The yellow raid does have a point. Yea Forums has been infested with nothing but porn. Don't get me wrong, porn is fine. However, perhaps it's time to split the porn up to three threads and let the rest actually be more Yea Forums because Yea Forums is not only about porn.
The yellow raid does have a point. Yea Forums has been infested with nothing but porn. Don't get me wrong, porn is fine...
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its pretty simple, if you want /b to not be mostly porn threads, you have to make an interesting non porn thread, literally just that. people go to porn threads because they are the most interesting. Offer and Deman. Not that hard to understand
No. You have to drive away mindless, endless spam with something that will put them off their soup. You must remove people shouting in unison to be heard.
That's the thing: People flock to porn. Why? Everyone wants to fap. It's going to happen. However, we have no need to spread our fapping everywhere. We could work with a few fap threads. Why should we split the porn community so much?
If weebs can keep their own community in chatting with eachother with the waifu stuff why can't we work together just as well to post our porn a place where we can all scroll through to find what we want in the thread and fap?
no you dont, people choose to shout because they want, its not like it is the only thing they know how to do, they know that there are other options, everybody knows it, we just dont fucking want. if you can offer better options people will go to then. there are often non porn threads, just shows that there is still a little demand for it, there isnt more because it isnt that interesting, simple as fuck to understand
because people want different types of porn, the porn threads arent the same, the usual ones are fb/ig, tribs, traps, random ethnicitys and some other threads that dont quite live up long. Those are all different threads, even if they are porn, they arent the same thing
You're wrong and retarded. 500 horny children reposting the same facebook pics in organic shifts will always push your carefully edited rants off the board until you give up.
First they came came after my neighbor's porn. And I did nothing. Then they came after my porn. And I did nothing. And then they came for me and no one was left to stand up for me.--Dietrich Pornhoffer.
CENSORSHIP IN ANY WAY IS AGAINST WHAT Yea Forums STANDS FOR
The fuck is Yea Forums?
if your rants actually have a point and make sense yes, which they usually dont, its usually just people complaining that anons are posting stuff they dont like, which isnt enough of an argument. Lets do this now, please show your argument on why people shouldnt post porn. im open to it my man
You're so clever. You must watch Rick and Morty.
Even if they don't want the same kind of porn there must be a limit. You see, there is an entire other board made for porn that isn't Yea Forums. If anything the fact people have been spamming porn to the back it pushes everything back pages in the first 20 seconds it is posted.
If a lot of you only want to fap why not go to the forums that litterally is only hentai, porn, or even gifs of porn images?
The fact Yea Forums has been turned into a place with practically nothing but porn kills what Yea Forums really is intended to be.
Yea Forums is for random. Porn is for random.
You say that like Yea Forums has *ever* not had porn on it. Go to fucking /bant/ if porn triggers you so much, it's literally Yea Forums without porn.
i don't know why these faggots keep insisting that "HURR DURR IF U MAK INTERSTING THREDS DEY WILL SLOW DOWN ON DE PORN xDDDD"
this is retarded. it will not happen. face reality. Yea Forums is all porn because Yea Forums is all neckbeard virgins in their basements, or 12 year old kiddies. accept it. you've lost, get over it.
If people randomly decide to post porn threads, they have every right to. It's disgusting to watch Yea Forums demand more moderation and more rules.
Yea Forums has a endless porn dump. No need for another one on Yea Forums. You retards literally fap to bots dumping the same threads over and over again with the same shit tier pics.
There's no OC, no fun nothing. It's just stale advertising and dumping that has nothing in common with the values of Yea Forums.
cry more, newfag.
Or everyone could just post what ever they want and you could deal with it and shut the fug up or go elsewhere. Yea Forums is always what the majority of its posters want. Why should it ever be anything else?
because its easier, its all compiled in a single section, other than in different ones
well, Yea Forums needs to remove the bots, if thats the problem, if its other anons posting, it is what they want, simple question of offer and demand, people are posting there because other people are interested in seeing, otherwise these thread wouldnt even exist
How can you be so pathetic? Why wouldn't you like to see Yea Forums become what it once was? Don't you remember the times there were interesting discussions here daily? People that would post here regularly and update on what they'd been doing lately. Yea Forums is primarily a discussion board. Only a handful of boards are porn boards. There is no reason for Yea Forums to be a porn dump. Separate the porn from the discussions, make a new board and make a pinned post on Yea Forums directing all porn there.
It needs to remove the captcha, so that people besides ad companies will have bots.
That's what I have been saying.
Yea Forums already has endless porn from various forums. There is also an issue with spam copy pastes, bots, and much much more.
Moderation is needed otherwise we will lose Yea Forums forever and true original content will be nothing but a thing in the past.
>what Yea Forums really is intended to be
It was intended to be exactly what it has been everyday.
i should have clarified. i want less porn on Yea Forums. i do recall a time when Yea Forums wasn't this bad with it, despite what all the 12 year olds who claim to be oldfags may say to the contrary. i just know it'll never happen. this board is run by neckbeard virgin basement dwellers and 12 year olds who just want to jerk off to the same pics in the same stale old threads. FB/IG, WWYD, pics you shouldn't share, etc etc. over and over. it's a lost cause
I got bakc to /b for about 6h to witness the shitshow, I have seen the exact same porn dump threads getting reposted as fast as they got 404d. This board used to to have great content but there's absolutely nothing left and it hurts. This board was the heart and soul of Yea Forums.
Now it's just a sad dump of the same shit I have seen in 2007.
it's not the porn we care about
it's the striaght up /soc/ thread cancer that hasnt been moderated.
the WWYD, Left/right, "dude I totally know this chick from overly specific location", fb/ig/csgo/kek threads
that shit was specifically why /soc/ was designed in the first place and the newfags who've invaded since the 2016 election wont take a fucking hint and fuck off to /soc/.
plus board moderation under hiroshimoot has been pisspoor. they're not doing anything about it either so they're just as much to blame.
Maybe. But maybe not. This particular discussion is probably the most interesting discussion to happen on Yea Forums in months. /bant/ was an attempt to do this. But it was the wrong way to do it. They should've directed the porn to a new board, not the discussions.
It has a point, but it's several years too late. It's dumb to do it now; you're not saving or getting shit back. It's over.
Although it's been entertaining to see it unfold in full force. I don't like the yellow niggers, but damned if it didn't get entertaining to watch.
Say you solve your retard problem. What then? Go back to...what? What the fuck are you going to do when you "win"? Gookm00t still runs Yea Forums. Bots still run rampant. Yea Forums passes still exist. Nobody is making worthwhile OC at a sufficient rate anyways. Everyone knows about Yea Forums. Everything's well past fucked. We're browsing on borrowed time.
But the cuck, racebaiting and log threads are ok? The one basic rule that would fix the majority of the problems Yea Forums has is directing pornography to another board. In fact just making a pinned post on Yea Forums informing all porn will be directed to /trash/ now will fix a whole lot. As well as actually doing it.
>several years too late
Is it though? Is it ever too late to get too tired and say enough is enough. Regardless of how much time passes if you see a time where others are willing to raise up as well it's time to take action.
Cancer is cancer no matter how long it's been there. Sometimes taking action sometime is better then being a betafag that is content with doing nothing.
why the color yellow
It's late. Your last chance to "go back" was 2014. You stupid newfag.
We're all on borrowed time, doesn't mean we lie down and die.
Going back to proper discussions that regularly take place on other boards like /fit/, /int/, /biz/, /vg/ and so many other boards would by an improvement in many of our lives.
The problem are the endless dump bot threads bump everything off the board before we can have some fun.
When was the last time you saw a Yea Forumsingo getting done? Or some actual OC getting produced? At this stage fucking small blue boards like /an/ or /trv/ produce more content than Yea Forums.
Im only a spectator but I see no reason why it wouldnt work in slowing down the porn to atleast untill it reaches a more resonable amount, pornfags will always have boards dedicated to porn, just educating normies and newfags about where they should be posting will help.
here since 08 reporting in... not the oldest of fags but i member when Yea Forums was good i'll help fight the good fight.
>buh I wan Yea Forums!!!!1!1!!one
You don't get it.
This isn't Yea Forums anymore.
>Newfag
That phrase is thrown around so much. I am a returner. I have only rejoined Yea Forums a week or two ago. The time I ended up off Yea Forums for a while is when Epic Fail Guy threads was a thing, Boxxy was a Goddess, the trollface was directly from the "Problem Officer" meme.
I have the eyes of someone who missed Yea Forums's decline and I must say... I am disappointed in the state Yea Forums has became in my absence. Something should purge the cancer.
>REDDITED/pol/
Are you telling me the population here is even close to that of facebook, reddit, twitter or tumblr? Don't even try to kid yourself man. This place is Yea Forums, it's the antithesis of all other social media.
This, the cancer has to be purged.
Member when Yea Forums had banners that were worth while i do
2008-fag as well. Newfags will always come, but they learn, we all did. This board can be reclaimed.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!
I notice Yea Forums fills up with porn when there's no good happening or new memes for a while. It's just a sign things have been a bit slow around these parts. Hell real life has been slowing down lately nothing notible has happened in the last month.
Go forth and trip on your own dick then, retard. You missed over 10 years of developments. You've missed how many times newfags have wanted to "take back Yea Forums". You have no idea.
You have no idea.
its time to go further beyond
Asides if it's not porn on Yea Forums it's this faggot.
Then give up. But stop standing in the way of people that try.
Yea Forums was always about making stories up or simply creating OC for the shit and giggles.
It was about fun and not shilling your patreon or jewtube chan.
thats not the issue the issue is the trash that has been going around everyone who was a Yea Forumstard grew up to be literal fags because we realized women were fucking worthless.
I give you 48 hours of impassioned crusading, followed by exactly nothing. You don't even understand why you're saving nothing. You're not getting Yea Forums back. That's not because you can't drive out all the porn and garbage.
It's because it's 2019.
when this gets to the end is when oc stopped being a thing and it was all porn
THIS, you are right user. This is what should be expected of this board.
>Porn exists because no OC
>OC is posted but spammed by Porn
>WTF.jpg
I've seen original content posted, or at least attempted again and again user. However, the fact we have so many spammed threads pushes back OC before it can be seen by most of Yea Forums.
You can not use that as an excuse. Contributing to copy past threads and the hundreds of porn threads we already has just adds to the cancer killing original content.
It's the current year. Amazing.
People here are noticing this, discussion is happening. I don't remember an occurrence like this in a long time.
Things can change. It is up the the mods. But things can change.
>cuck
>racebaiting
straight up shilling that should be banned but it's Yea Forums so meh fine as long as it's not overly spammed
>log threads
literally oldfags who've been fighting back with OC that cant be stolen and used on other websites, same as YLYL banana and 60's spiderman. Also a great way to derail and kill either shit or off-topic threads.
I agree with you on the
>one basic rule that would fix the majority of the problems Yea Forums has is directing pornography to another board
though for sure, 100%. most of the porn is shit that should just be moved to /soc/ and /s/. retards who actually make porn webm threads on Yea Forums are usually newfags that dont know /gif/ has 10meg filesizes and sound.
boo fuckin hoo.
Yea Forums lost its edge years ago around the time founder got cucked and went sjw. hasn't created any decent real life raids, trolling, or memes in years.
When i btiched about it I get the canned response
b WaS NeVeR GoOd!!!
Fuck it. The place is infested with so infested with normies now you might as well call it Reddit After Dark. Deal with it.
nice
go down the catalog and bump all the yellow threads, the most efficient way to do it
>interesting non porn thread
when you are a porn junkie you don't CARE about anything but porn
just go to your boards
>It's the current year
If you can't figure out why
>current year
means you're not saving shit, you deserve to try.
>I don't remember
Try January of current year.
Send the threads to /trash/. That is a board that is truly "random" and nobody cares about that board anyway.
>thinks /bant/ is /pol/
Arw you stupid nigger?
So what you demoralized nigger?
Shit man I know I remember, It was so long ago but I started coming to this place for a reason, Yea Forums was actually great..
Retard.
I don't go on Yea Forums for like 5 days max, and half of the threads is a yellow raid involving porn. Could somebody give me a full rundown?
you sir, are a retard. I dont even go to porn threads. Interesting is a relative thing, if you dont know, what is interesting to you might not be for me. /b used to be mostly not porn because it had interesting original content other than porn, today porn is the most interesting to people on the porn threads. if you can make an interesting non porn thread, people will see, just look at all the non porn threads that pop up now and then, people are still interested in those
it takes a long time to make a new thread, but you can bump old threads rapid fire (you just need more than one person doing it)
go down the catalog from the bottom up and reply to every single yellow thread, push them all to the top
Then stay in your corner, arms crossed and eyebrows clenched.
Yeah, I don't even care about porn posting, attache a great greentext to it and it could be awesome. Random mindless dumping the same shit over and over again is pure cancer.
MAKE Yea Forums GREAT AGAIN !
There's been a ton of nonstop porn threads that some faggots got pissy about.
I'm waiting for the right sort to dump some comics in.
I'm going to put my feet up and watch the next batch of dumb faggots "try" again.
how am I retarded for wanting porn threads on porn BOARDS? there are fucking bots ffs how are you ok with this?
So then the people pissed about it make a bunch of yellow threads to combat the overabundance of porn, correct?
>/b used to be mostly not porn because it had interesting original content
You are 5+ years too late for that. This place has fucking sucked for awhile and sadly the fact people are getting as pissed off about porn threads is the most interesting thing that's happened here in a good long time.
The saddest part is nothing you nigger post is at least edgy or somewhat fun. It's just stale fap threads /hc/ does better.
Remember your roots Yea Forums.
exactly.
You sure are engaging in a lot of discussion for someone with his feet in the air.
This seems so resonable, are these fags just addicted or what?
Ok, thanks for the update user
why wouldnt you want the other threads to be posted in another threads then? Every thread you make it here could be made in another threads. This is Random, that means random content, and that included porn. you are just complaining because you dont like porn threads, and that is just your opinion, not an argument
Can I not call you a faggot with my feet in the air?
Go jump off the cliff you dramatic faggot.
Can you not see your long line of replies?
>not telling me to do a flip
Every couple of months, it's the same thing.
Can I not call you a faggot with my feet in the air? Tell me what you're going to do once you finish your pointless crusade.
This raid is picturesque newfaggotry. Anyone who's been here long enough to remember when Yea Forums wasn't 60% porn has long since been desensitized to it and isn't retarded enough to think that a "We did it, Reddit!"-tier shitposting like this is going to change anything. This is nothing new. Not even close. None of this matters. None of this ever matters.
It seems you have a hard time understanding indirect answers. You can call someone a faggot with your feet in your air. But you have now written:
these posts only in response to me, and you have been responding to others. This wouldn't really be categorized as someone with "his feet in the air".
Now what will I do after this discussion? Probably continue to lurk /fit/ and /int/ like I always have, and follow up on the discussion that has occurred today.
>Offer and Deman.
Ok retard
What is the internet for?
because i didnt type a D? really?
Porn was ment to be on Yea Forums because it can encompass random, but it wasnt ment to be its defining factor, thats why there are boards made for porn specifically. I see no reason to be against a more organized Yea Forums that way the can keep the intergrity of what the boards were meant for.
It is well within my limits to have my feet way up high, and call you a faggot all the while. You've yet to demonstrate why that's impossible, or even grasp the basic tennets of why you can't "go back" and "reclaim Yea Forums". This can very well be categorized as someone with their feet in the air. Why? Because it isn't impossible for someone to perform the bare minimum of effort to shitpost an explanation as to why you're being a retarded newfag.
Nevermind that you even missed the tense of
>going to put my feet up
>going to
not that it's impossible at all for now to be the time where I put my feet up and call you a faggot. This is what someone with no "argument" sounds like. It's a load of dumb shit. You realize that everything has changed in the last decade, right? You can't have "old Yea Forums" back. Nothing about whatever you think you're going to get back is going to satisfy you. But you're too retarded to understand that, and would instead choose to have a "gotcha" moment with something that goes right over your head. Like my feet.
>/fit/ and /int/
Nice try, brainlet.
No this is an old guard thing. How fucking new are you
yes, if there is a way to create another board for general porn and porn related stuff, i agree, but as it is, it wont work, the other boards dont compress enough things and spamming here wont change anything
You say that like america has *ever* not had niggers it. Go to fucking canada if niggers becoming 80% of the population triggers you so much.
If you really didn't care about this whole occurrence and discussion you never even would have posted in the first place, but you did, and you continued to do so. Kicking up your feet is a facade.
In relation to this occurrence, everything can change, and everything can revert it's change.
You are a very sad and angry person user. I truly feel sorry for you.
It's supply and demand you potato, which is an empty argument when the supply is over 10 dedicated boards
>If you really didn't care
Who said that? What?
Where?
>Kicking up your feet is a facade
Kicking up my feet is what I literally did minutes ago. It is no difficult task, especially not figuratively, if this is what I have to contend with.
>everything can change
>everything can revert it's change
Wishful fucking thinking. A bunch of vagaries that ultimately say nothing. You think you can just magically undo 2007? or 2013? Or 2016? Or any fucking year after 2007? You can't. That's just one of the many things that make what you're trying to do, what everyone before you has already failed to do, retarded.
There is so much shit that you would have to overcome, as a bunch of feckless newfags, that would even guarantee that you get what you want, what you think you'd be getting.
>You are a very sad and angry person user
And you're definitely not from around here. I'd tell you to get the fuck out, but that hasn't been a thing since everyone came in.
pornposting has driven anyone of value to other boards
We shall fight
kek, sry, me potato, im brazilian. our words are "oferta" and "demanda", always get it mixed when i translate to english. and it makes sense when the other boards are basically dead. there is a reason /b is so active, its because it all got compressed in just one single board, instead of other 9 boards. if Yea Forums were to create a "Porn and Porn related" board i would be all in favor, but as it is, porn wont be taken out of /b
Im but a spectator but doing something is probably better than doing nothing, drawing attention too it might be enough to get the higher ups to consider new boards as there is clearly a market for an older version of Yea Forums but idk how any of that would even work, the difference between change and no change is how persistent these autists are imo.
let's be real, old Yea Forums was mostly white college kids, and new Yea Forums is mostly fat stubby armed mexicans with bladder disease
I've been here 11 years now. I've got my boards, but I miss Yea Forums.
I'll leave you with this image. I hope you don't approach things in your life like this simple wish to fix Yea Forums.
yes, for sure something should be done about it, but i really doubt raiding porn threads would work. Imo there needs to be enough anons mobilized creating actual original content and interesting threads for /b. if they are saying they want other content and they have enough people to do a raid, why not keep some non porn threads alive?
Yea Forums is definetly still atleast 80% white
yep, the internet changed and people still dont get it
>I can't accept not trying
Good thing people have been trying for more than the 11 years you claim to have been here for.
I know this much: If people was not united in the fact that Yea Forums has been overrun with cancer this topic would not be important.
A simple thread like this would die if it wasn't true. But no, we know this is an issue so it's time to discuss it.
Designated porn streets.
Or some fag would reply to himself w/ a dynamic IP for hours.
Could always be worse.
that's false. You and the rest of this yellow bullshit keep bringing it up in threads ironically making you all hypocrites and making the same thread over and over doing exactly what you don't want on Yea Forums.
makes me wanna BUST
youtu.be
Obviously if porn were removed all these threads would simply go away. Sometimes medicine tastes bad but you gotta swallow it.
of course they are have you ever met an opiate addict? they are only good at two things: making up stupid fucking excuses for their addiction and not giving a shit about how it affects anybody
I think its anonymous, the elite hacking group
>Sometimes medicine tastes bad
what is so bad about fucking off to their own boards? they already HAVE what they want. I've never seen such a bunch of spoiled fucking cunts in my life.
that's something a tranny/mod would do
Yeah, more idiots could swell up every few months and navel-gaze at the past, all while ignoring a remnant of said past giving them clear warnings about the stupid they're on.
Wait, that's already happening. Then there's part of the site likely being rented out to bots, because it takes money to run it. You retards don't even know what's going on, but you want to bring things back. Deal with the fact that the site could be getting gimped in the next 2 years, and then you can talk memes and "the future".
Heres the thing, people dont come here for cool oc anymore, the porn market has taken over Yea Forums, nothing subtle would work at this point.
>you dont like porn threads
yet there are thirteen boards that are dedicated to it and not once would I ever be able to post something that didn't belong there and get away with it
>market
fuck off kike
This is about awaking discussion to remove porn from Yea Forums since it now makes up for >80% of all threads. That is what the Yellows want. One of the suggestion would be to make a Random Porn board. Then the porn thread people have what they want and the Yellows have what they want. Why do you find that so demanding?
My thought is that the porn threads are posted like a psy-op. They keep the most popular board on the internet placated. You should be able to post porn, but porn-themed threads should be nixed.
what the fuck is "random porn"? why are there 13 porn boards if people want to randomly look at dude's asses, pussies, anime and lolis? no one is into everything. which is why people on a random board shouldn't be forced to see what you fucking masturbate to
No fucktard, for every normal threads there’s atleast 10 pr0n related threads so fuck off newfag
How is not wanting Yea Forums to be a porn board make me jewish? Wouldnt it mean the opposite?
>market
>kike
>glowing CIA nigger
>the joke
>your head
I mistook your defeatism for opposition. You might as well be useful on somebody's side.
>Could always be worse
as in if people hadn't tried, it could be worse. All boards have been created because there was demand for them. This is no different.
>One of the suggestion would be to make a Random Porn board. Then the porn thread people have what they want and the Yellows have what they want
also:
>having a board just for your fetish
>not using it
What makes you think this would work?
Then why is it so rampant on Yea Forums?
The 13 porn boards don't allow all niches. There needs to be a containment board for the furfags, traps, shemales, diapers and whatever fetishes there are.
The purpose of redirecting porn from Yea Forums is to get rid of the non-original spam. You mentioned it is hypocritical and in a sense you are right. But sometimes you need to fight fire with fire.
There are boards for porn. This is Yea Forums
The same fucking cuck/tranny/trib/nigger thread on a constant loop is not random. The sooner you cancerous fucking faggots realize that, the sooner we can get back to organising our christian minecraft server.
My opposition was towards that anons means to bring back old Yea Forums. Were he wants to be more subtle about it I think the way that things have been going with the raids are much more effective especially if you stay persistent, I never even began to say that nothing should be done or that it was hopeless.
>There needs to be a containment board for the furfags, traps, shemales, diapers and whatever fetishes there are.
Oh but liking feet and your family members are fucking fine. Even though nobody really gives a fuck what you masturbate to you have to draw the line at furfags, diapers and CP. Jesus fucking christ.
Nobody was even talking to your faggot ass
Some are lazy and some fetishes are unwelcome everywhere.
>old Yea Forums
The reason old Yea Forums failed is BECAUSE the pornfags were let out of their coops. People are sick of posting on the other shitty boards just because they aren't fap addicts and don't feel like seeing stupid whores on the catalog.
So just making random threads along side the porn? I feel like you fags won't put in the extra effort.
Stop yer bitching and pst something good then ppl won’t waste as much time on the porn threads.
Too hard to understand for your little cumstained brain? I make it easy for you to ken:
YOU MAKE THE FUNNY = LESS PRON
>some fetishes are unwelcome everywhere
I can't sympathize. Maybe just stop jerking off with other dudes online and watch the porn by yourself.
The containment board for other fetishes are already established. The other fetishes are forbidden everywhere. It's not a matter of what's righteous to masturbate to. It's about cleaning up Yea Forums from spam.
Or maybe this site is just fucking dead and no one posts anything BESIDES porn because it's relatable to EVERYONE. This site is dead and has been for a while, why stand guard for a fucking corpse?
>I feel like you fags won't put in the extra effort.
Just to put you back where you belong I will.
so even has standards? because if that's anybody's problem it can only be fixed with lead
>because it's relatable to EVERYONE
no it's fucking not, it's propaganda and it turns you into a stupid fucking pussy
People trying did nothing in the context of
>old Yea Forums back ermagerd
Nothing happened. Nothing. Complain here, complain there, a wave of autism, and then nothing. Piss in an ocean of piss.
And you're retarded, because you don't realize that there exists several boards that don't need to be newly minted to contain the porn you're screaming about. No new boards. They already exist. This shit again. We don't need new boards. But that's nothing compared to the site's husk getting canned because no more bux are rolling in, or Gookm00t deciding to turn it into Plebbit for bux.
You want to offload niche porn? Go to . Done. And damn it all, we already tried to banish the furfags to their own board. It didn't work. What a fucking surprise. Want to try again, because we're retarded and don't learn from the past? Dumb fire with fire nigger.
No I don't really sympathize with them either. But I would like my fucking Yea Forums to return to some normality where something other than an endless flow of porn can take place.
>YOU MAKE THE FUNNY
can't laugh when you're too preoccupied with someone's "sister's" asshole
do you think people go to porn threads because they are obligated to go? lol, cause that surely sounds like what you are saying. people go to porn threads because they find it entertaining. If anons like you and others who were unsatisfied with how /b is now actually started creating oc it would grow for sure; if there is enough people to raid there is enough people to maintain an oc thread alive, that is for sure.
same answers applies to this, if your oc is interesting people will pay attention, otherwise all these people asking for /b to comeback arent all that interested in oc content after all
read the second answer
Shit is unregulated here so wouldn’t shouldntshare get banned on /soc/ etc
>all these people asking for /b to comeback arent all that interested in oc content after all
they are, god forbid the board slows down and allows people who don't want to fucking see what you fap to come back to post that OC, we don't want to filter you we want you to fucking go where you belong
Very few people know about /trash/, comparatively. If they did, much of the porn on Yea Forums that is posted because it can only be posted there would go there. But that wouldn't solve the problem of the bot-cycle spam anyway.
bump
>Very few people know about /trash/
then they're fucking new and nobody should have to put up with their shit
How fucking autistic do you guys have to be to think that separating porn from b will change anything? You can have your "old b threads" if you make them you retarded fucks. You think just because there's no porn on b that that will magically fix your lack of creativity? B doesn't feel like b because the only posters are trap/log loving newfags.
Stop being retarded and make b what you want it to be instead of asking mods to restrict it because of your short comings. B isn't meant to be bound, it's meant to be free. You just don't care enough to make it a place worth being obviously. Ashamed to call you Yea Forumsros
if there are enough people interested in oc those threads would be kept alive, if they die those people arent that interested. One of two things is happening: or those threads arent interesting, or anons complaining arent that interested in OC, there arent other options. The existence of porn threads dont exclude the existence of other active threads, thats just how it works man
I watched yellowposters dominate the catalog, but you're complaining that all of those yellowposters couldn't drum up enough OC and non-pornposting to change anything?
>lack of creativity
it's avoidance of YOU and the fucking bots
You don't get it you dumb fucking nigger. Nobody worth a shit wants to see you faggots jerking each other. Nothing good happens because the entire board is full of your degenerate shit, it's not up to us to turn away. It's up to you to fuck off.
idk why the fuck they picked yellow. we're all a bunch of fucking monkeys. doesn't it mean anything that a bunch of fucking people flipped out today about your disgusting fucking addiction and told you to go take it to a place where it's actually appreciated?
>it's not up to us to turn away
You're the only nigger here for not knowing you can post whatever the fuck you want, in spite of all the other faggots, like the days of old you yearn for.
Change isn't sitting around and waiting for something to happen, and that's all you faggots do.
You're just plain wrong. All tries lead to discussion, small or large, which may or may not lead to action. But the single most likely attempt to succeed, has not yet been tried. And that's to ban porn, and redirect to another board, for example /trash/. Banning porn reduced spam, reduced spam leads to increased number of quality threads.
Yes other boards exist and have no problems, but this discussion isn't about them.
Stop being so god damned demoralized.
One, I'm not a porn-addled brainlet. Two, the "organic" adoption of yellow is exactly what used to drive older forms of the board- which is what made it better than whatever the fuck the complaint is now. Three?
>doesn't it mean anything
Of course. But you're retarded, so it won't change anything.
But they still post don't they... So why not get rid of them?
No im saying that many people who came here for fun arent coming here anymore, people who come here NOW are much more likely to come just to jerk off, that IS what Yea Forums is too them, a porn site. So its the people IN Yea Forums that need to change aswell not just the content.
Gunna cry there newfag?
there is nothing fun about the site anymore, because of this
/bant/ is fucking dumb
Yea Forums is dumb
/r9k/ is suicide fuel
with thirteen boards made just for jerking off nobody should have to go to those boards for fun
you literally just need to think, if as you say we "jerk off together" there is more than one person interested in it. if these are the thread that are the most active in /b of course there is a demand for it. stop thinking that what you want is everyones desire. And im not even active on porn threads, im saying this because you guys complaining cant even stop to think for a second on what you are saying, all you say is "stop porn, pornfags" sounds like a bunch of retards
>You're just plain wrong
>All tries lead to discussion
>which may or may not lead to action
>You're just plain wrong
I don't think I'm plain wrong if I've said that all the trying in the past lead to a lack of action. And I'm definitely not plain wrong if the past account of things is literally that no positive action was taken.
>the single most likely attempt to succeed
>has not yet been tried
Bullshit. The Ion canon was a thing.
>And that's to ban porn
Oh, you fucking retard.
>but this discussion isn't about them
I would've thought otherwise, because clearly, I told you about the pressing problems of another board, and...
Wait, I didn't. For fuck's sake. "Demoralized"? What the fuck do you want? Where the fuck do you think this is? Who the fuck do you think you are?
Why is it so hard for you autistic to just post oc threads rn and make that change? Imagine every yellow thread being an oc one rn. How fucking dense are you idiots?
>t. seething faggot
it's time for you to go
>t.
well, to begin, you cant even really say for sure that those who anons dont visit the site anymore, dont even have the date to prove it. The problem is, Yea Forums has a bigger population than it had before, of course the most popular threads are gonna be about porn, that doesnt mean the non porn threads dont exist, they just arent that active, because they are more specific and not every user that comes here is interested in those. If you want to make them interested you gotta start by making interesting OC, otherwise they will just go to porn
Any other day those yellow threads would be the same unoriginal porn threads.
Now you know what Yea Forums looks like to someone that isn't a massive fag.
If u really believe that then you’re fuuuuuuuucked
MORE FUNNY = LESS SISTERS ASSHOLE
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now you know that you're a dumbfuck redditor that needs to kill themselves
For the thousandth time this thread autisto, if you guys made oc threads then that wouldn't be the case. No point in talking to someone who's too retarded to actually try to make the change they want to see
All the shitty incest and Facebook and ‘what would u do’ threads are just bots setup by site admin to bolster the number of threads on here. If you don’t like it then make more threadsthat ppl like. Otherwise the number of ppl actually visiting b goes to shit, ad revenue goes down and our mighty overlord get tres unhappy which is no good for any of us.
>now you know that you're a dumbfuck redditor
Idiot, that was made popular on Tumblr. You're using something that came from Tumblr, and telling me I have to go back to Plebbit.
If you don't care about the board, and you don't believe things can change, why do you so staunchly fight against it? That is what I mean by demoralized. Having a discussion on why or why not it's a good idea is completely different than constantly whinging about things being impossible to change.
You cannot predict would this board would've been like if there were no tries, and that is not what I meant when I said you were plain wrong.
Removing things that detract from a board that should be about promoting off-topic 'random' discussion can only help that board. Removing porn, removes the cyclical porn threads and spam. This is plain right, opposed to being plain wrong.
Demanding rules being placed on Yea Forums is just wrong.
Not trying to make original oc threads because "there's so much porn threads" is just wrong.
Being too stupid to understand these basic concepts is just sad.
Do us all a favor and neck yourselves if you side with the yellow retards.
Thanks champ
this, is Yea Forums is chaos then why bring any semblance of order?
>If you don't care about the board
>[citation needed]
>why do you so staunchly fight against it
You misunderstand. I'm trying to tell you that you're wasting your time doing the dumb shit you're trying to do. It has been done before. It has been done many times before. Nobody made it work, and it is both insane and retarded to do the same thing over and over and expect different results. It's even more retarded to expect the outcome of what's been tried to death, in an environment that is worlds away from the one where the whole "attempt" was birthed. What you're trying to do would've worked flawlessly in "old" Yea Forums. Not here. You need to do different things in 2019- and you'll never actually be able to fix everything at this point, unless someone else buys Yea Forums, or something I know none of you could make happen, happens.
>Having a discussion on why or why not it's a good idea is completely different than constantly whinging about things being impossible to change
Hey, here's why it's not a good idea. I've seen it all before. You're retarded. It's impossible to change the way you're going about it. There you go. And apparently it doesn't matter if I sit down with you and discuss in detail, at length, why it's not a good idea to be as retarded as you're being right now, because you're going to want to do it anyways, because "eww gross go away you demoralized user".
>You cannot predict would this board would've been like if there were no tries
Yes I could. Because the tries effectively amounted to nothing changing.
>and that is not what I meant when I said you were plain wrong
My immediate retort to you contained why we don't need more boards, what happened before, and where to send the niche porn. What else did you mean? Something you never typed?
Other anons will tell you, too, and you'll still want to do all your dumb shit. Anons like you, they never listen.
You can say it ten thousand times you dumb nigger, it doesn't mean you were right the first time.
He's right.
Im just a spectator who realizes Yea Forums origninal intent as a random board not a porn board, thats just a fact. I also realize that even if you came before porn was the majority you arent still coming for the same reasons, that is also a fact. I never once said posting oc is bad but as I will have to repeat myself again it would not be enough to repair years of porned Yea Forums
With a retort thats just you saying "no u" I don't think I need to say much else really since you seem stumped
Rules 1, 2, 4, 7, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, and 15 are enforced.
There are already rules in place. The spam, the countless porn threads with the same shit over and over and over again discourages and prevents OC.
Ban porn and you get rid of that. Let the board flourish, remove the filth covering it.
>Being too stupid to understand these basic concepts is just sad.
I didn't know about this yellow raid. Casually I just installed 4chanX and wrote a few filters. When you filter all porn and bullshit of Yea Forums it suddenly stops being shit
If the magnitude of porn has changed Yea Forums because of how long it's been here, then clearly a magnitude of OC will affect Yea Forums in the same way. After all, people are coming for reasons, are they not? If the porn isn't what dominates, then what reason do they have to come?
Clearly, the OC.
Welcome to 4reddit.
Projecting the current issues of b on porn is just idiotic
/thread
Your entire argument revolves around "you don't have to look at it"
Tell me, why do you post porn on Yea Forums? When there are a million places on the internet and even this site for you to do that gay shit, why do it on Yea Forums? Do you think it's cool being an obnoxious faggot shitting up the board?
You think porn flood won't be replaced by something just as none oc? Once again I question how you can have that stance at all. Your move Autismo
They're dead because the people that only want porn don't use them, and half the porn threads here are bot threads to inflate traffic in order to boost ad revenue.
You really don't have to look at it, for starters. You could even be doing something about it with your entire brigade of yellow niggers.
You're all just some yellow-belly niggers.
Why do you think it's an issues when it's faggots like you without any creativity who are the issue? Porn is part of b faggots, you crying about is without any real standing is just pathetic and makes you seem like raiding reddit fags
>You're all retarded for wasting your time. Hello excuse me sir, you're retarded. Hey retard you're wasting your time.
That's your opinion, it's not a fact. If you're not against the change, then don't derail the discussion.
>April Furs Day
>On April 1, 2005, Yea Forums administrators pulled a stunt called April Furs Day[3][4], wherein a /fur/ board was created, and people were informed that from now on, furry images should go in there instead of Yea Forums. Some users assumed it to be an April Fools' Day joke, and expected it to be gone the next day[5], while others complained about it in both Yea Forums and /fur/.
>By April 2nd, it remained and people against it tried to flood it with non-furry images, such as EroGuro -- the moderators immediately banned those people. Finally, on April 3, the moderators removed the board, and banned every person who had posted in it -- including those who complained about it in the /fur/ board.
>The banning almost completely eliminated all furry (and many anti-furry) postings for the next several months.
>en.wikifur.com
Trying. Makes. A. Difference.
Who decides what porn is though? Are dick rate threads porn? Are cutting threads porn? Are FB threads porn (even though there’s no nudity), are celebrity threads pron? Are Rate My Shit threads porn? What about Rate my Shit threads that show a dudes ass? Are trap threads porn? What about traps with clothes on? You faggots will just start complaining there’s too many thread about non nude chicks once the porn is gone. It’s the way censorship works. You faggots cant be happy with just one win.
Yeah, try making oc instead of having a fit faggots
yes, but why dont they use it? there is a reason for it, and that is because its easier to just post it all on /b. Would make sense to create a board for "Porn and porn related", but to just try and purge them out of /b is not a good idea. Bots are another discussion, Yea Forums needs to work on that
These idiots will call it all porn, they obviously want to destroy b
No I don't think it will. Pretty simple as that.
Bot-spam contains 1 porn image and a short text. At least 10 of those threads are up at any given time. No value, no discussion, nothing.
Yea Forums didnt switch to porn board over night it took years to get to the state its in, a more organic change would take much more time and effort and it would be unwize to put all that on someone who just wants a fun place to go too.
But you're actually wasting your time. I don't... do I need to show you every single time anyone has ever tried to do, word for word, what you're trying to do?
Yes, sir, you're retarded. Hey retard, you're wasting your time. You're all retarded for wasting your time. It's true. I don't even have to feel that way, it has literally happened before. Countless times. I can't even count on my fingers how many times. There was even a time where we had the same thread of wanting to change Yea Forums every other day. Every other day.
>referencing the time we tried to banish furfags to their own board
I wonder who mentioned that earlier. Was it me? Did I tell you that this already happened? Strange, right? A thing happened, but the furfags are still here. Who would've thought. I must've never known this happened.
Trying only makes a difference if you
>do
something other than complain. Hello, excuse me sir. You're retarded.
So like I've been saying, it's pointless.
Ah, so the retard alligations were correct
How are things done on other boards? The same concept would be applied for Yea Forums.
Why do you come to Yea Forums for porn? There are places for it but you come here and shit the place up. I want to know why you bring your cancer here.
I don't come to Yea Forums for porn. It's as simple as that.
They use the SFW (safe for work) concept. That would turn b into a blue board.
I'm a long standing lurker who posts occasionally. Don't act like you can read me faggot. I'm here for any and all content I enjoy and ik what b is and should be and these faggots are too lazy to be the change they wanna see. That's why I even spoke, I've shut up a few people already. Too bad it's past my bed time or I'd continue. Gotta get those good boy points so I can fuck your mom on Friday
What a fucked up idea. Might as well use reddit. Well done yellow retards your crusade is fuuuuuuuuuuuuucked.
>turning Yea Forums into a blue board
Goodnight, sweet prince.
You horrible cunt.
>turning b into a blue board
it would have to be renamed B
Youd be a fool if you said it didnt have any.
What the fuck is a Yea Forums?
Indeed you did mention it, and I looked it up. Trying made a difference for a time, keep trying and you'll make a difference again. However instead of making a new board for 3 days. Now you can make a permanent change... Jeez, golly how 'bout that.
Look at all the hentai shit on /d/ for example, imagine if all those threads were on Yea Forums. Now imagine if the porn on Yea Forums was directed to a newly created Random Porn board.
Things can change. Nothing is set in stone.
A blue board version of b
I guess you have no rebuttal then.
I came to Yea Forums as a senior in highschool. It was 2008. I always felt like I was a little fucked in the head but a friend showed me this place and for once I didn’t feel alone.
I took a hiatus a couple years ago as I focused on my family life.
I come back and this place is literally filled with filth.
Remember when state threads were meant to meet other local Yea Forumsros and connect on a level close to home? Now it’s just threads about sluts from tinder with the same area code giving out mediocre nudes with their less than pristine bodies.
Gore was a regular thing and now I find it to be rare.
Fat chicks post pictures and people are actually thirsting for them instead of running them back to the sow they were born from. And if you say anything you get white knighted out of town.
Every other post is a trap post or a post about some girl from Facebook whom the OP will never fuck.
And while the furries were always here, can’t they cut it down to a single fucking thread?
I don’t get it Yea Forums.
What the fuck happened?
I want my Yea Forumsaby back.
BRING Yea Forums BACK
This faggot ruined b
Nudity gets posted on boards like /fit/ all the time. Some posts can be up for debate, sure, no question. But you would get rid of the worst shit.
Nah all it would do is make extra work for the mods with all the yellow knight cunts reporting what they think is porn.
Key word organic as in just improving and creating more oc, but this isnt an organic transition at all. Aleast you now see my point.
there are other boards that don't allow porn (off-topic anyway)
Porn on Yea Forums is anything but random, these cunts have their own makeshift boards posting the same shit end on end, just ban it for being off topic.
too busy fucking your moms rebuttal
"No, I don't think it will" why do I need to make a rebuttal to someone who is too dumb to understand how b works? You think there isn't going to be spam anymore? You're too stupid to talk to, hence the retard alligations
If other boards can do it. This one can.
Porn addition is fantastic.
Or you could just ignore it. Just cos it rustles your jimmies doesn’t mean you get to have it banned bro. That’s a fucked up zoomer mindset. Don’t like it? Hide the thread and forget about it.
I guess you can only understand one sentence at a time. Read it again if you need to.
Maybe you should lurk a bit longer, or better yet, go back to whatever gender dysphoria support group you were in before you heard about this place.
tl;dr i support whatever the fuck it is you're trying to do. Yea Forums might never be the same or go back to normal but oldfags can at least try to preserve what's left. i prefer more wholesome threads instead of carpet bombings of porn.
if you think about it though you're just proving an old point. trying to fix or troll Yea Forums is like pissing into an ocean of piss, yellow. good luck.
Yeah it’s called /bant/ and it suuuuuuuuucks. Go there if you want porn free b. I bet you are back within an hour.
That was a really weak comeback.
It's an off-topic anime board. Name doesn't do it justice.
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Who makes the decision on what is porn? Is showing a non nude pics of celebrity’s porn? What about if there’s 1 nude pic in the thread? What happens then? b was never meant for such regulation. Take your censorship shit elsewhere you little sooky snowflake.
>made a difference
>for a time
You mean like the handful of hours yellowposting changed anything? Cool. A temporary change that gets erased in the ocean of piss. Mission accomplished, let's go home.
>keep trying and you'll
Keep shitting out vague promises and wishful thinking and boldfaced lies about what change on that scale demands, or even entails.
>imagine if /d/ was on Yea Forums
Hold the fuck on. You just got done complaining that boards were created because of the demand for what is essentially containment. Why do you now want me to imagine that /d/ was never created? Really? You want to argue against yourself by creating scenarios where I'm allowed to consider a Yea Forums without /d/? And then you go and magically will into being another board to contain what /d/ is?
Do you know how retarded that all is? You may as well have said that you'd create /d/ to contain /d/ and keep it out of Yea Forums. Which is already a thing. And so, we don't need another board for /d/ content.
>Nothing is set in stone
Except for your IQ.
Yes, and your point is suffixed between so much retardation, it's ineffectual at best. You want an organic transition? Lay the foundations for one. If people see OC being made at the rate in which yellowposters were spamming, then they'll want to make their own OC too than be drowned out by the noise of porn.
yellow shit gay as fuck
Actually it was pretty good
For 15 year old zoomer it would even be pretty pathetic.
You guys should date. I don't need to say more or do more. I've shut you two queens up and now all you've done is hurl insults. Shows us what we're dealing with. Might as well call it a night bois, no point in getting worked up over these mouth breathers who's best rebuttal is thinking that b will never have spam threads again. Why waste our breath? You did good son, you fought the good fight. Let these redditers Jerk off eachother in their homo threads
>just ignore it
Just post it in your niggertranny discord server like a respectable closeted faggot. None of you can give a reason for posting it here.
I don't think they remember or were here for $0 watches.
Porn is the current issue of /b dumbass
Newfag
No and you can’t make me hahahahahaha!
You impotent little boy can’t make me do shit!
I think I will go an make a thread all about giant black dicks right now. How does that make you feel you little cuck? Hahahahahahahahahahahaha
Idiots who don't post ocean are the issue here newfag. Ik you're a newfag because any oldfag wouldn't want rules to be added to b. Kys for me champ
Woohoohoo you called me a newfag now muh jimmies be rustling like yer momma love flaps during black history month! Fuckin hell you losers are such criiiiiiinge
Oc* fucking auto correct
And yet you claim you aren't a dumb obnoxious nigger? How peculiar.
>post ocean
k
You okay, ma'am?
Kek I never claimed shit you flaccid little boy! Come and look at muh big black dick collection! You know you want to,you dirty little faggot!
>Hold the fuck on.....
The reason I create the scenario if there was not a board for the /d/ related niches because /e/ and /h/ would've banned them. Is the same scenario as the common porn threads on Yea Forums that get rejected from their related boards but would be directed to their containment board.
This is an argument as to why it wouldn't work at least, instead of the usual ramble.
>Nothing is set in stone
>Except for your IQ.
That's roughly all IQs mate.
I’M FUCKING LITTLE LIIIIIIIIVID
'dont take away my precious fap threads just ignore them' what a retarded way of avoiding actually fixing a problem.
Does this Help?
You need to go back
They've devolved to insult apes, thread is dead. Good job bois, we showed those redditers
It’s only a problem for you kek. I luv me dirty traps and giant cocks
>insults
>complains about insults
clap, clap
What's the problem? It's a random board. Why is you lot going full SJW and policing the content of a RANDOM board. Post good OC or quit bitching fag.
That’s a nice picture. Why can’t b just be a whole board of pics like that?
I've made points that haven't been rebutted, do I need to have a one sided argument?
It’s just some reddit gang trying to destroy b for the umpteenth time. It never works and they will go away once they get hungry and mommy calls them in for their tendies.
Too busy clapping your moms ass cheeks
Make one you fucking idiot
Yes.
It’s all the backed up spunk. They really should jack off more.
Answer my question fag. Why are you going full SJW and censoring a random board? What a snowflake.
Nah it would be much easier just to force this board to accept my ideas and make it nothing but a pretty pictures of the ocean board.
>roughly all
In your case, there's no hope of it getting better. No amount of adjusting for the standard deviation is going to raise yours.
Go forth and fumble.
you literally agreed with my point in why an organic transition isn't practical...???? My claim was never that this would work but that I support their efforts in trying to bring back balance to Yea Forums
SHUTUP YOU HORRIBLE CUNT
If only there were a place for degenerate porn hm...
I lol'd, marry me
TRIGGERED
Well yes you have not made one point, you just asked.
>You think porn flood won't be replaced by something just as none oc?
This is the only thing you've said the entire discussion that weren't plain insults.
K,so how does this work? Do I mail my dick to you?
I literally didn't. It's impossible for me to literally agree with you, for one. Two, I said that it is absolutely possible for you to create an organic movement. You've said that improving and creating OC wouldn't be an organic transition at all- and I disagree, because of what I laid out for you in my reply.
You build it, and they will come.
>My claim was never that this would work
>you literally agreed with me
Which one? It can't be both. I either agreed with you, "literally", or your claim was that this would never work.
How about you kill yourself. OP is a faggot. Lurk moar.
Only thing that’s plain is your moms face while I fuck her
exterminatus these heretic fags
Alright man, just whatever. You stay a negative nancy and I 'try' to better this board.
Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out.
Yes yes, whatever mate.
Imagine at any point in your life your "mission" is to try and "improve" a random board by policing its content like an essjaydubya. Get a load of this guy. If you ever feel bad you can at least remember guys like this and say to yourself "at least I've never been this low!"
Why do you insist on staying? What even brought you here?
>Why are all threads porn?
>make an interesting non-porn thread
>interesting non-porn thread
>outstanding_move.avi
But for real with as much traffic passes through here there is no reason some of it can't be moved to other nsfw boards.
You're the other side of the same coin friendo. Same time gets spend arguing for or against.
>Yea Forums didnt switch to porn board over night it took years to get to the state its in, a more organic change would take much more time and effort and it would be unwize to put all that on someone who just wants a fun place to go too.
ur response
>So like I've been saying, it's pointless.
what does this mean? What are you saying is pointless because the only think in my reply that I said was pointless was an organic transition.