Why are rapists not being sentenced as harshly anymore? First that Brock Turner guy only got six months for rape and now these guys commit literal gang rape on a 13 year old and only got probation.
What's going on? This is an extremely disturbing trend.
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Because birth rates are way down. Gotta compete with China somehow.
It's not like there's no upside; you get to rape women and even girls now apparently.
There's no upside if you're a good person.
>Gotta compete with China somehow.
No, we do not. Our 1% handed our economy to China and now they think they can pull some crazy shit with illegals and criminals, to continue to compete and get richer. We need to become a second rate economy, get rid of the leeches and megalomaniacs and go back to being a safe, happy, innovative and white country.
rape used be a big deal but now nobody gives a shit so kachow
Has nothing to do with birth rates, has to do with who is in power. The police are still overall quite conservative, but the courts have been taken over disproportionately of late by liberal women, and quite often liberal black women. And for many their motivation is to "fight the system" and keep brothers out of jail, and so tend to give the absolute minimum sentences to "socially disadvantaged individuals" to, in their mind, level the playing field with the white devil.
They don't give a shit if it's a brown/illegal person.
I don't agree with it, but I don't agree with jail time either. It would be much more cost effective to crush their testicles with a hammer and set them free.
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Yeah. Brock Turner is still brought up regularly all over social media but barely anyone even knows or gives a shit about the two gang rapists in the OP who got an even lighter sentence than Brock.
how old are the two guys and was the victim black
20 and 19. Victim's race is unknown.
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Weird how this story isn't on any liberal news media
Brock Turner fingered a drunk girl whom he had been consensually making out with all night, was kicked off the swim team, kicked out of school, went to jail for six months and is a national villain.
FTFY
99% of the right ignored it too. It's the perfect counter-example to the "Only privileged white guys get away with rape! Minorities always get harsh sentences!" narrative so it was a real mistake for it to have received barely any attention when it happened.
It just completely went under the radar. Next time they bring up Brock as "proof" of white privilege just point to this case.
I bet these guys aren't even good swimmers
Since when do liberal women want light sentences for rape and sexual assault? It's usually white male judges that give these stupid slaps on the wrist to rapists.
>Making shit up to defend a rapist
He wasn't making out with her. He attempted to kiss her multiple times at the party and failed each time. He then found her passed out outside, pulled her panties down and started fingering her while she was asleep. 2 Swedish exchanged students found him doing it, he tried to run away but they caught him and held him down. He started to laugh and smile about this.
And let's pretend for a second that she had been making out with him at the party, that doesn't mean he has carte blanche to assault her while she's blacked out.
I think he's suggesting that the fingering was consensual and therefore not assault at all. Regardless this isn't a Brock Turner debate thread, he was just brought up as a relevant example.
She was unconscious to the point the Swedes that found them had to make sure she wasn't dead. Her BAC was estimated to have been .22 at the time of the assault. Turner had even gotten pine needles into her vagina.
Turner is a rapist who was caught red-handed and got a 6-month jail sentence.
What was his BAC?
In alabama, a sex offender needs to be chemically castrated to gain parole, as of this week
Ok, fine. The accounts of what happened at the party are disputed.
Still, fingering a girl isn’t rape. If you look at what he was convicted of, it was penetration with a foreign object (his finger) and assault (which makes no sense if she was unconscious). The actual rape charges were withdrawn. (Wikipedia).
Mind your own business. If the family disagrees with the sentence, they can seek their own justice.
Oh fuck off cunt. Stop trying to defend literal convicted gang rapists.
People have a right to know who they are and what they did especially considering they got a slap on the wrist for it and can potentially commit more gang rape.
lol you're an idiot.
If there were a good argument that the sex was consensual, that would explain the probation only sentences.
>people have a right to know
We already know, dumbass.
pretty soon this will happen to school shooters
this shit happened a year ago and one of the guys already violated his probation
99.999% of people don't. Don't act like you knew about this case before today.
There wasn't. They invited her over to "play videogames" and then ambushed and violently raped her when she went to the toilet.
It was such a violent rape that the girl may end up infertile because of it.
Irrelevant. The fact they got probation in the first place is the injustice, whether or not they fuck it up later doesnt change that.
probably didn't have a good case and took a plea deal. lifetime probation is fucking HELL that fucking literal hell. but 10 years probation would be way too light.
honestly imo should of been 10 years prison + 10-lifetime probation
You are wrong and you only win this one because you got quads.
Defendants who don’t have good cases aren’t offered good plea deals.
>There wasn't. They invited her over to "play videogames" and then ambushed and violently raped her when she went to the toilet.
>It was such a violent rape that the girl may end up infertile because of it.
That sounded like it was the grandparents’ story, the grandparents who weren’t there when it happened.
> they can seek their own justice.
He was suggesting vigilante justice, or some other kind of justice outside the legal system.
The people that sentinced those two men to probation are so fucking retarded.
Holy shit. You guys do realize that this happened in Colorado, where this shit is almost legal? A pubescent girl getting fucked by guys about 7 years older than her? Not quite legal, but this isn't California or some other prude state. None of you where there, so none of you can know the actual circumstances. What probably happened
>dumb nigger slut lies about her age and goes over to nig's house for "vidya"
>nigger convinces her for sex
>him and his cuzzins take turns
>Violent rape? No. The reality is that they were just a little too rough on her
>grandparents and the media spin it out of proportion
I don't think a 13 year old girl just randomly ends up severely injured and claiming gang rape for no reason. I also find it unlikely that the grandparents would invent their own alternative story to the one the 13 year old herself says happened.
Plus the rapists, at least from what i saw, weren't even trying to claim innocence and instead were saying shit like "If I knew she was that young I wouldn't have done it". That doesn't seem like a denial to me.
You are literally defending child rape here. Even if everything you pulled out of your ass there was true it would still be gang rape and child rape.
no I meant the state didn't have a good case
>"If I knew she was that young I wouldn't have done it". That doesn't seem like a denial to me.
That statement is also consistent with admitting to consensual group sex with a girl who appeared to be 18.
>slut tries to get fucked
>child rape
Most negresses can look like a 16 year old at the age of 13. In Colorado, a 20 year old can legally fuck a 16 year old. The perp literally stated that if he had known she was underaged he wouldn't have done it. In this country, someone is innocent until proven guilty beyond reasonable doubt. Maybe the niggers had a really good lawyer, but the point is that I reasonably doubt that 6 guys lured a 13 year old girl into their home than brutally gang raped her. Think about it: if they are rapists, why did they not also sodomize her? Why didn't they murder her and chop her body up into little pieces? Is it because their story and reasoning makes more sense? check and mate.
10 years minimum in prison and sex offender registry isn't harsh? 10 years is a long fucking time, OP. That's pretty much 1/6 of your life gone that you'll never get back, just wasted.
That is the stupidest question on any rape scenario. "Well he is not accountable for his actions after all he was drunk."
i got a dui for blacking out on accident after overdosing on accident and no one fucking cares. i didnt hurt anybody i dont do anything and my life is completely ruined over it and i get punished harsher than everyone. the laws are FUCKED
they have probation dude....not prison. and that girl will have ptsd flashbacks and nightmares for life and all they have to do is check in every month into an office
they're making more and more people do probation tho instead of jail and prison. they're logic is force everyone on probation to work. force everyone to be a productive citizen and use less resources.
in jail and prison you cost 3x as many resource and cant work or contribute to tax dollars anymore. probably depends some prisons have chain gang style slave work and they are more likely to arrest people or for profit prisons
It's not a trend, it's a very rare anomaly. People are still getting life in prison for having pics of possibly teenagers on their HD's with no watermark that could trace back to a 2257.
Not too long ago someone here in Michigan I used to know got 6 and a half to 17 years in prison for his second offense of getting caught masturbating in his car at night.
No shit, google it. "Guy gets 6 and a half to 17 years in prison michigan sexually delinquent person" should bring it up. His only priors were a few drug charges, and the police kept busting him by harassing him as part of a misdemeanor drug investigation/weed bullshit that's legal here now.
wtf. I think there shouldn't just be ONE judge who rules over everything. I think there should be a small committee or group of judges or something that make the decisions together
this laws make NO sense. minor crimes and drug crimes=life in prison. rape muder pedophilia=5 years
what the fuck dude WHAT THE FUCK. I just saw a video on youtube of a guy who got 10 years for murdering his girlfriend
Reparations need to be paid to the victim, of course. I'd go as far as to say they need to pay for the treatment/therapy, but I'm okay with that sentencing, considering the probation system isn't as ass as just checking-in with a random officer every now and then. Making them productive is better than rotting.
Don't assume the victim is 100% broken.
Fuck I couldn't find it. This was the closest I could find. This shit is scary. I used at least 20 different sets of keywords. Fuck only knows how many people go to prison for piss-ass little non-violent victimless crimes when the internet isn't even keeping track of them ffs.
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Brock turner is wealthy hence how he got off and those faggots got off cause of white guilt
But yeah a guy I went to high school with got busted for weed and once meth back in the early 2000's, did a couple stints in jail. Years later he was getting dogged by the cops in a drug investigation, they caught or at least saw they caught him jerking off in his car when they approached it one night, that got him hit with aggravated indecent exposure. What was just a few months later I think, they busted him with the same shit. Judge threw the hammer down, ruled him a sexually delinquent person and gave him 6 and a half to 17 years.
>It's the perfect counter-example to the "Only privileged white guys get away with rape! Minorities always get harsh sentences!" narrative
Are you intentionally trying to be stupid? This is as you point out, an example. An = one. The "narrative" as you call it is based on a preponderance of statistical data easily obtainable from the public record.
On the other hand, racists are already inbred white trash, so I don't expect you to maths.
At least the judge in that case got his asshole reamed out for it.
Holy shit that shit is terrifying. Texas and Florida don't look so bad afterall.
Let me guess... he parked in a school zone?
>In the second trial, Gratiot County Chief Assistant Prosecutor Jennifer Shephard explained that the state would have to prove that Miller met one of three requirements; that he displayed repetitive and compulsive sexual behavior with disregard for the consequences or the rights of others,
Louis C.K., go to Michigan, get life in prison. kthnxbye
Seems about right.
Some 13 year olds are complete sluts, "gang rape" is all hyperbole. its just a fuck.
No joke, I am a defense attorney in Colorado Springs and know many intimate deals about this case.
The 13yo told them she was 18, she did NOT look 13. She was giving out blowjobs in exchange for Wendy's 4 for 4$ meals and had run away from home in a different state. Also, there was recorded evidence of her enjoying the sex, it wasn't "gang rape."
Niggers are sub human monkeys. It's not worth justifying or trying to figure it out. They are animals that every race despises.
yes rape destroys your life. are you a rapist? im not a girl or rape victim but no that deserves a harsh as fuck punishment
and I dont think paying for therapy even comes close to enough reperations. seeing as how they're the fucking reason she has to go
should be 5-10 years in prison plus the probation sentence it makes no sense why its this light
>She was giving out blowjobs in exchange for Wendy's 4 for 4$ meals
Holy fuck how do I get in on that
I have no sympathy for this man anymore. Who the fuck does he think he is, being a complete fucking autist and thinking he has the right to bother women!?!??!
Cont: One of them has already violated his probation and is likely going to prison
>yes rape destroys your life. are you a rapist? im not a girl or rape victim but no that deserves a harsh as fuck punishment
>im not a girl or rape victim>
>but I somehow know this shit for realz yo
Wait, I thought only whites could be pedos.
Kinda mind blown this is on Yea Forums. The facts in the news are nothing like what actually happened and this is how fake shit gets spread.
Fuck off! There is no 13 year old in the history of the world that is mentally developed enough to be a "slut" that "wanted it"! If anything, her behavior was a result of extreme mental illness, making these degenerates even worse.
Yeah, because the average 19 year old is in a position to understand mental illnesses
They've always been judged harshly and in an extreme majority of cases they don't get off too easy.
We live in a time of social media cherry picking. There are fuck tonnes of rape cases and some will always turn out in some bullshit way. It's inevitable.
Then they get blasted in our faces all day and night like it's the norm. There is no trend here except reporting.
A 19 year old is in a better position than anyone to know a 13 year old when he see's one! What the fuck kind of degenerate looks at a 13 year old and thinks "oh, this crazy actin' bitch really wants my dock!"!!??
All those hormones in plastics are making young kids get huge boobs nowadays.
MAGA
Wouldn't she be the dock and he would be the ship?
Underrated post
Dude I'm against statutory rape and child sexual abuse and shit but... Women start to develop sexually at age 8.. it's all working fine. They do indeed get horny and desire men.
Like I'm on your side here but you aren't going anywhere not realising how human biology works
Definitely ran a defense to child sex assault that the child came onto the dad...
Should have their dicks cut off for rape. Wonder if that would stop them tho
>Why are non-whites not being sentanced as harshly anymore?
ftfy
because oppression or some shit
They pleaded to a probation-eligible crime and as a part of their plea agreement were sentenced to probation for 10 years to the rest of their life, if they are never found to be "rehabilitated."
If they ever violate probation, they can be re-sentenced 2-12 years to life mandatory in the Department of Corrections. That's a pretty damn serious consequence.
Are you still ITT? Can you provide any evidence that you are telling the truth, or at least that you are an attorney? I have a friend I'm talking to about this who's interested in this case but she's adamant that you're just lying.
Idk, what do you want from me as proof?
Like fucking anything. If you're an attorney you have a certificate. Take a picture with a timestamp (censor whatever name license number etc obviously).
Or timestamped pictures of any pertinent court documents you have (also appropriately censored).
Like fucking anything dude.
I'm here too witness the truth .
How old were the two dudes and what specifically did they do? Surely there are details that make some sense of that?
I dont have a pen, but I am working on a pic
Good?
she lost her virginity to 2 dudes raping her you god damn retard
>dui for blacking out on accident after overdosing on accident and no one fucking cares
Fuck off, if it's a medication that even has any risk of causing a blackout then there are warnings about nor operating heavy machinery. It doesn't mattter if it was an "overdose" if it's so easy to overdose.
Could you do the same but with a handwritten timestamp in the picture? No one doesn't have a pen. Or pencil. Or marker. Or lump of coal. Or finger with a cut in it. Work with me here.
>got his asshole reamed out for it
People were angry and whined at him, he suffered zero real consequences.
I don't have a pen bud. How many fingers do you want me to put in the damn picture.
Was she not white?
sounds about nigger
Finally equality!
3.5
You heard me, 3 with the 4th half extended.
Please and thank you.
It's part their culture. don't be racist.
Lmaooooooooooooo
What did te one guy do to violate probation?
Not sure - he wasn't my client, but I know he had a warrant
HE DELIEVERED.
THIS MAN IS AN ATTORNEY LADIES AND GENTS
>We need to become a second rate economy, get rid of the leeches and megalomaniacs and go back to being a safe, happy, innovative and white country
BUT WE WOULDN'T BE SECOND RATE IF WE DIDN'T HAVE THE BROWN SKINNED LOADS ON OUR ECONOMY! YOU KNOW IT THEY KNOW IT. CHINA HAS NO NIGGERS OR SPICS OR RICANS OR COMMUNISTS FROM THE HILLS OF CENTRAL AMERIKA. HOMOGENEOUS WHITE WOULD STAY ON TOP OTHERWISE
Awesome dude thank you
Bullshit, police are libs wanting liberals to keep handing them money. think rural johnny on the spot will not blow bubba away if it means his paycheck stops? police will kill at will for the state.
Anything to please anons.
Nah, he was raping her.
red handed? Was she on her period?
>
You're all going to hell! There's a world of difference between sexual behavior in children (monkey see, monkey do) and actual SEXUALITY! It's bullshit like this that's letting liberals declare their 8 year olds gay/trans/whatever and put them on fucking hormones!!!!
Males BEGIN developing BIOLOGICALLY at age 14, about one year earlier for women.They don't FINISH until they are 22.
PSYCHOLOGICALLY, 19-21 for normal people who had a normal social development, 24+ for reeree's like I'm imagining most of you are! Fucking autists!
I mean like, fingering without consent is still rape. You don't get bonus points on sentencing if you use your penis.
Did she testify? Is "she said she was 18" an adequate defense?
>On Yea Forums
>Telling other people that they are going to hell.
Ok bud.
No, at best it's sexual assault
What the fuck do you think rape is? There isn't a specific statute called "Rape." The statute is called, "Sexual Assault."
That is so fucking sad. And yet here we are, arguing over how the $2 a day "myth" was bullshit (as a society)
reminder: if you fuck a 13 year old, record it, "if" she "enjoys it", it's neither creating CP nor rape
of course a 13 year old is going to "enjoy" sex physically, age of consent laws are in place for psychological reasons
Depends on the state/country you drooling retard.
She said she was 18 is not an adequate defense. Most underage sex crimes are strict liability crimes. If you did it, it doesn't matter why or what you thought was going on. Obviously that's really simplified, but this is Yea Forums sooo
>at best it's sexual assault
Depends on the state/country you drooling retard.
See? I can call you names too for no fucking reason.
omfg are you for real?!?! she's going to enjoy someone brutalizing her, and a part of her that is very fragile at that age?!?!
I have a question for the attorney...
How the fuck do you get the Razer synapse software to work? Their hardware is nice but that driver is a steaming pile of dogshit.
Cringe
Bottom line is that the judge didn't give a shit because the victim was black. Black on black crime = no big deal to racist judges in this country!
striking vipers
I don't man, that stuff is garbage. I just enjoy the nice mechanical keyboard noises my KB makes and it looks good.
>very fragile at that age
Found the 30 year old virgin who got 0 action besides the occasional sucking off his friends in high school
Well turning got a light sentence because he fingered a girl after hooking up all night (but after she'd passed out). I don't know much about this case but if it's statutory rape (where they were just having normal sex but she was underage) or something the sentence would make sense
You loosen the definition of rape and all rape gets punished less harshly.
That's what happens when you determine looking at someone is a form of rape, we punish it less severely because someone has made a mockery of the word.
The less seriously you take something, the less seriously it will be punished.
>suprised that a minority doesnt get jail time for gang rape
welcome to the privilege you libtards ignore
The US is becoming more like Europe where everyone gets 8 years for anything under mass genocide, thank the left for stopping the death penalty.
No he isnt. He's right.
>mlive.com
According to the article he had multiple convictions for wagging his weenie at women. With good time he could be out in 3 years and back to public pud pulling.
>national villain
the only people who still care are libtards and non whites who think white privilege is a real thing
>Our 1% handed our economy to China
Israel*
Attorney:
For someone with no criminal history and a standing in the community, Brock Turner's sentence was not insane. He is a sex offender for the rest of his life and that alone is an insane punishment.
How good are you at giving blowjobs?
As someone currently on probation, fucking LIFE on probation would seriously fucking blow ass. I’d almost rather do time.
Being raped is an insane punishment that was unwarranted. Being labelled a sex offender for being a sex offender seems pretty reasonable.
>Our 1% handed our economy to China
kek
Our diabetic, Walmart shoppers bought nothing but Chinese shit.
Probably didn't even know what a China was but all the same, they should have looked for a label that said: Made in America
dont worry tho. Trump is fixing that all by himself
Especially probation where they attach shit to your junk to measure blood flow while they show you images of different aged girls and boys to determine your sexual attraction to them.
Check out Penile plethysmographs.
>2% of population is jewish
>44% of jews are in top 1%
>9 out of 10 people in top 1% are jews
Sure kid
I'm not saying he isn't deserving of the label, but my god the actual details of sex offender probation and registration are horrible. Many people would rather kill themselves.
That seems like a reasonable alternative. If you cannot abide by the most basic rules of society you should be removed from that society.
Sources are in the picture, Chaim. The wealthy are overwhelmingly Jewish.
8 year old girls can give birth you dumbfuck.
Yeah one horrible decision means you should be removed from society. Eye for an eye leaves everyone blind.
And half measures leaves only the innocent blind.
You can't just mix Breaking Bad quotes with Bible quotes to sound cool.
That does nothing to rebut my point.
I mean, you really didn't have one. You were arguing from a punishment perspective, which I will give you is important in some cases. We shouldn't just remove people from our society for one horrible choice and put them in a cage. Give them a chance to recover and rehabilitate. If they can't, sure, prison is the last option. If they never show any inclination to be a harm in the future, why would you want them in prison other than just blind retribution?
>We shouldn't just remove people from our society for one horrible choice and put them in a cage. Give them a chance to recover and rehabilitate. If they can't, sure, prison is the last option. If they never show any inclination to be a harm in the future, why would you want them in prison other than just blind retribution?
you want them in prison forever. Look at Angie Housman. 4th grader dead from a repeat offender. raped eyes duct taped tied to a tree and left to die of exposure. a 4th grade little girl. all sex offenders need to be surgically castrated and left in jail to rot.
I'm saying we just kill them and move on, no need to punish the taxpayer for the actions of another. Removal from society can mean many different things. Sending them somewhere else could work as well, but some people, one horrible decision or not, cost an innocent individual too much to give a second chance, because that second chance comes with the caveat that they get to do that to another innocent before we say that's enough.
I'm not one to wager the well-being of an innocent against the well-being of a criminal.
>All sex offenders need XYZ
>relies solely on anecdotal evidence
Dude. Some people in our world are GARBAGE PIECES OF SHIT. Not every sex offender is, however.
Blacks are statistically more likely to commit crimes. They need longer sentences.
Did you ever think she was?
Why would you trust the government to kill a citizen, ever? Were you there when the sex assault happened? Did you see it? Did you know the mental state of either of the participants? Do the victims want this??
There are so many caveats here and you are ignoring all of them.
>Still, fingering a girl isn’t rape
Isn't rape defined as "unwated penetration with penis or other object" or something like that?
No but OP seemed to think so
Rape and Murder is Rape and Murder. If we can prove the event occurred the decision shouldn't be time out, it should be death.
they raped a black girl
Who is "we" and what is "proof"? Who decides these things? That is the larger picture I would ask you to think about.
You read about these cases in the news and the absolute worst bits are picked out for a reason. You rarely see the counter point or the actual defense. You personally never get to view the evidence or the trial. You just...trust that the government got it right? What do you base that on?
The number of clients I have had that have had news articles is innumerable - and only a handful of the articles accurately portrayed what the evidence showed. Your reaction to this specific case and potentially cases like this in general is entirely based off of 2nd or 3rd party information.
We convict in this country based off of "beyond a reasonable doubt." Very specifically this does not mean "all doubt." People are convicted every day when jurors may have some doubt as to whether or not they did it, but it met the reasonable doubt standard. And you want to kill someone because a jury may have still had any doubt at all as to whether or not it happened.
K.
Black judge
Yeah the Judge was white. Low quality effort bud.
They die from it, though.
Not if they have an abortion.
Well, then I don't think they're giving birth anymore.
I do. Some will die for the greater good as society adopts a harsher punishment for heinous acts. The more accepting of an act we are the more often it occurs.
As far as I'm concerned if you are convicted of rape or murder your right to life is forfeit, just as that person decided it was for their victim.
Except, dumbfuck, a rapist didn't decide to forfeit the life of their victim. THEY DIDN'T DIE.
Yes. Sexual assault is horrific. So is being robbed with a gun in your face, or being shot and almost dying. But, your right to life was not forfeit. Why should we want to kill someone else for those actions?
There is a certain line that if you cross it you do not deserve to live, or at the very least retaliation of deadly force is perfectly permissible.
If an individual decides to treat another's life as a game piece to get what they want, then turnabout is fair play and I am not a believer in the idea that we wait until a reprobate kills someone to decide now we do something serious. You commit rape, you die. You commit armed robbery, you die. You kill someone else without proper cause, you die. It's really quite simple and doesn't need to fall into you becoming indignant simply because someone disagrees with you.
See second part of
As for their ages, 20 and 19.
Except they also use a single cherrypicked example to push that narrative. They always bring up the Brock Turner case and then compare it to the most severe sentences that blacks have gotten for rape.
See this for an example. This is completely cherrypicked yet was shared by millions as undeniable evidence that white men ALWAYS get away with rape and black people always get the harshest sentence possible.
Why weren't images like this made for the two in the OP? This and similar images went viral all over social media yet there's none about the gang rapists.
bitch is 31 and accepted money for sex, had sex, then killed the guy, took the money back and claimed she was raped
was charged with murder and robbery
I hope she never gets out
Yeah, I know. I imagine most people here are smart enough to realize the comparison isn't quite being fully truthful.
But it still went viral all over normiebook and twitter. They wanted a white male rapist boogieman to point to in order to distract from the actual stats and also push the white privilege shit and they got one that fills both those roles. I'm not surprised they've refused to let it go after years.
Don't let them convince you they actually care about the victims though. This is just a political move for them and that's exactly why they just ignore cases like the OP one that don't fit the narrative they've worked hard to push using the Brock case.