Trump got accused with rape. Can this senile old man prove his innocence?

It's not for the accused to prove their innocence. It's for the accuser to provide evidence beyond reasonable doubt.
Law 101.

Weird how it's brought out right before the democratic debates. Oh wait no it isn't. They're corrupt as shit. Also snopes isn't a trusted source.

He doesn't have to prove shit. His accuser has to prove his guilt.

Kinda hard to prove now as any (((feminist))) chick you vaguely glace at can accuse you of rape

>snopes isn't a trusted source
this honestly gave me a chuckle. just because you disagree with a site doesn't automatically make it false.

You don't have to prove innocence, you dolt. He's innocent until proven guilty.

Hey trump supporters, i want to ask what you guys think on the way he speaks. hes clearly not 100% there. even forgetting about shit and contradicting what he previously said in the past. not to mention his insane ramblings every time he talks

how do you prove to me that he isn't senile and fit for leading a nation of 100million

also lets not forget the incredibly shitty conditions hundreds of kids at the border jail had to live in fot weeks. no soaps, no toothbrush, etc. even when each kid was costing taxpayers $750 a day

>proven to be completely unfounded

Muller report literally said Russia DID hack and interfere with the election

and yet maga hats like you keep saying "NO COLLUSION, NO OBSCTRUCTION, FAKE NEWS FAKE NEWS" just like daddy donny wants you to

They don't care about anything Trump does because in their mind, everything he does is "lol triggered libs u mad u mad xdddd"

You are correct. Russia provided the bogus info for the FISA warrant.

Very true. So let's have an investigation and find out the truth.

So trumps a rapist because mexico sucks?

Got it.

>civil suit

No shit Russia tried to interfere. Like how the US interferes with every other election on planet fucking earth. That's just the smart thing to do in the digital age if you have worldwide interests.

The question is if Trump is guilty of civil conspiracy, the answer is no.

>Can this senile old man prove his innocence?
He doesn't have to lol
The burden of proof falls on the accuser, so simply accusing someone of something doesn't make it so.

>guilty of civil conspiracy, the answer is no
We don't actually know the answer. He's absolutely guilty of obstruction. That crime makes it difficult to answer the conspiracy charge. But why the cover up unless he's guilty?
Mueller was very definite. He couldn't answer the conspiracy charge due to obstruction. But he absolutely did not clear Trump either.

But a credible accusation is reason for an investigation so we can find out the truth. At least that's what the R's argued when it was B. Clinton being accused.

Remember the #metoo movement and all their "credible" accusations that turned out to be false? Or are we gonna pretend that never happened?

And since the US is a country in which a man is assumed guilty until proven innocent that means we need to lock him-
owait

Fucking this. People are numb to obviously politically motivated accusations at this point. They no longer care

>Muller report literally said Russia DID hack and interfere with the election

Everybody interfered with the election just like they always do and just like we interfere in everyone's shit.
24/7 everybody is trying to hack into everything.
They took this shit that's always happening and tried to tie it to Trump as if he had something to do with the Russians hacking into everything.
Totally separate things going on spun into a big fucking conspiracy theory.
The democrats were also conspiring with foreign agents to take down Trump who was also being spied on since before the election.
That's the biggest joke. They used the out of control 3 letter agencies to completely spy on the opposing party during the elections which was 10 times worse than Watergate and that's just ignored, and let's pretend they even needed to do an investigation on someone and his whole team who they've had "wiretapped" the whole fucking time and apparently didn't get anything bad enough so they had to spin this convoluted shit.

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No its proven to be bias you dumb shit. How gullible are you? God damn you sheeple piss me off.

Don't forget the part where they declared that Trump was being blackmailed by the Russians literally because some /pol/ack said so

> unironically using sheeple while being a sheep to trump
kek

and like others mentioned, the burden of proof is on you. show me why its bias. prove it

>credibly

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>Oh right, they start a major investigation, rake him over the coals, talk impeachment. Headline news everywhere. And bring it up for the next 20 years. With even less evidence.
>Can anyone say hypocrisy?

What does the Russia Collusion Hoax have to do with this?

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>With even less evidence
Are you saying ol Slick Willy didn't get his dick sucked, even though Monica said so? You realize you just literally committed rape by not believing a woman, right?

there is no reason to ever rape a woman, unless like maybe you want to have sex with her and she doesn't want to have sex with you.

>repuglican
Do you think this play on words is unique, humorous, or intelligent?

Was it one of the Kavanaugh accusers?

What if I want to have sex with her and she wants to have sex with me, but her parents don't want us having sex?

Have her Dad have sex with her, videotape it, watch it, and pretend its you.

Easy.

Also let's not forget Trump admitted to wanting to bang his daughter. Guy truly is not 100% in the head

>Guy truly is not 100% in the head
Name a politician who is

Iran just called Trump mentally retarded. LMAO!

independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/trump-iran-news-crisis-rouhani-tensions-middle-east-latest-a8973326.html

so what?

>admitted to wanting to bang his daughter
>true chad

they cant win on elections so they try to win defaming lmaooo

>culture
>vox
>independent

how dense are you people to come in here using this as sources

Have you seen his daughter? Any man who doesn't want to fillet that USDA prime beef is a faggot.

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You really don't get it. He is guilty of obstruction. But OK, I'm willing to drag it out in court. So let's get the prosecution started.
Better then chanting 'lock her up' after the person has been cleared 9 times of a crime Ivanka is guilty of.

who gives a shit the president has limited power by design in this country and virtually nothing he does has an effect on your every day life you non critical thinking patsy

>Trump got accused with rape. Can this senile old man prove his innocence?
>prove something didnt happen
>prove a negative
>burden of proof is on the accuser not the accusie

op its a bit early for the drinky drinky ya think?

>What does the Russia Collusion have to do with this?
1) nothing. I was responding to the rape charge, you know, the thread topic? And I fixed the quote for you. To paraphrase Trump, one doesn't obstruct justice unless they are guilty.

>credibly
Donald "Drumph" Trump, playing TES:V Skyrim, in 2011.

PIC VERY RELATED!

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>People who hang women for showing their face in public, hang super hot lesbians for eating each others pussies, think pets are people (The Cattle 6:38) and believe if you die you'll go to heaven and bang 77 virgins are calling other people retarded.

>nothing he does has an effect on your every day life you non critical thinking patsy
Wrong, you dumb shit.

>Monica
What does Monica and her BJ have to do with this? It was Jones that accused him of rape. And the repugs went absolutely ape shit about how he should be arrested based on only her word.

Which one of Trump's actions affected your every day life with major consequences lol this should be good

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When Republicans elects its people, they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you. They’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists.

Gaslight, Obstruct , Project

No, but it is descriptive.

>You really don't get it. He is guilty of obstruction.
I did not know that. You mind linking the court ruling declaring his guilt? Not saying that I don't believe you or anything, just need a legal source other than CNN.
Oughta be easy for you to do, right?

You mean bill Clinton

>>Monica
>What does Monica and her BJ have to do with this? It was Jones that accused him of rape. And the repugs went absolutely ape shit about how he should be arrested based on only her word.
Are you saying her word isn't good enough?!
Watch out folks, we got a serial rapist in here!

but mexicans are bringing those things and most republicans are not.

I don't understand why people want to 'accept everyone' and welcome everyone. We have enough problems in this country. We are full. No one else allowed in until we take care of our own shit.

If you're family was super dysfunctional and father having heart attacks from stress would you have more kids? Same methodology. Doesn't make sense.

wow sounds like something a demoCRAP would say HAHAHAHA GET IT

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In Hebrew, the letters 'b' and 'g' are interchangable

Fake news. Innocent until proven guilty.

Yes. Read the Mueller report. Just from the parts we're allowed to see it's obvious.
But yes, I agree. Doesn't count until he's convicted. So let's go to court already. Let's get all his people out of hiding and testifying under oath. Let's see the rest of the report. Let Trump explain his side under oath.
What was it trump said? Nothing to hide unless you're guilty.

Well the Mueller report said so but also stated that is is DOJ POLICY not to indict a sitting president

>Well the Mueller report said so
So you don't mind providing a link, right? To the Mueller report explicitly stating that he is guilty? Not stating that they can't prove his guilt but nor can they clear him off the accusations.
Just straight up stating that he is guilty
>inb4 you link a vox article

Not sure who you're talking about here. Jones or Lewinski? But if Jones word is good enough to put away Clinton, then the word of the 15 women accusing trump of sexual misconduct (including one rape) is also good enough.
Otherwise, I never objected to Clinton being investigated. I'm just saying we should treat Trump the same way.

Anybody notice that these threads started back up at the exact same time that the yellow spam stopped?
I honestly think I preferred the yellow spam

He said in the only new briefing he gave "if we had confidence that the president did not commit a crime we would have said so"

I claim that you raped me
Give me news attention and money now

>Hillary deletes emails that are under subpoena
>Is charged with nothing
Do you even know what obstruction is? Deleting evidence is obstruction. Fags like you called her brave.

No, he means Trump.
When Clinton was accused of rape, it was all over the front page of every newspaper. The Republicans were screaming for investigations, impeachment, and imprisonment based only on the accusation. Many Democrats even went along with it.
So why not the same reaction now? Why does Trump get a free pass after 15 accusations?

4:00 mins in to the video is his statement explaining it

msnbc.com/msnbc/watch/breaking-robert-mueller-resigns-60498502001

Then go to the news/authorities and claim your rape case. You have to press charges not him on himself

She can go get fucked. Where was she 3 years ago? Fuck off.

washingtonexaminer.com/news/cooper-cuts-interview-short-after-e-jean-carroll-calls-rape-sexy

More importantly, can you prove his guilt?

Accusations dont mean a damn thing after #MeToo. Women are lying cunts.

>Prove innocence
You know, there was once a time where I would just think you weren't American. That any American would know that the legal system is based on proving guilt, not proving innocence. That when someone makes a claim that you have committed a crime, until evidence, irrefutable evidence is presented, the claim is ignored. Instead, false rape, domestic abuse, and harassment claims are made every day and more Americans are simply choosing to "Believe all women" without evidence. There needs to be very, very severe punishments for these false accusations. This is ridiculous anymore. OP, you really believe that this journalist, who was silent during the Stormy Daniels issue, silent during his campaign, silent all the way until Trump pulled back on Iran, is legitimate? With no evidence, you think Trump has any obligation to agree and prove his innocence? That's very, very sad for anyone to be so deluded.

Do your own research, claims need to be investigated by the skeptical party not just proved by the claimant but as well as.

>if we had confidence that the president did not commit a crime we would have said so
Well shit, that's an absolute statement of guilt if I ever heard one. I mean, that's some airtight shit right there. You can see how he said that they couldn't price the president's innocence, which totally means he's guilty.
Because that's how the law works in the US

Thanks for ignoring the part where he said, "but it is DOJ POLICY not to indict a sitting president" hence why he hasnt been brought to court or received a guilty charge. So nothing will happen until he is done being president.

>got accused with rape
Thanks for checking in Vladimir your ID flag is obvious so you might as well go back to

But he totally declared that the president was guilty, right?

To add to my post here () that DOJ policy is specifically why they wont bring him to court. But that's cool believe that the DOJ saying those two statements mean donny did nothing wrong

> "Prove his innocence
Based retard that's not how the law works"

>prove his innocence

What's a guilty charge? Please clarify this for me.

Well they wont take him to court so he isnt technically guilty again because of DOJ policy. A policy no to indict a sitting president, not because a law wasnt broken

Obstruction

But he's been declared guilty, right? Just like you said?

Was he declared innocent?

Everybody is a rapist.

So... He HASN'T been found guilty?!
What kind of clown world am I living in?!

How is that automatically guilty?

Half the women who accuse men of rape wish someone would fuck them but their TO DAMN UGLY!!!!! Women lie. It's the only way they have to gain power and attention. They lie for money. They lie during divorces. There's a reason their called CRAZY ASS BITCHES.

>Potential court verdicts
>Guilty
>Not guilty
I don't recall seeing innocent in the list

Only because it is DOJ policy that they wont take him to court. As it stands by a court ruling, he is not innocent or guilty because the court hasn't ruled. So technically he is innocent but let's see what happens after he is done being president how quickly he goes to court

How does what Mueller said automatically make him innocent?

He doesn't have to be declared innocent. He, like the rest of the American people are ASSUMED innocent until PROVEN guilty.

doesnt have to, burden of proof is on the accuser

innocent until proven guilty is still a thing despite what the useless flesh sacks known as "women" would have you believe

So he was declared not guilty? The Mueller specifically said he is not guilty?

True, but I cant wait to see what happens when they get him in court after his presidency

doesn't have to, facts don't matter anymore

You do realize the only reason he hasnt been in court to figure this out is due to a policy. Not a law and not because nothing happened but a policy of the DOJ

Because he's an American, he, like the rest of the American people are innocent until proven guilty. Where are you missing this simple fact. You seem to be believing that accusations alone are enough to make someone guilty. In America you don't have to prove your innocence. Someone has to prove your guilt. So let's just assume he did end up in court, with the amount of cash he can dump on a lawyer he's going to be found innocent, unless you've already forgotten the O.J. Simpson case.

See

Alright, I think we're in agreement here.
I was arguing that the president has not been found guilty of a crime, contrary to looked post. You two seem to be in agreement with me at this point. My job being done, I'll leave y'all to speculate on what he may or may not have done as well as interpret the rather ambiguous results of the Mueller report

See

I'm not sure his money will save him this time. The case is too large to sweep it under the rug

Money wont save him, the case is to big and the only reason he hasnt gone to court is a DOJ policy.

>Murder case.
>Swept under the rug

> credibly
> accused

Pick one.

>accused with rape
Nice try, Ivan.

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Don't care

still your president

>public and highly politicized trial of former president
>sweeper under the rug
Kek

There's always some new dumb shit with him. Does it even matter? You'd be a lot happier if you quit complaining about politics and just focused on yourself.

youtu.be/1bt4t05m_j0

> Prove his innocence
Fascist. Kys.

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Thats because democrats refuse to do anything with republican congress in hopes that instead of holding them there we send them out into the us

Accused = guilty, if its Trump(fascist)

Its like everyone forgets that the steicter border control came with 9/11 and that opening our boarders can and will lead to another event similar to 9/11 in which we will start another war with another country over something that couldve been avoided if the dems stopped being pussies and just understood that not everyone is good and we need boarders.

>i don't like him
>i say he raped me
>i lose in court
>people still think he's a rapist
winning

His guilt can not be proven in a court of law without evidence, also very unwise to falsely accuse one of the most powerful men in the world when he has many resources at his disposal.

It is when it's slander.

Innocence is a presumption. The prosecutors job to prove guilt beyond any reasonable doubt.

The parents of those children chose to endanger their child by committing a crime of entering a foreign nation without authorization. The parents should be reunited with their children and promptly flown to their nation of origin once a DNA connection has been verified within the party.

This is what happens when people cry wolf too often. No one believes them. You can't go around accusing every male of rape as some sort of political weapon, and act like JUST the accusation is enough to cause someone to be punished by castration.

No one fucking cares anymore. Powerful men being accused of rape is no longer news.

People get raped all the fucking time. Feminists are trying to redefine rape, they want it to be something other than the use of physical force or extreme coercion in order to force a women to let you fuck them.

Rape isn't weird sex you regret with your high school boyfriend. Rape isn't you're boyfriend demanding you do kinky shit in bed and then you giving in because you gave up on saying no.

Rape is ONLY when a woman clearly says "NO" and then sex happens anyway.

The definition of rape that feminists are trying to push right now is ridiculous. If we redefine rape to mean what they want it to mean, that means I've been raped dozens of times throughout my life. I've woken up to drunk bitches sucking my cock, I've woken up to female friends of mine masturbating with my hand, I've had sex with women simply because it was easier than not having sex.

None of those things was me getting raped. The fat bitch sucking my cock while I was passed out drunk at a college party was maybe rape, but that would be stretching it.