How come the West never manage to produce anything that comes even close to the quality of these purified kinos?

How come the West never manage to produce anything that comes even close to the quality of these purified kinos?

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>>Yea Forums

The Wire, Breaking Bad, Chernobyl

America doesn't take animation seriously and doesn't know how to utilize it effectively.

wrong neighborhood, fren.

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Are you lost? This is the television/film board.

>kino
people use that word too lightly. Out of the three you posted, only LOGH has any true claim to be "kino" and even the most die hard fan of the show would have to admit that 80% of the episodes are tedious sludge and the show's high points are few and far between.
Attack on Titan is just another mecha anime with meat suits instead of robots.
The Death Note manga was clinically interesting, the cartoon is 6/10 cheap animation.

Also FUCKING NICKELODEON produced Avatar The Last Airbender. which shits from the heights of Mt Olympus on the cartoons you've posted

>Also FUCKING NICKELODEON produced Avatar The Last Airbender. which shits from the heights of Mt Olympus on the cartoons you've posted
If anything should be called a cartoon, then it is Avatar. And it isn't better than anime just because it's high quality by American standards and baby's first pseudo-battle shounen. It's massively overrated.

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Is the joke that you can't read a bell curve?

>Attack on Titan
>Death Note
are you implying this filth is even close to the level of LOGH? If so you need to fucking kill yourself

Who says its bell curve?

>Also FUCKING NICKELODEON produced Avatar The Last Airbender. which shits from the heights of Mt Olympus on the cartoons you've posted
Holy shit I knew that Yea Forumscksuckers are delusional but this is on a really different level

You haven't watched all of Shingeki No Kyojin.

Yea Forums only talks about waifu trash, they don't actually discuss anime

I have and to be perfectly honest I rate it 7/10
its not garbage but far from being kino
story is a convoluted and dragged out mess
characters are all uninteresting and cliche as fuck (especially Levi the Hedgehog)
the great animation and choreography of the action scenes saves it from being trash (since the manga does not even have that it really is garbage)

So you haven't watched all of the anime nor read all the manga, since you wouldn't say stupid shit like this if you did.
Or you are plain retarded.
Anyway, your opinion is trash and doesn't matter.

They discuss anime, but everyone there is braindead so it doesn't matter what they talk about.

shut the fuck up titantard. logh is a masterpiece of storytelling and characterization. attack on titan on the other hand is shallow shounen garbage

your response is typical for a butthurt titanfaggot
you are worse than narutards at this point

>haven't seen season 2 and 3
YIKES!

So I was right and you haven't watched all of it.

Shingeki No Kyojin only looks shounen in the first season and it improves a lot as the story progresses.

...

The joke is that you don't get this ebik maymay.

It is shounen from start to finish because it runs in a shounen magazine.

>i-it gets better when you reach season 3
If it takes that long for a series to get good than its a waste of time to even start watching it at all

>So I was right and you haven't watched all of it.
No you aren't you stupid asshole. I watched all of it and I am currently at the episode where Armin got resurrected and they are about to go down the basement.

So you basically admit that AoT is shounen trash. Got it.

And if you watch season 3 and still don't like it the fans will tell you that yeah, it might be bad, but it gets better later. Just watch season 4, just trust me bro. Just stick with it. Just power through it until you get to the good stuff. This isn't specific to AoT, fanboys are always using this terrible defense.

The start focus in shocking the watcher and presenting the world so it isn't as strong but it's necessary for the rest of the series to work.
In later seasons, the plot and characters get developed and the series shows its strengths and it go from decent to very good to one of the best after chapter 100

>he doesn't know about Marley
Sasuga desu

>moving goalposts
sasuga Titanfaggot

Anything that runs in a shounen magazine is shounen.

>Chad Eren next season

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>he doesn't know

logh is peak shonen

>next season
user....

bois for real
is Aot that good? i drop it on s2 i got bored with it ,i dont really care about the fight scenes i was watching for the mystery element (why did annie turn crystal? why there where titans inside the walls? whats in the basement?..) when it became combat focused i lost interest.

>levi same height as others

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>is Aot that good?
s1 9/10
s2 8/10
s3first 9/10
s3second 10/10

It's caused by perspective, and if the mangaka was suffering from height psychosis then he wouldn't have made him short.

>mfw there are people in this thread stupid enough to think that the eldians are jews and not the marleyans

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>these purified kinos

People who use expressions of this sort automatically forfeit any expectation of being taken seriously, OP.

Read the mango

Do European movies count as "western" or are you talking specifically about America?

>potato girl still alive

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Consider having intimate skinship with a feminine member of the human species, please!

everything not anime = western

Yes yes well done HOWEVER

you're a caliphate now, so no.

hey man leave her alone

Avatar

In that case the indie animation scene in Europe is pretty high tier, I would even say it is better than most eastern animations outside of a select few that really bend the medium of animation.

I'm not European, I'm just asking for the sake of clarification.

>In that case the indie animation scene in Europe is pretty high tier, I would even say it is better than most eastern animations outside of a select few that really bend the medium of animation.
This is a statement that could only have been produced through either extreme delusion or extreme ignorance.

Even indie Japanese animation is at this level:
youtube.com/watch?v=T2oa3C7paQM

Came here to post the same thing

I should say my favourite Jap animations are Mind Game and Angel's Egg to give an idea on what I am actually looking for in animation.

>to give an idea on what I am actually looking for in animation
2deep4u stuff that you can namedrop to make yourself look sophisticated?

Stuff that looks visually pleasing to look at and uses the fact it is animation to the full potential. I don't know what to say other than that.

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people told me this is turbogriddy full of important character deaths when it came out
now its been going for a while and every character that was profiled as important from the start is STILL ALIVE

well you shouldn't believe idiots then

What would it be otherwise?

I have watched season 1 and it's some seriously trite show. Having an engaging plot doesn't make up for the low budget animation, hamfisted drama/crying scenes and shitty nu-anime color palette.
It's a 6/10 at best desu

>have LoGH on my drive for a few months now
>tfw always postpone watching it because it looks so fucking boring from the pictures i've seen

>it's no cowboy bebop

If you think a hundred episode debate over the efficacy of democracy and autocracy is boring then you're simply not man enough to appreciate it.

if this is the best what the medium has to offer then we shouldn't worry about it

Cowboy Bebop has a claim at being "kino", yes

>low budget animation
sakugabooru.com/post?tags=shingeki_no_kyojin animated order:score

thank god for that

Now post any dialogue (or should I say blatant exposition) scene and count the frames

>being this normie

oh lol. bebop is low tier at best.

no

What argument are you trying to make? That only dialogue scenes should count in animation? That if a show doesn't always have the same level of quality then it's completely shit?

>why did annie turn crystal?
Self defense so erin can't eat her.

>why there where titans inside the walls?
They made the walls.

>whats in the basement?
Erin ate his dad.

Action scenes are 10% of the anime at best. It's ok for them to try to put more effort into them, but if the rest of the anime looks like shit and use very obvious tricks to hide it, then it's a shit anime. Every SnK episode feels like 2min of actions scenes (that get old pretty quick but maybe I'm just too old for shonen) drown in 20 min of shit

>whats in the basement?
Today they release new episode about basement.

Fuck outta here weeb, you're not welcome here

You people always grasp at straws to find some reason why an anime cannot ever be well animated and why its well-animated scenes cannot ever be taken into account, and then you jerk off to some American sitcom.

>erin

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But that's a very valid criticism when I can literally read the manga, then watch only the sakuga scenes and skip the countless hours of dull exposition/bad drama/cheap & ugly still frames. Is it not ?

It's almost never valid criticism because the logic is just "anime bad."

"anime" is a very large pool of things and yes most of it is bad, just like everything.

bitch I've wacthed countless anime

>most of it is bad
No it isn't.

So?

there's 900 episodes of the pokemon anime. you watched them? do you have any idea how small of a sample of the total amount of "anime" you like is?

>No it isn't.
How many animes are there?

A lot. What about it?

So that's a pretty retarded idea to discount my opinion on the sole basis that I dislike anime, moron
I wasn't answering to the guy saying most animeis trash saying that. Anime is indeed mostly trash I agree

You obviously dislike it. As you prove again with this false claim:
>Anime is indeed mostly trash I agree

basement is next episode

s3p1 doesnt really advance the plot but this season seems to be.

i have the same problem with the show as you, if you watch it for the action fine but for a mystery show the plot is waaaaaay too slow, especially for something thats still currently airing. if it was finished already at least you could just binge it

How many though? a hundred? a thousand? How many good animes can you think of? a dozen? How the fuck does a dozen good things out of a thousand mean that the whole thing is good? You might as well be saying that "movies are good" because you like some of them.

never seen logh, liked deathonte, thought attack on titan was alright. lets see where this is heading.

The manga is better than the anime, but it still isn't kino.

JoJo, on the other hand...

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it's going to take years to catch up to the manga. they're not even going to get to the time skip or the reveal that they're on an island this season.

If you think that it's possible for there to only be a hundred anime, it just goes to show how ignorant you are.

>How many good animes can you think of?
False dichotomy.

>a dozen? How the fuck does a dozen good things out of a thousand mean that the whole thing is good?
So you just decided to assume that I can only think of a dozen good anime. Very cool.

>If you think that it's possible for there to only be a hundred anime, it just goes to show how ignorant you are.
You fucking faggot you can't even tell me how many there are in total. I know it's several thousand.

>So you just decided to assume that I can only think of a dozen good anime. Very cool.
name more then, retard. Go ahead. You won't.

The island reveal is in the next episode you mong and the season will end at the ocean

>dismissing something as bad because it also happens to be entry level

Bebop is kino. Arguments can be made that Champloo is better, however.

That's true of nearly every medium though. If you really think that out of the 10000 anime out there there are more like 1000 worth a shot, you're delusional. And even then I doubt you'd be able to come up with 1000 good anime. Now if I truly disliked this I wouldn't have spent hundreds of hours watching it, looking for obscure shit that I don't even have friends to speak about with. Sometimes I even love shit shows because they speak to me, but they are still shit.
Just because you like something doesn't make it good, and just because SnK is some catchy shonenshit doesn't make it exempt of criticism

How would I know the exact amount and what does this have to do with what I said?

>name more then, retard.
I never mentioned any in the first place. Where are you trying to do with this? What are you attempting to argue about?

>That's true of nearly every medium though.
It's not true of anime, and 99,99% of people who have seen anime lack the intelligence to evaluate quality.

both are shit and forgettable degesuyo

>Very cool.
Leftist faggot

Projection. I said or implied nothing to suggest that I'm a leftist.

Is there a website to make an anime chart

>How would I know the exact amount and what does this have to do with what I said?
How the fuck can you say the entire medium is good without knowing the ratio between anime you consider good and "the rest of it"? If i give you a jar that's 90% shit and 10% chocolate will you say it's good?

Quit acting like destiny, faggot.

I never said the entire medium is good, but you thought that there may be as few as one hundred anime which means you're deeply ignorant.

considering you think SnK is some masterpiece I can safely assume you're not in the 0.01%

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projection? are you calling me a leftist? wait a sec, I know who you are. you're that one guy I blew the fuck out of the water because he didn't know what ad hominem meant despite claiming to have a master's in philosophy

you're a loser. I eat you

>>most of it is bad
>No it isn't.

inb4
>it wasn't me lol i just got here!

there's a website where you don't have to make your own anime chart, it's just got them all premade and sorted according to year and season

Show me where I said SnK is a masterpiece.

I never said anything to suggest that I'm a leftist, so since you suddenly accused me of being one it has to mean that you are one.

>I know who you are. you're that one guy I blew the fuck out of the water because he didn't know what ad hominem meant despite claiming to have a master's in philosophy
I have no idea what you are talking about. Go back to le reddit.

what to watch next? considering diebuster or patlabor on television

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>but you thought that there may be as few as one hundred anime which means you're deeply ignorant.

>he doesn't know what a range is

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Yes, I posted that. What about it?

get a load of this "debate me" faggot

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>I never said anything to suggest that I'm a leftist
Everything you've said suggests it. You're literally trying to sound like destiny.

>Space Corridors

Can't go around the stationary Death Star otherwise your ships will crash hitting an invisible wall. Nope, gotta make a deal with the Space Jews to invade the Alliance.

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Don't try to weasel your way out of this. You actually thought that there could be as few as a hundred anime. You know nothing.

>so since you suddenly accused me of being a leftist it has to mean that you are one.
jesus, what's wrong with you? seems you're too retarded to even be that guy it seems

I called you a leftist because you said "very cool"
>So, like, that's totally cool
>Yeah, really cool that you decided to attack queer bodies of color. Real cool dude. Real good look.
example leftist talk. either you're a leftist or your surrounded by them and their language patterns rubbed off on you

Nothing I said suggests it. You are a leftist and you are projecting.

>I called you a leftist because you said "very cool"
Which doesn't make me a leftist, which means you are a leftist and you are projecting.

>Show me where I said SnK is a masterpiece.
you should probably show us a valid reason to even consider SnK decent
Because so far all you do is blabbering about how anime is good but 99% don't get it like you're some 14y.o who just watched his first show.
In the meantime you also accused me of
>not liking anime
I do
>prefer american sitcoms
I don't
>hate SnK for no reasons
I gave my very valid reasons and you ignored them
>not know anything about anime
despite you not even having a rough estimate of how many anime are available atm

That's a lot of deflection my weeb friend

to be honest I'd have trouble naming 100 good anime. I feel like I'd be really scraping the bottom of the barrel

I can name 100 anime I watched. I can name 100 I enjoyed. 300 even. perhaps even a thousand. but I couldn't say with a straight face that half of them were really "good"

Asking you how many anime you think there are means i think that the lowest number i gave as an example is how many i think there is?

Wow, fuck, you got me, common core logic wins again.

You should watch the Patlabor movies if you have already watched the original OVA. They follow the same timeline. The Patlabor TV and 2nd OVA have it's own timeline. I love all of Patlabor though even the third movie so I'd recommend it.

Patlabor or Night on the Galactic Railroad

i was planning to watch them in release order, ive already seen the original ova and 1st movie

It must really be frustrating that the only way to make liberal ideas seem profound is to censor all other ideas.

>make a deal

No you just invade them too

>hey whatever my dude

>Because so far all you do is blabbering about how anime is good but 99% don't get it like you're some 14y.o who just watched his first show.
The fact that very few people have the intelligence to evalute anime does not somehow make me 14 year old. Do you have a brain injury?

>I do
Nope.

>I gave my very valid reasons and you ignored them
They were invalid.

>despite you not even having a rough estimate of how many anime are available atm
I never said I don't have a rough estimate and nobody even asked me for one. What does this even have to do with anything?

>That's a lot of deflection my weeb friend
I didn't deflect and you have no proof that I'm a weeb.

You thought there might be as few as a hundred anime. This happened. Get over it.

What are you talking about?

>Which doesn't make me a leftist, which means you are a leftist and you are projecting.
....no it doesn't. I hope this is an epic joke where you're making fun of the concept of projection, because in that case, well done. otherwise, I pity you.

Good job guys, we got trolled.

>lol no

What are you talking about?

>this is all you've seen
sad little zoomer

>whatever you say my dude

If you want you can do that just know that they are separate timelines and though they share many things they diverge a bit thematically.

It does. I said nothing to indicate that I'm a leftist, so the only explanation is that you're a leftist and you are projecting.

What are you talking about?

>my dude

What are you talking about?

Any thread where I get to shitpost about LoGH is a worthwhile thread for me.

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What are you talking about?

>What are you talking about, my dude?

thats all ive seen that ive rated 8 stars or more

and the 30 others are 7 right

Yes, what are you talking about? It's a very simple question. But I guess I shouldn't expect the anti-anime movement to be able to answer simple questions when they have nigger-tier intelligence.

i've only seen the holocaust anime and that was only worth one star.

what holocaust anime

I'm going to give you a pointer.

you can't just take every insult thrown at you and fit it into the box of projection that you've learned comes in handy. for some insults, it fundamentally doesn't make sense. I won't explain what that category is for you because that would ruin the fun of seeing you floundering about making the same ridiculous statement over and over so that there can be no doubt that you're retarded

>it's a simple question, my dude

I said nothing to indicate that I'm a leftist, yet you called me one anyway. That's projection. You can't argue against it.

me > you

>Attack on titan

Opinion discarded.
Most overrated bullshit in the dying decade.

You sound like a bitch either way.

I have won every argument in this thread and there's nothing you can say to contradict that.

that's sao

not quite but i try not to watch or stop watching shows i wont like

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I won by not being born with the genes that formed your brain. I only wish more people who challenged me were as stupid as you. it would make me look pretty good by comparison

You are projecting.

I am far more intelligent than you.

>crunchyroll subscriber starter kit

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>watched all of hoozuki s1 and only decided to drop it once he got to s2 despite it not really changing
>only 4 on the dropped list when apparently you drop things you don't like
?

Jokes on you while you mastered mimicking destiny i mastered the blade.

Why does this guy keep his hat on indoors? Not very polite

I am far above you, and many, many, many people are. you have a severe case of dunning-kruger. and I pity for you for it rather than detest you

i cant remember all of the shows i dropped, most of them were before i had mal and were forgettable. one of my exes had shit taste and kept trying to get me into girl anime

hoozuki s2 wasnt bad but it wasnt quite as good and 1 season was enough for me
i torrent everything

I don't know who Destiny is but I know that you're a leftist and you're projecting.

If you weren't a nigger-tier idiot you would be presenting on-topic arguments, but you are far too dumb for that.

>i torrent everything
fuck, you have bad taste.

F/a/ggots

>can't even work out who he's replying to anymore

>I don't know who Destiny is but I know that you're a leftist and you're projecting.
You just admitted you know destiny is a person. Nice try, my dude.

What are you talking about?

You're obviously talking about a person.

ok, recommend me something good then

inb4 boku no pico

You admitted that you know and watch destiny. It's a thing that happened. Just let it go, my dude.

Something good, with that list to go off of?

Porco Rosso.

Ok, show me where I admitted to knowing and watching him. Link to the post and quote the specific part where it happened.

sao gets pretty shitty ratings on pretty much every anime site out there so its not overrated

>ghibli
cringe and normpilled

Why are you so mad about it my dude? did you think you were fooling anyone?

I'm waiting. Where's your evidence?

He's watched other ghibli movies. I would tell him to watch LOGH if he had the braincells for it.

MD Geist

What should I watch next? I have seen almost every anime there is

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Sewayaki Kitsune no Senko-san

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Already watching it

nothing. it's about time you graduated from anime and tv in general and did something with your life.

its already on the list retard

seen the lensmen anime?

>MD Geist
already planning to watch, one of my friends favorites

Not bad but still far from this guy

myanimelist.net/profile/spacecowboy

cringe:
>watching anime
based:
>watching fat neets from planet earth play path of exile

It's impressive if someone really has watched this much, but at the same time their knowledge of anime may not be any better than someone who has seen five anime.

nah, there is no way this profile is real
i heard rumours this guy uses some kind of script that updates his lists automatically with every new episode and anime that comes out

There's always a bigger neet.

too bad, I was looking to make a chart

cope

Where was the "cope" in that post?

>projecting this much

>being this much of a leftist

How was that projection?

Projection.

So yeah, there was no "cope."

massive cope

There was no cope and you can't prove otherwise.

This thread just keeps proving once again that anti-anime activists are retards.

where's your evidence that it wasn't projection, todaY?

everyone here thinks you're a retard

Explain how it is projection to ask someone that question.

I am far more intelligent than any of you retards.

This visuaL tandeM voguE just won't stop projecting.

Show me where I have projected.

the absolute leftism of you

Kinoest of the kino.
youtube.com/watch?v=ypzPw2DHes0

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You are a leftist and you are projecting.

written by an obvious pedophile. no thanks.

cope

Attack on Titan was an absolute borefest, like they're having 5 minute conversations in the middle of battles all the time.

First and only time I'll try anime.

What?

There was no "cope," and you didn't even attempt to prove your previous accusation that I've been "coping." Dumb anti-anime nigger.

Because you didn't like this one single anime, you will never try another anime? What kind of logic is that?

I said:
>written by an obvious pedophile. no thanks

How long does it take for LOGH to get good

Anyway, utena and eva are the true anime kino

>Dumb anti-anime nigger.
Pure projection, my dude. I never once indicated that I am anti-anime. THEREFORE! You must in fact be anti-anime!

Fucking anti-anime nigger.

You wouldn't be engaged in this argument if you weren't part of the anti-anime faction. Dumb nigger.

Episode 1, but I wasn't hooked until the end of episode 7. Yang is good on his own, but Yang suffering because of his morals and ethics is Top Tier.

Did you just assumed xir gender, bigot?

False, therefore you must be projecting and are anti-anime. Why are anti-anime niggers such retards?

watch the movie, if you like it watch the show

id say the quality is pretty consistent throughout, except maybe the terran cult arc but thats like 100 episodes in

Is it true that Attack on Titan's big plot twist is that the titans aren't some kind of new Humanoid species but are actually exiled jews who have a gene that lets them transform into titans? I lost interest in this series a while ago because >>>>>Anime but the world concept and the titan's lore seems interesting and I'd hate to have it be reduced to this.

I have not projected anywhere and you are projecting by claiming I'm anti-anime.

terran cult is based and poisonpilled

No, you are projecting therefore anti-anime. Because I am not anti-anime, you are therefore anti-anime. You cannot refute this.

amerifats can't even handle 26 episodes

there's never any twists or cool plots

i'm not going to read this thread, but i guarantee that any western shows anyone posted as a counterargument are nowhere near as good as LoGH.

You are projecting. You are anti-anime. I am not.

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Good shout my man, will give it a go

naruto shippuden (minus filler) is better than any western tv show

suck my dick braindead mod