Because "trans" people are a social construct

i am curious though, do you think that this kind of this is caused by being uber depressed?

Suicide

I have a theory that there are some transgender/agp people who have been brainwashed by cute cartoon girls.

The kind of cartoon girls that are depicted as being mature well beyond their years, intelligent, and really quite cute. I see them as being positive female role-models, something that girls are supposed to strive to be more like. Meanwhile, male characters in cartoons are often flawed, laughably stupid, and immature, because it's realistic. I have a feeling that some misguided young lads latched onto the cute cartoon girls even though they weren't meant to be role-models for them.

I find that incredibly likely.
As someone who suffers from rather significant depression, I'm aware of a certain mentality that comes with it, a kind of feeling where you constantly are seeking some solution, some answer.
Some people throw themselves into work, many choose to engage it various form of escapism.
Having such an option on the table is dangerous, because there will always be those who are willing to try it, because depression is a very real and difficult thing.
However I will maintain that it is an artificial solution which in reality does not address very much.

well, if it changes anything, before i started having these feelings around the middle of grade school/ early middle school i was blissfully ignorant and at least somewhat happy with my life, only after coming out and dealing with everything thats come after thats when my mental state started degrading.

u r the ignorant here

Attached: f0a4d125717ef24de54e9c620d98e2b9.jpg (800x670, 48K)

I think the problem mostly comes from people in general being unable to accept those who are "quirky" in the first place
"Coming out" only publicly cements the fact that you are different, which in turn causes most who consider themselves "normal" to see you as flawed, unjustly so but nevertheless
I think people feel out of place because the world is screwed up, but they are led to believe that it is they themselves who are screwed up
I don't think you have any idea what my level of experience is on this matter.

Army or electricity

don't you realize that when you shout

"No, to transgender people!"
"Transgender(ism) is a radical ideology!"
(when it's not an ideology)

all you do is encourage people like
to go out and murder people, because they see nothing wrong with murder?

im not sure what you mean,am i not screwed up then in feeling like my assigned gender doesn't match how i feel about myself? or that the world is screwed up because it made me feel this way? because ive never had any real support structure for it and im not about to, i feel like if i am really trans i need to handle it on my own.

its 0. Stop kidding yourself, fag

Your obsession with this is a pretty clear sign of mental illness.

Get help.

yeah, there are plenty of problem idiots on this side, I am aware
and in they end they promote transgenderism more than anyone, because they motivate their opponents to make bigger moves
hopefully they get their karma from the earth soon
I think it's wrong to even consider that the problem is yourself, in that capacity
If you don't relate to the modern man, that is 100% cool, because look at themIf you identify more with women, you should be free to be feminine without the need to modify yourself in such a way
I believe the people promoting these surgeries should be stopped.
That's all there is to it.
I'm actually seeking help right now, trying to express my beliefs in a reasonable way in hopes that like minded individuals will be able to read my words and find truth in them, and spread this message.
What are you doing with your life?

English isn't my first language so bear with me here.

The reason suicide rates are so high for trans people is not because of "homophobia" and "transphobia" or people not being open to the idea and not supporting it, its because it is a mental illness, think about all the crazy mental illnesses there are and this is just one of them, im not trying to be edgy or talk shit, im not juding you either. i believe you that its fucking shit to wake up every morning and feel like you're born in the wrong body, but if you're born as a man you will always be a man and if you're born a female you will always be a female thats just how it is, there is no amout of meds you can take or operations you can have done on your body to ever get the feeling of actually "getting there" and being done, if you make say becoming a girl as a man your life long mission you will never fully succeed and that is one of the big reasons so many trans people commit suicide because its a life long struggle.

If YOU, the person who is reading this right now struggle with this, listen to me here and actually think about this as a valid option before runing your life forever. Instead of fucking up your body with meds and surgery just go get therapy, serious, long term therapy and (eventho it might be hard) just try to live with the cards you were dealt, if you were born a man just be a man and try to be happy, and the same for females, i really truly believe that you're a 100x better off that way if you actually try.

i have personally talked with people that started their transitions and told me it was the worst mistake of their life, because once you start with heavy meds and surgery your body will never be "normal" again and i even talked to someone who started transitioning and "changed their mind" ( im sure thats an extremly oversimplified way to say what happend there but thats basically what it boils down to) trust me you don't want to be in a situation like that

Someone is in denial...

Guess you didn't see the research published last week proving 100% that trans brains match the perceived gender.

Dipshit.

AMEN

Allow me to explain something you should already be aware of
There is no actual difference between the brains of men and women
One side focuses logical thought, the other emotional
Every human being is fully capable of using both sides
The only difference is that men and women each have a "tendency" to lean to their respective side
To say that someone's preferred method of thought at any given moment is what determines their "gender" is rather far-fetched, don't you think?

Womp womp.

Attached: 1551872860162.jpg (1242x1916, 263K)

What the fuck is a therapist?

Its the most stupid idea in the world, imagine being in high school and PAYING someone in your class too give you advice. WTF.

shameless

Attached: bump_fan_web_image_1200x630.jpg (1000x595, 95K)

therapy didn't help, all it came to was the therapist concluding i had no issues in my life besides the fact that i was seemingly depressed from not feeling ok with my body. she didn't recommend anything, she only gave me two options of

try transitioning

live the rest of my life like this

and frankly, at this point im willing to try anything to just feel ok with myself

its not about "feeling feminine" though ive tried the whole, being a guy but i do feminine things. it didnt help and if anything, it just made me feel the same way i did before.

its horrible that they would suggest it as a solution, completely ridiculous what has become of society
there is no reason you shouldn't feel comfortable in your own skin, and if you arent satisfied with yourself you should improve through learning and hard work, studying and exercise.
"genital construction surgery" solves nothing at all, and any problems from before will resurface

what? in my class? do you not know what a therapist is?

it's great that you appreciate feminine things
it's beautiful that you admire women so
but whoever told you that becoming one was an option, was completely misguided, and you have been lied to

im not sure what the solution is then. if i feel unhappy with myself, and have tried to be myself while not changing my gender, and it didnt help. then what else can i do? kill myself? live my life how everyone else says i should? honestly i feel like the few choices i have regarding this are worse and worst, so i chose worse.

whoops i meant to reply to not myself

depression is something that may follow you for the rest of your life
I dont think suicide is a real answer, but neither is "transitioning"
if it's something you've already done, then you may have to live with the results...
however, you should still be able to seek happiness outside of sexual things

We're on the same wavelength, OP.

Attached: lgbt hotline.jpg (1024x544, 99K)

its not sexual, i dont derive pleasure in it. and how is "depression will follow you for the rest of your life" better than trying to improve it?

Well I mean, that's just something I feel.
Sometimes the cause of our depression is something that cannot be changed, life events that have already transpired, things we must simply live with.
Of course one should try to improve it, and that step in itself is something to be proud of, but sometimes, the medicine is worse than the disease, so to speak.

how is transitioning worse than just coping for the rest of my life?

because its a farce
the people who created those surgeries never intended for them to be used in this way
it takes quite a bit of digging to get to that info but I assure you its out there
I hate to say this to you, but now you simply have to deal with all the problems associated with transitioning, in addition to what you were feeling before
its a medical disgrace, what they're doing to people

Better idea: Mass genocide on all these retards who think that they can decide what gender they are. If you've got a dick, you're a dude. If you've got a vag, you're a chick. If you think anything otherwise you should not be allowed to be part of society and you should seek professional help

what about just hormonal transition? many people in the trans community oppose surgeries because of how iffy they are. but you can always just go on hormones which are much safer and not experimental. thats what im doing for now because the surgeries worry me too

you're just as ignorant as the people you claim to fight against
what you suggest is literally blaming the victim
there are powerful organizations out there right now who will create another thousand "believers" for every 10 you and your genocidal cronies get your hands on
you, like them, will never actually solve anything

All this transgender shit only started in the last couple of decades, the human race did just fine up until then. These people are only creating new problems for us, such as stupid threads like this. And you say they're victims? Oh please, these poor mentally challenged people, what ever will come of them? How the fuck can someone really go against what is biologically correct and try and change the whole fucking world over it? That makes no sense to me

tbh I don't really disagree with people taking hormones
although in the end I might categorize that as similar to taking drugs and alcohol,
it should be fine as long as one doesn't become overly dependent
its a much more fair and easy to understand "treatment" that would help people to embrace themselves without overly harmful and drastic measures

I dont think people can get dependent on hormones. The ones I'm on now I can stop taking any time I want and I would be just fine. And what's your opinion on people who change their markers/names?

Attached: 8235886924.jpg (2184x1394, 156K)

because they aren't the problem
they are being taken advantage of
cant you see how this is all being constructed?
literally their whole industry would be null and void if they hadn't conveniently changed the definition of the word "gender"
it's being done for money, they're selling these surgeries, they're profiting off people who feel out of place in a world of chaos
fighting the people won't ever change anything, this is a problem that can only be stopped at the source

Well thats too bad that you don't want it.
Fortunately the free market doesn't have to bend to your feelings.
Agreements between 2 consenting adults is no business of ours

Attached: 1557604138754.png (1024x1024, 1.31M)

and what do you suggest since you think that the people aren't the problem here?

Hmm, people can get addicted to anything, if they so much as believe its making them feel better
I don't think people should really be able to lie about their gender, it's completely misleading
if someone wants to cross dress or something, that's fine, but if I meet you and you don't tell me the truth before we get intimate, I would feel lied to, and be upset
People should be allowed to do as they please, but they should also be honest with themselves and those around them

I think people should be honest about if they're trans or not, they can do that without being forced into using a specific marker

Aim your weapon in the right direction
Kill the plant by attacking the roots, not by cutting off leaves
Take my words I have used here today
Expose the truth about the "transgender industry"
Fortunately, I don't have to bend to the free market
Their business will be exposed as a shenanigan

youtube.com/watch?v=QgSAOxwr0xE

Please become an hero for the sake of humanity.

You fool!

Wow that is absolutely horrible, these people call themselves professionals?

The real advice is stop failing so hard at being a man.

But I never failed at being a man, people call me handsome, say I'm charming and punctual, a hard worker. My life would be just fine if I didn't have this going on

They are another stupid human being and a complete stranger.

Any moron can get a 3 year pyscology degree, it means abosultely nothing.

Any adult asking for advice from another adult and paying for it, is the equivant of being in the 9th grade, sitting down with other 9th grader and paying them for general advice about life.

So, what's your idea for getting help? Crack?

it's a disgrace on the part of the therapist yeah, an incredibly lazy answer for someone who's job it is to help figure things out
but he's an idiot for suggesting that failing at being a man is the problem
people like you are suffering from depression, I now believe that is what leads you to take these measures
if "being a man" meant being the same as some of the idiot men in my life, I wouldn't feel comfortable either

Help for what? life is easy as fuck.

Humanity survived well from 300,000BC till 1950AD with no fucking therapists.

We survived 2 world wars, with no fucking therapists.

STOP BEING A PUSSY.

therapy isn't a crime
these days it's hard to create real social bonds
most things are superficial, people create meaningless bonds and think they are paragons of love and communication
having someone to talk to and have real conversations is very fair
if your life is "easy as fuck" then your opinion on the world is probably off and you need to get out more

Are you the same one I've been talking to?
I think I might not mind being friends

Stop being a baby.

You are 1 of 8 billion people on the planet, your life, your life choices, your opinions, your feels, your emotions mean absolutely nothing.

No one needs anyone or anything, you are a mammal, human society is complicated as it was 200,000 years ago, we just have more shit now.

Life is about fucking, eating, drinking sleeping whatever.

If you want to cut off your wing wang and get boobs no one gives a fuck mate.

No human has ever done anything worth remembering, no one will remember you or any stupid human shit you do, think or say.

Attached: honeylove.jpg (1023x678, 175K)

You sound like you need some serious help
Did you come here just to try and make me sad?
How sadistic~
But yeah, your overwhelming pessimism isn't doing anyone any good and you should keep it to yourself

lulz.

Im the most sane cunt around, and positive. Im just not an emo bitch who whines all the fucking time about stupid irrellevant shit no one gives a fuck about.

>to go out and murder people, because they see nothing wrong with murder?
beginning with yours, kike

>no one gives a fuck about
you'd be surprised just how many people out there give a fuck about this topic, one way or the other
a lot more than whining going on here, you should read from the top

If they do give a fuck about this topic they are faking it, or just bored and theorising.

Humans only give a shit about themselves. What other humans do is completely irrelevant.

Found the anti-humanist

>anti-humanist

anti humanist is just an irrellevant language category, and language is all bullshit.

Attached: 1559290485847.png (1170x1169, 203K)

>one cannot change their gender
glad you see it that way, as trans people are born the way they are. So essentially, you're correct in saying that. Glad you support trans identities OP

Good thing we live in America, where I can do whatever the FUCK i want faggot. Can't wait to dilate my new pussy

>human society has remained the same from 300,000 bc until now
please tell me you're joking

your whole ideology would crumble without your conveniently updated definition of the word "gender"
if you were born with the reproductive capabilities of a man, you will never have those of a woman
it's ok to feel however you want as far as your identity
but ignoring the truth will never serve you
that's fine, as long as you don't believe your artificially constructed genitals make you a "real woman"
because that would be a lie, and whoever led you to believe that has lied to you

muh free market zzzzzzzzzz stfu turbo autist libertarian, how is working at mcdonalds going for you