul.
Sure. n.n

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I'm 15 and parents super Christian, hate crossdressers, and they don't know jack shit about this stuff :^)

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anyone have any tips or good sources for tips on things like makeup, clothes to help pass if i want to give it a shot in public, shaving odd spots ie. upper thighs, ass, etc.

Would you like to get on hormones?

Nice

i thought i saw it under those cute panties : )

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That's an ass that needs to be eaten out.

UMF WHY ARE YOU SO PERFECT?!
>15
Uhhhh... fugg

Shave everything just like any girl.
Practice make-up just like any girl (most girls don't wear it).
Present female or don't.
Basically ask all your friends if you pass and then decide. Some say I do some say I don't. I have no idea, my name is Sue.Though a rando said if they saw me they'd think I was female.

I mean im not gay or anything, still straight and like girls so no c: i just like wearing different feeling clothes >u

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Oh it's not about sexuality. You can be a girl and be with girls.
I'm asking if you wanna live as a girl.

i love seeing a slut get desperate to cum in chastity : )

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oh, sorry for seeing that wrong ;-;
nah i like being a guy, but if i could just like switch bodies and become a girl, then yea? i can go on a huge rant about it but i dont think Yea Forums is a place to do that lel

dude
don't post here or pics for 3 years

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Yum

Trans lesbians are pretty common, do some soul searching if u think you'd rather be a girl than a boy.

qt 3.14!! that ass is GORGEOUS

is that a king gizzard and the lizard wizard vinyl i spy in the background?

duley noted but shhhhhh

I'm saying you should decide cause the sooner the better. You can't swap bodies but you can live as a girl except for one detail.
I'm telling you cause you have potential to not go into prostitution or porn if you get on HRT.

Dats me!

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yea i know, i got really bad social anxiety and cant handle the judgement of my parents and siblings, probably will end up killing myself because of it.

Oh wow
Kik please

Yes it is haha, I have quite a few, the nonagon infinity one u see is a friends tho

I've also met king gizz and touched the microtonal bannana

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Tell your therapist first is my advice. You'll know what to do, I went on a Discord server and got emotionally DESTROYED so I wouldn't be bothered by stuff.

I didn’t realize my hair was fucked up until after the picture!

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Chastity is really hot but I dont own a cage :/

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Discord.. your welcome..... zjmUCRH

this skinny trap can probably catch my load

also, do we know who this is

Oh so that's what you meant by the cage. lol. Not as familiar with it ngl. Nah, just a usual bulge. n.n

Far from perfect but so much thanks, you'requite sweet. n.n

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thanks for the consideration ^,^

For what its worth the world is more accepting of guys being/acting/dressing feminine lately than it's been in a long time and the trend will probably continue, you can wear whatever you want without having to also transition

regular ass dudes with face filters belong in the containment threads

You're welcome and good luck. My name is Sue.

:3
Perfect fap material qt
I don't think I asked your name b4
What do you go by?

that's nice for guys who like to be feminine, but it doesn't really help trans people that much... it does a little, but it's not enough on its own

1/4 tone zooone!!! haha that's rad

and omg i can't get over that bubbly ass!

lmao ill keep that in mind

Oh and if you do change your gender think good about your name cause a lot of trans girls pick a cringy name.

I know, but it helped me when I was wrestling with the question myself

Or let someone else name you.
That's about it.

How do you act feminine being full of testosterone without faking it so hard it's cringe?

can this not turn into a "grooming underage kids" thread

Would bump with relevant content, but technically can't because that might be considered distributing obscene material to a minor since this faggot is still ITT

Where the mods at

OC pic

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post butt

moar

Fr im all for helping someone out but this is uncomfortable

I dont fake anything, I act like myself and sometimes that includes a lot of feminine behavior, if its "cringe" then so be it but it's not fake

Not grooming. Just tell them what they need to know so they don't turn into a faggot or hon.
Unless they're like actually gay or something and want to be like a 23 year old man with make-up in the future.
Feel me?

should've skipped the face..
n probably just posted CD.

That's the loophole I came up with. Get on HRT though it'll help you pass. If you do already (not think but actually do) your life will become cake walk in these terms. I know for I am Sue.

holy fuck that's hot

MODS! underage faggot alert!

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Fapping to traps and crossdressing for fun is all fine but don't actually take drugs or get surgery. The treatment of the body to match the dysphoric brain will be looked back on like we look back on lobotomies. It is not ethical or Hippocratic and the suicide statistics confirm this. Leave your fetish in the realm of fantasy.

Pic related. Don't do this.

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back to your mom's basements you go ;n;

It's cozy here tbh

a mom... Wtf is that nigger?

You're retarded if you get on HRT for sexual reasons (unless you're literally that homo) instead of identity reasons. You wanna be treated like a girl then better look and act like one.
Suicide rate is imho because they don't pass so life is hell cause they didn't get on HRT earlier in life.

Hnnnng. Can you take another one like this, but with both soles showing?

Sue here. I need to run to the store real fast. Here's a free bump.

looking for a slut? thank me later

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"Trans identity" is a misdiagnosis propagated by the media and the LGBT mafia. It is not different from body integrity identity disorder and should be treated the same way. Performing surgery or dosing irreversible drugs to these people is abuse.

And the not passing excuse is weak. There are ugly women too. Elevated suicide rates among those with mental illness (meant in the non-meme sense) is common.

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You're so sweet my dude. n.n
As far as remaining more user aside of still being traceable to my name, I often use the username ForbiddenFruit in various ways. lul

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While I agree with the majority of what you said, the main reasons for the suicides are from discrimination, abuse, and rejection from their fam.

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I wanna bite it

>Im going to masturbate to you
>aww so sweet
kek

Traps only
Adny6FH

Idk, just being polite since I'm shit at talking to people. Lmao

Pretty cute face

What if they specifically ask for that specifically without being told "you need hormones"? That's why I asked "Do you wanna live as a girl" if so you should do hormones otherwise you're a man in a dress.

I need more data about the suicide thing. There's lots of reasons why a trans person would decide to stop living at a certain point.

Yeah that too. Lots of reasons.

can you pull em up to show more cheek? got a thong?

would you fap to me?

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no.


jk

>I'm gonna shove my head up your ass and bite your intestines and make you scream.
>me: 0wo

Sue here. Keep trying. Maybe next life.
Same tbh.

ik I just thought it was a funny interaction between you two

i feel terrible for them, but also if they just spring the crossdressing and gender change on their family how are they supposed to react correctly? i fap to traps, i fantasize about having sex with a cute trans girl, but i know id even have a hard time if someone close to me just immediately came out of the closet. suicide is terrible and very selfish as it devastates anyone that cared about you, im a suicide survivor(aka fuckup, didnt take enough sleeping pills) that's also something really hard to live with. you feel terrible you tried to kill yourself and how wrong and selfish of a decision it was of you, and you also live in fear that you're going to try and do it again if you lose control.

I'm already fapping to you eight now

join /D8swSq

Sue here. I know what you're talking about. Only reason I didn't finish bleeding out cause I had weed money.

Ginger

Why is it so hard for you to accept that they like to wear differently cut pieces of cloth? It’s not a big deal, it’s almost literally nothing, your the one making a big deal out of it
How can you react correctly? By going “oh that’s neat” and moving on like an adult

>What if they specifically ask for that specifically without being told "you need hormones"? That's why I asked "Do you wanna live as a girl" if so you should do hormones otherwise you're a man in a dress.
Because you have to be of sound mind to consent to or request medication. Honestly the argument for recreational hormones for perverts is more tenable to me than the idea that hormones are a legitimate treatment for the ailment of transgenderism.

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Okay? Maybe they just act loopy cause they can't be themselves because of their hormones so they can't be free and alright in the head?

You know like they need their respective hormones to become good in the head and give appropriate responses.

Too bad there's only a tiny percentage of passable traps. And only a tiny percentage of that tiny percentage will go out looking for random hookups.

Kik? So cute !!

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If their problems are caused by hormone imbalances then why not treat them with hormones that match their birth gender? Why go the opposite way?

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Unban Sue.

Because they consciously know they do not want to be that gender and as a consequence are miserable when forced to be it.

>assuming that's never been tried
lol
People didn't just meme the current treatment into existence, it's just what works best. Stop swallowing the /pol/ pill so hard

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Hey there at least someone acknowledges me ;~;

post flaccid fempeen right now

>Because they consciously know they do not want to be that gender and as a consequence are miserable when forced to be it.
They are not mentally fit to make that decision in that state.

Treatments other than full transition have been tried and work. The problem now is the LGBT mafia making unsubstantiated claims and making it impossible to actually research because they will bully your funding away.

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Your argument is illogical. Imagine there is a man with a mental disorder that causes him to beleive his hands should be dogs. Naturally, you would remove his hands and replace them with dog heads. Only then could he live a full and happy life. I suppose a bigot like you would simply lie to him, telling him that his hands are simply hands and not dogs, which would only further his depression and dysphoria.

Did you notice that there's a paradox here meaning that you are wrong? I can't even begin to resolve how like... are you trolling? You literally have a paradox there. What do you propose just let these people walk?
Or give them what they want so they're sane?
Or subject them to somethingelse which they're not asking for and will refuse?

by correctly i mean give the same warmness and want to spend the same amount of time with them as you did before.

i had a friend(not a close friend) literally go from one day being jake the normal guy that like meet at the gamestore to play MTG, and one day with ZERO indication showed up to when we were gonna meet to play MTG, introduced "herself" as Jessica, full makeup, lipstick, wearing a really slutty oufit too(it was hot to be fair) a top with spaghetti strings over her shoulders and shorts about 5 inches long with feminine sandals and "her" toes painted bright pink, also a blonde wig(he was blonde as a male but hasnt grown the hair out at the time yet to be fem).

never even talked to me about it, just pretended like jake died, and jessica was a new person for me to meet. you can tolerate that, and i was friendly, but dont act like that isnt just as hard on the friend than the person transitioning

aw fuck, I didn't think of that.

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This doesn't compare to wanting to be a girl.

Always gonna get acknowledged, u a qt

Oh no, you're gonna start shitposting again about the one (literally one) schizophrenic crossdresser that pimozide ""cured"" next, huh
You do not know better than the experts.
Your russian propaganda-tier sources are invalid

You can still be fem/turn more fem and be with her. I'd talk to her about it and just be honest. You have every right to be happy however you want to be.

anybody have any more?

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I might be hopping in at a weird time but hey all

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anyone have any sexy chastity pics to share, oc or not idc, i just want to see one i dont already have...

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My name is Sue and you get a gold star for the effort.

Primum non nocere

First do no harm.

The current "treatment" for this illness is harmful and should not continue until further research can be done to determine if, indeed, the current treatment is effective, or if it is not. But the LGBT mafia will not allow research be done because it might not suit their propaganda. So for now, yes, either do not treat them or treat them the exact same way body integrity identity disorder is treated.

>t. angry tranny who already crossed the line
just post your asshole, it's why we're all here.

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You really turn me on a lot, what are you into?
Do you have kik?

Why not? You are wanting to be something that you are not and can never be

That actually you?? Cause if so, welcome back!

Personally I don't want to be male and if you forced me to be one I'd try to commit suicide.

You can take hormones to look and act like a girl, dress like a girl. If the illusion is strong enough then you will be treated like a girl. That's what you wnt right? I mean you're not doing it cause you're gay right?

I want research to be done to save your life without irreparably damaging your body.

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Hullo

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this user egg af lol

So by that logic it should be perfectly fine for me to paint/dye my skin black if I want to be treated like a black person right?

I empathize with their families with a hard pill to swallow. But when they get violent, abusive, judgmental, and overboard about it, I think they deserve the spite they get as far as someone transitioning when the asshats don't want them to. But I get where you're coming from.
But yeah, good that you didn't suicide yourself. Guessing you felt and experienced things so bad with no relief long term to the point of going against your survival instincts seeking relief in death? Correct me if I'm wrong. I've been looking up a lot on it and contemplate death in most of my spare time.

Any fit guy who would like to send me hot pics on kik? Im a tranny. Leave your kik

what's the back look like?

id love to have her long sexy soles and toes rubbing my caged cock on the couch while we're netflixnchilln and giggling when i obviously can no longer hide the frustration it's causing me as i can't get hard to enjoy those feet : ) even when she's just resting her feet on my thighs and not actively rubbing my cage and teasing my locked cock with the key on her cute anklet and perfectly pedicured feet, she keep giggling at the precum oozing out of my chastity cage and tells me i need to wear panty pads

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My name is Sue and I can do pic related until you get it because people not getting the problem is why I can't post pictures on Yea Forums.

Even if there was a pill okay? That made me want to remain male and I would enjoy being male and flexing and testosterone and what not?
There's still a chance I might not take it and opt for being treated like a girl and trying to look and act like one.

Also does not compare with gender but getting warmer.

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It sure is! Boy does choosing pics that won't get me totally laughed out of here suck though

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No. That's just an implication that doesn't apply to trans mtf of ftm. A common misconception from taking things too literal. I don't blame you though.

Sue here not understanding how this concept is so difficult to get...

That would be fine but trans want people to pretend they are REAL women when they are not. You should not be able to force people to play your wierd games. Not to mention some guys could become traumatized/scuicidal after being tricked into having feelings for a male

Here you go user

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Nah u cute. 10/10 would succ girldick

That analogy is no more than a misrepresentation of how transitioning works.

You legit look cute. Wig or dyed hair btw?

i was so tired, i could never sleep because when i turned off the lights and tv i was alone with my mind, and my mind attacked me telling me what a failure i was. taking all those pills i thought would kill me made me think of the constantly fatigue and tiredness ending and the negative thoughts and voices in my head finally ending

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Interesting observation. lol

I dunno about that I straight up tell people I'm trans so I don't get punched for not being believable enough.
Should tell a person kind of a dick move. I know you wanna be a girl just like any other girl but if you take hormones you also gotta tell people.
That's my opinion.
In any case tricking people is a different issue than wanting to be the opposite gender.

That looks new

I think I'm gonna start posting somewhere else
Here's a semi flaccid one

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>Even if there was a pill okay? That made me want to remain male and I would enjoy being male and flexing and testosterone and what not?
>There's still a chance I might not take it and opt for being treated like a girl and trying to look and act like one.
That just indicates to me that you are mentally unfit to make that decision. But I want to make clear that I only started this discussion because you have been encouraging vulnerable and uncertain people in this thread to start taking hormones and misleading therapists and shit. Fucking stop that you evil fuck.

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Anyone else notice Ramon has been banging more and more trannies

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I don't understand why it is different. You want to be treated like something you aren't. The only difference I can see is that you (probably) wouldn't get a sexual thrill out of pretending to be black.

Ty. n.n

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super cute peen

>I think I'm gonna start posting somewhere else
boooooo

Aww, thanks~

Dyed! I've been accused of wearing a wig here quite often but it's my actual hair.

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kreygasm

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ah fuck I missed it, I'm sure it was nice

perfect most best girl tbh

Lmao imagine being this retarded, you expect me to go around and tell everybody that I'm trans even though I pass?

It's simple.
Want to live a girl's life?
Decide ASAP and get on hormones.

Gay or pervert? Get the hormones on the black market you don't have an issue.

more butts!

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I don't get sexual thrill out of living as a girl either. It's just a norm. You're not obligated to understand, so I don't mind your misunderstanding. I could pull up other sources on the topic to help clarify but I'm also busy doing a lot of art commissions and getting stoned in a few. lol

Thinking of you fucking my mouth is making my girldick all drippy

Definitely looks good on you.
Also, makes it easier to pull on your hair during a good fuck ;D

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ooh very nice tummy. maybe crop the previous pic or something if it's not a bother, I think just putting a dot on it in ms paint works too.

It's simple.
Want to live a girl's life?
Don't You will eventually regret any permanent changes you make to your body.

Gay or pervert? Just fucking crossdress you maniac. You literally belong in an asylum if you need to take drugs or get surgery to get your rocks off.

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Well I have no problem with people like you. My problem is with mtf trans people who insist that you treat them exaclty as you would treat a biological woman. It just doesn't seem fair or conductive to a healthy minded society. Although I will concede even THAT isn't a very big deal. If you want to pretend to be a woman, fine. There is one aspect of this topic that really bothers me and that is the lack of an age limit for this stuff. Consenting adults are one story, but children's minds and personalities are not fully developed and they should never be able to make decisions that will permenantly alter their future sex life/identity/hormones

Took this during a camping trip.

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I enjoy giving good head as much as I enjoy getting too~

Exactly! Can't pull a wig, but you can pull real pink hair~!

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Sue here. The arguments stopped with me being the last poster... did I actually explain it to them?

Don't bother, as I said above I realized that I don't care what consenting adults do. I just think children need to be kept away from this stuff

wew, I'd like to camp in there

Just don't feel like this my kind of audience? If that makes sense lol

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Personally I wish I could've transitioned at a younger age, since you mentioned it.

Not at all just don't get all pissy if someone refers to you as he/him

Good idea user

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You look damn sexy in pink and black.
So which do your prefer, getting eaten out or sucked?

When will I start regretting it, because I haven't yet :D

no?

Unless they show sexual/romantic interest in you, then you should really tell them

Thanks user! Really got me stroking now.

I'm much more of a fan of giving than receiving, but I'd gladly let your mouth venture to wherever you want it

Your kind of audience is people looking for professional trans porn
You should really be shooting pro videos
Just make sure you make webms of your stuff and send 'em on back to Yea Forums when you make it big

It wasn't safe for you to do at a younger age.

You're still young. The life of a childless spinster is hard on even natural women. invest in cats and wine in the mean time.

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thong pic?

omg that's one of the smallest cages ive ever seen ! . are you on hrt? regardess, im in love with you and want to cuddle with you and teasing your clittycock all night before i fall alseep holding it in my hand