When will you accept that fascism is the ideology of progress...

When will you accept that fascism is the ideology of progress? It is the only ideology that acknowledges the economic needs of its people while also not destroying their culture and replacing them for the sake of """diversity""". Why aren't you a fascist?
>inb4 you can't actually justify why you're not a fascist so neolibs and leftists start circlejerking about how fascism = bad inkel ideology

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>Real fascism has never been tried guys
dumbass

Great argument dude. I'm sure it took a lot of brain power to come up with that.

There is no "ideology of progress" such a thing literally does not exist

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World War 2 was all about stopping fascist faggots like you. The world will rally to the cause once more to stop the forces of fascism.

But there is. It's the belief that tomorrow will inevitably be better than today. Maybe it's more of a religion than an ideology.

Congratulations on being incapable of making an argument against fascism so you just appeal to the victor. Honestly complete brainlets like yourself are absolutely pathetic. Also quite ironic because I assume youre at the very least as far left as a neolib who would probably call most Americans at that time fascist.

Imagine needing the entire planet to stop two small countries.

>It's the belief that tomorrow will inevitably be better than today

There is literally no good reason to believe that, if anything, that mentality just makes progress impossible

Like I said you're a dumbass...

Fascism is obsessed with destroying the "corrupting elements" of their society, and they keep trying to solve their issues by going after new ones as soon as they are rid of the previous one, which leads to repression and genocide. That's because they lack a solid economic model, and base their whole ideology in magial thinking.

Completely untrue actually. Nothing about fascist ideology requires murder.
Communist ideology, however, does require murder.

great argument dude maybe try having above an 80 iq next time. You can't argue against it so you just use shit memes as I predicted

100% incorrect. Nice try though. Fascism simply respect's people's cultural values and serves the working class citizens of their own country. The economic model is the most solid. It involves class collaboration. Whatever is in the best interest of the nation and the people is done. There is no genocide required, the 'repression' which is really a stretch to call it that is done to protect the people's culture. It is to respect the working people rather than replace them which is that leftists and neoliberals want to do.

If that were the case, why does fascism always start with book burning and suppression of ideas that the government doesn't approve of?

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Laughably incorrect. As I stated above: The fascist description of what is wrong in society, is that it's being corrupted by an outside force - something that doesn't belong - which must be destroyed. First it's the jews, then the arabs, then the socialists, then the homosexuals, then the people who are not wholeheartedly fascist party members, then the party members who aren't cheering vigorously enough for the fürer... See where this is going? The only way the fascism can try to solve it's problem is through genocide.

>Communist ideology, however, does require murder.
Any massive change in capital ownership is going to involve a lot of broken eggs. Stop pretending to care about lives.

He didn't say which people's cultural values, or which part of the people. :^)

Stupid question.
1. book burnings of works that are detrimental to the people generally aren't bad, those that advocate for that which goes against the people's culture or for the replacement of the people is not bad. That's like me asking why communists have always purged those who refused to fall in line and banished ideas they don't like or why capitalist corporations ban wrong think en masse. In fact, democratic societies ban ideas governments don't approve of. Just look at modern Germany.

Why does communism always start with mass murder? In fact, why does democracy always start with war and murder? See? Like the questions you asked, these are stupid questions and not critiques of the actual ideology

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"Stay in your place, working class fool. Accept your masters for the 'good of the Nation'."

What a load of bull. Any worker who willfully accept this ain't nothing but a cuck on a major scale. There's no fucking "class collaboration". Fascism is an ideology for people who are too stupid to understand they're being crushed under the boot of the ruling class.

I have black, latino, and arab family members.

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Heh exactly. Fascist rethoric only works in these vague, sweeping terms.

i like how everyone likes to claim progress, as if humans need to have elitists be the self-prescribed gatekeepers of what comes naturally.

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Yeah keep reaching retard. Id rather be "under the boot" of people who value me and my culture than spics and niggers who hate me and my culture. That is leftist ideology: kill the American's culture, ignore all their values, replace them and force them to like it.

In some cases there has been a violent revolt, as with almost all revolutions. In Russia, there was a conflict between communists and the Tzar's forces. Naturally people were killed. Same goes for most revolutions (compare with military regimes in South America, revolutions in Africa etc).
But there are peaceful transitions of power aswell. Allende in Chile is an example. The fascist counter-revolution though... Holy fuck did they kill and torture like there was no tomorrow!

No it always works, you just claim that im being vague or sweeping when its just obvious that i need to make these generalizations for the sake of posting here. Theres tons of literature to read about it.

Ok. Keep telling yourself that. I'm sorry for you. Maybe one day you're mature enough to put this into a bigger perspective.

Again youre not critiquing the ideology. Youre downplaying what democracies did and what communists did, and are now insisting that violence is part of fascist ideology when its clearly not.

>detrimental to the people
Who decides? And who decides who decides?
>always purged
Capitalists would have done the same thing, and have.
>democratic
Have you considered how bizarre it is that it's normal to call any aristocratic system "democratic"?
>always start with mass murder
Because the bourgeoisie earned it by trying to fight.

Well, liberal rhetoric is the same way. Listen, and you may hear a new habit for the ruling class and their video courtiers to talk about "our" (apparently meaning their) democracy. So the USA is democratic for several hundred people at most. The rest of us just beg our betters for scraps.

Hah what, like the ramblings of Mein Kampf? (Yes, I've actually read it. It's laughable.)

>bigger perspective
What bigger perspective could there possibly be than this replacement migration of immigrants who hate the American, who hate their culture, their values, their success, everything and do nothing but demand concessions from the American. What exactly is bigger than the replacement of the American with the hateful and ungrateful immigrant?

The common european american decides. Fascism is an ideology of the people.

Wow communists and capitalists are violent Im shocked.

>le edgy communist "nothing is democracy"

Yes you can always justify violence by saying people fought back. Congragulations, youre retarded

Yeah the USA is democratic for the elite which is why fascism is needed to both protect the American from the elite and protect the American and their culture from the will of the immigrants

No like all the fascist works? I really like how you resort to "heh yeah i read a book its a dumb poo poo head book fascist owned"

Last post. Gotta get some sleep.

But... I think that stamement is extremely interesting. What is this mythic "culture" you talk about? When was it formed? By whom? And how come immigrants hate it, yet do everything they can to move there and be part of it? Which are the values, exactly, that are shared by the whole nation? Who are included, and who is not? Are the values of a black person, 10 generations in America as respected as those of a 2nd generation white person?
Which success? Your failing state, your "healthcare system", your lousy infrastructure? Or the war machine you spend literally all your money on?
How are the immigrants, working day and night to survive in your dog-eat-dog country, ungrateful?

You live in a dreamworld, and your ideology stops you from questioning the "facts" given to you. Look around, think critically... then realise fascism is built on a web of assumptions and lies.

>Fascism is an ideology of the people*
Fixed. Fascism is an ideology of the fallacy of composition.
>The common european american decides
The rich decide and you have nothing without them.
>stop breaking the fourth wall of my larp reeeeeeeeeeeee
I suppose it's a less retarded (in the real world sense, not the Yea Forums why won't you larp with me sense) justification than feels about precious bodily fluids and bikeshedding with lethal consequences.
>protect the American and their culture from the will of the immigrants
Honestly, once you've exterminated the ruling class, and the USA gets its jewish dick out of the rest of world's business, most of them will go back where they came from, where they have real, deep roots.

>fascism is the ideology of progress
Ironically, your faggotry is not too different from progressivism

You said this perfectly, I couldn't of said it better myself.

First of all, you seem to be conflating capitalism with fascism. Fascism promotes healthcare for all, free college for CITIZENS, and does whatever it can to provide the highest possibly quality of life for the working citizen.

Obviously when I say American values I meant European American values. Think 1960's American dream except we actually pay for American's schooling and healthcare, we make sure every American is paid a fair wage, the government works for the people, not the immigrants, not the fat cats.

The immigrants come here for pretty much only economic benefit or to escape from their shit country. We see that they come here, often illegally, refuse to leave, demand free shit, demand citizenship, demand everything of the working man and offer nothing in return. They want the working man to finance their healthcare, their kids college, they want to impose hate speech laws so that the working man cannot criticize them (studies show that most hispanic and black 'Americans' support hate speech laws) they lobby politicians and corporations to censor the American and instead work for the immigrant. These people do not respect American values, they see America as a place they are entitled to use as an escape from their shithole and think the American deserves no say in the matter. They think America is built to serve them.

>Fixed. Fascism is an ideology of the fallacy of composition.
lol
>The rich decide and you have nothing without them.
Yeah ironic that every major corporation supports leftist talking points and actively work against fascists. but please.
>I suppose it's a less retarded (in the real world sense, not the Yea Forums why won't you larp with me sense) justification than feels about precious bodily fluids and bikeshedding with lethal consequences.
nonsensical rambling to try and justify how fascism is violent but communism isn't. lmao you're retarded dude.
> most of them will go back where they came from, where they have real, deep roots.
no most of them need to go back from where they came from now. America's job is to serve Americans. I don't care what the USA did to their countries, it doesn't justify the USA putting the immigrant over the American.

>The jews come here for pretty much only economic benefit or to escape from their shit country. We see that they come here, often illegally, refuse to leave, demand free shit, demand dual citizenship, demand everything of the working man and offer nothing in return. They want the working man to finance Israel's healthcare, their kids college, they want to impose hate speech laws so that the working man cannot criticize them (studies show that most jews support hate speech laws) they lobby politicians and corporations to censor the American and instead work for the immigrant. These people do not respect American values, they see America as a place they are entitled to use as an escape from their shithole and think the American deserves no say in the matter. They think America is built to serve them.
It's unproductive to attack the pawns instead of the players. So I fixed this for you.

I think there's a reasonable case to be made that civic fascism would work as a governing ideology in America today.

You place the emphasis on unifying culture. This leads to more happiness and productivity.

I'm not a fascist because the right to violate the rights to the people belong to the people. Representative republic is the only way to go.

Collectively promoting the idea that the government or a particular individual is infallible is just retarded.

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