Their body, their choice

Their body, their choice.

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That is true and the law in almost all civilized counries on earth.

They have to fight for their right to party. No woman should have that curbed by some stupid fucking brat needing constant attention.

Correct

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sage

This is obvious to everyone who isn't retarded or suffers some form of mental illness which is described under the term conservatism

Yep. People have no right to exist. I bet all our mothers would’ve had us ripped out if they had the option.

No one has the right to end a life it's there choice

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Exactly. Smashing a fetus to death is the litmus test of liberal enlightenment.

hmm you said something?

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Not MY mom. Maybe YOUR mom.

Fine; enjoy being old, infertile, and alone.

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nah if u git preagnet, u fucked up

undisputable proof

I bet if your mother could turn back time she'd definitely have you aborted. It's her choice and none of your business.

Just switch the sex and it would be a classic feminist add.

don't want kids?
then close your legs harlot

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Why should you care what a woman chooses to do?

I don't but if they make shit like this then they are not happy with their decision and as men we have to listen to them piss and moan about it

I still think abortion should be legal in all cases.

Because each baby has TWO parents. The Dad has to pay Child support, but the Women is NEVER forced to pay Child support.

The Father should have a say in whether or not he want HIS baby to be murdered.

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So the kid has no rights, even at 6 months???

I'm for killing babies, but i'm against women having rights. It's a difficult situation.

Waiting 6 months is probably a bad idea, but I think that option should be out there.

The only other person who should get a say would be her doctor.

It's called pushing back...its long over due. If we have no say so if our child lives or dies then bitches need to go get Turkey basted and leave us the fuck out of it all together

Us men have the right to sex for a fee our body our right if women can kill a baby for a fee paid them a man has the right to a act of pleasure after all no one dies

Then child support should be a man's choice

“The mother Never has to pay child support”, you’re a retarded cunt eh? Like 15% of child support comes from unfit mothers. It’s just always dudes who dump n jump.

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This, one million times this.
It's not my body my right, it should be my baby, my right.
Which means the two people who made the proto human should get a say in it's future. If my wife ever tried to abort my child I'd abort her

need forced abortion to keep the quality of population

Wow, i've never seen such blatant lies, try to kill yourself you baiting cunt

You don’t have to birth the fucking thing. As soon as science lets you grow that piece of shit in your ballbag you get a say. Until then, suck start a revolver you pedophile half tard

Wrong. It's not a human, not a child. Till that point abortion is legal.
Equating it to a fully conscious and independent life is idiotism. You are an unhinged potential murderer and should be euthanized for the good of society.

I don’t think you understand this subject at all. It’s closer to %30. Now Fuck killing yourself, how about I come abort you myself?

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Forgot this

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HELL YEA BROTHER
Tell em

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Capital punishment was once common place in "almost all civilized countries on Earth". Not a very good metric for determining the right course of action.

It doesn't matter who is giving birth to the thing, that's fucking nature. Abortion shouldn't be an all access birth control for women who don't want the responsibility of a baby. There are a variety of other options to prevent pregnancy and avoid abortion as an issue all together. It may be her body but she didn't create the baby on her own. unless it's some kind of rape situation or the woman is too young or in some sort of health risk, the man should get just as much a say in what happens to THEIR baby. A lack of responsibility is not an excuse to freely prevent life from living.

but it's not just her body, there are two individuals to be considered

You gotta get back

In other case

I agree, the same goes for pedofilia and zoofilia, its our choice.

Yes it does fucking matter. Children need a whole plethora of things to be successful, well adjusted members of society. When you get unfit parents raising half adjusted kids with shit for money and no resources, we end up with shitsuckers like you who’ve never seen a pussy trying to regulate what comes out of one. Imagine someone trying to regulate your jizz. Same fucking concept. It’s going to be a baby, why is it less precious than an actual child? Oh that’s right, because it can’t experience anything. Fuck off

That's fine. But what about the thing that isn't their body?

The decision they can make with their body is to move to a state where they believe the laws match up with the way they want to live. If you want to murder children when they're at their most defenseless and commit the gravest sin you can against your own biology then by all means go right ahead, you just shouldn't live in Alabama. They don't want to live that way and they don't want you to live there if you disagree with it.

Wrong. Fetuses aren’t children. When it can experience shit at like 32 weeks it’s almost a child. Even then, kill the fucking thing. Too many goddamn people anyway.

Awww sin? Wrong faggot. The Bible states clearly MULTIPLE TIMES that life starts at first breath. Try another book you christfucking cunt

>like 15%
so 85 out of 100 of the fathers are still paying child support even though the ratio of females and males having the same baby is 50/50?

are you starting to understand why this shit pisses men off yet?

Then go campaign in India and Africa. America Doesn't have the same population problem.

The Bible says nothing about abortion faggot.

Men should stop pumping loads into women they don’t plan to stay with. Seems like s bad business move to let someone else rule that much of your financial future.

Mandatory abortions for all liberals, progressives, retards, commies. socialist. so called democrats, niggers and muslims. World would be a much better place in a few decades once all the human trash would be gone.

Sure does have a lot of passages about when it’s ok to kill a baby tho

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All that’s going to be left is you and your ugly cousins faggot

I hope you live long enough to see the tan skin single race everyone is going to be in 200 years from “race” mixing.

Actually it's not their body that they're making the choice about.

When the fetus has 10 fingers and 10 toes, does the woman now have 20 fingers and toes? Cause it's her body?

i can partially agree with you. men do need to hold their foot down in more situations but a lot of that is women being conniving pieces of shit.

You can’t force birth. That’d be like mandating you to donate bone marrow. It’s a clear case of body autonomy. You find a way to keep fetus’ viable outside the womb you can start a fucking collection. Until then, kill those little shit machines

Ohhh, you want all the power and none of the consequences... nah. You either get custody equality and abortion, or no abortion and full ride, from conception direct deposit child and mother support. Pick one.

I can't create a baby just by jerking my dick, it takes two to tango. It isn't the same concept, dipshit. It isn't about regulating women's rights, that's not the issue here. The issue is irresponsible people (both men and women) wanting free pleasure without taking any responsibility for their actions. Abortion is not and should not be used as the first and primary form of birth control. By your logic, it's best to abort the parent to prevent more people like this being created in the first place. Again, it doesn't matter who is the one birthing the kid unless it's one of the situations I listed earlier.

What if the baby is a girl?

Look I'm not exactly a pro-lifer here but I am kind of sick of bullshit rhetoric around this topic. No this is not an exclusively women's issue, especially to anyone who legitimately sees this as murder. They have a right to voice their opinion too. Why are women the only group in the fucking world that can be complete irresponsible dumb shits and pay none of the consequences for it?

So I'll meet you halfway. Beyond 6 months? You're too lazy or too stupid to fix your life and thats way too close to a legitimate baby at that point. No abortion for you.

Father wants to keep the baby? You decided to fuck this man, lady. Your option to be responsible occurred way before that dick entered your cooze.

And the MOST important. My tax dollars should not fund planned parenthood at all. I don't pay taxes so that you can be a stupid whore. Fair?

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Your missing his point, it's a two way street. BOTH parents need to be more responsible, abortion is a get out of jail free card for people who want the pleasure of raw dogging it, both men and women.

What do you do if a girl keeps a baby because the dad said he wants it and then chickens out at the last minute? Are you proposing legal consequences?

Mother fucking AMEN.

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Ah I meant to clarify that. If the father wants to keep it I think that should go to arbitration. How does that sound?

Their body, their choice.

But when I chose to sell my labor, all of a sudden it's our labor even tho it is my body producing it?

You go kill yourselves.

>20k Roentgens

Except it's not their body though. Not to mention that they've already had their choice, having unprotected sex. There is literally no reason why anybody should be allowed to kill unborn children and you objectively can not prove me wrong

Incels don't get to have opinions

Morally it's wrong in my mind too, but we need abortion in this country. Blacks and browns kill their unborn children at significantly higher rates than whites. Most abortions are for single women. Children raised without a father are much more likely to be criminals. There should be a planned parenthood on every street corner in every low income neighborhood. God bless Margaret sanger.

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6 months deal.
Father decides to keep the baby? Find a surrogate, pay her, she births it, he keeps it, and signs a contract never to bother her with the kid again. Same for men. Everyone gets the option to fuck way off.

Let’s pretend more than $.0001 of yours ever went to planned parenthood. Pp does more good for the community than any prison, cop, sex Ed teacher or religious corporation ever did. They have a comprehensive design for sexual and general health that just so happens to sometimes perform abortions.
So here’s my plan to fix that: flat 20% tax rate, but you elect where all of it goes. Hate planned parenthood? Don’t give them your tax money. Love the military? All 20% to them. Hate potholes? 10% to road commission.... and so on. I’ve never had anyone argue with that plan.

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Retards come in package user. They are programmed that way.

Actually convince me to approve legal abortion without using ''Their body, their choice'', ''Woman rights'', ''White Patriarchy Opresion'' and ALL THOSE WORDS YOU NPCs ARE PROGRAMMED TO USE without thinking by yourselves.

If you do I will make it approve. I have some influence in the legislative power.

Come on, you have 20 min. Thats all I can spent playing around with no sense.

>And the MOST important. My tax dollars should not fund planned parenthood at all. I don't pay taxes so that you can be a stupid whore. Fair?
but you tax dollars do pay for the infrastructure, education($10k/year*12) and food(~1500/year) for the stupid whore's offspring. If there's a disability you can add on an extra $14k/year.

So every time my dick is in a woman, her body is MY body right?

LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL

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Rape and incest.

No every time YOUR dick is in a woman it’s rape.

Bruh their MAIN business is abortion. They don't even perform mammograms, they just refer you. Undoubtedly planned parenthood is almost entirely an abortion clinic.

That being said, I like your idea in theory but fuck me the amount of bureaucratic red tape an idea like that would require. Again, I like it, I just don't know how feasible it is.

Bait harder, your shit is getting stale

Every woman who has a abortion is choosing to do what their own mother wouldn't do.

There is a woman speaking against abortion because she survived an abortion. What do you have to say to that, pro-choicers?

If you would read a little instead wanking on the internet all the time you would know that rape abortion already is illegal. Also rape is a NPC word.

Incest in case of abortion is only legal in 2 states and it was done that way to balance the scale.

Thats right, you can't.

One retarded one

>opresion
>i will make it approve
>thats all i can spent

Yup you're in the government all right.

Abortion affects you how?
Unvaccinated people affect you how?
See the difference?
If not kys

>rape abortion already is illegal.
My bad, I meant to say that Abortion in case of rape is legal.

That's right you can't. 20 min as expected, no one came with a clever answer.
Not a surprise at all.

Maybe someone should tell them to use protection.

>I don't agree with you therefore you are retard

Fuck off

My clever response is that you have no power R tard

> one woman has an opinion, that must be all womens opinion.

yeah becvause people do it for fun and we definietly need more humans in this overcrowded planet shut the fuck up
its not like any of you incels can get laid anyways

yeah lets circumcise them aswell while we are at it
maybe we also should foce them to cover themselves up and be objects for till they expire like any other product that isnt a human being
HAHA fuck woman right

So a country is considered (((civilized))) if their laws don't hold women accountable for being loose whores?

Ya , come to think of it, professor shekelberg at my university did a lecture about it.

Yeah it’s called women’s rights.

>Only one woman believes in pro-life

Unfortunately, "pro-choice" people continue to oppose reproductive rights and continue to intertwine men and women's rights when it comes to being forced to support an unwanted child

i think you should be allowed to kill everyone visiting your house aswell. i mean... your house your choice... their fucking fault if they enter it you know

Abortion should also be a man's right too
If some slut gets pregnant from me, I should the right to yeetus the fetus knowmsayin

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Wanna come over?

>implying woman should have rights
>2019
Almost tricked me here

Kek

Incel fatboy

Like an hour later

It doesn't take long to edit in/out the (You)s, either way.

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True. That just means claiming one way or another is a fools errand.

that's the point

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I have a genuine question.
If women want the government to get out of their lives, with no intervention on their bodies, then why do they also demand that planned parenthood be federally funded, since that would be a direct intervention of the government.
Also, if everything is subjective as postmodernists and leftists believe, why demand others to support your own beliefs as though they were absolutely true?
The contradictions don’t stop here, but I’ll stop here.

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Doesn't everyone act that way about their beliefs?

Youre mixing up single voices with a general opinion, and you're mixing up your own skewed view of "the left"/"postmodernism" and pro-choice.

But you tried.

That’s hardly a rebuttal. There is plenty of academic literature that outlines that subjectivity and relativity of postmodernism, as well as the usage of “leftist” to refer to “left of liberal”.
If you’d like to make that a syllogism to understand it better you can. I merely pointing out a logical inconsistency I’ve seen repeatedly in universities and representatives for the pro-choice argument.

If this was a pro-life argument, I’d be posing a different set of questions that points to one of the arguments fallacious reasoning.

>Everyone who's pro choice is left or liberal
>Everyone who's left or liberal believes what I interpreted into academic papers

And that is assuming that you're right. There's a shitton of modern philosophers out there, and almost none speak of subjectivity as a general concept. So you're triple retarded.

Pro-choice is a predominant left stance. Naturally, I’m speaking about leftists then. Don’t get your own hurt feelings mixed up in what is evidentially true.
Secondly, no one is talking about what I believe. The papers outline for themselves what the authors believe. Representatives of this issue, political or academic, are quite clear on their political stances.
Let there be no ambiguity there.
Thirdly, modern philosophers are not postmodern, unless you are referring to contemporary philosophers in which case you’d have to name some so that we can be specific and also be clear on where subjectivity in leftist culture is seen and perpetuated. Universities are a great example based on the literature they give students. More particularly, the sociological fields of which I major it.

So would you like to argue more about the premises of my questions, or actually address them?

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reading comprehension fail

are you referring to contemporary philosophers, or post-contemporary?

I’ll rephrase completely. Name me a sect of people that you find illustrative of our culture. You named philosophers, so I’ll leave the choice up to you.
In my view, culture can be seen from interactions with day to day people, political figures, policy action, the predominant left and right spectrum.
It’s my estimation that we live in a subjective and relativist culture, where what we see and how we argue is neither here nor there, all relatively valid, all subjectively true, and lastly, the rejections of absolute truth... even the most evident of claims like “the pro-choice stance is predominantly a leftist one.” Predominantly. Not entirely. Predominantly.

And so this culture puts arguments against well intentioned questions that really aim to try to understand these inconsistencies, for whatever reason, be it narrative or ideological. So I rest my case.

This mother fucker need some grey poupon

Trip deuces confirms need for fancy condiments.