Why do people like this fucking guy so much...

It would be doable if niggers would stop having kids and get off welfare, but since they don't it isn't. That's the problem everything the left wants to give away for "free" is in fact NOT free and will be paid for by people who work for a living and don't have kids they can't pay for.

welfare doesn't exist in america retard, hasn't since the Clinton era

your brain is full of retarded fox news talking points

You underestimate how many people are basically self-centered leeches, who have zero regard for their fellow man's freedom, and believe they have a right to take from other people whatever they envy.

>billionaires
>working for a living

lmao

shut the fuck up ayn rand

>welfare doesn't exist in america

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it doesn't, no matter how many reaction images you post

Oh yeah I forgot, calling it "welfare" is racist now. What do we call it, "public assistance"?

Best look at the tax rates of countries with universal health care. Everyone seems to forget that part...

This

neetbux

based

>muh we can't pay for it
>muh economics 101
>more strawmen

This is of course *sniff* pure ideology.

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who gives a shit how much taxes are if you get a good quality of life

You don't have shit, do you?

It's not just the tax rate, you have to also keep in mind that we have millions of niggers that REFUSE to get off welfare and put on fucking condoms. So this "free" healthcare is going to be paid for by people who have jobs and aren't generally useless monkeys.

Changing the names of government redistribution doesn't change what it is.
Used to be called welfare, and now it's called TANF, SNAP, and Section 8.
Same shit with different names.

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Not true

dude, you just described every politician ever

You're an idiot.

youre the idiot here

italy hasn't had a functioning democratic govenrment since before jesus but they've had public healthcare since the 1800s

they also have the longest life expectancy

Feel free to fucking move there then since Italy is since a great place to live. I'm not paying for Tyrone and his niglets to have ((((free)))) healthcare.

Singapore is a multi-cultural state with one of the highest population densities in the world

they have public healthcare and they enjoy a longer lifespan than Americans while paying less for healthcare

if you don't believe America can accomplish what Singapore does, you don't believe in America and you should get the fuck out of our country.

One of the lowest taxed States in the US (Wyoming) results in a tax of around 15% on $30k

UK same income is 17%

So you're shitting your pants over 2%

you're the one who should get the fuck out, America can accomplish this no matter how racist you are

The US can handle single payer. It can handle welfare for all. It can handle any amenity or social institution any other country has.

Those of us that actually pay taxes and therefor would be footing the bill for all of this shit do not want it to. Why should we? There is absolutely nothing to gain for us. And no, empathy for my fellow man is not an argument. My fellow man is a bunch of assholes. And since none of you welfare niggers can actually vote because you are all felons, it is going to stay that way.

poor republicans are moronic. straight up giving money to billionaires because they're racist

>He's full of shit and most of the stuff he promises isn't even doable or makes sense.
Welcome to politics. This is exactly how it works

I don't think you're wealthy enough to really be affected by these social programs. You'd gain so much, you could have kids and feel secure that they could get schooling and healthcare

if you really think you'd be made poorer by these programs, show the receipts, I wanna see if you're really above $100,000,000 net worth

great thing repubcucks are banning abortions then!

Just admit you're a fucking nigger that wants white people to pay for your fucking healthcare. I love how you low IQ monkeys complain about whites every fucking day yet refuse to leave us alone. Why the fuck don't you move to fucking Africa if you hate whites so much?

Their economy is for shit and their sales tax is 22%. Would you like to pay 22% on everything you buy? Free healthcare is obviously not free.

No different than the old

'Not socialism, but dEmOcRaTiC SoCiAlIsM guize' argument

Where people are enslaved more than they already are, we just vote for a different face on the thieves now and then.

It absolutely benefits you. If you lose your employment suddenly and get injured, hey, you still have medical care. Even if you are employed, your insurance might not cover certain procedures or leave you in significant debt. This wouldn't happen under a single payer system. I really wish people would love at other countries before thinking they know enough to form an opinion on this.

who the fuck cares how strong the economy is if you can't afford basic healthcare

We've deposited 25 rubles for you, comrade!

lots of countries can accomplish this, why do you have so little faith in america?

single payer healthcare is better for small business too. also if we replaced unemployment insurance with a stronger safety net small businesses could afford to hire more workers

Based as fuck

>He's full of shit and most of the stuff he promises isn't even doable or makes sense.
Exactly like Trump, but for liberals.

Why don't you? You clearly want to live somewhere with no taxes. Most of those are in Africa. Go see your tax less utopia.

I had it right the first time - you are an idiot.

Fuck off. I "actually pay taxes" just like you and I want single payer, UBI and other shit to prop up not just my fellow man but myself. Sick of medical expenses. Dont group all taxpayers in your "us" group; just because you don't like the idea doesn't mean every other taxpayer agrees with you.

Again, it's not about what can or cannot be accomplish. Why should I have to pay for someone else's healthcare? And especially niggers and spics that are on welfare and don't put a fucking penny back into the system? That is ridiculous. Or even worse "free" college so Tyrone and Juan can get a degree in nigger history, blunt rolling and whee pepo iz ev1lz. Fuck that shit.

You really gonna out yourself as a retard like this

i'm sure all the dead people are really happy the dow is at 26000 LMAO

I agree with other user.
The tally is 2:1 as of now, nigger.

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>thinking voting actually changes things
top kek user good one

i have a question, how do these people who live on welfare avoid paying sales tax

you said right here:
>don't put a fucking penny back into the system

unless you can prove these people don't pay sales tax somehow, your statements are false, what's more they reek of bias and /pol/ bullshit

*is a sick and dying person*

thank god for economy, i'm glad to see number go up

Are you so stupid that you think only millionaires pay taxes?

If I lose my employment suddenly I will be fine because I am not a retard and save money. Additionally I have skills that will allow me to find another job almost immediately. I am not exaggerating, five of my coworkers got fired for negligence that almost killed someone two weeks ago and they all already have jobs in the same field. If I am injured I am fine not working until I am capable of doing so again because my wife is also highly skilled and well paid but in a different field. We can pay all of our bills and save money with a single income because we do not let our bills get above what we can easily afford.

The only reason any of these social programs are necessary are if you are a social leech or an idiot with money.

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You just want America to somehow just do it. Free healthcare for all. Tell us how you would finance it? Where does the money come from to cover the costs?

Even if they pay sales tax they TAKE far more money from taxpayers than they put in. I don't give a shit if niggers pay sales tax or not. I am NEVER going to support free healthcare or college, especially when niggers and spics refuse to put on fucking condoms and major in fake bullshit. Wear a fucking condom and get a REAL degree than we'll fucking talk, until then fuck off.

this might have something to do with it

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GIB ME FREE

Sales tax is at the state level and below dumbass. There are five states that no one pays sales tax in. Sales tax has absolutely nothing to do with federal taxes

The current tax system minus absolutely all corporate welfare.
web1.boisestate.edu/socwork/dhuff/Nasw.htm

wait so you enjoy paying all the taxes and think that these billionaires should get off without contributing to the society that makes them so rich?

>most of the stuff he promises isn't even doable or makes sense.
what part of "stop giving tax money to billionaires who pay no taxes and instead use it for government programs that benefit everyone" is too complicated for you?

so make it a federal sales tax, bing bing bong so simple retard

>they TAKE far more money from taxpayers than they put in.
[citation needed]
[real citation you retard, not fox news and breitbart]

Weed

You really have no reading comprehension at all do you?

pretty sure deleware doesn't pay sales tax.

no welfare in that state im sure

lol

Define “real degree”

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OR we could tell niggers to get off welfare and wear condoms? But that's too much to ask for, obviously.

nah I do, bernie wants to tax the billionaires to make things easier for you. you're not nearly rich enough to not benefit from these programs. if you're against bernie, you're for millionaires not paying taxes

Anything that requires math, which niggers are to fucking dumb to do

>If I lose my employment suddenly I will be fine because I am not a retard and save money

Do you actually know nothing about insurance? If something goes wrong, your insurance lapses and you have a medical problem, you're absolutely fucked. It doesn't matter if you saved money, any significant problem will cost more than you saved.

>Additionally I have skills that will allow me to find another job almost immediately. I am not exaggerating

Your argument is basically, nothing bad could possibly happen to me, I couldn't possibly have a run of bad luck that could lead to bankruptcy. 643k employed people file for medical bankruptcy per year. I'm sure it won't be you though, fucking moron

it seems like from this thread everybody who is against bernie is just a racist lmao

How can we believe that a jew doesn't want all our shekels?

>literally any degree requires math

Also, trades require math but are diplomas

They'll find a workaround, they always do.

Majority of black college graduates get degrees in subjects with clear career paths, medical administration, community planning, law, public administration, HR management, criminal justice.

You were bullshitting based on your prejudice?

>Why do people like this fucking guy so much?
communists arent people user.

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torture them at guantanamo to find out where all the money is and then we invade whatever island tax haven they're hiding it in

bing bing bong so simple

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Yes lol. It's fucking funny how much more money corporations take than personal welfare does. Hilarious. I have to laugh so I don't seem angry about it.

>clear career paths...
>community planning
>public administration

so, shit-tier sociology, liberal arts, ethic studies, etc

oil subsidies each year are worth like 3 years of the NASA budget alone

He wanted to raise taxes on anyone making over 75k a year also. My taxes would have gone up 15% and I'm FAR from 'rich'.

it seems like most of the right arguments against bernie and his policies amount to little more than pejoratives and insults

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yes

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He's honest.

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How do you propose to stop it? Your solutions are based on things you wish would happen, not things that will happen.

cant deny that.

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I'm talking about math that is Calc or higher, not fucking algebra that niggers STILL complain about having to do

you'd benefit way more from the programs than you'd give up i mean just look at healthcare costs and school costs.

it's very old economics. like adam smith shit. you nationalize inelastic commodities and liberalize elastic ones and luxury goods

why are you against this?

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>Majority of black college graduates get degrees in subjects with clear career paths

No they fucking don't. Most niggers in college get bullshit degrees and/or shit that is ridiculously easy. I'm a CS major and I remember my intro to programming class had like 10 or so niggers. By the time I got to Data Structures we had 1 nigger in that class out of like 20 people. In my Calc 2 class we had none.

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No I wouldn't. I'd have to pay tens of thousands of dollars per year for the rest of my life. Most of it would go into the governments hands to 'administer' the programs. We would be literally paying millions of dollars throughout our lives for the government to leech off of us.

He never had the support that the New York and Beltway media suppose he had. Often politics comes down to a choice, one or the other. In 2016 he was the "other." Democrats across the country had serious and prescient reservations about Hillary Clinton, and Bernie was the repository for protest votes. To be fair his campaign was very adapt at crafting a narrative of "magic" built on a mix of idealism and enlightened populism. But for those of us who don't live our lives on Twitter and don't rely on cable news for our information feed, we always knew he was more of a temporary novelty than a serious contender.

And now in the 2020 primaries there are more options for Democratic voters. He's bleeding support. His fundraising and his support is all going to mainstream liberals. And that's appropriate. While the Democratic party certainly has a few socialists, they're definitely in the minority. The Democratic Party is a party of mainstream liberalism. It's Bernie's ideology that sets him apart from the rest of the candidates. And he's discovering that there aren't enough socialists in the Democratic Party to nominate one of their own.

Oh, and he can't do math. Sorry, Bernie bros. Have some beautiful pussy for comfort.

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Of course then these same fucking niggers cry because no one other than Walmart will give them jobs

Not him but an economics student none the less.
The reason you dont inelastic commodities is because it does away with the incentive for efficiency.
Literally the exact fucking problem the soviet union had throughout its duration.
If you're job is just to produce "x good" there is no reason for you to produce "x good" any cheeper then you have to
If you're job is to outcompete everyone else producing "x good" to stay in business you will relentlessly attempt to find new efficient ways to do like youre life depended on it (because under complete capitalism, it does)
capitalism is nothing more or less then darwinism applied to economics
its why capitalism makes more intelligent people and communism makes slaves.

Your anecdote doors not reflect the reality. 14% of graduates from computer and information systems degrees nationwide are African American.

Community planning, i.e. civil engineering, is not a liberal arts degree and involves a lot of math and forward planning. Public administration contains A LOT of legal framework and a vast amount of math. You don't know what you're taking about though because you don't understand university.

Nice to see the right continue to talk out of their ass because they don't like being proven wrong about black people.

You're using the wrong picture op

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>14% of graduates from computer and information systems degrees nationwide are African American

Sauce?

>Community planning, i.e. civil engineering, is not a liberal arts degree and involves a lot of math and forward planning

Please show me where the fuck "community planning" requires "a lot of math", because I know you dumb niggers think algebra is considered advanced math.

We simply haven't applied communism in the right fashion.

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28th Amendment
"Congress shall make no law respecting provision of federal funds to private businesses; or proposing budgets involving the provision thereof; or proposing favourable tax treatment thereof."

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B-but user, blacks get degrees in STEM and are really good at math

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Because lazyfags like us love it when old people promise us free stuff, but some are stupid enough to fall for it.

Nothing to say about this, huh nigger?

But by all means, keep telling everyone niggers can do math even though we all know they cannot

cew.georgetown.edu/cew-reports/african-american-majors/#full-report

>He's full of shit
How do?
>and most of the stuff he promises isn't even doable or makes sense.
Neither of those are true, what specifically do you have a problem with?

It involves more maths than mechanical engineering, more forward planning than structural engineering, and contains elements of both these to boot. Do you really not understand what this subject is?

>Those of us that actually pay taxes and therefor would be footing the bill for all of this shit do not want it to.
I pay taxes and I want those things. A healthy country is a happy country. An educated country is a prosperous one.

Unless you want America to be a country of sick retards?

It says RIGHT THERE that niggers major in fake bullshit that doesn't make money, which is exactly what I said. And I'm suppose to be in support of "free" college why again? When those subhumans can't even do fucking algebra.

No retard, that isn't how math works.

First of all, England has an ~20% tax rate, at the least taxed. It usually averages a bit higher.
Secondly, regardless of how much I am taxed, putting money into universal healthcare and welfare takes it out of schools, park services, all of that good shit.

>It involves more maths than mechanical engineering

LOL, just stop. We get it, you love niggers and will defend them at all costs, but lets not pretend niggers are smart and can do math. I mean now you're just being dishonest.

lmao. By the Normandy Landings The Soviets were on their way to crush the Germans all by themselves.
I'm not even a Communist here, you are just wrong.

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It simply hasn't been applied without corruption.

people still believe politics are real and not an act, and that the shit politicians promise has anything to do with their true intentions?

I'm still waiting for you to show me that fucking course load with all that "math" that you need for community planning. And no, Tyrone, algebra is NOT advanced math.

If I ran a college, and the government had a blank check given to students, I would raise tuition 5000%.

this

Oh god, I don't care that i'm taking the b8.
These are awful.

Welcome to the cause, comrade!

So since people don't major in things you approve, the people who do should be shafted?

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fucking this. wow finally someone here actually understands economics

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refer to

Not him but courses vary from college to college

I run a business and if people had to buy my product and the government 'paid' for it, it's simply what I would do. Everyone would do this.

>>>((((corruption))))

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Fuck you guys I don't care about your shitty politics.
These are so incredibly wrong, and are exactly what fags in America think is the truth.

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You didn't answer my question. Why should I, a person that can do math above algebra, and that actually STUDIES and major in a real degree, have to pay for Tyrone's fake bullshit degree that doesn't require anything higher than algebra? Then I have to hear these fucking monkeys complaining because Amazon and Facebook won't hire and "train" them, whatever the fuck that means. The whole thing is fucking ridiculous.

(((corruption)))

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Jews will always gravitate towards running society. They already run america.

Only if the money was already ear marked for that, and your country and America change their budget every year/few years, so really you are more than likely already putting tax money away from those at various points. There are numerous places taxes can shift their distribution from, it doesn't have to take away from those.

this.

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>Russia first in everything except moon landing
>we wun space race

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What's your point? Just show me what "math" is required for community planning. I don't care what school it is either. I really want to fucking see this.

>Asks for source. Ignores that the source completely backs up the claim you asked to be sourced.
So do you admit that your bullshit anecdote about blacks studying ICT subjects is bullshit?

It doesn't matter that they don't make AS MUCH money if they make enough to pay off what they cost through taxes, which the majority of these degree subjects typically do.

Getting a jump start on crying about the next president?

>STUDIES and major in a real degree
I wasn't that other guy, sorry
A real degree varries from individual to individual, also you'd be getting paid through too. The 'I got mine, go get yours' mentality is understanable, but wrong.

idk he seems honest by the standards of a politician. only trump seems more honest imo

I think the things he's pushing for ARE DOABLE, but I don't think his plans are actually viable. I'm fairly sure he isn't running seriously, but using the run for president to get some ideas out before he kicks the bucket.

>"Fuck you goys!"
"I dont care about your shitty politics"
"These are so incredibly wrong and are exactly what fagis in American think is the truth"
"Do you even watch BBC?"
"Lmao fuck white people im an intellectual that doesnt give a shit about things like race"

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Would rather pay taxes to help secure the health of me and my children, then paying billions to a bloated military industrial complex and their neverending greed fueled bloodlust for endless wars.

I'd rather invest in the education of my fellow countrymen, then giving all my shekels to Israel.

I'd rather spend money on rebuilding critical infrastructure, than buoying the fossil fuel industry with handouts and corporate welfare.

exactly. any time the government steps in to manipulate a market with stimulus and subsidies, it inflates prices for everyone. source: education, healthcare, etc...

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I don't know, user, That wasn't my point My point is that you could probably find a college offering that degree with little to no math, and another with a lot. Try doing some google.

Sorry, but final, take home amount in Wyoming is -15% according to THEIR OWN STATE TAX CALCULATOR.

Take home tax for the SAME AMOUNT in the UK (as in $30,000, so £23,400) is -17% according to the UK take home tax calculator.

That is literally how math works. There is a 2% difference in the total tax on $30,000 between the lowest taxed US state and the UK.

>the stuff he promises isn't even doable or makes sense.
examples?

>So do you admit that your bullshit anecdote about blacks studying ICT subjects is bullshit?

No because it's true. Niggers are fucking stupid and refuse to do any majors that are difficult and require you to study. Walk into any math class and you can count ON ONE HAND how many niggers are in there. And that's if there are any niggers at all. It's a fucking joke and I'm sick of these fucking monkeys constantly bitching because they can't get a job that pays more than 30k a year with their fake bullshit degrees.

this indeed.

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In the UK that 30k is worth about double what is it the in US

Germany had the better army and better gear and still lost due to them fucking up the strategic and logistical plans.
Just on the idea that German genes are superior.

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Sounds like you're just a butthurt racist that can't deal with other people complaining about their situation.

>Doesn't know how many calculations are involved in civil engineering projects.
Okay, it's fine that you're dumb but please don't shout about it. All you seem to have is a hatred of black prove and an insistence in spite of actual statistics that none of them can do math. Your argument is invalid.

I don't give a shit because this is still a free country and companies are not in the business of giving away jobs to niggers with degrees in weed smoking and we waz kingz. I'm just saying I am not going to pay for niggers to get fake fucking degrees.

>It's not true
I just have you evidence that it is. You are now being ignored as the ignorant cunt that you are. Thanks for playing.

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>soviet union outnumbers germany 2 to 1
>English empire outnumbers germany 5 to 1
>America outnumbers germany 3 to 1
>soviet union supplied by america throughout war
>germany virtually singlehandedly takes over more of russia of anyone since napoleon while fighting simutaneously fighting off the two biggest most productive capitalist nations in the world who fucking fed the soviet union throughout the god damn war
Yeah lol
germans were fucking retards
get owned jerrys
lmao!

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source: stormfag.com

No it isn't. I also showed that I converted the currency.

Ah amount equal in value to $30,000 in Wyoming is taxed only 2% more in the UK.

This is a fact.

I don't think you've ever paid for anything, ever. Untill you're willing to look at the bigger picture you're going to suffer too.

What bigger picture is that, nigger lover? I'm still waiting for you to break down how paying for FAKE bullshit degrees that niggers get benefits me or anyone else.

Pretty sure the eruo and pound are currently worth more than the US dollar and that was my only point. Which is also a fact. Tho it's 1.27.

You still have no solution, do you?

There's more than just black people you don't like wanting to go to college who can't afford it or probably won't ever be able to.

What is the disadvantage for you if more people are educated?

At least they got a degree.

If destruction was so obviously inevitable? Why did Germany start these wars?
>inb4 you try to say the allies started the war.

What's stopping these people from getting financial aid and loans? Why should I have to pay for niggers to get degrees in nigger history and blunt rolling?

He's a liberal superhero. So many ideas, and no way to pay for them without a huge tax increase. Fuck this guy, and Yang. They're both full of shit.

Because society is always self correcting.

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>At least they got a degree
We're reaching levels of NPC that shouldn't be possible. So wasting money on useless shit is good just as long as the gobermint says it's (((accredited)))

> country won the space race

What does this have to do with the USSR?

If you seriously think it's ridiculous to think that free college is possible, you are just misinformed. The government already funds most elementary and high schools in the country and it only costs 6% of our national budget. We spend 57% on defense. I'm sure if we cut military spending by 7-10% we could make all community college free and public. The end result of course being a more well educated country.

And if you think losing 10% of our military budget would leave us vulnerable to invasion or something, I recommend studying politics and geography.

As for healthcare, giving everybody free health care would be a little pricey, however, we currently have a pretty fucked up system. My older brother became an invalid and had to wait ages to get SS while I watched some fat bitch collect SS for "Agorophobia". My suggestion there would be restructuring, which is what would happen in reality. Obamacare is kind of a buzzword at this point

Bernie isn't the best politician, but he's not promising pipe dreams. It's doable, but tough. He has said some dumb shit though lol, I'll give you that

They had a madman at the wheel.

Not the same guy, but he's pretty much right. Saw a high number of blacks in my GE classes and almost none later in my double major comp sci / math classes

user even a degree in gender studies from an accredited university is better than the big fat zero you got.

98% of the people posting here probably paid little to no taxes. A yone against his programs because if "muh taxes" are only being opposition because they are stupid or are told to by the corporate media they consume.

Ending corporate welfare alone would pump billions into our tax coffers. Last year Amazon got a refund. Think about that. A company posting billions in revenue got a tax refund while people like you and me owe.

Just print a bunch of money, what could possibly go wrong?

And my calculation accounts for this fact by converting the dollar amount to pounds before doing the UK take home calculations, so that the pound amount is of equal value to the dollar amount.

So the 2% stands.

Yeah... inheriting daddy's business and money was such a hard job...
I'd love to see if he even knows how to operate a can opener.

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>The government already funds most elementary and high schools in the country

And how is that working out?

Stuff like this will never be done in America thanks to the Republican party.

Jesus hated the jewish bankers too. To understand reality It's a bigger picture than just the world banks. It's too far gone for the world to make it back just the Sheep and the Goats among us. The deception is coming, The Gnostic Jews have orchestrated it with the fallen angels. CERN, Internet, MSM, All Entertainment, Jesuit Controlled Intelligence Agencies of the world. It's coming. What's coming? Disclosure, reconciling the puzzling ancient texts left by the Annunaki alleging we were seeded by aliens. It's NOT true, don't buy into it when it comes. Jesus was and is and forever will be the way. It's about relationship with him. Matthew 24:4-5
And Jesus answered and said to them, "See to it that no one misleads you. "For many will come in My name, saying, 'I am the Christ,' and will mislead many.

That post is the solution. Make a 28th.

Don't even bother with that nigger lover. He's just going to call you a racist even though EVERYONE that's been to college knows that niggers are dumb and cannot do BASIC fucking math.

Don't bother arguing with these libtard brainlets, show them statistics about minorities and they start whining about you being racist

that's because they had tons of government contracts and created jobs while you collect neet bucks and post on an image board you stupid retard

Reapportioning current tax revenue could pay for free college easily, we just spend way too much on our military. Many other countries have criticized us for focusing on National Security and Political Strength rather than investing in the well being of our citizens and infrastructure, and this is why. Hopefully you'll agree one day, friend

Cope harder while you pay back those student loans on your meme degree you cant find a job outside of retail with

Notice how he keeps saying the same fucking thing and apparently, there is a lot of (((math))) for community fucking planning. Because niggers consider algebra advanced mathematics.

You didn't seem to mind it when Drumpf did it to give rich people a tax cut.

Keep moving the goalposts trumpshit

>getting financial aid and loans?
Not everyone qualifies, I mean you're going to use the word 'nigger' every sentence but youre asking why they can't get loans? Get real.
Again, you're (and they will be too, at one point) helping them AND Other People. If it makes you feel better, impoverished white people, who have access to the least amount of finished aid of the people wanting to attend, but can't.

You should have to pay, and everyone should have to pay, because we owe it to the society that has allowed us to prosper. Also I'm pretty sure you can't get a degree in blunt rolling

No it's fucking not. All those niggers that major in fake bullshit are doing nothing but taking up space, resources away from REAL students and are wasting literally everybody's fucking time. They would be better off in trades or the military. Instead they get fake degrees and then chimp out because they find out they did nothing but waste their fucking time and can't get jobs outside of fucking Burger King.

3b dollar walls tho!

look at california, the most liberals most socialist states in USA... free universal health care for all including illegals... have the worst quality of life

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Great, everybody I know has a basic education including a rudimentary understanding of history, literature, and mathematics. Furthermore, I've seen hundreds if students learn valuable creative skills such as painting, singing, instrument playing, etc. Also, the government pays for many vocational schools where they teach kids to cook, weld, enter law enforcement, etc. It's not perfect, but it works pretty well in my experience. The only issue I've witnessed is apathetic students, and I dont think that has much to do with the government.

Don't fall off the edge of the earth!

Yeah because its so god damn obvious that allies didnt start the war right?
I mean britian obviously trully and deeply cared about the independence of Poland
Its not like the allies just let some despot take over and rule the poles for half a century after world war 2 or anything
lol
get rekt nazi scum

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>What's stopping these people from getting loans?
Being poor. Banks don't loan to the very poor. The very poor default too frequently. You've clearly never paid much attention to reality. Just because you or I can get loans doesn't mean everyone can.

And you're still pushing the bullshit that blacks only get 'fake' as useless degrees when most of the black graduates in the study linked to you earlier earned more than enough to pay off their tuition through taxes in their lifetime.

true.

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Yeah...you literally have to take calculus and/or finite math and statistics to get a degree. For most trades, you have to know trig

thanks, I lost

Dude, I took calc I-III and trig in high school.

Actually yes it is. A degree from a university looks good on a job application no matter what it is. God you trumpshits are fucking stupid lol.

You're literally a brainwashed NPC. If people wouldn't be willing to spend their own money on these supposedly valuable skills then they arent actually valuable.

EVERY single person that is "poor" can get loans for college. But of course a nigger lover like yourself doesn't know that. Any other fake news while we're at it? Keep on telling me how smart those niggers you love so much are, its hilarious.

I took trig when I was a sophomore lol. You opted for the easier classes didnt you?

>14% of ICT graduates

Keep making bullshit claims based on your hatred with no citation.

>posting "NPC" without irony

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That's an anecdotal experience, you should also consider the percentage of blacks in the area, which would also influence how many you say.

>it is valuable to teach children math, literature, history, the arts, and a trade
>"that's something a brainwashed NPC would say"

Are you seriously saying we shouldn't teach kids these things? Are you trolling?

>EVERY single person that is "poor" can get loans for college.
Do you know you need to apply for a loan, in which you show you can pay it off, something poor people typically can't do?

oh there's a citation for his hatred

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Rofl, you see what I mean. Niggers like this think fucking Calculus and Trig is hard.

>Why do people like this fucking guy so much? He's full of shit and most of the stuff he promises isn't even doable or makes sense.

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Nah us nigs can do calc fine, that guy is just a mongoloid

The government doesn't factor in your credit score for STUDENT LOANS. Again exposing yourself as the typical nigger lover dumbass. Not surprising of course.

How many history and art majors are there gonna be if theres no financial aid at all?

education loans are given by the US govt. you do not need to show you can pay it off

Why would jews want to control the media? I can't fathom a reason.

Teach them sure, have entire degrees dedicated to them? Hell fucking no. And then I'm suppose to pay for it with my fucking tax money? Fuck outta here.

Given that early universities never had funded places and most study at them was in the liberal arts, plenty.

Do you understand what value means? If it was valuable you wouldn't need to make it compulsory and have it subsidized by the government. Do you know why tech companies are willing to pay for people to learn CS? Because it's actually valuable you dumb nigger

Good. I might need to take out a loan for my 5th house.

I'm advocating for more financial aid, not none. I think you may have misunderstood me friend

you realize we had obamacare for 8 years and even when you rednecks had a republican president you still couldnt successfully get rid of it?

bernie is to white and to male for the democratic party

>fox news talking points

>brings up clinton like a trumptard

the irony

Here I edited in a little bit you left out.

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Exactly, it's fucking ridiculous that niggers are demanding that tech companies hire more niggers and yet they REFUSE to get degrees in CS or STEM. Because anything above algebra and requires you to actually STUDY is too much for them to handle.

And I'm saying that's retarded. Clearly your meme degree didnt help with making inferences while reading

yeah,thats all we need.more idiots with useless college degree's who are flipping burgers for a living

I don't subscribe to Randian theories of worth. I don't conflate worth with the generation of revenue. A child learning as much as they can has inherent worth to me, as I consider the accumulation of knowledge inherently good. Furthermore, a more well educated populace translates to a more forward-thinking and reasonable society. There is certainly a place in society for learning for learning's sake. I am sad that you disagree with me on this

I’ll admit, math is not my strong point. Also, all I said was that you needed those for degrees. I have two degrees and working on a trade diploma.

Untrue. Thousands of potential students a year are denied a federal loan due to having no credit history at all. Go do done research before you make false claims.

>14% of ICT graduates
Ignorant cunt :)

Based on what? These are literally nothing but platitudes. And who the fuck is talking about that dumb cunt Ayn rand. You need some tangible measure of value if you're talking about tax policy you fucking idiot

We look at life and worth differently. That cannot be mended with an argument. Have a nice life, man

The vagina is right.

Just form a decent center left coalition behind any candidate that can speak coherently for 4 years and put out the dumpster fire.

The reading comprehension in these posts is a good point against funding public education

>History of the entire world
Education has improved every country it has touched. Every single one. Not one country has become worse for implementing more education.

>Thousands of potential students a year are denied a federal loan due to having no credit history at all

No they are fucking not. Why do you fucking niggers feel the need to fucking lie so damn much? Damn this is ridiculous.

I dont know maybe so they could create decades and decades worth of holocaust propaganda
raising youth in fear of being called nazis to the point where the gladly accept the domination of their jewish masters without question and willingly submit to their people to an actual genocide through invasion
but the fuck do i know
im just some crazy reactionist nazi whos views dont have any basis in reality.
right?

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They are though. The fed doesn't loan to everyone who applies.

Unless you're saying they do and can somehow prove it?

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>leaves bit about raping german women and children in
communists never to change do they?
pedos gotta feel ya i guess.

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For one you're pulling this out of your ass and two this has nothing to do with whether education is actually valuable in any economic sense. Why is it that students who fail to complete a degree by only a few classes have immensely lower employment prospects than those that graduate? It's not like youre magically getting the actual skills when you walk across the stage at graduation

The problem, though, is that we have hoards of niggers and spics that major in worrthless and fake bullshit and now they're demanding that white people pay for their own fucking education. Stop getting degrees in fake nigger bullshit and then MAYBE we can talk about "free" college. Until then though you can shove it up your nigger asses.

>Right?
Yup. And you paint ever more elaborate theories when evidence cross up to the point that you deny even the clearest of evidences to the point nobody in their right mind will debate you because you impose special conditions for proof that change as the argument goes on.

>14% of ICT graduates
Ignorant cunt :)

I didn't say everyone, I said POOR people. You done being a retarded cunt?

Theres also no reason we couldn't just invest a fraction of the money in libraries and these niggers could educate themselves on gender meme studies if it's really that valuable. Liberals literally just fail to comprehend basic economics

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Really, promises things that are not doable?

Where is the fucking wall?
Is Hillary in jail?
Is Isis extinct yet?

All politicians lie, but some have hope, and some have debts.

Well that actually happened, so why would I remove it?

they are denied federal AND private student loans depending on how much their parents make though, and some parents don't give a fuck or can't manage money, and then you're fucked until you turn 25, I tried to go to school when I was 19 and was denied everything because combined my parents made over 100k a year, but they would not contribute to my college tuition, i ended up working 9pm to 5am going to school 7am to 3pm, then sleeping until work for a year before dropping out because it was fucking bullshit, came back at 25, got my fafsa filled out and now I have my associates.

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You didn't even establish the criteria by which you determine something to have worth. I assumed since you referenced a revenue-generating job that physically benefits society as an example of something valuable that you agree with Ayn Rand, who has said almost exactly that hundreds of times.

I believe that something doesn't need to have a direct external benefit to have value. For example, a forest has value aside from what it does to serve the earth. The joy experienced by a human who enters a forest and appreciates its beauty has value to me. I understand if we have different understandings of the concept, but just understand that you are advocating for a robotic society in which a man's worth is determined by his ability to complete work. If that sounds like something you want, then we just disagree, man.

That being said, I've seen Walt Whitman do a hell of a lot more for people and society than the sheet metal factory down the road

>Pulling this out of your ass
Nope. Go look at the economic state of the US prior to mandatory education. It improved. Drastically.

As did crime rates. As did employment. Patented inventions.

You can't prove education has ever had a negative economic impact because it hasn't.

Which library can you go to get certified in a way you become more employable?

You do understand that your parents have NO obligation to pay for your fucking college education right? Next time stop being such an entitled little bitch

Are you? Everything so far you've said has come out of your ass.

Worked for Trump.

Your parents make almost double the median household income and you still want the government to pay for your retarded meme degree

All this haranguing for nothing. Much of the American public see Bernie as a conduit for introducing socialism into the system. That's never going to change, so Sanders will once again be outside looking in.

Shitty bait desu

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Notice how he left that part out. "Daddy PLEASE pay for my faggy English degree". I wouldn't pay a fucking penny either if my son wanted to study fake bullshit.

Thanks, Newt.

Might be in an area where the cost of living puts them in a position where they can't or aren't reasonably able to.

This is such a non-answer.

Not once did I say or seem like I am entitled to their money, my whole point was that the Student loans and FAFSA. will Deny you a loan, similar to his statement of "you don't have any credit history" untill you turn 25, then magically they will throw all the money at you.

I appreciate the irony of this post

>14% of ICT graduates
Ignorant cunt :)

Please, keep posting that niggers all get fake degrees when they are a more than representative share of ICT graduates. A greater proportion of ICT graduates are black than they are a proportion of the population.

Your ignorance is funny and easily proven.

FAFSA is a Federal loan, and you must pay it back. no matter what, the only way out of it is death. you cannot declare bankruptcy over it. like private bank loans.

Where the hell do you live that your parents can't pay for CC on a 100k a year salary?

user we live in a world where everything we know is dictated to us by ((corperations))
I doubt you even seriously deny this fact.
Book publishers, the ones who make text books for schools?
they are owned by people.
People who in all likelyhood are just as biased and opinated as anyone else
and are even more likely to corrupt the truth in their interest since they have the power to do so.
As a result we have very little ability to prove anything about our past true or false.
What we can do however is verify statements about the world today, as with the rise of social media
virtually everyone is a potential source able to report the truth to the masses (which interestingly enough is why (((they))) are trying so god damn hard to shut it down)
And the truth about the world today is that it is virtually completely run by people of jewish decent
despite being 2 percent of the population
jews are 4 of the 9 supreme court justices
were chairmen of the fed for 5 unbroken generations (untill trump)
own, run, and work in basically every major bank and media outlet in the western world
and have extremely disproportionate power in politics
one might even become president soon.
Now you can read from that what you will.
But it should also inevitably color how you view what you were taught in history
when a guy with a name like "steven spielberg" is making shinnlers list
it might be time to start questioning how fucking biased he is.

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THIS is the response of the most ignorant segment of our society.

find it funny you immediately jump to "english degree"

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fair.

Probably a place with a high cost of living, CA, and NY come to mind. It's not as much as you're making it out to be, specially since it's a combined total.

Okay what major was it then? Likely something equally as useless.

Racism... the only thing you have to rally around.

ITT one racist keeps claiming niggers get fake degrees and gets btfo by the same statistic he has failed to refute every time he brings it up, and proceeds to never reply to that statistic because he knows he has nothing.

:)

You can take CC courses for like 300 dollars a piece. Even with a minimum wage job you can afford a full time semester after a month of savings. There's no excuse.

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No YOU should leave. Your anti-American attitude is unwelcome.

Computer Systems Technology
which i agree. it is totally worthless.

How many companies offer tuition assistance for English lit and gender studies? None because they need people with actual fucking skills retard

Community college is 1800-2500 /3 Months
Cheapest place you can afford get where i live. ~$600 / mo not counting utilitys. and minimum wage is $8

My last CC semester cost 2600 dollars

Stop lying, it's pointless

i think everyone saying it costs X ammount, did it 20 years ago.

It's sad that China is just about the only thing standing against their complete world domination. Their plan to enslave the world economically has worked. I guess no one else stood a chance.

And yet
>14%
>Of
>ICT
>Graduates

Stay mad racist unable to refute the truth.

Posting to say fuck jews

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Would you look at that. As soon as I posted the 14% of ICT graduates statistic the racist ignored me. Again.

Have a nice night ignorant cunt :)

China isnt standing against them dude.
They own they're central bank same as ours.
Thats why they let all the manufacturing go there throughout the 90s and 2000s
they were supposed to be the new world power, just like we took over from the brits.
The only opposition to (((them))) is us
there is no one else.

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