All right, faggots. We need to discuss the "Black Mirror" episode "Striking Vipers"...

All right, faggots. We need to discuss the "Black Mirror" episode "Striking Vipers". What better place to ask if whether this is gay or not than from professional faggots like you guys?
So, the debate is...Is it gay to fuck your homie in virtual reality? Your friend is a chick with a vagina, and youre a dude. Simple as that. But your still banging your homie, but not really...Also side question, is this considered cheating even though there's no real penetration?

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I don't know but that episode messed with my head

Sick dubs. Would you fuck your friend though in VR?

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If the one getting fucked in VR says back off you homo and the action ends before it really starts and you both laugh. Just shitting around. Not gay. If you play through the entire act in VR and you're both sweaty and sporting hard ons, you're a couple of faggots.

Gf and I were talking about it.

I think it's gay but not cheating
She thinks it's cheating but not gay


What I don't get it is, why do it with your bro?
Just matchmake online

No, it would be too weird.

A more interesting question would be, what if it was an anonymous stranger? It could be a 55yo morbidly obese man, but to you in game it looks like a hot 22yo asian slut. Yay or nay?

Its gay cause its your best friend and you know who is playing the character but I like how this challenges the idea of whats gay and whats not
I just dont think it should matter in this case
Dudes friend was an egg simple as

Nay jesus

It's weird right? She probably sees it as emotional cheating. As guys, we don't think it's cheating until it gets physical.

Also "SUP BRO, YOU TRYING TO FIGHT OR YOU TRYING TO FUCK"

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the worst part was the accepted cucking so he could continue having gay VR sex. his slutty wife is going to have sex with a stranger on HIS birthday??

but you would never know, and neither would anyone else. Still no?

I am a girl and its cheating even if you are fucking a literal lump of shit
Its not gay if you think its a woman playing it but 90% of the time it would just be a normalfag man

That's because it isn't cheating until it gets physical.

But bitches be cray

Yea it matters who is playing the character
I would feel more comfortable fucking my bf playing a woman than with a woman playing a man

I mean, it's anonymous so.. yay. If we could customise our characters to not represent our true physical form then why not? Not like we'd ever see each other ever again.

Definitely yay. Would honestly love for VR to become this advance

I LOL'd so hard forreal. That seemed like an analogy for cucking and porn. The guys porn addiction led to him ignoring his hot wife so he could jerk it while she fucked other dudes

Yeah the ending was fucking funny. He really settled for that. His wife is hot too.
What an idiot. It's also funny how the guy who was the chick got a cat and the end too. Pretty gay.

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but it's anonymous matchmaking so you would never know who is playing the character.

Would you be ok with it?

>it isn't cheating until it gets physical
Thats fair, you should be allowed to talk to people ...

You would never know too plus the voice changes. The guy (or girl pretending to be a guy) can role play pretty damn good and fake info. Plus the voices change too. You'll never know.

>but it's anonymous matchmaking so you would never know who is playing the character.
Thats gross and I stopped roleplaying with strangers at like 15 ys old. It stopped being hot when I realized I dont know who I am actually talking to

More importantly, I don't even see how it's emotional cheating. It's literally just porn. I don't get why he would even hide that shit.

That's where it got fucked up. Shoulda just told his woman and roped her in on the fun it's what I'd do.

>It's cheating even if you're fucking a lump of shit.


Is that hyperbole or are you one of those insecure women that think your bf watching porn is cheating too

Bruh, you were role playing with people before the age of 15? Why???

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I'm not insecure and he can watch whatever he wants but its cheating when you are larping with retards and fags

i personally dont think its gay if youre the guy fucking a girl. if it has a girl body, a girl voice, a FUCKING VAGINA, then its pretty straight no matter who is controlling the character

on the reverse, if you want to play a girl getting fucked by a dude thats super gay

because I thought it was kinky

>Ropes her in on the fun
Manipulative faggot

roman rules

Valid, but even when I was that horny and young I was sketched out by people online. I had to at least see a Myspace and got some pics (not nudes but normal pics).

>VAGINA
agp

what is wrong with you? who peers through the online glory hole?

LARPing is what you do on Yea Forums and Omegle.
That is VR.
And neither of them are cheating. The first is sad and cringey but the second is interesting and potentially fun

I wouldn't have to manipulate her. She'd be down. Hell if the system existed most of the time we'd just use it with each other

this lol

its cheating if there is a second party involved, doesnt matter if its gay or straight
its usually gay btw

>on the reverse, if you want to play a girl getting fucked by a dude thats super gay

I disagree bruh. I'd totally do that. Female orgasms are many times more intense. The only problem is I have no desire to be a chick but depending on how sophisticated the VR system is, maybe it'd feel entirely natural

>Female orgasms are many times more intense
what point of reference do you have here? when did you make a woman cum? tell me about the first and or only time

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I really don't see it as cheating but I can agree to disagree.

I do think your partner should know you do that shit but I don't see it as cheating

I mean unless you're a complete virgin you know this is true so...

I think that sounds like an abusive and unbearable cuck tier relationship and of course I agree to disagree because damn. I'd kill myself and my children

I can cum I am asking you when *you* ever made a woman cum

Also, literally any neuroscientist will tell you that.

Men have far fewer nerve endings than women in their junk

Hold on let me grab my list of women I've had sex with and catalogue of intensity of orgasm double signed by witnesses

you dont know what to do with a pussy
you just fuck it
if a tranny blows his dick out and makes look like a pussy you still fuck it its just a fuck hole to you
who fucking cares

ill wait
fagget

Look. I'm sorry you've had bad sexual experiences but it's not my fault.

I wasnt raped I was too autistic and people probably thought I'd bite them
stupid queer whore

The difference is less if uncut tho

Gay means you are sexually attracted to the same sex. They weren't attracted to each other, so they weren't gay. It's the VR equivalent of putting a prostate massager up your ass. It gets you off but you have no desire for another man or a real penis, it just feels good and that's all that matters. It's pretty simple. My problem with the episode was that they never switched characters or chose other characters to experiment with. It doesn't seem fair that one dude gets to own the female experience while the other dude is just being a dude. Why would you partake in such an immersive out of body experience with the same body over and over??? That defeats the fucking purpose

Yeah I don't really give a fuck either way so...

the other guy fucked a polar bear and couldn't stop thinking about banging his best friend who played the man
if thats not gay idk what is

then dont (You) me faggot

yea its pretty fucking gay

that's kind of the point of the episode. They were so goddamn confused about their sexuality at that point that they met up to kiss in real life and felt nothing.

it's a really good episode that is super relevant for the future when/if VR sex takes off

Yeah I'm uncut. But orgasm for guys is still momentary.

It's not crests and troughs the way my girl describes it. And I can see it last night longer for her. Plus successive orgasms actually get stronger for them and do not for us

Also the difference in nerve endings is huge. The clitoris has more than 2x the number the penis has. And that's just the clitoris

It's like you're trying to apply Old Testament definitions to modern situations.
If your specifically getting off on knowing you're having simulated sex with another guy, it's by no means traditionally straight. If you don't care whether it's actually a woman you're having virtual sex with, so long as they appear as one, then that's just desperate or hedonistic, but if you're attracted to the personality on the other end, and it's actually a dude, that begs the question how much of a personality is affected by sexual identity and genetics.
Unless you're involved in some legal contracts where infidelity is strictly defined as physical contact, "cheating" can easily be any significant sexual/emotional favor shown to someone who's not your exclusive partner, it just depends on the values of each partner.

You're a fucking complete autist aren't you? You responded to me retard.

U think most of you are missing the point of the episode.
It was the emotional connection that made the virtual sex so good for them.

>pic not related

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I think you have some deep issues if that's what you got from that episode lol. Try giving one of your buddies a big hug, you'll both feel better.

>*I think...

THIS

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kill yourself before somebody ruins their life doing it for you

All right all right. To clear this up, I'm going to run a tally. Yay for gay and nay for not gay. I'll add up the yay and nays before thread closes.

Meh?

You seem to want to black-and-white this thing pretty badly.

definitely not with friend, but probably with stranger
i dont care if its gay or not if it feels good

It's for fun man, it's just funny. Life is gray.

He wanted to fuck his best friend. I'm pretty sure he loved him. I'm sure he faked that he didn't feel the connection when they kissed. So...gay in my books.