Who else is hyped for 2020?
So far it seems it's either Warren or Kamela Harris who'll be facing the Donald
Hillary wasnt as far left and spent 1.5 billion in that campaign, and i'm not sure Pocahontas or Bob Marley are much less dislikeable to the general public
Is this going to be harder or easier than 2016?
also general Trump appreciation thread, the man probably saved America and somewhat the west
Hopefully his doctrine gets picked up by moderate right wings worldwide
memes are welcomed, including you leftists, give us your best (lol)
yang will win
You're assuming the Dem candidate will be chosen by/for the people, and there's your mistake.
The money and Superdelegates will go to Biden, establishment Dems will still vote for him, those with any values will stay home, Trump will win.
You guys are delusional. Biden/Buttigeg ticket for 2020. This will have a strong chance against the Donald. Biden appeals to moderates and the old democrats, Buttigeg gets the intersectional votes and appeals to the new generation of voters. Trump had barely won last time against one of the most hated candidates ever seen. This will be trouble for him.
Even fucking Ben Shapiro says this is true. Trump needs a democratic scandal to draw moderates
Biden/Buttigeg both are white, zero appeal to the brown/black which are the majority of the democrat party base.
BUTTPLUG 2020!
>cucked himself to Jew power more than even oh bummer
>hasn't publicly executed antifa faggots
>hasn't cracked down on this child abusing LGBT Desmond is Amazing bullshit
>hasn't PERSONALLY raked Twitter and Facebook niggers over the coals for CLEARLY breaking the fucking law
>still no fucking wall, the very crux of his campaign in the first place
>"saved America"
Thanks for the tax cuts, Trump, but fuck out of here with that shit.
>bootygig
>doing anything but failing
He can't even get the intersectional vote. Literally nobody wants a gay in the white house.
Biden has a chance to beat Trump.
Bernie will require a downright miracle.
The rest will literally hand Trump another 4 years of presidency.
dang that meme picture really hurt my feels :(
AHAHAHA
>camletoe harris
absolutely fucking NOT op
wwweeewww lad
Tulsi is the best candidate out of the dems, but the far left media really loves to slander her because she's anti war, and her arguments arent "drumpf bad >:("
>Pocahontas or Bob Marley are much less dislikeable
Yes they are. Trump has nothing on them, let alone the decades of propaganda already established against Hillary
Doesn't Trump suck more Jewish cock than any president in history? And where the fuck is the wall with Israel has fucking 2 already? Why do you guys like this piece of shit so much? Seriously, redpill me on the orange man, why do you believe he's anything but a fraud just trying to get himself and his family as much power as possible?
Calling her Pocahontas has probably softened the blow, but everyone knows Warren is a white woman that lied about being a minority to get her position at Harvard. She's as much of a joke as Rachel Dolezal.
Harris is a woman and a minority, which is probably enough to cinch the nomination, but people that know her record know her career was based off of proprietorial misconduct. Sure she's a black woman, but she's also a pig that put her people in jail on bullshit charges or at least that's how many people will see it.
Trump definitely has baggage too. Democrats including former US president Carter are 100% convinced Trump only won the election because of KGB agents. That alone is going to drive their base out. He's also been accused of sexual assault by a number of women that have no chance of proving their claims. The same was true of Bill Clinton, so it dubious if that'll have any appreciable impact at all. Trump's main advantage as the incumbent is that the economy has continued to grow on his watch despite being over a decade past the last recession, his income tax changes hurt the rich in liberal states, but gave everyone else more money, and in all honesty, he hasn't fucked up nearly as much as the democrats said he would. Sure their calling him a nazi for deporting immigrants, but the photo of the kids in "cages" was taken while Obama was in office. Democrats calling Trump a NAZI and calling for open borders are in for a rough time in swing states.
you guys posting about Trump and you apparently missed how he walked through Best/South Korea's DMZ with Kim a couple of hours ago.
this man may be remembered as the one who made the world a considerably less mad, safer place.
>as much power as possible
You've already got as much power as possible when your president of The United States of America. People like him because deregulation and lower taxes spur economic growth putting money in their pockets. People like him because they don't want to pay for other people's healthcare whether those people are citizens or foreigners. People like him because even the most extreme green energy plans will do nothing to sequester greenhouse gasses and as such have no chance of stopping climate change. People like him because practically the whole world is mad at China for their illegal trade practices. People like him because Hillary would have put boots on the ground in Syria and trump has limited himself to some mild saber rattling. I live in New York state and just about 90% of the people I know would become enraged if I mentioned these points to them. A lot of people outright refuse to acknowledge anything he's done correctly. To them, he's a child killer, a rapist, and worst of all, a Republican. I doubt anything could possibly change their minds about him.
YANG GANG 2020
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2016: let's meme trump into office
2020: hello fellow non chinese anons, let us meme the yang gang into the house of whiteness
GER here. From a certain perspective, I hate his guts.
HOWEVER he´s the only leader in the Western worlds with the balls to confront the Red Chinese on their world domination tour.
I wish we in Europe had some spine left...
So while I generally don´t like all the bashing (I mean who prevents the US from adapting German manufacturing structures with good educations and competitive products and fair wages???), I do hope he gets re-elected.
For me personally, Trump is like a necessary disruption of a system which has been run into the ground steadily and without anyone noticing.
So, yeah, I´ll take the crap from him, since he´s following a higher mission for all the western hemisphere. Sorry my own GER-cucks and EU-cucks don´t get that.
Note @self: Fucking PAY more money into NATO, jeeeez we don´t even have proper guns
only here to line his pockets. gives not one fug for you or yours
>that lied about being a minority to get her position at Harvard
Meanwhile Trump lies about his wealth, his education, and is on record as the most dishonest President in history. Nothing of it is carefully crafted political lies, he just shotguns outright falsehoods.
>the economy has continued to grow on his watch
His approval ratings have remained shit in spite of the economic numbers he wants to take credit for, and it's projected to slow down in 2020.
>his income tax changes hurt the rich in liberal states, but gave everyone else more money
bullshit. Twice as many big corporations are now paying zero income tax, and the lower classes paid a net increase due to all the deductions he removed.
>he hasn't fucked up nearly as much as the democrats said he would
Yes he has. All of his flagship issues, from negotiating trade with China, peace in North Korea, the Wall, and repealing and replacing Obamacare have either failed or have no chance of being completed by 2020. Because he's a shit negotiator and has no idea how to rally his own party on key votes.
>but the photo of the kids in "cages" was taken while Obama was in office
It was Trump administration that made the policy of child separation the default, whereas Obama only caged unaccompanied children.
>and lower taxes spur economic growth
That is factually untrue. They were spent on stock buybacks.
Way too early for predictions. I cringe when I think back to all the 2016 prophecies. Politics is ugly...
>Nothing of it is carefully crafted political lies, he just shotguns outright falsehoods.
Unlike Elizabeth Dolezal Warren who carefully crafted her lies to portray herself as a race with "victim status" for her own gain. It's almost like she's the very embodiment of crass exploitation of the identity politics movement.
>bullshit. Twice as many big corporations are now paying zero income tax, and the lower classes paid a net increase due to all the deductions he removed.
I hate to break it to you, but you're wrong. Middle class people only itemize when they're paying tons of interest on home loans. Doubling the standard deduction was a massive tax cut. Only people from states with massive state and local taxes like New York and California were hurt and again, only those with massive mortgages ended up worse off taking the standard deduction. Essentially you're wrong, which isn't surprising. You're just mad that corporations (AKA jobs and the stock market) got a tax break too and that it has worked.
>it's projected to slow down in 2020.
You think it's not about the economy and trust the projections. How'd those projections about the 2016 election work out?
>Yes he has.
No he hasn't. "Literally Hilter" as your ilk call him, was supposed to start world war three, kick everyone off of their insurance plan, cripple the economy, all while implementing a literal genocide of millions of illegal immigrants. None of that happened. I see you chose to completely ignore my point. That's typical for a partisan confronted with evidence. I never said his plans all worked. I said the democrats fucked themselves when they predicted Trump would usher in the apocalypse.
>Obama only caged children
It's almost like Democrats are willfully ignorant of the fact that Obama did the same stuff Trump is doing. Now the deporter in chief has a red lapel pin, so it's literally as bad as the holocaust.
which in turn spurred on the stock market and led to additional investment ultimately resulting in economic growth.
Factually, you have no idea what's happening and just want the government to give you rich people's money. It's incredible that a movement with such a disdain for responsibility and work with roots in theft through taxation can claim moral superiority with a straight face. You want more money, but won't work for it, so you're demanding the government take it from other people and give it to you. It's the height of greed and you play it off like you're the good guy and not a common thief.
>Unlike Elizabeth Dolezal Warren
I don't give a shit. She apologized and showed contrition.
Now show me Trump doing that with the 10,000+ lies he's shitted out as President.
3 million illegals voting in his election, Obama wiring tapping his Tower, how he promised to release his taxes....anything?
His entire narrative is built on a false reality.
>I hate to break it to you, but you're wrong
finance.yahoo.com
>And after refunds, the IRS collected about $93 billion more from individual American taxpayers than it did in 2017. Interestingly, that number stands close to the tax break amount that corporations received from the TCJA in 2018. Last year, big businesses paid $91 billion less in taxes than they had in 2017, prior to the new law’s passage.
>how'd those projections about the 2016 election work out?
>economic forecast =/= election projections
I'd be charitable and assume you're not stupid enough to conflate the two, but literally every conservative seems to be subhuman pond scum operating with a disjointed hodgepodge of unrelated data and conspiracy theories.
>I never said his plans all worked. I said the democrats fucked themselves when they predicted
I'm not really a democrat. I'm apply Trump's own goals as a metric, and he's a mediocrity at best.
> of the fact that Obama did the same stuff
He did not make child seperation the default policy, which John Kelly characterized as a deterrant. The goal of the admistration is to terrorize these people, which Trump made a point of dehumanizing.
>which in turn spurred on the stock market and led to additional investment
everycrsreport.com
>In 2018, gross domestic product (GDP) grew at 2.9%, about the Congressional Budget Office’s (CBO’s) projected rate
published in 2017 before the tax cut. On the whole, the growth effects tend to show a relatively small (if any) first-year effect
on the economy. Although growth rates cannot indicate the tax cut’s effects on GDP, they tend to rule out very large effects
particularly in the short run. Although investment grew significantly, the growth patterns for different types of assets do not
appear to be consistent with the direction and size of the supply-side incentive effects one would expect from the tax changes.
>and just want the government to give you rich people's money
People deserve a better overall quality of life in the wealthiest nation on other.
> It's the height of greed
Is that why wages have been stagnate for 30 years, in spite of worker productivity progressing neatly?
The economy grows and tax revenue increases despite tax cuts and yet you
>don't give a shit
I think that about sums it up. Don't you?
Look I get it. I completely understand where you're coming from. You literally have no idea what's going on in this world, but figuring things out is hard for you because you're an idiot. You made up your mind already anyway. You want open borders, you want rich people's money without working for it, and you're sure Trump's bad because your team and the CIA told you so.
holy fuck, go back to your boomer FB group
>The economy grows
You have not connected the two. You just look at at a number, and say, oh, Trump did that, of course.
> You literally have no idea what's going on in this world
I brought actual sources. You're condescending like everything delusional boomer GOP fuck.
> and you're sure Trump's bad
I only look at all the scumbags he's hired, all the contractors and investors he's ripped off over the decades, and his inexplicable predicilition to suck the dick of every shitbag dictator in the world while starting petty bullshit fights with our allies.
Did you know he cut off money paying the medical bills for his gravely sick nephew during an inheritance dispute with his brother? That's Trump in a nutshell. He's a complete pig with no values or inclination to appreciate anything of substance in the world.
>projected rate
I wonder what they project in 2007 huh? You really lean into their prophecies don't you. I've got some dowsing rods around here you might be interested in purchasing. I've got a bridge to sell you to.
>People deserve a better
Oh I'm so sorry you aren't willing to work hard enough to get what you deserve. I'm sorry getting a k-12 education, HUD payments, medicaid, SSI, need based education grants, food stamps, etc wasn't enough support for you to bother gaining the skills needed to earn the lifestyle you "deserve". Maybe you can just take it from other people.
>Is that why wages have been stagnate for 30 years, in spite of worker productivity progressing neatly
It's almost as if unskilled labor didn't become any more valuable at all and therefore didn't gain power to negotiate higher wages simply because your betters found a way to make your labor more productive. You know what you should do though? Open up the borders and let in millions of immigrants to compete with. You're really going to like what happens to your wage then. Maybe then the unemployed voting block will be high enough you can demand even more of other people's money for unemployment benefits.
>You have not connected the two.
Typical Democrat. They're so sure they deserve other people's money they've completely forgotten that taxes impact the economy.
>I wonder what they project in 2007 huh?
>still not realizing you conflated elections with the economy
Your senility is showing.
P obvious you're gonna ramble about shit regarding positions I don't hold, so eat my ass and have a nice day.
If you weren't stoned from blazing it 4/20 you might remember they didn't see the 08 crash coming. I'm just pointing out that their predictions are essentially worthless. I hope you've enjoyed conceding that you just want other people's money after completely misconstruing everything in my initial post.
yang is really underestimating how much of the population is still in love with the bootstraps theory and see handouts as weak, only a minority of millennials and younger are really excited for that
Yang is actually Republican through and through.
His form of UBI is meant to eliminate the social safety net through inflation. Everyone that gets benefits now will have to compete in the marketplace with everyone else getting benefits. The price of goods will rise, which is fine for the people that got their $1000 tax cut, but everyone on the dole doesn't see an extra dime.
It's actually an incredibly sophisticated troll.
>you might remember they didn't see the 08 crash coming
>if economists were wrong time, they must wrong now
>this is my pivot from initially comparing the 2016 election projections and economic forecasts for 2020
Remember how I said conservatives are subhuman morons?
>I hope you've enjoyed conceding that you just want other people's money
Wanting to improve the quality of life for the country and not promote corporate feudalism, yeah I'm a real asshole that way.
What people like you will never understand is that the 1% want to create the best economy for *them*, and will lobby their massive power to the government to see that done.
All of your horseshit theories are what Europe considered post-WW2, and they elected the path they've taken to avoid the exact problems we face now.
> after completely misconstruing everything in my initial post
I didn't, and you've yet to refute any of my sourced points.
Again, eat my ass.
Did you say you were going? Nope? Can't handle being proven wrong again and again can you?
>Remember how I said conservatives are subhuman morons?
Nice ad hominem. It's almost like you take every prediction that makes your team look right as the word of God and ignore every prediction you don't like. That's pretty clever if you don't care about what's going to happen and just want your team to win.
>Wanting to improve the quality of life for me by giving myself other people's money without working for it.
Yeah, you sound like a real swell guy. Can you justify stealing from people on a personal scale too or just when you've got uncle sam backing you up? Like, do you leave your slum at night and take a bus to the suburbs and burglarize people that have more than you or do you just post moronic shit from your mom's basement?
>you've yet to refute
How's that prediction of the 08 crash coming? Did you refute that yet or are you still trying to figure out how to twist that to your team's side?
>Again, eat my ass.
Remember when the perverts just wanted to be tolerated? Remember when they said they were against rape and cared about consent? Turns out those were lies. Who could have guessed?
>So far it seems it's either Warren or Kamela Harris who'll be facing the Donald
Haha no it'll be Biden and he's actually a threat
Quads say the truth faggot
Economy works based on projected outcomes IF THERE IS NO LOSS OF MARKET CONFIDENCE. Of course innovation and competition matters but lack of confidence will bring 2008 again.Many companies started to move to the U.S. because they thought they were going to save more money in taxes. Places like California just rape your ass with taxes. This is ONE of the reasons the economy is doing better. Trump isnt entirely responsible but he did more than the left would ever admit. Unless theres a reason that the market is seen as unstable it will always rise. And everyone always tries to make the economy the best for themself you literally called heavy taxation making peoples lives better when you know you wouldnt give a shit if those "people" didnt also include you