Why do you support gay people but not transgender? Its called LGBT and not LGB

check 'em

I dont get it. Putting a meat sack tail doesnt magically make it a penis. And drilling holes doesnt make it a vag.

Because being gay is in the nature of men, wanting to mutilate your own dick in order to morph into something you were not meant to morph in is an atrocity an abomination and a mistake.

That's why.

It's the chromosomes and years of development that do

This

Not feeling like your birth gender is in human nature as well. They've already proven male/female brains.

Fuck off, shiteater. I hate whole stupid lgbt movement and all of its even stupid members. I seriously want every everybody who belongs to this rotten to the movement of pedophile shit-eating faggots to eat ground and die. I hate all of these human shit. I shit on your grave. So no, i hate all lgbt shit. Both regular faggots and trannies

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I don't buy that you're part of the community if you were you would be aware that the acronym has changed a lot I think right now it's LGBTQA+

Because gay people do their own thing and leave the rest of us alone. Trannies insist that our lives and our lifestyles need to change to accommodate them and their whims. That’s fucked up so they can fuck off.

I’m gay and I hate that a bunch of freaks with mental illnesses somehow hitched their wagon onto our cause.

Sorry Pat, an obese man in heels and a sundress isn’t a woman

pretty sure homosexuals wouldn't be as a nuisance if they had some fucking hobbies, holy fuck are they annoying.

no sane person support any kind of mental illness

I support cute traps

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I am part of the community, i just shortened it so it's about if you accept the T or not

Exactly, it's now "trans exlusionary" to say "only women get pregnant" or "men don't get periods". The trannies ideology that sex and gender are now different but can't seem to accept that people refer to sex when saying "only womem get pregnant".

There is no "community". Faggots hate dikes, dikes hate faggots, and they both hate trannies.

100% transphobic replies.

fuck this thread

what did you expect, that we blow honey into your ass you fucking faggot

it's a bait thread man. Stop falling for it.
checked

Why support retards that probably won't even live to the age of 30 without offing themselves

Yea Forums is not the random board for gay people, I don't know what you were expecting. Try /bant/ instead.

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Nah man, I recognise a bait when I see one, this obviously isn't bait.

Who said I supported gay people?

3 of my close friends are transgender, and 2 more of my acquaintances are, and I support them all.
This isn't true, male/female brains aren't "proven". There are some variations that occur more often in one gender as opposed to the other, but having female variations as a male is not correlated with being more feminine, let alone transgender.
Even if it starts out as a bait, there are always going to be those that take it seriously. Raising no opposition is doing them a disservice. Replying to a controversial subject isn't a loss, it's a win.

hello, local tranny. im not gonna bother reading all these replies because they all say the same thing but i think theres a middleground thats a acceptable to both sides. a compromise.
i personally dont mind how i look and what genitailia i have. although yes i wish i had the opposite of what i do have, im not gonna end my life over it. im currently on hrt and im transitioning for the sole purpose of me feeling comfortable with how other people perceive me. all i want is for others to address me as a man and thats the main reason im doing this, so i wont have to explain myself to everyone. i have NO plans for any surgeries but i may get my tits chopped off eventually who know. probably not.

the idea of a sex change is very scary and i know about the risks and i wish people didnt feel it necessary. especially with the limits we have with modern technology. if it were easier and less dangerous i wouldnt mind, but trans people are having these surgeries for a glimpse of what its like to have the genitals they want. they dont work or look right and its saddening.

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I do

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>gonna bother reading all these replies
stopped reading, you want us to read all your bullshit but won't read ours so why should we give a fuck.

next.

how compassionate and intelligent you are. ive been in these threads before. they all say the same thing.

Because the T is a mental disorder, not a sexual preference

How dare you talk about Eddie Izzard like that. That man woman could make you look like a mental tard

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I don't support anyone, but myself.

gays just like buttfucking
trannies lop off whatever part of their body they don't like and take heaps of meds but claim to not be mentally ill

you're still mentally ill
seek help instead of mutilating yourself as it won't make you feel better

Im gay i and I like cock
Im a lesbian and i like pussy
Im a bisexual and I like both cock and pussy
Im a transexual and I like.... I like, umm... I dont like my penis!!!

This ain't your safe space. We have actual arguments here. Whether they're baited, legitament, or autistic screeching. Dont come here unless you can firmly stand you're ground and not get emotional over your beliefs.

thanks for reading thoroughly dipshit

>transphobic
I feel disgust, not fear

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>how compassionate and intelligent you are
>im not gonna bother reading all these replies

If anyone asks about the definition of cognitive dissonance I've screen capped this for future reference

You took my male/female brain bait

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Send selfie.

you dont seem to understand. there is not a single original thought in all of these replies. i have used my critical thinking skills and context clues to figure out that everyone here has worms in their brain and they all say the same things. i am using my past experiences on this website to expertly deduce xd that this is just all the same. you think im trying to be mean but im just trying not to waste time.

i still look female im not comfortable sending one

under your chin is the best place for the barrel. Bye

it still thinks I'm reading its block of bullshit lmao.

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>"H-Hey! I'm n-not like the other trannies! I don't wanna gouge out my vagina! L-Look I'm cool and different, right?"
Get help.

>I’m transsexual and I like men with vaginas and women with dick
There you go you tard

arent transsexuals and transvestites two different things

whats even the point of being a tranny
if you want to look masculine then look masculine, if you want to look feminine then look feminine
why the fuck would you cut your dick off?

why the fuck are you talking to me if you wont read what i say whats wrong with you. youre not the bigger person or cool youre just being annoying

It's okay anons. This particular board isn't the place to win hearts and minds. Yea Forums is too fast and shitpost centric to get real discussion except for those who have hot-word alert scripts. Everyone's either radicalized or wholly uninterested. The best you can do is to drop a video to contrapoints and run.

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People can be gay and trans but if you are one of those ultra-fairy faggots who act like flamboyant drag queens, or are one of those trying-hard-to-look-like-the-opposite-gender hulk looking fucks who scream rape and then have a mental breakdown because "the bad white male cis" called you dude instead of ma'am you can piss right off and die in a pit of snakes.

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You know the browser you’re using also has a search engine

>bait
It's funny how your bait is indistinguishable from common ignorance/misunderstanding. It makes me think, either you don't know what bait is, or you're actually just kinda dumb. Because I was never mad, I just prompted you to do a little due diligence. Or, were you baiting me into helping you research? Are you a failing college student unable to use Google and desperately seeking help through carefully planted bait? Or, do you think that calling what isn't bait bait is actually bait? Because if so, see my first point.

okay im curious about this. what do i get help with? every therapist ive been to has been very supportive of my decisions and no professional has tried to stop me. do you want me to contact the church? do you still believe in that stuff? how old are you?

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Contrapoints based af

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thank u i love u kiss muah muah

Ouch ya got me. Right in the meme. So clever user

That’s a fact. The worst tranny abuse I’ve seen on Yea Forums is on the LGBT board! Way worse than anything said on Yea Forums

yeah, not really interested, just wanted to start an argument

post tranny suicide statistics

Basically this.

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Kys you sad lonely soul

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What are you even doing on this board

>haha trannies all kill themselves!
>/thread
wow i sure do wonder if these things are related! a real pickle!

Because it intellectually insults me and for that i am willing to persecute and denigrate them.

test

You mean how they kill themselves not because of the transition but because family, friends, and society hate them. About how they kill them selves cause faggots like yourself like to scream that they are mentally ill and should kill themselves and you celebrate the suicide numbers?

no one ever said it wasn't related
its natural selection
helps keep the gene pool clean

I've been here since 07 and there hasn't been a day since where I haven't asked that very question. Then again I'm mostly a shitposter and a loli connoisseur so that's probably the answer you're looking for.

they are mentally ill though
I don't know whats so hard to understand about how lopping off a part of your body you don't like is not healthy

>gene pool
theyre not reproducing, faggot

I accept you for who you are, why cant you?

Nice bait :pepecomfy:

Add me on kik

no one has ever thought they were trans, "got proper help" instead of transitioning, and not regretted it

What's it like not getting haircuts?

amen

trannies are artificial

thats powerful
"intellectually insulted"
"call me dumb for not playing along"
I feel it

Heh, joke's on you, I've been here since 04

So you said "I'm not gonna read but here's something we can agree on, as a compromise: I want to be a man but am fine in a woman's body and might chop my tits off. I just don't know enough about a sex change to know if I could get one or not. I'm uncomfortable because I don't feel myself".

>TLDR: HEY GUYS LISTEN, ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME, DON'T YOU AGREE?!

I'm open to discussion. If you want to be a man, then be a man. I don't have to like it or understand the specifics of its "disability" (disability as in inability to feel comfortable), and I think we can agree that haters have no business hating. You're not hurting them, so why should they hurt you?

My opinion on if it's "right" or not doesn't matter. Just make a better argument that's not so selfish next time.

not if you keep telling them its ok to do this shit

So you go around calling plastic surgery patients mentally ill too right? People who get rhinoplasty should die and off themselves huh?

I'm so sorry for you. Is there anything I can do to help?

>cutting hair is the same as cutting off your fucking dick and sewing it back up into some mockery of a "vagina" that needs to have a dildo in it or else it seals itself back up as a wound should
you people are fucking insane

I think if you read the replies, most are saying that we don’t care how you get off sexually if you don’t force us to join in. But expecting other people to address you like a man is forcing us to join in. Leave us alone and let us do our own thing. Your insecurities are for you to deal with, not us.

Because originally it was LGB. It was about sexuality and sexual liberation. Transfaggotry was irrelevant. Unless you finally admit transgenderism is a fetish larping as an identity, you are completely missing the point of LGB by shoehorning a mental illness into it.

You think anorexics don't regret getting "proper help" over reaching their ideal body?

at least they dont think they're becoming women lol

plastic surgery is for insecure whores

you dumbasses keep saying get help which is really ironic because any credible therapist will tell them to transition

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I do, still trans without surgery or hormones. I pass 98% of the time and live happily with my partner of 10 years. Maybe if you accepted yourself you’d stop hating others for their life decisions and could find your own happiness instead

This.

I don't judge and i don't support cause well they should support theyselves just cause that's just the way of the world.

confirmed

This is madness...

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>I pass 98% of the time
post face with timestamp
if you don't then your statement is moot

No tranny ever passes.

reminder that doing this to yourself is totally normal and just like cutting your hair

i tried giving an example. i didnt really proofread it but i appreciate you not being a total ass about it.
i basically meant that bottom surgery is understandable to hate about but hormones arent damaging and should be more accepted. trans people shouldnt worry too much about their genitals or whatever bc no ones gonna see that. they should just be able to feel like the gender they want and thats it. just kinda blend in and feel normal.

That's the only good thing about them.
But wait until they can legally adopt a child.

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you can transition and keep your cock if you want

a trans having a sex change is like an anorexic getting liposuction

im not hating, im just saying its a mental disorder. Like depression. Like anxiety. Like bi-polar disorder. It just happens to be tied to sex so it gets a free ticket into the LGBT community.

Facts are so inconvenient when agendas need to be pushed

Any therapist worth his salt would attempt to treat the underlying mental issues first.

You miss the point. You can do whatever the fuck you want, but you cannot expect my taxes to pay for it or for there to be laws that state that I can't think you are all fucked in the head. Because you are. All fucked in the head. But you have the right to be fucked in the head. And your rights end there.

stonewall was started by black trans women

No, they think they’re becoming “beautiful”. At least people who transition are doing it for themselves and mental state and not cause society thinks their nose is too ugly or boobs too small. Or the manlets that get leg surgery cause they think it’s the true reason they can’t get pussy
Whores come in both genders

credible therapy is dead
therapists are pressured into playing along and not allowed to suggest that these things are misleading, on risk of losing their jobs?
do you not realize what a problem you are

They have to do that in based japan, otherwise they’ve got no rights

>executive transvestite

This

I don't even hate trans people I just feel sorry for their delusional beliefs that getting surgery and hormones can turn them into the opposite sex. I can't bring myself to hate them. Whenever I see one of them, all I feel is pity.

You did not "pass" anything else than the thin line between being a member of society or the first cutting-edge prototype of self-abortion before actual cyborgs spawn up.
The man which successfully deceived you into thinking you "passed" for their tastes were either desperate or fucking gay to start with, the only difference is they are morally even lower than you because they cannot come out of the closest and are ashamed of what they are just as you are, but more midly.

Pick up all the pieces, then load a fat one and blow it up. If only there was a way to turn back.

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I love you

*closet, hilarious typo there, sorry.

that would be reasonable and good and ok
but there are too many white knights, complete idiots who think they're fighting for good and just ruining society by promoting ignorance, existing as the problem without even realizing it

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wanting to be addressed properly isnt a game that people have to be "in " on. its not a hard task or anything. when people irl address me wrong i dont correct them because thats the way they perceive me. i am working on being perceived different so its less of a game. just do whatever you want, i dont care.

Trans is just body modding of the future. Technology was always going to facilitate this. It’s not going to stop there either. The future is going to be a cybernetic gender bending freak show and frankly I’m all for it. We are no longer constrained by random evolutionary parameters. We can design ourselves to be as we wish. There is nothing wrong with this.

Well good doctors are hard to find, after all it's psychologists (Who aren't really science people) who made up and endorse this whole mess and "gender studies" If you can't accept what you were born as, how dare you demand us to accept you. This isn't an MMO where you get to pick and customize your character, and the sole thought of wanting EVERYONE to recognize you as something you aren't is incredibly selfish, decieving and immoral. You're just like a mythomaniac, wanting to drag us into your world of lies. Whatever "research" you bring up is completely irrelevant because it's made up info by "professionals".

Sure let me out myself on b
You think that but I promise you’ve met some and never noticed. You think people look at buck angel and think “that’s totally a tranny”
You know your taxes pay for all sorts of things you hate you know, but I’m not even talking taxes. I’m not medically transitioning. Think I’m fucked if you want but I’ll consider you a disrespectful ass. That’s your right

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okay so youre insane

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which if anything you just said was actually true I think that'd be fine with most people.

tucking your dick inside your ballsack and calling it a vagina doesn't change your fucking chromosomes, it doesn't allow you to have a child, it doesn't change your gender constructed brain or your gender constructed body.

You aren't going to tuck your nutsack away and expect me to call you mam. Go kill yourself.

lmao by doing what?

Therapists are part of the problem here. It’s just a job, you know that right? Like any job, they do whatever they can to get through the job as easy as they can. The highest priority as a therapist is to stop your client from suiciding. Anything after that is a bonus. Obviously they hope their clients will lead full and happy lives, but as long as the client survives, that’s a win for them.
As long as you’re not hurting anyone else, they’ll tell you anything to make you happy enough that suicide is no longer on your mind. Anything.
They’re not meant to be oracles that you listen to and gain life-long wisdom from, like some religion or something. Their job is to literally stop people from suiciding. That’s all.

You think I consider myself passing cause one person says so? The problem is you had to make a bunch of assumptions and you were wrong on all accounts. Thanks for trying

Tell me how it isn't. You're cutting a body part to stylize your appearance in order to conform to societal norms. People who have unkempt hair and beards are shunned as examples of poor hygeine. People who shave it completely off are considered either basket cases or ideologically dangerous.
Credible therpists recognize the suicide rate for HRT treated trannies is lower than untreated trannies. Effectiveness in treatment supercedes any concern for "treatment purity", as seen with the still unexplained effects of Lithium in Bipolar patients.
You can't tell someone to get help if the help's dead.

because gays are actually useful un society, even though they are freaks if nature. Trans people only whine and kill themselves.

>Like any job, they do whatever they can to get through the job as easy as they can
this guy works minimum wage

Of course, the fields of psychology and psychiatry are completely useless and full of quacks.

thats fucking horrifying
no he's absolutely right
you're the one with no grip on reality, if you think promoting this shit is ok
cant figure out how to fix yourself?

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okay so youre just stupid
of course there are therapists who just sit and listen for money but everyone ive went to has genuinely helped and made me do things i didnt want to do for my own good? have you ever been to a therapist? are you one of those people who think youre the only sapient person in the world and youre smarter than everyone? youre obviously very stupid

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I just don't care if you're gay, lesbian, or bisexual. I'll treat you the same way as everyone. I don't hold them on a higher platform.

>>This isn't an MMO where you get to pick and customize your character,

Not the same user, but actually it is. At least it will be soon, more accurately. We still have some limitations on medical technology that create obstacles for people who want to change what sort of gender cues they project but that won’t always be the case. You will be alive for a future where a trans person will be outwardly indistinguishable from anyone else. This isn’t going to go away just because you find it uncomfortable.

imagine if a therapist actually told you to face your problems
imagine how dead you would be

This

always love this argument.

Check (((wikipedia))) on gender disphoria. There is a small trube in i dia where transgers are 100 % accepted, the suicide rate? Still 40 %. So the nit accepting thing is not the reason. It probably has to do with the despression that comes with gender disphoria

See Yeah actually. You’lol be calling them man having no idea about their personal history. You won’t be forced, to simply wont be able to tel soon. Sorry that bothers you. It must suck to suck.

theres nothing wrong with me? im not going through any surgeries i just wanna look different. i know how to 'fix myself' and im working on it.
youre insane too. you think people arent professionals because you dont like what they say.

the type of people in this thread are the reason that trans people kill themselves
Imagine you live your whole life hating the way you look, then you finally go to a therapist for help and transition and you're finally happy for once. For the first time, you feel like yourself... *then* people tell you that you have a mental disorder and you need help.
Just let people do what makes them happy

They change their body because they hate themselves. That’s why they suicide too.
Happy people who like themselves just cannot be abused by others in such a way that makes them want to commit auicide. Because they’re happy people who like themselves, nothing anyone else says about them matters to happy people.

Respect is earned, not given. You are no more a member of the opposite sex than a schizo is Napoleon or Jesus Christ. "Disrespectful" how about go fuck yourself.

Like YOU are the one being intellectually affronted here. This is how far gone you mental cases are and this is how far we've let you go. You now believe that disagreeing that you objectively truthfully are whatever you feel you are is an intellectual affrontery.

Difficult to believe this was typed by a person over 18. Thought you reach an iq threshold by then

>gender is what you feel

As I said before go kill yourself, sex and gender are the same thing you retard and your no citations tumbler picture doesn't change that.

yeah, and it has nothing to do with what is written here

Nice cherry picked data bro

lmao you're taking this shit serious and get butthurt over it, topkek

Same, it’s like women, as long as they’re pretty we support them

>hurr durr humans arent prone to depression and ptsd even while living happy lives hurr

Why pay 50 bucks an appointment when lobster-dad Peterson sells a book for fifteen that does the same thing?
>Using cherry picked data from the land of designated shitting streets
Ebin.

> actual accepted trans people
> cherry picked data

explain how it didn't proof that ut has nothing to do with being accepted?

you're already lost
someone told you this trash was legit and now you're part of it
but someday they're going to expose how fundamentally flawed transgenderism is
there's a thousand better ways to live than like that
you failed to accept yourself
you ran away from yourself
you became something less
"congrats"

facing your problems is more than taking pills and getting surgery, fool

give me a list of flaws, joker.

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You seem real buttmad. Respect is earned and if you’d choose to think of me as a freak for personal decisions that don’t effect you, you’ve lost my respect. Treating someone rudely for being trans is disrespectful, whether you approve of trans people or not.
Let me tell you something, trans people don’t think they’ll actually magically become the opposite gender. I personally don’t need the ‘right’ genitalia and I don’t woe over my ‘wrong’ chromosomes. I just want people to perceive me as the opposite sex, and they do. Show some common decency, and we have no problem

I support them if they are cool. If they are spaz's fuck em. I feel the same about race. If you act like your own stereotype than you are your own stereotype. But if you are cool, you cool. So basically I exclude race or sexual orientation completely

Have you tried asking science about that? Google is right there

No you're right it's perfect.

comon sense

The same reason you can’t say ‘see gun restrictions work in Australia so they’d work in America!’

As if I give a flying fuck about your respect for me. You are fucked in the head, remember?

Agreed. Where are you confused?

You’ll never get common decency from people that never had and never will have any. There simply isn’t any point in imploring savages to behave better.

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why should I have to accept people who cannot accept themselves?

>They disagree
>They must be savages

I like other men I don't want to chop my dick off.

Why would I ever kill myself. Being better than you is awesome.

You’re being disrespectful because YOU think I’m fucked in the head. You like this in person? Cause if you’re single and wonder why I’ve got an answer for you, you’re rude.
You can think tipping is dumb and not do it but it only makes you look like an ass

setting the bar kinda low, eh?

Except most mtfs are lesbians.

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Aw user, why do done on yourself? Is this why you spend time insulting and hating others on the internet? To escape your own self loathing?

Nope, not single. You actually don't know anything about me, and I don't care to know anything about you. Transgenderism is a mental illness and the more you fucks sperg out that it's not the more pushback you are going to get.

Now shut up about respect, you sound black.

I’m better than a lot of people actually. It’s rare for me to find anyone capable of thinking outside the parameters of right wing programing. Most people are just software.

Even if I perceived you as initially, which would never happen, the moment I found out what your gender actually was your pronoun will be locked in. Males are males and females are females.

I consider myself very open-minded but one thing I don't like is lies.. which is what you're trying to do. You want to refute reality to force other people to adhere to your beliefs and get mad/upset when they don't.

I have my own type of dysmorphia... but do I go around pretending to be something I'm not then get all pissy when people see the truth? Nope.

okay so youre insane

Being obstinate about refusing to smooth over relations in public is one of the hallmarks of savagery friend.

Tranny should kill themselves

>uhuhuhu how shameful you are
bro what the fuck are you talking about this is what i mean. im just chillin

Within your perceptual limitations I am sure it seems that way and you cannot be convinced otherwise. Science looks like sorcery to the ignorant.

Talking about respect sounds black? I don’t know anything about you just as you don’t know me, but out of the two of us you’re the one that sounds mental

You start off by saying it’s not a game, then you end by saying you’ll dress more masculine so that you win the game. Wtf user?
Look, it’s not a game. It’s also none of our business how you dress. It’s none of our business how you want to be perceived. It’s none of our business how you would like to be addressed. None of those aspects of our lives are our business. And none of them are our problems either. And how we feel about your life choices are not your problem either, how we feel about anything has got nothing to do with you. Just like how you feel about anything has got nothing to do with us.
That’s all true and valid. Your life, your choices.
But if that’s true, then our lives are none of your business too. It’s none of your business how we address you. And it’s none of your business how we perceive you. That’s the crucial failing in some of the current trans activism. You’re trying to make your life choices our business. It’s not any of our business. And we don’t want to play any part in it. We have our own shit to deal with. Taking on your problems and walking on eggshells around you to avoid offending you is offensive to us. Because how you live your life is none of our business. And as such, how you want to be perceived is none of our business and it’s not our problem. Pushing your problems into others is always going to be met with a reaction that is either indifference, abusive, or derogatory. Because pushing your problems into other people in the first place is indifferent to how they feel, it’s abusive, and it’s derogatory.
Just do your own thing and stop worrying about what others think. Stop forcing us into being part of your life choices, and definitely stop shaming people who don’t subscribe to your worldview when they react to being forced to be part of your life choices and think “Hang on, this is your life choice, it’s got nothing to do with me so please leave me out of your life choices”.

This
>Based and sage

someones been feeding you some fuck shit and it seemed cool and edgy so you went along with it and you feel smart because youre wrong? okay.
the way i see it is that you noticed that no one else thinks like you and you confused it for being ascended when really youre just autistic

This reminds me of Ben Shapiro and the time he regurgitated this same shit but then kept calling Laverne Cox her and she and then correcting himself to the wrong pronoun
Fucking moron

I am smarter than you. Transgenderism is an aspect of a larger concept called transhumanism. The body and the consciousness are not inexorably linked.

Lesbianisn = normal

Homosexuals = normal

Straight = normal

CUTTING YOUR FUCKING COCK OFF AND CUTTING A HOLE IN YOUR PELVIS AND THEN SHOVING YOUR SEWN UP BALL SACK UP SAID HOLE AND TAKING HORMONE BLOCKERS TO GROW BREASTS = NOT NORMAL

Nope. I'm fucking sick of it. I'm sick of all of it. The Emperor's got no clothes here and zero fucks are given in calling it out. NOBODY is doing you any favours whatsoever by allowing you to labour on in your disillusions. All your "allies" don't actually give a fuck about you either otherwise you'd think there's be a bit more pause and give it some critical thought before we put knives into the hands of people with mental disorders. The Jesus Christ schizo may drown himself thinking he can walk on water, too.

Here we go.

Cyborgs incoming

I’m going out on a limb here but, are you miserable?

Why are you on Yea Forums

stop repeating what already wrote i a more polite and less retarded way.

This attitude also needs to stop. "You don't agree with me? Oh, you poor thing"

You idiots aren't enlightened.

youre thinking like someone being trans is gonna gut you with a rainbow knife or something so you get their pronouns right. thats not what im trying to say, im trying to PREVENT it from being anyones business. if trans people just all passed then people would address them correctly without a second thought. its all passive. im trying to think of whats easiest. if a trans person was not allowed to transition, then they'd always have to correct people. THATS making it their business. if their preferred gender is plain to see then theres none of that. im not trying to win anything. youre thinking like a crazy person

Loving the little cock sucker known as Ben Shapiro is not a requirement to enjoying b

Do you actually think they aren’t? Do you really think the advent of virtual and augmented reality isn’t the early stages of this? Are you really this dense?

Oh it's not that I just wish you'd go back to tumblr

This has nothing to do with not agreeing. It’s all your writing style, thought process, and views. And I’m sensing misery

the fuck are you on about. whats your iq. how old are you. do you have a girlfriend.

Who made you the fucking King Nigger of Yea Forums? I'll post what the fuck I fucking want you disgusting piece of non-human transgender GARBAGE

Oh, are you OFFENDED? GOOD! I'd wish death upon you, but the stats say you're going to kill yourself anyways pretty soon. SO y'know I still win either way,

fucking nigger pedophile cock sucking satanic demon piece of FILTH

Rrrrraghhhh

What he said had nothing to do with Ben Shapiro. Stop trying to turn this into a right wing thing.

None of that would be relevant. You’re too simple to understand what you’re rebelling against, which is why it isn’t working.

>you have morals so you must be a sjw tumblrina
Tumblr got rid of porn so I guess I’m here to stay

>The current medical treatment for people with gender dysphoria is transitioning to the preferred gender.

Because the screeching feminists got anyone reasonable fired.

Get feminism out of our institutions NOW.

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>this guy is too good to work for minimum wage
Oh wow, you trannies really are the respectful ones, aren’t you? Imagine degrading someone due to their wages, what kind of right-wing monster are you? Even the Republicans would respect a minimum wage worker for actually having the balls to get up everyday and go to work. But you? You are an asshole who believe working for minimum wage is shameful? What a fuckng prick, not everyone gets born with a silver spoon in their mouth, you trustfund douche!

If only we could all be as serene and emotionally mature as a tranny.

Morals hahahahahahahahahahHHHhHHHzjmcmfmd. Nckfkclgndbxj

>This has nothing to do with not agreeing.
>It’s all your writing style, thought process, and views

>your views
>the way you think
>This has nothing to do with not agreeing

mentally fucking deranged

He asked why I was on b after insulting an user about Ben Shapiro. Wasn’t a difficult leap

>im not gonna end my life over it.

statistics say otherwise

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im not trying to do any ad hominem bs. im trying to see if youre sane. if your iq is low and youre over 30 with no gf then you are insane and saddening.
this isnt for the sake of humiliating you. im trying to see if youre worth listening to.

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IM ANGERY 2 GOD FUCKING DAMN IT

Okay then, what the hell do you suggest as "proper help"?

I’m doing pretty well but that long rant smells of self loathing

It was an incorrect leap as I am him and it had nothing to do with that.

Why so bigoted?

I know right? Forgeign things can seem funny

Future mass shooter confirmed. Hey fbi. Get an ip on this one

>Even the Republicans would respect a minimum wage worker

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it's insane how this is real.
"they" feel enlightened. Backed up by science, it's true, and I never oppose to science, too bad it's not about science, because science is a tool humanity uses to improve itself, it should not be a tool to dismantle the way the human being has evolved in millions of years of evolution.

And that's not the point in any case, it's a social matter, not a scientific one. We all know it's doable. I also have forever in the eyes the pictures of the surgery, and I could literally puke even by just typing this.

The point is that this is not evolution, this is mere social inapcettance, MASSIVE like in any other case, about something that also comes in too tiny numbers to be a real worrifying thought in the people's mind, but it def should be.
It's not even the old slippery slope trick because fuck it, I assume almost everybody is over 18 in here.

What could this bring us to? Do we really want to make so that nature cannot even fail anymore? Do we really want to open ourselves to a world of things so repulsive to the critical masses that is debated in such fashion on this board?

Is this the time to allow this? I personally do not believe so. So many issues about suicide rates, so many child that cannot have their normal lives back.
I don't even give a fuck about it because we're on /b it's stupid to come here and preach against degeneracy in the first place.
But I just cannot take this timeline seriously. I mean, just no. It's too much for me. Just, no. I'll probably go far from the cities and join the hillibillies. At least they can cook.

You read a laugh and thought it was anger? That explains a lot.

>im not trying to do any ad hominem bs
>your iq is low and youre over 30
>you are insane
>and saddening
>im trying to see if youre worth listening to
How come trans niggers are always so unaware?

The cringe thread is generally at page 7 or so.

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>The repubes are the ones respectful to minimum wage workers
Pay no attention to how they bust unions and are complicit in wage stagnation.

Your viewpoint and your opinion are two different things. I’m not talking about wether we agree. I’m talking about your perspective. Your viewpoint. The lens giving you the opinion I disagree with. Can you keep up?

On testosterone, a trans man's clit becomes a penis. From their the doctors just reroute where piss goes

ive been on so many watch lists whats 1 more? kek i hope somebody actually rapes and tortures you while youre walking to your car later you fucking piece of shit

spreading disease and your mental illness to children like the pedophile demon you are

I don’t know my Iq, I’m 31 and married to a woman, though there is no effective way to prove any of that. I’m not going to post my wife of Yea Forums. None of that is a measure of “sanity”. The local interpretation of sanity is not fixed.

My bad. I’m on b cause I like it. Why so aggressive?

>implying im serious
>not seeing the obvious sign of shitposting
Get a load of this fucking reditor

If they were truly happy, they’d be mentally stable, what anyone else says to them could not make them turn to suicide because they’d be a happy and stable person.
Whereas, if they’re insecure, self-hating, and unhappy, how other people treat them can make them feel worse. Because they’re unstable, unhappy with their life.
That’s the important point here: the transitioning didn’t make them a happy person, it was a bandaid for their mental issues. They had unaddressed issues surrounding self worth, body disphoria, and who knows what else.

It's lgbt. Queer is a slur. Asexuals aren't part of the community. We don't see the black community calling themselves the nigger community and I don't see latinos being part of it either

>Your viewpoint and your opinion are two different things
LOL Holy fuck. You are legit dumb as fuck.

I’m a different user, I’m not trans. I am male and married to a woman. Nobody is going to rape me without losing a lot of blood and pieces of themselves in the process.

There are no morals being discussed here. You don't even understand the word.

You might as well have been typing about any society hated thing. Books, movies, blacks, gays. Trans is just the next thing and your the close minded half of the generation resisting change

>asexuals are not part of the community

Asexuals probably are those who just gave up, and being smart and feeling no need to reproduce whatsoever, actually found peace and joy in their sexless lives.

I envy them.

Transgenderism and transhumanism are both forms of body modding, but transgenderism is not related to transhumanism. Transhumanism aims to technologically enhance and upgrade the human form, whereas transgenders merely want to change their appearance to match their identities.

>Queer is a slur
Get a load of this faggot. I bet you don't even know what the hard R rule is.

>TrAnS iS cUtTiNg EdGe Of SoCiEtY

that's no very inclusive of you

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then i hope your children get raped and your wife gets raped by a pack of feral niggers from the congo with aids+ebola

i hope you have to watch it 2

seeing all the nigger semen dripping for your kids and wife mutilated pussies

maybe youll lick some of it up?:D

In the states, maybe it's the next thing.
Such abominable efforts are failing miserably in europe, from where I am from. I'll just keep looking at you like I look at chimps when at the zoo, the difference is that I like to feed them, but I would give to you 0 peanuts either.

you have to be 18+ to use this website

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I don't remember there being any asexuals killing pigs at Stonewall so

It’s tangentially related. I would argue it falls into the human directed evolution aspect. For example, if heavy genetic modification comes into play we could make new genders entirely with both sets of genitalia that are functional. Technology isnt just cyberspace and coding. Medical technology counts.

Types like a fantasy you get off to often. Seek help. You need a therapist more than the trannys

okay so you're worth listening to, youre just an old bitch.
i envy your wife, it must be a riot to see her husband fuming at the computer for 6 hours a day.
jokes aside, you're looking too deep into things. im not entirely sure what you mean but theres no significant overlap with transfolk and people who have some sort of spirit animal or whatever they call it. this might be really misinformed so disregard it if im talking nonsense but i think your worst threat is furries and theyre not hurting anyone.

>>I’m totally not a savage though.

Right...

he spoke.

become asexuals and shrug your shoulders about everything in here.

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I've never heard of one. Go ahead, educate me

check'd

I'm also a sexual and I confirm your theory, I gave up at some point, have no sex drive, and I'm not depressed or anything, I just enjoy life, without sex

im fukking jerking my chicken right now m8 mmmph
i am for you big boy

come sit on my fence post while i decide which power tool to use on your already mutilated body

I literally wish to be you atm.
I'm suffering a lot because of a bitch. Can't stop thinking about her pussy 24/7.

Enjoy it lad, you were dealt the right hand after all.

small reminder that asexuals are not people with a lack of sex drive but rather people who are not sexually attracted to others. they can have a sex drive and jack off but they just cant get turned on by people

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I don’t want to fuck a tranny on accident

I only support the T insofar as they act as cute cocksleeves

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Stop lying nigger

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I don’t know how furries got it this. They don’t really bother me either. Life is too short to waste it on other people’s perceptions of what you should be wasting it on. Have sex, do drugs, wear fur suits. All the same to me really.

The differences between "Nigga" and "Nigger" is well documented. Intent, context, and delivery is core to them. The same situation applies to bitch, cuck, and queer.

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How old are you?
They do great work, but you can’t be so naive about therapy and therapists. Of course they’re trying their best. They’re trying to make you happy enough to not kill yourselves. They obviously can’t identify any other mental illnesses that can be cured, or managed, so the only recourse left is to make you feel happy with yourself. If you had a treatable mental health illness, they’d diagnose you with that and treat it as best they could. But you don’t have anything wrong with you, you’re just insecure about your body and unhappy with your life. If you insist to them that you’re actually the opposite gender and that transitioning will be the one thing that’ll make you happier than ever, what do you expect them to do? Risk making you unhappy by levelling with you like “Listen honey, what you just said is bullshit. You’re not a man, you’re just sad and unhappy with your life, and maybe a bit depressed because you don’t like how your body looks right now.” Fuck no. If you’re legit a suicide risk, being that upfront risks you taking them up the wrong way, and proceeding to suicide instead of making the effort required to get your self esteem and body image back to where it should be for you to lead a long healthy life in full pride if your innate femininity. It’s much easier to go “Yep, ok, and you’re sure this’ll make you happy?”, then sign you up for hormones and pat you on the back as you walk out of their office. Another life saved from suicide.
I’m being blunt here. And it’s probably not nice for you to read that therapists are not sage monks sent here to save us all.
I hardly think they’d actually admit any of that publicly because let’s face it, their goal is to stop people from suiciding, if they publicly admitted being even a bit cynical, they risk a situation where genuinely at-risk people who could genuinely benefit from their services, might be put off from seeking them out.

Fags like you are the real issue.
You're a desperate excuse for a man to begin with, so you give credit (and your repulsive tiny dick) to these abomination, making them believe they could "pass" for women. After countless fucks in the cars and in the bushes where men like you hide, they convince themselves they may as well become girls, because there are people like you willing to fuck them as if they were.

You're a neglectable stain on the name of every men, straight or homosexuals. Straight people just want to fuck girls, maybe they become incels or whatever, but they do not have the heart to degrade themselves to your levels only to fuck. They pref not to.

Homosexual people, and I respect them, just want to feel what they like to feel. They've been around at ancient greek and roman times, they always existed, it's absolutely normal being gay and enjoy fucking in every way it makes you feel good, as long as you stay yourself and don't downgrade to a slimy lurker in search of deranged situations with these creatures.

You're the real scum of earth and I wish to YOU the evil things most wish to these poor guys, whom I feel sad for mostly. Their problem is You.

Fuckin cumrag. Off yourself.

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The T doesn't even correlate to the other 3 letters and should be removed. L G and B are sexuality issues. T is something else entirely.

Ok so what IS the proper treatment. I've been to therapy, taken antipsychotics, antidepressants, mood stabilizers, etc. I've done every single "gatekeeping" runaround that's been pushed my way and nothing ever changed a thing. Don't get me wrong, I have absolutely no desire to be transgender. It's a nightmare that I'd give anything to wake up from.

this

i understand where youre coming from, i really do. and you do seem to genuinely care. especially compared to others here. but the situation youre describing doesnt apply to every case. im going to use myself as an example. im very happy with my body and i dont want to change it. i find myself attractive. i didnt decide to be trans overnight, ive just felt off when lumped together with girls for a long time. my whole life. maybe it is an illness, but what im doing isnt harmful. no one should have any problem with transfolk like me taking hormones so theyre perceived different. most effects are reversable and the only possible complications are being more at risk to conditions that their 'goal' is susceptable to (ex: trans men become more likely to get heart problems).

as long as a trans person warns you before you decide to fuck them, theres no problem, right?

Nobody is saying that. Their job is important to our society.
Their job is diagnosing and treating people with mental illnesses and intervention and prevention of suicide. That’s all.
The tactics they use to achieve those goals are merely tools of the trade. The current tool for patients with body dysmorphia is HRT, partly because it’s quick and hassle free. But really, it’s clear that treating the underlying self esteem issues would be more beneficial given how many transitions result in suicide.

What about the people who very definitely aren't pedophiles? Why is it ok to generalize one diverse group of people but not another? If I say all black people are thieves, that's considered racist but if someone says that all trannies are drag queens and pedophiles, I'm supposed to just accept that? What if someone unironically told you all white people are nazis? If you're white you'd probably argue that it isn't true.

I agree 100%, but how do you justify the highest suicide rates among every other position on the spectrum? There must be a correlation in that.

Also, could you speak about the implication of the role of transfolk in society? Are people supposed to be ok if you, for instance, have a degree and can teach in elementary schools? Why should people not instantly correlate the desire of teaching to the desire of connecting children to the wire of awareness about the sexual thing you represent, while somebody could argue children should never even know about you until they grow enough to form a coherent personal opinion about it without bias?

Pls answer, I wanna know.

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>...to get your self esteem and body image back to...
You got so close to the truth of the situation, but then went off in the wrong direction here. The general consensus in the psychiatrist community is that body image was fucked to begin with, and that it's fundamentally impossible to fix this issue with psycho-therapy as it's neurological in nature. It might be theoretically possible to solve it with advanced enough brain surgery in the far off future, but that's an ethical pandora's box that nobody is allowed to open until state actors can be trusted. Given this information, the only thing that is left in this era is pure coping. Bring the body in line to match with the mind as best as possible in hopes that it solves negative symptoms, and leave the patient being merely considered neuro-atypical like ADHD and aspbergers patients.

I don't support Most trannies as its all just a cesspool of mental illness and body dysmorphia not to mention the lgbt Community is becoming more and more more regressive with shit like "trans women are real women" and all that non logical bs, it honestly doesnt look good for the trans community rn and possibly the future especially if more and more is going down this regressive mind path I dont usually have a problem with the lbgt but when you start to force your way into everything and label people names for not agreeing with you is when shit goes too far

Darwinism and natural selection the world isn't all sunshine and rainbows especially when you and your mentally I'll kind are the very small minority

suicide

Kek
you mad

>Unironically supporting social darwinism

Making your lips bigger is not the same as trying to change an entire fucking gender

>random selfie vs 200 pictures and 1 picked from the lot and photoshopped

tranny photos are just the next step of myspace angles

Seeing yourself as better than someone else is a symptom of unaddressed mental health issues. Please get checked out and be honest with them about how you feel like you’re better than people you disagree with.

I love how the whole tranny thing is so big a deal for everyone. There's so few of them; I've never met a tranny out on the town, and I'm fucking gay and in a huge city. Everything about it being in the public eye is strange.

i feel like lgbt people have some form of ptsd from being 'suppressed' all their childhood. transfolk seem to have it worse obviously since playing around with your gender at all as a child tends to be heavily scolded. even if the parent lets a kid paint his nails, theres cases of the kid coming home crying and never doing it again because the other kids at school have been taught to scold them too.
being trans isnt a new thing but its more known about now than in the past. i didnt know what being trans was until i was a sophomore. its really shielded from children and i dont hink it should be.
theres a lot of gay teachers who have to hide that theyre gay even if they teach high school or older. and treating transfolk like this could be an easy fix, i think the overall problem is that being lgbt is always seen as an explicit thing.
theres a lot of history with bdsm and such and with asexuals being in the commuinity now, it seems to be a lot more explicitly stated that its about sex. it can be treated like the birds and the bees i guess. we can make up little stories and dumb it down for kids and say that their trans teacher took some magic medicine or something. theyre kids. theyll figure it all out when they get older, but i think its healthy for kids to be aware of all their options and open their minds as earky as we can.

slightly related but in the case of that one kid who became a drag queen, thats a perfect example of lgbt issues being handled wrongly with a child. its overly sexual and it shouldnt even be an option.

>yawn
also sage

That face is ugly not to mention hes a fat fuck

You didn’t read the post that was replying to, did you?

>its overly sexual and it shouldnt even be an option.
So I imagine you feel the same way about children's beauty pageants?

Well sort of, but it feels like it's been coopted by asexuals and other such people - I mean, they're welcome, but let's not pretend they're any part of the community beyond being in the string of letters. Ffs, gays and lesbians do not even hang out with each other, much less the rest of the crew.

Not him, but I think most people agree children's beauty pageants are terrible.

the way they are now, yeah. ive never really thought about this but now that i am, i feel like maybe if it was toddlers only and it was just for fun itd be fine. no mature dresses or anything of course, just tutus and frills. baby stuff

Sweet i need a haircut, i might get one of these badboys instead

Thank you for taking this so seriously. But really I'm genuinely curious what people expect trans people to do? People don't ask the other side about their opinion enough. At the end of the day trans people are the minority and it's asinine to expect the majority to understand something like this, let alone accept it overnight. I'm curious about where people legitimately stand on this shit.

GTFO u fucking faggot. kill urself

If a schizophrenic believes he is being followed by the government and tells you so, he isn't lying. By the same token a person with gender dysmoprhia isn't lying if they say they are not their biological gender. Using the pronoun that makes sense to them is thus akin to telling the schizophrenic that you've installed a special compound in the walls that prevents the government from finding him - even if you know it's a lie, it's still the right thing to do for his sake (under the right circumstances). Your failure to address what you consider mental illness in a mature and helpful way doesn't seem open minded at all.

We don't support mentally ill people. Wanting to buttfuck isn't an illness, thinking that you can have a penis and be a girl, is.